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  1. I wrote a non-judging post, yet you respond and I thank you, but from your post I see, as it seemed to me that you were defending something, perceiving that you were under my judgement, and that you had perhaps a stereotype in your mind, which it was not me, and the stereotype was not the one who wrote the post, that it was me... My request is see me and interact without any doctrinal shadows, because I seek to find out what is in the bible..regarding the issues at hand...I am done with this preview, I just want to get down to the issues... You have asked me to repeat a question, and I will do that, using a different approach and different wording...and I will do that at they right time and in the right context of our conversation... First I see that you pay a significant importance in Deut. 6:4,. and the follow statement in your post: "this is what we stand for. "the diversity of God in flesh". better know as the Plurality of God as the ONLY H430 אֱלֹהִים 'elohiym (el-o-heem'). we believe in Deut 6:4 strictly." I need to asked you, to repeat your above statements with more simple words, and without leaving out, the specific meaning of your Key words...perhaps with a graphic phrase or event in the bible...no Hebrew for me please... Greek is fine... You have put me on a high level of curiosity to know what you mean, with your above cryptographic statements, that's how I see them...
  2. I tried to understand your post, I cannot connect to it, you are not making known the context of your thoughts...to what you stand for...it's not clear even from your previous post...you answer to someone else post with riddles... Don't you think we want to show disagreement with someone elses post we must first understand what he is saying.... This is an example: The creator of all, the God in Genesis, in the context as to why Jesus was born with the Life in him, which Life is trace to the Heavenly Father... And not in death in him, which is trace to Adam... If you understand that Adam did not have any children before he exit the Garden, or Eve did not conceive before Adam's disobedience... You can understand we are the seed of disobedience was upon the whole world including the Jews... The seed of disobedience is death... How Jesus was the seed of obedience-he was conceived in the Life of God... and not in the same seed as the other Jews, or the seed of Abraham... I will go a step ahead of you....and I can say that from your posting....that you cannot answer this question because you are strange to it...or you have difficulty relating to it. Or you do not understand it.. Because you did not agree with that, in your posting, which is a mandatory requirement in the profile of the Christ...the Messiah, if not how can he be called the Son of God.. You must believe that Jesus is the Life giving Spirit, or he gives Life to those who believe in him...as he is so we are by faith in him...
  3. I have try to make sense of the above statement and I admit that I am at a lost... So what do you mean by that? Did you read something in the bible or in some other book that make you think of it...or is this an analogy to help us understand something we discussed... I would appreciate a response, it could lead to a nice conversation..
  4. Jesus not only died for the forgiveness of sins for the whole world... The Father in Heaven gave us his sons Life for our Lives... If he did not died nothing will accomplish.. So the question is what did he accomplished... He accomplished something that was not available before... He inherited Heaven for himself, and mankind, those who believe in him... He died not only for the forgiveness for our sins, and then leaves us just like that....no he does not leaves us just like that, to carried the burden of our own righteousness... Jesus gives us upon believing in him the gift of his righteousness... What a great gift, we may look at our selfs and our own righteousness and begin to treble of his Judgement, but when we remind our selves that we have his free gift of his righteousness we rest in his peace... He also he gives us upon believing the free gift of his Eternal Life, for he is the ETERNAL LIFE, and we are not separated from him and the Heavenly Father... We can stand in their presence and live.... This is it. We can be in Heaven together with Jesus and the Holy Angels and the Heavenly Father... We do not live in the fear of standing in the presence of Angels or God...that's why the Holy Spirit can freely be in us and flow through us, the Holy Spirit if the Father who testifies that Jesus is the CHRIST, that he died and raised from the dead, and he is sits. On he Heavenly Throne, God made him Lord and Judge of all... About this life, don't everyone what is good and what is bad... Now that we mention things pertaining in this life... Our Holiness is affected by our unrighteousness and iniquity, but it does not affect the gifts of righteousness and the eternal life we have in the name of Jesus... The repentance in the name of Jesus is for his own children, the believers...he knew that from the beginning, that he will have all kinds of children...some more and some less in their obedience to him, thats why he gives us the gifts at the beginning when we first believe... For me in particular who I was born in a Christian family, and always believe. I only experience of having to repent , when I understood the importance of...one of the reasons to keep the darkness away from me and abide more in his light...
