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And if the man of sin stands on the temple mount and declares himself the Messiah or the Mahdi , will unknowing Christians receive or reject him.
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1. Come and see the show it's a dynamo! 2. Praise the Lord and pass the plate.
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20 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:
An object placed in Jerusalem that would cause great distress,the likes of which has never been seen upon earth since there was ever a nation to that time or ever shall be.An object that destroys flesh.
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
According to Daniel the object that causes desolation. Is placed in Jerusalem by the armed forces of the north.
Daniel 11:31
“His armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. Then they will set up the abomination that causes desolation.
Like the Ark of the Covenant?
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22 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:
According to Jesus ,when the abomination of desolation is placed in Jerusalem ,then the people in Judea will flee to the mountains.
If no one fled in fled in 688,then the abomination of desolation wasn't put in Jerusalem in 688.
And what do you "understand" Jesus was describing?
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19 hours ago, Revelation Man said:
This is just in error on all points. The 2nd Beast is the False Prophet from the Land (Israel, or the land being oppressed).
Rev. 17 is about the Scarlet Colored Beast (Apollyon) with NO CROWNS. The 8th King is Apollyon.
None of the 7 rule over ALL MEN of their time, they rule over ALL MEN in the DESIGNATED AREA of the 7 Horns and 10 kings (E.U.) so, lets look at the 6 Kings AND the coming Anti-Christ kingdoms on a set of maps. 1-6 the the Anti-Christs 7th kingdom to come.
1. Egypt ruled over the Mediterranean Sea Region(MSR) and Israel was in bondage in Egypt, they were the 1st of 7 Heads in Rev.
2.) Assyria was the 2nd Head, over the MSR and Israel in Rev.
3.) Babylon was the 3rd Head over the MSR and Israel in Rev.
4.) Persia was the 4rth Head over the MSR and Israel in Rev.
5.) Greece was the 5th Head over the MSR and Israel in Rev.
6.) The Roman Empire was the 6th Head over the MSR and Israel in the book of Revelation, they covered the entire MSR coastline
Notice Rome conquered the whole MSR coastline, and Babylon's landmass and briefly the Persian landmass, and Greece, and Egypt, and Old Assyria. Greece and Rome ruled at the same time, Antiochus was ruling in Egypt and Israel while Rome was a great kingdom, this is significant in end times prophecy because the Last Beast Head (Anti-Christ) will have a king/rule that has to be born in Greece (Dan. 8:9 mandates this) and he will then arise to power in the 10 [Kings/E.U.] that simply means Complete Europe Reunited (Dan. 7:7-8 mandates this). So, those two that existed simultaneously will both play a part in the End Time Beast. He will also have Assyrian Blood (old Assyria was Northern Iraq and Southern Turkey mostly).
7.) The Anti-Christ or 7th Beast Head of the book of Revelation will be the Anti-Christ, whom the E.U. gives power unto, or votes in via their E.U. Parliament. He then Conquers the whole MSR including Israel to become the 7th Head of Rev. 12, 13 and 17.
The Blue (E.U.) conquers these other nations they currently have "Agreements" with (agreement in Hebrew = Covenant) and I assume Israel JOINING the E.U. because of the Gog & Magog war will be what kicks everything off, God's anger at Israel will be rekindled in that they "gave away" His land so to speak by joining the E.U., who mandates Israel give up her nukes and allow the E.U. to "protect them". Thus the Rapture which is Pre Trib, should happen right after Israel joins the E.U. but it is not mandatory, the Rapture may happen just before that event.
Now look at Dan. 11:40-43, the nations who get conquered are clearly the same path as Dan. 8:9 indicates, which says the Little Horn conquers TOWARDS the East (Turkey/Seleucid), I will show how this all MATCHES below via the Dan. 11 scriptures. Then he conquers TOWARDS the South (Egypt/Ptolemy) and TOWARDS the Israel or the Pleasant Land. Now lets look at the Daniel 11 war.
Dan. 11:40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south(Egypt/North Africa/Jordan/Turkey/Syria/Lebanon) push at him: and the king of the north(E.U. Anti-Christ/President) shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over(He conquers countries in order to get at Israel, Turkey, Syria, Lebanon and Jordan.)
41 He shall enter also into the glorious land(Israel), and many countries shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, even Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon(So, the MANY in Dan. 9:27 and 8:25 reference the MANY COUNTRIES the Beast conquers besides Israel !! But as we see the Beast is not allowed to conquer these Central and Southern Jordan regions, Edom, Moab & Ammon where the Jews flee unto in the Petra and Bozrah region.)
42 He shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries: and the land of Egypt shall not escape. 43 But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps (Thus we know the Beast conquers all of North Africa also).
