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I do know this " From Isaiah 6:8 Moved. The Welcome section is not a place to debate Christianity." on page 1. So I falsely accuse no one. Maybe misunderstood naming but not how it is. Like I said I'm new as well and still learning. I do want to know friend how can you not understand what I am trying to say? He is a new member and you not know him yet. Is that how you start out all your Welcomes? All I am saying is he came to a Christian forum to speak his Christian mind and has to now defend himself. It only became a debate when you made your first post.

Reply @ mjrhealth Jesus never said though if he was eating with believers and a unbeliever runs into the room and interrupts the dinner dancing on the table kicking the food into the floor how he would act. This is not the same incidence as you speak and I never said UF couldn't sit at my table just ask that he keep his comments where they need to be. UF has been a member since August 04.. If he hasn't made up his mind by now then he wont anytime soon. Reply @ UF You said "This is the outer court, where the administrators of worthy have permitted non-believer input." Fact is it was moved to outer court and your original few trolling post made by you was made in "Worthy Welcome" I never intended to upset you just getting to a point of asking you to keep it where it belongs and not debate the new members like the TC.

You are defending nonbelievers on a Christian website. That's like going to a Country all you can eat buffet slamming your plate down screaming you wanted Chinese. If you wanted Chinese then go to a Chinese Buffet. Fact is that you are indeed at a Country Buffet so why don't you grab a plate and sit down and eat and observe? There are however topics properly labeled for such debate as I posted earlier. If this was called "Worthy Unbelievers Forums" then I would do the same. Going to the site just to defend my beliefs as you say would fall under the category of trolling. God Bless

I have no idea what part of the USA you are from but persecution is the systematic mistreatment of an individual or group by another group. Making a claim stating "You are not persecuted in the USA or any western democracy" is speaking for all Christians all over the USA from your own personal opinion and is the same issue you are having with the original claim the OP was about. Also when I used the word "defending" it was not necessarily for the OP more than to ask unbelievers for a since of understanding of what we as Christians have to go through everyday.

"And when a muslim (wiccan, mormon, satanist) tells you about his god, do you believe what he has to say? Do not do to others what you do not want done to yourself." Had he made his accusations on a muslim, wicca, mormon or satanist forum or even your topic properly labeled for such debate I can understand your reply but the fact is he is a new member such as myself and we do not know how strong in faith he is. Brings the question why you are here? We as Christians get persecuted wherever we go. Be it into town or at home on the internet. We as Christians are always defending, upsetting, offending and apologizing for our ways and I just ask you understand. UndecidedFrog why are you on this forum if not to worship Christ Jesus?

Anytime I come across a unbeliever and they want to debate I stop and think. Jhn 15:18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before [it hated] you. Jhn 15:19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. Jhn 15:20 Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also. Jhn 15:21 But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him that sent me. Jhn 15:22 If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloke for their sin.