  5. Unto us a child is born a son is given and he name is wonderful the everlasting Father, the government and Judgement is upon him, for ever without end... Hello Jtb, I hope you may considered the above scriptures in Esaias 9: 6,7 That together with 9:3, "You have not increase the joy of the people as in the day of the harvest". This scripture is one of the most importance as in the prophetic the Father of the people of God "as in Abraham and his seed, through Isaac, and Jacob and all the house of Jacob...is informing his people that something new is coming that will increased the Joy of the people as in the day of harvest....pointing to a harvest, but as in the day of harvest.... But he also said that he is not the one to do it.. He cannot do it himself, hindering that he must give away him being the Father of the Nation of Israel... That he is not the e Everlasting Father... Pointing to the Everlasting Father...verse 6,7 , the everlasting Father for the whole world... We now know that he was pointing to non other than to himself, when he will leave he Lordship on the nation of Abraham, to be born as that child, the child with the Life in him... The Son of God...here he is telling us that he is not the Heavenly Father, as for this to happen he needs the intervention of the Heavenly Father.. He is telling us that he is the creator of all and man....that when that happens do not look anymore and call upon the name of the God of the old testament....because he is come in the flesh and he took upon flesh and is Jesus the CHRIST..the EVERLASTING FATHER of the whole world... He had to die first...and go to make the invitation to life in the place of the dead....so he can be the Savior of the whole world... As he died for all, the living and the dead... That's why as he Jesus was before his birth as God the Creator could not give life to Abraham and his seed...not only that would Judged the rest of he world, he as Jesus had as a man to earn Heaven for his inheritance, and not only for him but for those who have the gift of his life , Life Eternal, because they believe in him.. Abraham knew this was coming and he rejoice knowing the day of Christ will come to him, as Jesus revealed that Abraham knew of the day of Jesus Christ, that his Lord God as Jesus had do die first to descend in the place of the dead and give them LIFE to him and to his children with him in the Bossom of Abraham, and take them to their knew Heavenly inheritance... David also has this revelation, as call his Lord God the CHRIST...and described the glorification of his Lord as being made the Lord and Judge of all, the whole word. He mentions the Heavenly Father as he said "the Lord said to my Lord sit at my right hand till I make your enemies your foot stool.. He put everything under his feet, or he the Heavenly Father made Jesus the Lord of all. Jesus on the Cross made sure that he dies voluntarily.. And this is the first time that the Father is not going to be with him... That the moment he died, and he left the world of the living for the world of the dead that he was on his own, without the Father, the help of the Angels and the Holy Spirit... What a glorious moment was that in the life of jesus...to face all the powers in the place of the dead alone..
