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Is not clear why you followed this post and said that "I Agree". Is this the same with what Peter said in 2nd Peter 1: 13-14? 2 Peter 1:13-14 13 I think it is right to refresh your memory as long as I live in the tent of this body, 14 because I know that I will soon put it aside, as our Lord Jesus Christ has made clear to me.

Abraham, Moses and the other people you have in mind they were not disciples of Jesus Christ. No one of them had his sins forgiven in Jesus Christ death on the Cross.

The point in Acts 1:11 is made in the last words of the Angel "will come back in the same way" in the ISV. And in the KJV "shall so come in like manner" The question for clarification is, :what is the like manner" in the kjv and "will come back in the same way"and it is about Jesus Christ only. this is about the manner Jesus went up in Heaven. And it was in the presence of witnesses who will be His eye witness and who were gathered at that place and at that time on the Mount of Olives. Jesus definitely did not go up in Heaven in the manner Elijah went up whith a chariot. This is how Jesus went up in Heaven as Jesus described it in John 6:62 when he said that He will ascent ascent up in Heaven and He also foretold that the disciples will witnessing that when will happen. But in acts they are not told that they or anyone else will witness his coming back in. in the same manner. As Jesus said: "who is going to take the Son of Man up and who us going to bring him down. And who is going to bring him down and who is going to bring him up." JESUS came back as he had promised to John that John will die after Jesus comes back, as it happened. All the disciples had died and only John was alive when Jesus came back and as Jesus had said it happened. Only John will witness that because He will show himself only to John. John 6:62 Berean Standard Bible Then what will happen if you see the Son of Man ascend to where He was before? Berean Literal Bible Then what if you should see the Son of Man ascending to where He was before? International Standard Version Acts 1:11 11 They asked, "Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking up toward heaven? This same Jesus, who has been taken up from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you saw him go up into heaven." KJV acts 1:11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

@truth7t7 The MANA in the Golden vessel. The Bread of Life in the tummy of Mary. The young maiden (not from the world) but from the Holy people of God of the 10 commandments. And the dry staff of Aaron. It's the prophetic that a new branch will come from the root of Jesse. Or a New High Priest will come forth. The Messiah, the Bread of Life the New Branch no One like Him before the Son of Man, the Man from above who will be carried in the tummy of the Sanctified vessel of the Sinai Covenant will come forth and be Born the New High Priest the Mediator between Man and God who like the High Priest in the Day of Atonement he took all the sins of the people upon himself and then transferred them onto the goat and then the innocent goat died to provide the blood of the Atonement. But with Jesus our High Priest in the order of Melchizedek God put if we can use this words all the sins of the world was upon himself and died as the innocent Lamb, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world.

Mathew 24:15 English Standard Version “So when you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the holy place(let the reader understand), The timing of this prophecy began with the death of Jesus Christ on the Cross when the light of the world did not shine on the earth for three days. Definitely the Priests were not sanction by the New High Priest. And the New Priesthood was established. Does the scripture support two Priesthoods at the same time?

They could do that because the Ark and the golden pot filled with MANA with Aaron's dry stick with almond's buds and the tables with the 10 commandments were preserved. That was the testimony that the Lord wanted them to rebuild the Temple. No duplicates were allowed of the Ark and the vesel with the live Manna it was the testimony that the Lord's Spirit kept alive the same with the budding staff of Aaron's. Do you thing that the Manna in the Ark was still alive after the veil was torn twain from top to bottom. And what would that mean from top to bottom?

