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Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth
Your closest friendnt replied to Luther's topic in Eschatology
This is some how puzzling as it is without the specific context as it is posted. Is not easy to connect to it without the ever growing knowledge of Paul. If I may give it a shot. When the Gospel is preached the Holy Spirit is encouraged the listener to believe. That Jesus Christ died for the forgiveness of his sins. While yet the message is spoken. Some may believe that very moment as the service is ongoing and at anytime before the service finishes they had to leave. This is it. They came into the service as unbelievers and they left as believers. Or in other examples as soon as they believe an earthquake happens and the building collapse and die. And we can say that He came as an unbeliever and die a believer because he believed during the deliverance of the message. We start with faith then let's continue to live remembering that we started with believing that Jesus Christ died for the forgiveness of sins and later on to hold fast to that and not to add a string of other requirements which are for the believers and their growing in their faith of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. As believers they should do this or that. To grow strong and be inpower in their faith and have a strong foundation. -
Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth
Your closest friendnt replied to Luther's topic in Eschatology
Hi @farouk Thank you for pointing this out. It is relevant to us who are in Jesus Christ to know that the Lord of Lords is looking after us in his love for us HE CARE FOR US, HIS CHILDREN. He can crush our "disobedience" using a general word and I should include our "ignorance", because we do and say many things in our ignorance. Which indicates involvement in our lives, that we are not alone and that we are loved. More or less HE still accepts us as his children even if we are spiritually misformed. Not even making any steps towards perfection. He wants to be the one to help us take teach our first steps. That shows that His presence is around us. -
The Old Covenant was ɓetween God and the Israelites and Circumcision was mandatory. And to keep the Sabbath was mandatory. But not in the New Covenant.
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Paul spoke of the Gospel of Jesus Christ that invites anyone to Believe in Jesus Christ that Jesus Christ died for the forgiveness of their sins. The Covenant of Cirumcision is done on boys at eight days old. Just think about that.
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Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth
Your closest friendnt replied to Luther's topic in Eschatology
The point is made that the Word of God will triumph over those who will come against him and he called on the fowls to come and have a great feast on the flesh of those who will die on that day. The point is that his enemies when they die the do not need their bodies anymore. And this is what He has ordained. And He gave their flesh to be food for the fowls. Their flesh after they die is good for food for the fowls or for the worms. Whether buried or not their flesh is ordained to be food for the worms or the fowls. Do not expect anything else. The flesh is finished. -
Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth
Your closest friendnt replied to Luther's topic in Eschatology
Jesus ascending on his own and alone was witness by the disciples and the disciples had the testimony of Jesus Christ that He will ascent into His Father in Heaven who is being waiting for Him And the Angels gave the Testimony that Jesus Christ went up in Heaven and He will come back on his own. As Jesus had said earlier before the Cross: don't asked yourself who is going to take me up and who is going to bring me down. In the 1st Chapter of Revelation it happened just that. Jesus Christ came back just as it was by the Angels. Jesus was taken up without a big noise and trumpets and shouting from Angels and lightning and Thunder. And in the same way Jesus Christ came back to John in the Island of Patmos and appeared only to him. And at that time we have the witness that there has been a big shaking in the underworld. And in the Heavens. What was revealed at that time by what John saw and by what Jesus told him that the Old Heaven is gone and we have a New Heaven. Before Jesus Christ Ascension we look into Heaven and we see it as it was. After the Ascension we see a deferent Picture Jesus Christ is in his Glory. God has Honored and has Glorified Jesus And has made him Lord of All and the King over all Kings. We see that the way to Heaven had been opened for mankind in Jesus Christ death in his name. Definitely this is a picture of a New Heaven. Haven is open to mankind in Jesus Christ. And Jesus Christ is Glorified and he is not in his humble form anymore but in his Glorious appearance as he appear to John. Are you going to build a house and a luxurious Palace to lured him to make his abode there? You want to detained him in a certain place and certain structure. Do you want to manage his affairs? Do you want him to be in a special place where you can go and visit him or you want Jesus Christ to come to you wherever you are in the Holy Spirit. -
Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth
Your closest friendnt replied to Luther's topic in Eschatology
But how do you know the false teachers? The disciples were the eye witness and they teach the people that Jesus Christ indeed died and was raised from the dead and they Wachtel him ascended into Heaven. It was like that as they were looking at Him, Jesus Christ began to ascend up as he was upright and they looked at Him. The sign of Jesus Christ in the Sky. And as He was up High in the Sky a cloud cover him about and that's it. And the two Angels said: in this manner Jesus Christ went up into Heaven and in the same way manner Jesus Christ will come in the same way as you show him go into Heaven. Acts 1:11. ESV and said, "Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into heaven? This Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will come in the same wiay as you saw him go into heaven." The Angels told the disciples what happened to Jesus after the cloud cover Jesus and they could not see him anymore. At this time it was the Angels testimony that Jesus went in Heaven. ( like if you hear someone say Jesus is here or there do not believe it because the Angels gave the testimony that Jesus was taken up in Heaven. The disciples were told from Jesus that it will happen but they only witness him ascending till the cloud cover him up. They Angels were not with the disciples all along as they were watching Jesus ascending and cover with the cloud. But they appear to them after the cloud cover Jesus to tell them what happened. That what Jesus had told them earlier had been fulfilled. -
Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth
Your closest friendnt replied to Luther's topic in Eschatology
I asked if Paul asked Timothy to teach from the Letter to Hebrews? Or from the booklet of Mathew known as the Gospel of Mathew which is included in the New Testament Bible. Because you're saying that He did. -
Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth
Your closest friendnt replied to Luther's topic in Eschatology
If you don't want to discuss, don't worry about it. It meant for everyone who wants to discuss it with his own self. But for my self I am in the business of clarifying and that’s why I ask. I like clarification. Like Paul said: if it is sound it will stand the heat of testing. But you are invited to come along to the journey of testing. -
Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth
Your closest friendnt replied to Luther's topic in Eschatology
@truth7t7 Did Paul had a copy of the letter to the Hebrews and teach from it in the presence of Timothy? When you are quoting from Paul's letter to Timothy "that all scripture is good..." Did Paul included the Letter to Hebrews in the statement "All scripture is good for...teaching..." Did Paul asked Timothy to teach from the Letter to Hebrews? -
Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth
Your closest friendnt replied to Luther's topic in Eschatology
@truth7t7 Did Paul include Hebrews leter in his instructions to Timothy and Paul included a copy of the Leter to Hebrews to Timothy? -
Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth
Your closest friendnt replied to Luther's topic in Eschatology
The doctrine of the washings or the baptisms. The doctrine of the clean and unclean. -
Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth
Your closest friendnt replied to Luther's topic in Eschatology
And the horses need to be taken care off. And mantain them and clean and clean and continue to clean after them. @truth7t7 This Jesus said to his disciples who had teach them for three years before the Cross and for many days after the Cross. Paul was not there with them. What then? Do we have a problem? Hebrews was or was not there with them? Paul says that before the Law God gave to Abraham the Circumcision and He and Issac and Jacob were saved by the Circumcision. And the 12 Patriarhs and their children till the Law were also saved by the Circumcision. With the Covenant of the Sinai Covenant they were saved by their obedience to the Law which included the Circumcision. If under the law they wanted to be saved by the Circumcision and did not follow the Law they were lost. Yet Hebrews is not recognizing that. We know who is Paul, but who is Hebrews so we can use his name and say not just Hebrews but calling him with his name and say that He disagrees with Paul and Peter. -
This is an excellent point. With his birth the last days began of the collapse of the walls of Jericho. The Last days of the Sanctity of the people of God. The last days began before the manna in the Golden vessel in the Ark stinks. With his birth the Last Days of the Gentiles began to count, and their number were the same as the last days before the end of the Jewish man. With his birth, the last days began of both the Gentile and the Jewish Man. With his birth the Last Days of Darkness in the world began. With his birth the Last days began before the Darkness of the Jewish religious Moon.