  6. There is no more God's wrath to be pour upon people... God so love the world that he gave his only begotten son to make peach between him and the whole world... He made Jesus Lord over all, and he gave him all of his theoties-of his Godly powers- and tje Holy Spirit.... He made Jesus Lord and Judge over all... This is telling us that the last person the God judge wad Jesus and he found him worthy... And made him Lord over all but not over himself...and God rested.. Jesus has taken up everything... The Government is upon his shoulders...Esaias 9:6,7.. Jesus took the punishment of our sins upon himself.... What does that mean? And how has that has affected everything... In many ways.... First of all he does not hold our sins against us for punishment, as he knows that he was made the propritiation for our sins...it was pleased God that he bear the chastiment of our sins and our inequities.. But he does hold our sins and inequities against our holiness... Jesus is the Life-giver, he does not have death!!! He cannot give death to anyone... He cannot give death to his children because of disobedience, sins and inequities... They may abide in those things and live not in his light....but they do that as his children...still in his Life.... That's why he doses not asked them to believe in him, because they already believe in him... He only asks them to clean their cloths, to repent...and to put on white raiments...not take over the dirty cloths after they throw them away... The other significant for taken over to himself the punishment of our sins is that now in the new covenant he can call sinners to believe in him.. It means that Jesus has done something for the whole world, has cleaned the sin from the whole world...AS JOHN THE BAPTIST SAID: THE LAMB THAT TAKES AWAY THE SIN OF THE WORLD.... And that what Jesus was teaching Peter at his mission to Cornilious family, the Roman Gentiles on whom God pour his Holy Spirit on...the Penticost of the Gentiles... Imidiatly after believing in him for the forgiveness of their sins... Peter was astonish, he met himself as to what he did on the day of the Penticost of the Jewish people who had believed in Jesus Christ and he told them to repent after believing and to be baptized for the forgiveness of their sins and they will received the Holy Spirit... Peter was astonish to find out that Jesus consider the Gentiles clean and he readily accepted their faith in him for the forgiveness of their sins... Their faith still in their heart, which Peter could not see, and before their confession, but Peter understood that Jesus could see their unconfessed faith and he pour his Holy Spirit upon them in the manner of the day of Penticost...Jesus that day established the Gentiles as his new ministers of the Gospel... PS Not all of the ministers of the Gospel accepted what happened that day, they could not understand that there was no more distinction between Jew and Gentiles... As in the old covenant begining with Abraham and the circumcision, they did not understand that when Jesus died not only the circumcision was taken away, but also the bdeligma "the Acrobistia ", of the Gentiles was taken away...the whole world both Jews and Gentiles needed Jesus Christ for their forgiveness of their sins.... As Jesus said to the Jews... The Law will be taken away from you,,,if you do not believe in me, you will be in your sins... And many ministers not only that time but even today they give a Gospel, the way Peter and the other disciples preach it before Jesus Christ revelations to Peter in the day of Cornilius, who taught Peter to call to faith the Gentiles as they are... And he can see and accepts their faith without their confession...
  7. Romans 10:9-10 King James Version (KJV) 9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. ------------ Here Paul is telling us that we are in the righteousness of Jesus Christ because we believe in him.. And if in any doubt to confess our faith in him and remind our self that we are in him because we believe that he is our Savior, as to be saved from any doubts that tells us that we are lost and not worthy to be with him.. and establish our selfs worthy to believe as we are... Jesus accepts our faith in any situation we are.... ....Jesus died for the forgiveness of our sins and raised for our justification. Jesus Christ is the one who justifies anyone who believers in him...
  8. When someone understands Heaven and Hell and he needs Jesus Christ because of Heaven...then he believes in his heart... That's why the faith in Jesus Christ can be hidden in the heart of the believer...who is accepted by Jesus not only with rituals but also without rituals...