From your quoted post above copy and paste Daniel 12-13 in parentheses The last sentence "Which is his part of the Abrahamic Covenant, the Land." is not part of the verse 13th. You cannot say that the Lord spoke these words, definitely not. Daniel did not here these words and he did not write them down. Definitely he did not say that the Lord spoke these words to him Someone has made the verse longer by including the said sentence: Which is his part of the Abrahamic Covenant, the Land. I don't know why and the reasons to do that and their proposed to do that. What we can surely tell from the context is that the Lord was informing him that he will not be amongst those returning to Jerusalem. And that he will die a Natural death. And he will rise. When will that happen? What are the last days? And what is the ALLOTED INHERITANCE? (Daniel 12 : 11 - 13 ........ As for you (Daniel), go your way till the end, you will rest, then at the end of the days you will rise to receive your allotted inheritance. Which is his part of the Abrahamic Covenant, the Land.) Daniel 12:13 niv 13 “As for you, go your way till the end. You will rest, and then at the end of the days you will rise to receive your allotted inheritance.”

The mark is not something visible. Like what a mark has to do with that? The Mark of the Antichrist is like the Mark of the Christ. The people of Christ who represent him with the things they say about Jesus Christ. And the opposite is for those who speak as representatives of the Antichrist. Certainly they thing and contemplate and weight what to say to have an impact. This is the mark on their head. To understand the mark on their hands are the doers. Those who persecute the believers of Jesus Christ. And the mark on their feet are those who run to do the will of the Antichrist and act as his messengers.

The Christian Bible is not one book. It consists of the Jewish Bible. And the New Testament as it is. And their many subbooks. Certainly you know that. Paul may have never read the books of other disciples and definitely not the book of Revelation at the time when he wrote to Timothy that all scripture are good for wrigheousness and holy living referring to the ethical parts of the scriptures. Paul did not include circumcision and the teachings in the Old Testament about forgiveness of sins and the separation of Jews and Gentiles. This is obvious. When Paul said that he was referring to the scriptures for righteousness and love one another in the New Covenant. Not in the examples in the Sinai Covenant and the examples in the Covenant of Cirumcision and definitely he did not endorse the acts of the twelve Tribal Patriarchs. Paul never said that he endorse wrightings that he never read. But we have the decisions of Synods who did. But still some institutions have more books. But the point is that this ministry it endorses the 66 books in the bible. The discussion should be about the 66 books. And the point about Paul saying that this is his instructions is very wise. Because people have ever-changing customs and cultures and at that time the Gospel was p Yes God had a part in many of the books and it is specifically pointed out the words that belong to Him. And the words of his Prophets which were towards his people of the time and towards some other Nations. We have the words of the historians and those who were assigned to follow the Kings and record what happened and definitely did not record everything said or done and not as eye witness. But from the reports of others. But this is the point for Christian Ministries they are not going to revise it and they see fit. This is what they have and are going to read from. This is the point and in the context it includes enough to tell who spoke the words that are recorded in the specific part in the specific place in the Christian Bible. Example is like those are the words recorded in this book and in this chapter and verse and in this bible version. And while this is a fact because we can find these words in the bible and yet it does not make them the words of God by default. And if they were the words of God in the Old Testament, we will be told to whom they were spoken and when. And the proposed they were spoken and to whom they applied. Then we study to rightly divide the times and the seasons they were spoken and if they are bind upon us as they did bind upon the people they were spoken to at that time. Each situation has to be individually study. Re: those are the words of this person and who is this person we will be able to know from what it is written in the Bible or we may need to have the assistance of outside sources. And many Bible teachers they do that. In the bible we have the words of the False teachers and we must as to learn the false teachings against Jesus Christ at the time Jesus lived and during the times of his disciples. And definitely there are other false teachings and we should know how to identify them against the Gospel of Jesus Christ, even from the testimony from other believers which are not written in the Bible but in the doctrinal books of some religions Christian organizations. And the teachings of their teachers. The point is that while people are ready to defend something in the bible at the same time they do not follow everything written in the bible and they use parts of the Bible in their defense. Like in the book of Jude. They say that the disciple quoted from a book that is excluded from the 66 books of the Bible but part of another book that was considered but not included in the Bible. Still the words of Jesus Christ and his works are recorded in the Christian part of the Bible and not in the Jewish Bible but the prophetic about him is found in the volume of the books in the Old Testament. Which we inherited from the Jewish people and the disciples had the Holy Spirit to help them to learn to discern. At the beginning they Preached the Gospel to the Jews in Jerusalem who had consent to Jesus Christ crusifiction as most of them sided with their Leaders and they Preached the Gospel as they did to complement their understanding and how to accept it according to what understand. Who were people under the law. If they would get everything right from the beginning they would not need the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of TRUTH and his help to discern and grow into the truth. And that is reflected in their teachings. As the Holy Spirit quided them specifically to Peter and established a new way to preach the Gospel and he Preached the Gospel to uncircumcised Romans who remained Romans and as they were unbaptized Jesus Christ gave his testimony that He accepts their faith in Him by forgiving their sins in the same way as he did with the Jews who believed in him while circumcised and been ceremonially clean and who came from the law. From having their sins forgiven with the Atonements of the law. Who realized that the Sinai Covenant was set aside and were found to be in their sins. The Catholic Church did exocommunicate people and used it as an excuse to exocommunicate Luther and all his followers. But they were not exocomunicated by Jesus Christ who quided Luther in his descent from the horrific Catholic teachings of that time. Let's keep in mind that there is a list of words not swearing words but words such as "virgin" that can get a recognition by the ministry and record a warning point to someone's profile and be view as a personal attack. Please refrain for using this word as it is their prerogative to do so. And not to get warning points in your profile. They do not inform the members from the beginning. They do not disclose it in advance but whether it is fair or just is another question but they still believe it is their prerogative to do that.