Dan. 8:9 MANDATES that the Beast/Little Horn conquers from the Northwest corridor of the Four Generals Region, or Greece in this inter-kingdom battle. He also must conquer from the E.U. 10, and it just so happens Greece is a part of the 10 (Complete Europe Reunited).
So, these are your 7 Mountains of power over Israel and the MSR and Satan placed a Demon named Apollyon over them. He was over Egypt when the Pharaoh tried to run Israel into the Red Sea, he was over Assyria when they toted the 10 Norther tribes off. He was over Babylon, nuff said, he was over Persia, as a matter of fact he is the entity (of course) who resisted Michael for 21 days in Daniel 10. Then he was over Greece, followed by Apollyon being over Rome. He was known unto Israel as "The Destroyer" in other words his mandate from Satan was to destroy Israel. After 70 AD God placed Apollyon into the Bottomless Pit for the duration of the Church Age and until the First Woe, where he will be released, then kill the Two-witnesses as Rev. 11 shows us.
Thus the Scarlet Colored Beast (a Demon but he can't be Red, so he is Scarlet) was over the 6 Heads/Mountains/Powers and he will be over the Anti-Christ/Beast after he is released from the pit. Thus he will have been "OF THE 7 Kings" and he is an 8th King. But he has NO CROWNS as Rev. 17 clearly shows, meanwhile Satan has CROWNS on all 7 of these Kingdoms, and the Anti-Christ has CROWNS on all 10 (the E.U. in Completion) of the kings/horns of power. Yes, Jesus will crush them by the presence of his coming, WTHOUT HAND, he simply speaks victory. Antiochus is an Archetype, thus he died via a disease (WITHOUT HAND) also.
I'm with you up to the 7th head. Your explanation of the first six empires as "MSR" would also be understood as the "known" world, as highlighted by each progressively getting larger. But on the other hand the United Nations contains nearly all of the nations of the "known" world including the E.U. One must follow the Daniel 2 image "timeline" and demonstrate who the feet and toes of clay and iron are? Ten nations of the U.N. have the ability to make fire come out heaven and destroy, they are the ten toes. Soon another crisis like the covid 19 will be upon the world and the scriptures will be fufilled.
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On 6/26/2023 at 11:22 AM, Revelation Man said:
No, these are two men, Rev. 19:20 tells you this, as does Dan. 7:11, the Beast is cast into hellfire.
11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth(False Prophet is from Israel, the Gentile Beast Conquerors are from The Sea); and he had two horns like a lamb(a Religious Figure ala the Faslse Prophet will be a Jewish High Priest in league with the E.U. President a la the Anti-Christ/Beast), and he spake as a dragon.
12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast (Anti-Christ) before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
The second beast with "two horns" is not "the false prophet". The first beast is explained in Rev. 17: 7-11, the seven mountains are kingdoms that rule over all men of their time as Daniel 2: 37,38 explains. The 8th king "Satan" has always been an influence in the affairs of kingdoms. And Yeshua the mountain crushes them all!
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21 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:
So who exactly fled to the mountains in 688 AD?
It sure wasn't Jews, there were none around that's why it's called desolations. And they still have to stand at the western wall look up and ask the Lord, "when will Messiah come ?"
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The abomination of the desolation was dedicated in 688 A.D. and is still there to this day.
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If any man have an ear, let him hear, Rev. 13; 11 is the United States, verse 12 the United Nations, verse 13 Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and verse 14 the image Israel.
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5 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:
Now that sounds rather childish..
Your like the play ground bully calling people Satan
Blame it on satan, no offence, I'm not calling you satan brother.
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8 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:
But bloom thinks the UN controls Donald Trump.He believes the UN is to blame.
By 2030 is the plan. To an extent they did help get him defeated.
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20 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:
You saying the UN made Donald Trump move his embassy to Jerusalem?
You honestly believe the UN controls Donald Trump?
The Donald Trump?
He was easily manipulated, ask Kushner, and then covid and he was gone.
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11 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:
The second beast has not arrived in Jerusalem yet.
The mark of the beast has not been issued yet.
Where has the embassy of the U.S. been moved to?
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9 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:
The United nations has no power over anything.It can't even agree on anything much less do anything.
Who does their policing for them, the 2nd beast the United States. NGO's are another tool of Geneva that is used with an almost invisible effect.
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2 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:
That's really not the point I was trying to make.The horns came up seperately.Have you ever looked at Nebuchadnezzars empire as it was then and as it is now?
The kingdom has been devided.
The christians and Muslims in those ten countries don't cleave to one another but the kingdom itself has been parceled out.
And then you have the little horn in the midst of them who is different than all the rest.
I missed who those ten horn are, can you name them please?