  9. Hello JLB, I posted the scriptures from Genesis, and the one that say "and he believe in the Lord and he counted it to him for righteousness". Genesis 15:6 And he (Abraham), believe in the Lord..And the Lord counted it to him for righteousness... Genesis 15:4-6 King James Version (KJV) 4 And, behold, the word of theLord came unto him, saying, This shall not be thine heir; but he that shall come forth out of thine own bowels shall be thine heir. 5 And he brought him forth abroad, and said, Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them: and he said unto him, So shall thy seed be. 6 And he believed in the Lord; and he counted it to him for righteousness. Genesis 12:1-5 King James Version (KJV) 12 Now the Lord had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee: 2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing: 3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed. 4 So Abram departed, as theLord had spoken unto him; and Lot went with him: and Abram was seventy and five years old when he departed out of Haran. 5 And Abram took Sarai his wife, and Lot his brother's son, and all their substance that they had gathered, and the souls that they had gotten in Haran; and they went forth to go into the land of Canaan; and into the land of Canaan they came. In verse 5 and they went forth to go into the land of Canaan; and into the land of Canaan they came... Abraham new where he was going.. In chapter 12, when Abraham set to go to Canaan he was 75 years old...12:5.. chapter 15: 6, when the Lord renew his promise to Abraham he had made to him on chapter 12: 2 that he will make him a great nation, ten years had pass , chapter 16:3 and Abraham was still childless... The Lord after 10 years he renew his promise to Abraham and Abraham believed him, and the Lord counted to him for righteousness... chapter 17: 15-17... Genesis 17:15-17 King James Version (KJV) 15 And God said unto Abraham, As for Sarai thy wife, thou shalt not call her name Sarai, but Sarah shall her name be. 16 And I will bless her, and give thee a son also of her: yea, I will bless her, and she shall be a mother of nations; kings of people shall be of her. 17 Then Abraham fell upon his face, and laughed, and said in his heart, Shall a child be born unto him that is an hundred years old? and shall Sarah, that is ninety years old, bear? King James Version (KJV) Here Abraham is 100 years old, twenty five years since from chapter 12: when he was on the way to Canaan... And Sarah is 90 years old... In 17: 16, the Lord is promising to Abraham that Sarah (90 years old), will have a child with him (100 years old), and verse 17, Abraham laughed ....he did not at first believe...or something else... They were not Redeemed ...and did not have the Life, and could not be in the presence of God... They were separated from God... They had their own righteousness, and that's why they needed to maintain it.
  10. Genesis 6:9 New International Version (NIV) Noah and the Flood 9 This is the account of Noah and his family. Noah was a righteous man, blameless among the people of his time, and he walked faithfully with God. Genesis 7:1 New King James Version (NKJV) The Great Flood 7 Then the Lord said to Noah, “Come into the ark, you and all your household, because I have seen that you arerighteous before Me in this generation. Genesis 6:9, it tells us that Noah was a righteous man...and he walked with God..... you must have confused Noah for Abraham... Abraham was the man God told him to believe him, when he promise him that he will have a Son and his descendants shall be numerous and and occupied the land of Canaan... Abraham as he was very old believe God and God credited Abraham's faith in him to fulfilled his promise and to give him children and protect them and give them the Land of Canaan who was populated by other nations to them. "as righteousness"... this is it, God considered Abraham a righteous man, whether or not Abraham live in righteousness or not.... God did not hold his sins or his descendants sins against them, till the Law was given.... Genesis 15:4-6 New International Version (NIV) 4 Then the word of the Lord came to him: “This man will not be your heir, but a son who is your own flesh and blood will be your heir.” 5 He took him outside and said, “Look up at the sky and count the stars—if indeed you can count them.” Then he said to him, “So shall your offspring[a] be.” 6 Abram believed the Lord, and he credited it to him as righteousness. Both men, Noah and Abraham lived long time before the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.... Noah had to carried the burden of his own righteousness...as also had his children to do the same...they did not have the benefits of God's righteousness by faith in Jesus Christ, we have JESUS CHRIST righteousness which is the same as God's righteousness, as Jesus Christ righteousness is the same as God's righteousness.... We are in obedience to the Father who is asking those who believe in him and do not believe in Jesus Christ, to believe in Jesus Christ, so they can have both the forgiveness of sins and the Life and Heaven, the Heavenly Paradise of God, without the