According to Jesus the last days are days of great blessings like never before. The moon will turn to blood and the stars will turn to darkness and fall on the earth.

Here Jesus is speaking about the way people live. He must have said that considering our times. Including the Gentile believers and the Gentile world foretelling that the Gentiles will believe and not all of them will repent and change lifestyle. Definitely that takes time. It's not about believers or non believers. It's about how people live. Actually this is only about believers in him about his own people. That not all of them will walk in the path of righteousness. He is not judging them. He emphasized the need of repentance of VAIN WORKS AND LIFESTYLES FOR HIS OWN PEOPLE.

Hebrews 10:25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching. The author of the letter wrote this definitely to Hebrews. He understood something to call the Israelites or Jews Hebrews. He wanted to asked themselves why he is calling them Hebrews. Why he set aside all other names they were used to calling them selfs and goes back to their bloodline to call them that and to remind about the bloodline of Abraham. Why he used this way to comunicate something important to them. This writer believed that all the Covenants they had with God they were just history. He already has distance him self from the ministry of the Priesthood. In the other matter he said that we do not need to go to the Synagogues but they should keep the Sabbath and the cleansing laws because they lived in that comunity and the law is the same for everyone who lives in the community. But they should have their own assembly which was risky that may be pointed out as enemies of the religions comunity. Many they may have family problems as not everyone was believed in their families and neighborhood and their in-laws and their employer. They had to remain low.

Those who have died in the faith of Jesus Christ they have died in the spirit of Jesus Christ as the children of the Spirit of Jesus Christ. His children in the Spirit. No one can seperate them from Jesus Christ because they are His. He bought them with His death on the Cross. Do you understand that? They are in the Eternal Life of Jesus Christ. Together with Paul. And what Paul said when he drunk more from the wine of Jesus Christ that Absent from the body is to ascend to be with and be present with the Lord Jesus Christ. Paul said the Lord showed me. Paul put a strong emphasis to his statement, "THE LORD SHOWED ME". Paul must have been very old at that time and distance from the years he wrote the letter to Thessalonians my cousins. "The Lord showed me" also includes that the Lord showed me something. He leadeth me to a NEW UNDERSTANDING. HE TEACH ME TO SAY THE NEW THING. He gave me the truth not to vision my self as one of the dead in Christ and what I was saying that the same is about to happen to me. The Lord gave me a New song. He had given that to his disciples when He was with them but I was not there. In my Father's house are many monai waiting for you to come and be where I am with me and the Heavenly Father. Paul sung a New Song Absent from the body, as soon as I die I will be found together with the Lord. I will ascent to be with Him in Heaven because that's where He is. WHERE THE HEAVENLY FATHER IS. PETER Made THE SAME statement of faith. ABSENT FROM THE BODY IS TO BE PRESENT WITH THE LORD. That's both of them died with these thoughts. AMEN