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Every believer is rapture when he dies. If not what else your Pastor says. My Pastor said he will donate his body to science.
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Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth
Your closest friendnt replied to Luther's topic in Eschatology
Isaiah 65:12 That the life will continue as it was before. The change will take place but we cannot tell by observing the Physical world around us because the physical world will be the same. But even though the physical world will remain the same the spiritual order is not the same. The spiritual world will be change. Jesus Christ has died and Jesus Christ has raised from the dead and all things are made knew. In Heaven on earth and all the things under the earth. -
Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth
Your closest friendnt replied to Luther's topic in Eschatology
This is a prophetic quote. Spoken while the earth was populated by Jews and the Gentiles. And the people lived in in the Old Heaven and Earth. And it was shed that the population of the Earth will not be distributed that the change will happen and the population of the Earth will continue as it was before. We will still have different Nations populating the Earth and we will still have the Jews. But also we will still have the Arabs and the Persians and Finicians and the Egyptians and the Greek and other Nations on the Earth. So as no one point to the structure of the people and the Nations of the World and say that we live in the New world. Because everything in the physical will be the same. People they will be living in the New world and the would not know it. In the Physical everything the same, life will be going on and on. But the Death of Jesus on the Cross it is the point when the New Earth was set in place. Since that time we are in the New World and the people have been living in the times of the New Earth. -
Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth
Your closest friendnt replied to Luther's topic in Eschatology
Bless are those who mourn because they will be comforted. And indeed they were when they saw the resurrected Jesus Christ. They were glad and rejoiced. And we have a lot more to be glad because we are in the Eternal Life of Jesus Christ who will always The King of Kings and above all. All knees will bow down to him nothing absolutely nothing can ever and forever separate us from him. No even our doubts and our fears. Because he is Lord and above all. We are not afraid to stand in front of him. Because we will stand in front of him in His Name and He knows that. Even if we do not feel worthy He will all the time remember that He died for us. And He is going to say "come forth you are worthy to me because I died also for you. Be of good cheers. -
Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth
Your closest friendnt replied to Luther's topic in Eschatology
This must apply to everyone who believes in Jesus Christ and it should. Christians today also have their doctrinal light to guide them. -
Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth
Your closest friendnt replied to Luther's topic in Eschatology
Good for discussion. A little busy today. Thanks for the post. -
Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth
Your closest friendnt replied to Luther's topic in Eschatology
Follow ch 17 and 18. God talked to Abraham and Abraham said to him may Ismael be blessed. He question God. In 17 God told him when I ask you to do something you have to do it. The Jewish religion is works. Taking part in the Jewish calendar. The quiding stars in the Jewish religion. It starts with the new moon in the end of March or the beginning of April. Then the feast of Passover in two weeks, full moon. The Unleavened Bread Holidays and the participants continue to the day of Atonement. These are the guiding stars and the moons in the Jewish religion. This is why the Lord said regarding the their quiding moons. The moon will turn into blood and the stars will loose their light, turn into darkness and fall on the earth. The end of the Jewish religion. That's all about it. The Light of the Lord will guide his people from now on. -
Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth
Your closest friendnt replied to Luther's topic in Eschatology
I am glad that you are thinking about it. Is it about the immunity within the Covenant of Cirumcision. A very simple thought. God wanted to have a Nation multiply in Egypt and then in great numbers to come to possess Canaan. The only way to do it, it was to give them immunity. Not to hold there sins against them. The were in Egypt he cannot give them worship and the Temple and the Priesthood in Egypt. That belong to other Gods. The dessert was his. His Holy mountain was there and it had to be in a Tent. -
Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth
Your closest friendnt replied to Luther's topic in Eschatology
This is not what we discussing. We are on Isaiah 1 to include the context to verse 18. God told them why I should not do that not to forgive your sins when you are offering your sacrifice for sin without a contrite heart. -
Are we not discussing Genesis 17th? This is why I said from the beginning Genesis 17th only. Not other people. Only the scriptures on Genesis 17th.