Mammon, the Devil...this is done through the Holy Spirit of God...which God sent on earth after the Cross and the resurrection, the Spirit of Truth, that testifies that Jesus is the CHRIST of GOD... God made Jesus Christ our Lord, to him we should obey... The Father has given everything to his Son Jesus, he made him our Lord...he has step aside and let Jesus rain from the Heavenly Throne... Jesus is all we need....the Holy Spirit works with the will of Jesus.... Those who believe in Jesus Christ, they have by faith the righteousness of Jesus Christ who is the same as the righteousness of the Father... They also have the Life or are in the Life of Jesus Christ which Life Jesus has from the Father.... Also those who are in the righteousness of Jesus Christ, they also have a Heavenly Inheritance together with Jesus Christ... The distinction between Noah's righteousness and Abraham's righteousness. Noah had to carried the burden of his own righteousness, and he was in Adam's inherited course, he was in the "DEATH INHERITANCE", the descending to Hades at the time of death....also his children had the burden to carried their own righteousness... Abraham did not have to carried the burden of his own righteousness, after God gave Abraham righteousness as a gift because Abraham believed in God's promise to give him a Son and make him a great nation. Later God add the circumcision as to include the descendants of Abraham from Jacob in the righteousness of Abraham...they did not have to nourish that righteousness only till the time the Law was given... Through that righteousness and the circumcision God separated Abraham from the rest of the world and made them a nation to himself...later he added the obedience to the Law... God gave Abraham the Land of Canaan, his Land, a holy Land as his inheritance, and God separated his people the seed of Abraham and Isaac, Jacob and his seed from the rest of the world after they die... He gave Abraham their Patriarch the "Bossom of Abraham", a descending inheritance in the place of the dead. But separated from the rest of the dead of the world.... That's where Abraham received his descendants. This is because Abraham had only righteousness his own righteousness, but not God's Life yet... (God's life came only to the imputed righteousness by faith in the Cross Jesus Christ...) after Jesus died.... Those who believe in Jesus Christ they are the seed of Jesus Christ, they are spiritually born into his family, they have by believing in him who die for the forgiveness of their sins and the sins of the whole world.... They have: a) something not one else not even Abraham had before "the righteousness of Jesus Christ, which is the same as the righteousness of God...in this earthly vessel...imputed righteousness.... b) they also have by believing Jesus Christ, the Life of Jesus Christ, which is the same Life as God's Life. (the believer of Jesus Christ are in Life, and not in death....as Jesus is and so are they...they are the spiritual descendants of their Patriarch Jesus Christ... c) also for the first time they have the ascending inheritance of Jesus Christ they gather to him, at the time if their death... Jesus went or descended to the Bossom of Abraham at the time of his death...to give them Life and take them out of here at the time he was resurrected, to their HEAVENLY INHERITANCE...to be with him, among other things Jesus did in the place of the dead... So we distinguish the differences between they righteousness of Noah, and it's rewards and the righteousness of Abraham and to his children...the inherited by sircumsision till the obedience to the Law was added, to prepare them for their arrival to God's Holy Land.... That the righteousness of Abraham to him. And to his children, his children of the Law could not give them Life..... We know that because the Heavenly inheritance is for the children of Life, of Jesus Christ... The children of Abraham were given the Bossom of Abraham which was in Sheol and not in Heaven. Both Noah, and Abraham and is descendants they needed to wait for Jesus Christ to give them the Life, the freedom from the place of he dead.... And o Heaven, in Jesus Christ name....
  11. And now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart of the righteousness of the Law... The righteousness of God by faith in Jesus Christ... There is a self righteousness of the believer and also for the unbeliever, Paul marvel at the self righteousness he found among some Gentiles...that surpassed or equals the righteousness of a Jew through the Law.... Paul said That I have to give Jesus Christ to all, because Jesus died for all. Believe in Jesus Christ, you need the righteousness of Jesus Christ if you are a good person, only those in Christ belong to Heaven.. Heaven has been inherited by Jesus Christ.. Only when we believe in Jesus Christ we inherit the paradise of God...and our sins are forgiven in the name of Jesus..