The road that leads to distraction that's what you call it is not the road to Hell. For some on that road it may be as it is the same for some people in the narrow road who pursue to justify them selves by their own righteous works and their strick lifestyle BUT without faith in Jesus Christ as a result they are in their Sins. This statement is asking for more specifics about the people who are on the wide road and they may be on their way to Hell not that they are in Hell but that they may or not be on the way to Hell. In other words some people in wide road they are believers in Jesus Christ. In the forgiveness of Jesus Christ and are saved. Their works cannot condemned them because their faith in Jesus Christ saved them.

This is a better approach to discuss the context of the specific verse and also there are others. Someone may say something and then we can discuss it. Paul had a context and he gave this letter to his own church and they were new believers first harvest from Gentile background. Who had not grown up in a strick environment to know right and wrong the way Paul did. And in addition to that it was the threat of being lured away and back to their old ways of life. Or even religion. Or become confused about what they had belief. Also they would become knowledgeable of what they believed and guide their children and family members to Jesus Christ if and when they were asked. Also the enemy will find them alone and isolated and play with them like a cat plays with the grandmother's wool ball. Making the question like that. And what does that mean? Not to forsake the assembly. Why Paul had to give this guidance. And post the verse. In quoting your post the context of the verse is missing. When ask the question is good to include the context of the verse. So it will be in your quoted post.

@bdavidc Greetings. Let's look at John 11:25-26 posted below. John 11: 25-26 25 Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die; 26 and whoever lives by believing in me will never die. Do you believe this?” What did Jesus said and what he did not say. Strictly from scripture. He said: I am the resurrection and the life. Let's look first about "I am the Life". In Genesis 3:3 but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’” You will die includes that before they disobey God and eat from the fruit of that tree they were in Life. Their Creator gave them of his Life. He breathed in them His Life. Man before the fall had the Life of his Creator in him. Adam had the task, the onus, the burden (no matter what word we use) to remain in the Life by his full obedience to his Creator. Their Creator had given them one commandment and the result of obedience to this commandment it was that they continued to be in the Life. The tree of death was in the Garden because Eve said we can eat from any tree but not this one and we must not even touch it. The tree of Life was in the Garden also. And if we understand the Gospel the tree of Life had no fruit yet. Jesus Christ must come and die in full obedience first before bearing the Fruit of Life and offer it to the fallen man or to mankind. The fruit of the tree is the Eternal Life. After Jesus Christ death on the Cross. The Gospel was preached after Jesus Christ death on the Cross because he is the one who died for the forgiveness of sins. He gives eternal forgiveness of sins and he gives life eternal because our sins are on him on the Cross and are not counted against us. We are free from our sins and our disobedience. We are in what Jesus Christ gives after the Cross to anyone who believes in him. Eternal forgiveness of sins and we are eternally alive in his forgiveness and in his eternal life. Because Jesus Christ testing finished when he died on the Cross in obedience to God his Heavenly Father. He obeyed Him if Jesus disobeyed God He also will fall.