  12. James 1:21, NIV: "Therefore, get rid of all moral filth and the evil that is so prevalent and humbly accept the word planted in you, which can save you." ... James 1:21, KJV: "Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word,which is able to save your souls." 22 but be ye doer of the word and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. JAMES written this epistle to "the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad", 1:1... He is addressing people who believed in Jesus Christ, and are part of the congregation of christians. He is telling to believers who are in sinful situations, to get rid of their sins, and it seems they were reluctant to let go.... He is reminding them that they are taught and they know what they are doing is sin, but they are still holding unto them.... James is not telling anyone that they are going to Hell and they need to repent and not go back to their sins or pick up new ones so they can go to Heaven... To put it in other words, James is talking to people with the Eternal Life, who are in sinful situations, and it seems that many of them are hearers and not doers of the word they have heard.. ..1:23 But those who hear and do the right thing are bless in what they do... James keeps calling those in sins "brothers", he is not telling anyone that he is in eternal death as a believer because they are just hearers of the word, and they continue in their sin.. James is just saying that they are not in the light of Jesus Christ, that they are out of the will of Jesus when they sin.... But they sin and are still his children because of their faith.... The devil tried to make Jesus sin, so he can loose the life he had and be in death...without disobedience and sin Jesus remained in the Life, because he had the Life from the beginning he as born with he Life in him, he was never in the Adamic course. He was alive to God and then if he disobey God he will be in death because of his disobedience.. Jesus carried the burden of his own righteousness...he had to remain in the Life by being in full obedience, to remain in righteousness. Praised God we do not carried the burden of our own righteousness...we have the righteousness of Jesus Christ because of being obedient to the Father to believe in his Son. And we also have the eternal life in Jesus Christ.. We are in Jesus Christ we are in the Eternal Life... Jesus always will be in the Eternal Life...this is our security..... We still carrie the burden of our own righteousness for other reasons not for Heaven or Hell... So we need to be Saved for our sins for the dake of our own righteousness...to live in the light of Jesus Christ... To live as the children of the light... Jesus is our righteousness, as he is so we are... We have no fear of eternal death-Hell.. Eternal death cannot come to us because of sin... Jesus is telling us that one of his TROPHYS is the sting of death because of sin.. Death has not sting, is stingless and get not sting a believer to give him death, or any one else in the world.... DEATH NOW COMES TO PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THEIR DENIAL TO BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST.... AND THEY ARE IN ETERNAL DEATH , IN HELL ONLY IF THEY DIE IN THEIR DENIAL.. BECAUSE AS LONG AS THEY LIVE, JESUS IS CALLING THEM TO BELIEVE IN HIM...TO HAVE FORGIVENESS OF SINS AND BE IN HIS LIFE, AND HAVE HEAVEN AS THEIR INHERITANCE. In the Law they had to do what the Law was asking to have the righteousness of he Law, they carried the burden of their own righteousness..while they were in the Adamic captivity...in death, but still they were the children of God waiting for their Lord God as the Christ Jesus to die and descent to the Bossom of Abraham to give them life and take them to his Heavenly Inheritance. Before the Law they were in the righteousness of Abraham...they only needed to be sircumsize... Their sins were not counted against them...
  13. It will be fair to anyone who reads the post to know what the verse says, and what you say, that you understand the verse means to say to you....how about when later you may change your mind about what the verse communicates to you... James 5:19-20 King James Version (KJV) 19 Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him; 20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins. And Paul; “Brethren, even if a man be overtaken in any trespass, ye who are spiritual, restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness; looking to thyself, lest thou also be tempted. Bear ye one another’s burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ.” (Gal 6:1-2) John in 1 John 5:16,17 “If anyone sees his brother commit a sin that does not lead to death, he should pray and God will give him life. I refer to those whose sin does not lead to death. There is a sin that leads to death. I am not saying that he should pray about that. All wrongdoing is sin, and there is sin that does not lead to death.” (1 John 5:16-17 NIV) we have been saved by the grace of God and once-for-all sacrifice of Christ, we still sin, and drift into darkness, as believers in Jesus Christ, who died for the forgiveness of our sins, wondering away from his light and fellowship, following some darkness, often disguise as an angel of light, following some distorted, deceiving spirit, that may lead the believer into sins often with rightful excuses, or in believing that some of the old testament rules, and prohibition still apply in the new testament...or into extreme ascetic behavior, fasting for prolonged periods, praying continue, seeing everything as evil. In First John 5: 16, 17...John the disciple is telling us: do not let your heart be trouble....there is only one sin that leads a believer in God to death, to believe in God but not to believe in him who he has send, his Son Jesus Christ...John days it leads a believer to death, if he continues and dies with his denial, that Jesus is the Son of God, as he had first believe, and continue to believe his error, till the end that Jesus was just one of the prophets.... 1 John 5:9-10 King James Version (KJV) 9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son. 10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. John is telling that Jesus Christ... is our Lord and our Judge.. John is saying that Jesus cannot disfellowship anyone from him, but rather the believer can walk away from his fellowship...and the light of Jesus Christ, while he is still in the faith of Jesus Christ, and in his eternal life. He is telling us that sins in the believer does not keep Jesus away, that the sinner believer is still his, he is still under his blood and his imputed righteousness and his eternal life... That sin cannot separate a believer from his eternity with Jesus Christ....
  14. You and I are not Jews, born and raised under the Mosaic Law, which is beyond the ten commandments, that includes the Priesthood, the sacrifices, and the centennial cleansing... Please keep a not of the last part...the sacrifices and the ceremonial cleansing... We are in the New Covenant....we must see our faith and the things of Jesus Christ, judging the ways of the Old Covenant, not Conforming to the Old but distancing our selves away from the old into the new way.... Jesus gave us many examples of the conflicts of the Old and the New and told the parable of the new and the old Garments.... Jesus taught that the NEW GARMENT does not have and does not need patches or portions of the old... This is why I cannot agree with you, because in your post you are bringing things, quite a lot of things, from Moses into the faith of Jesus Christ.. Paul left enough instructions to us that show that he is in disagreement with your posting... Even James will protest to your posting, because it is made reference to him, as saying things that he disagrees with.... James and the same as Paul were born and raised and were very knowledgeable about the Law Moses... I still need to distinguish Paul from James, who was the one who was chosen by Jesus Christ to help the believers at that time to let go of the holdings to some parts of the old, Peter also had a lot light from Jesus Christ, as he was chosen also to bring the Gospel to the Gentiles, and his departure from the old statutes can be seen clearly with his mission to Cornilious family. Your arguments in your post cannot even be supported in the old covenant.... They are incorrectly. describing the doctrines of the old, and they are contrary to the doctrines of Paul.... James if he was hear he would take an issue with your posting, that he said "eternal death", when he said only "death", and James as a coming out the Jewish faith has distinguish the meaning of "death", within the old and the new, hope that you take notice how often that has happened, as it is he same situation with some things Jesus said... We need to discuss what is the meaning of "death", beginning with the old, so we can distinguish the meaning of "death" in the new, as was understood by disciples....we need to bring the meaning of "death" in this context in the new testament, Because "death", is not "eternal death" in the new or in the old, if not why Jesus say; I have come to saved lost sheep of Israel.
  15. Re-reading my previous post, I have come to realized that I was judging, so my apologies for that.. I looked in the example of he lost sheep, and I have to ask you, to give me another example that makes your point... Jesus said this parable of the lost sheep to support his position that he has come to save the lost sheep of Israel, as in the new covenant... Which this sheep stand judge in the old covenant that once it went astray, was judge to be there...but Jesus was saying that he has come to saved and not judge the lost sheep of Israel.... In this parable we see that the sheep it was once part of the pen of the Shepard...and it seems it wonder away, and was judge to stay away.. The crying of the sheep shows that the sheep long to go back and joint the rest of the sheep.... But it cannot because it is the other sheep who judge and expel the sheep from among them selfs, according to the rules in place.. Of the Law of Moses.. Here is the Sheppard who went to look for the sheep and bring it back in his arms.. .it shows that the sheep is welcome back according to he new rules of Jesus Christ....in the new covenant.. The Sheppard brought back a sheep that long to come back, but the old rules were in place, and that was the judgement upon the sheep... Perhaps offend the Law by not keeping the Sabbath Holy...and it was cut off from the rest of the sheep....as there was not forgiveness for that offence.. It shows Jesus as the Lord and Judge of the sheep of Israel in the new covenant.... At that time Jesus new that he will die to reconcile all people to himself, but the people who heard him, did not accept this parable... Because there was only judgement for everyone who offended the Sabbath.... Jesus said this in the new, where he will put away the old covenant upon shedding the blood of the new covenant, the forgiveness of sins in his name....
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