Let's make simple. Jesus Christ died for all the people of the world and not just the people of God from Adam to Noah and from Noah to Abraham. Of course this line of the people of God were prophets and they died with the hope to wait for the one apointed by God to take them to his Heavenly Inheritance. Definitely they were not ignorant of what was happening in the earth because the people who died after them can filled them up with the resent news. Abraham got to receive his children in that place and with them were the prophets as was David and Esaiah and John the Baptist. Those people were prepared and ready and super ready because of John the Baptist. I will not say anything about them because Jesus Christ said that Abraham knows my day and he rejoiced. The point now sifts to the dead of the rest of the world the must have some fair knowledge of the coming of the Christ of God to them also because the time to believe from the time the heard the Gospel from Jesus Christ it was three days till his resurrection. The question is were they given more time than that to consider and decide. This not for us to say anything about that.The only thing we can tell that God gave them a fair chance to believe and the Gospel to them was preached with clarity. To them the Gospel of Jesus was only preached after the death of Jesus Christ because it was preached from Jesus Christ. To that I agree that the Gospel was preached to whoever was in the place of the dead. That everyone heard the Gospel and were invited to believe. The people of God definitely believe because they were waiting for the Savior to come to them. But also whoever from the rest of the world in the place of the dead were predestined to be included in Jesus Christ in the same way by believing in him. I am the Life and the resurrection and those who had died will come to life or will live. How did Jesus say it. Berean Literal Bible Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life; the one believing in Me, even if he should die, he will live.john 11:25. This statement cannot apply in the grammar it is written to those who had died before Jesus Christ. But a similar message can be said for them when they believed in Gospel of Jesus Christ when it was preached to them by Jesus Christ after his death on the Cross. everyone will be Judged according to their faith in Jesus Christ. Every one has to be put in the valley of decision before he appeares before the judgment sit of Jesus Christ to be judged according to his faith or denial in Jesus Christ.

@warrior12 greetings to an old friend. At first we have Jesus and Nicodemus in John 3. Jesus showed Nicodemus coming and it seems that He was expecting him and Knew the reason of his visit. Jesus was ahead of Nicodemus and his reasons of his visit. When Jesus told him that he can't see the Kingdom of God He was telling him that Nicodemus didn't have the correct understanding of the Kingdom of God and so the rest of the leaders and the people. Their visions of the Kingdom of God did not have the Messiah Crusified on the Cross and the people born from the Spirit of God from above. Jesus let Nicodemus know something big. He said to him when you see the Son of Man lifted up in the same way Moses lifted the Bronze Serpent the those things he told him earlier will happen. That the people will be born from the Spirit of God. Jesus was telling him that the Spirit of God will come and cause the New Birth. Jesus let Nicodemus on a trail of what and how it will happen. The one who lifted up the Bronze Serpent was the Leader of the people together with Aaron. And when the time came Nicodemus witness the same thing happening that the Leaders of the people and the Priest have the order to lift up Jesus in like manner Moses and Aaron lifted up the Bronze Serpent. Later when the disciples preached the Gospel then Nicodemus understood what he wanted to know and what everyone else wanted to know that this is how the Messiah will forgive the sins of the people. They Knew that the Messiah will forgive their sins but they did not know how it will happen. Nicodemus when he heard that Jesus was glorified and he is worship together with God then he connected to that from what happened to the Bronze Serpent after the Bronze Serpent or the power of the Bronze Serpent healed them from their sins back then in the dessert and afterwards Moses put the Bronze Serpent in the Temple and the people burned incense to it and worship Him together with God. The rest is history and we know that Nicodemus believed and he worship Jesus Christ without any fear. Nicodemus understood that God won't be the one to forgive their sins as God was not the one to forgive their sins that time in the dessert with Moses. And their sins at that time were forgiven outside the Law and the Temple and without the services of Aaron without a sacrifice or offering of incense. Their God had apointed the Bronze Serpent to healed them from their sins. This is why the scripture said about the Christ that "by his stripes we were healed" Foreseeing that Jesus will receive the lasses and punished for our sins. Nicodemus understood that God had appointed Jesus Christ to forgive our sins. The Messiah the Christ of God. Jesus let Nicodemus know that when that time come the people of God from the Sinai Covenant will not be included in the New born from above Family of God or from the old family of God to the New Family of God by default. Because it will not happened by default Abraham will lose many of his children because they will not believe. That it has to happen on the basis of faith that Jesus the Christ of God had to die on the Cross to give life to everyone who believes in him. That what it means to have your sins forgiven by Jesus Christ you are receiving from his life which after the Cross is the Eternal Life because the testing of Jesus finished with his death on the Cross and he did not fall rather he was glorified and together with him the children of his Spirit are Heavenly bound after the eartly body it will take its course and meet its end. Absent from the body is present with the Lord. Jesus then follow the Nicodemus event and He said everyone who believes in me is not Judged and he said follow me. I do not Judge the believer in me and you should not Judge the believer in me also. Be happy that the Devil cannot bring an accusation of sin against the believers in me because his sting is without deadly poison. His "sting" has no death. Thanks to Jesus Christ. No matter how one rolls the dice the sins of the believers in Jesus Christ will never be HELD against them. The Devil can take good people who deny Jesus Christ forgiveness of sins. And Jesus Christ will take sinners who are under his forgiveness of sins. Or believe in him. Today the comunity has given a twist to what Jesus said to Nicodemus. Definitely not Paul or the disciples preached the Gospel in a similar fashion. They Preached Jesus Christ and to believe in him for the forgiveness of sins and then as his own your repentance is to him in and in his name alone.That was important to the Jews who believed in Jesus Christ from the old testament who had repentance in a different way. John said in his mature years when someone believes that Jesus Christ died is born from God. To emphasize that Jesus Christ had to die and the way to the Heavenly Father is only by believing in Jesus Christ.

I am repented but I will not judge other believers because one time and times I lived as I was think it was fit for me. And Jesus did not judge me. He keeps telling me that I am his. And he cares.

Paul teache us something that those in this affliction need more grace than anyone who has learn to walk in a better way. The church can judge him and they should not to encourage others and the family can judge him to. To also scare the other children and the community also has to do that because they did not die for the forgiveness of his sins and they did not pay the price for his sins or punished for his sins but the one who did will also get to judge him while he lives in the body for the best way to help him come around. And the Devil also wants a bite of him. And Jesus cannot be blamed for not doing something for his afflictions when they told Jim all is possible with God. Jesus love and God's love towards us is while we were in our sins Jesus Christ died for us. No one pray for him to die. To the contrary they tried to stopped him. But he needed to go to the next level from having the life of God to be having the Eternal Life that it will remain eternal with God. This is it his testing finished with his death on the Cross. His testing lasted for three years after the Holy Spirit left Jesus in the dessert and his hunger came back and he overcame the first round and the Angels came to minister to him. His testing finished with his death on the Cross. Good for us he saved us while he is in the Eternal Life and that's our security. We sin but he remains Holy. And as he is so we are. Not in the flesh but in his forgiveness and in his grace to forgive us before we ask.

This question has to be answer that no man can saved himself. Or do something else besides what Jesus did. Jesus is saving the Spiritual Man. Jesus redeemed the Spiritual Man. He gives eternal life to the Spiritual Man. The flesh belongs to the earth. The question is the way the Gospels preach. Did someone died with faith in Jesus Christ in his heart.

The fruit of the flesh it does. And the big point is that in his letters Paul tries to correct the believers. And Jesus Christ he did the same to the churches who were the seven Golden lampstands. That's amazing. The ever going correction and everyone goes ashtray in his doctrinal beliefs. This is a fact. The disciples had to experience that also. Jesus kept them humble.

Jesus said that nothing can take you from me , you are in my hand. Nothing means no accusation and no any scenario situations. I am the Lord and you are mine. No one can come and contest you with me. Every knee shall bow down to me.

To all fairness to him he confirmed what I posted. That the monent when anyone who didn't believe before believes at that precise moment he is in Jesus Christ. He is in the Eternal Life of Jesus Christ. He has the eternal life. This is what he posted and your bold letters do not reflect that. Check it for your self.

Please do not misquote the brother to talk about something you think you understand. Jesus said I must die first. And be tested till the end. John the Baptist wanted what Jesus had and he did not have but Jesus could not give it to him because if he did then there was another way besides the Cross and Jesus said there is not another way I must be tested till the end and die in full obedience to the Father. The brother talked about the "Eternal Life " not who had the Life of God from the beginning. Please use John's words and not others without specific identification.