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21 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:
Daniel 7:8
While I was thinking about the horns, there before me was another horn, a little one, which came up among them; and three of the first horns were uprooted before it. This horn had eyes like the eyes of a human being and a mouth that spoke boastfully.
I've noticed the little horn speaks far more boastfully since it has this newer right wing government.Very boastfully.
we are the masters of Jerusalem and the entire Land of Israel."
You must read United Nations resolution 303 to know who really controls Jerusalem. Israel is the image of the beast with no control over the temple mount except for police powers.
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21 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:
PS,the ten horns are the same as the ten toes of Nebuchadnezzars feet.Nebuchadnezzars kingdom has been devided.
Daniel 2:41
And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.
Nebuchadnezzaras kingdom is devided.Been that way since soon after the British defeated the Ottoman Turks.
Which is the iron and which is the clay? I tried to explain that in another topic of yours but it disappeared from veiw.
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10 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:
They continue to rule.
The second beast will practice the authority of the Israeli government on their behalf.The second beast is an army provided to the Israeli government by its good friend and close ally in the north.But the Israeli government will rule right up to the time of the end when the Muslim nations attack them and take Jerusalem at the end of the 42 months.
Luke 21
10 Then said he unto them, Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom:
11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.
12 But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake
The war doesn't start till AFTER the tribulation and persecution of the saints in Israel by the Israeli government.AFTER the unbeliving Jews have persecuted the church in Israel ,then God gives those unbelieving Jews over to the nations to be slaughtered.
Who are the 10 horns and which 3 will form a confederation with the little horn ?
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3 hours ago, kwikphilly said:
Right,I do not and have said so but I would not say anyone is an apostate for misinterpretaion - is it sin? Well,I don't believe that if my Brethren believes as he does and it is not a Salvational issues and let's go a step further than that- and he tells it to others,no I don't consider that sin.....one must examine the heart my friend,just because someone has gotten something wrong does not make him a sinner,still he may not YET have Received that Truth.... You do remember why Jesus Gave His very Own Life in place of ours,of course you do.....Following Christ is a Journey,a Journey that Reveals all Truth,He is the Way,the Truth and the Life....I think our Lord Has much more Patience & Understanding than I see displayed by some of these accusatory posts- don't you?
Remember the fellow at the alter confessing his sin & said "Well,at least I'm not as bad as THAT fellow who's much worse a sinner than I"...... (Someone be so kind to quote the Scripture for me-Im on the move here on the phone)Whos heart needed to be examined?
We must think before we make accusations at our Brother and Sisters,the Apostles seemed to get a lot wrong and Jesus Would Say( my own translation)" How long must I be with you before you SEE,before you get what I've been telling you over & over, you guys are difficult !!!!!" Oh how Jesus Loved them!
My only Hope,in Christ is to see more Love and Unity here and everywhere amongst the Body of Christ,it grieves my Spirit everytime I read either" false teacher!""Apostate" and " this one or that one is a heretic"....it's unkind and worst of all a very bad look on anyond who Represents Christ Jesus...
I don't know who knows what about the Tribulation but I do know this,it's not about guts and definitely not about WHAT you know,it's about WHO we Know- and that is WHO Will Overcome through any times,any situation,any persecution....in Him is the Glory!I can do ALL things in Christ Who Strengthens me!
I know many a Christian who can't bear an illness,a headache or a broken finger and yet they do by the Grace of God- they cry,they complain,they get depressed,they FEEL defeated but through prayer and by their FAITH they Overcome,we stand on a Position of Victory my friend- many times this Revelation comes at the Appointed Time of suffering and not a moment before......Praise Jesus!
With love in Christ( my guts come from WHO I am in Christ and have nothing to do with how I interpret many things throughout Scripture)And to God be the Glory❤️
Your Sister in Christ,Kwik
Hold on Kwik, why the animosity. Please read 2 Timothy chapter 3 and tell me what i'm missing? Shining a light on "TRUTH" and a false hope is what a Christian is all about. Is the corporate Christian church immune to the wiles of the devil, not hardly he's working overtime especially among the Church. You say it is not salvational then my ticket on the pre- trib rapture train is already punched, on the other hand how will Christians ever know who the false prophet and 8th beast are when the "TIME" comes.
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53 minutes ago, farouk said:
John 14.3; 1 Corinthians 11.26; 1 Thessalonians 4.16-18
Taking scripture out of context does not prove the church will not be on earth till Christ brings those who are asleep with him to kick dragon.
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10 hours ago, kwikphilly said:
Blessings to you
I have to ask why you think this nonSalvational issue would make one an apostate?Also,wouldn't you consider Satan convincing others that there are many ways to Heaven a lie with the greatest ramifications?
So what are the consequences for believing a pre- trib rapture?All I can see is " oops,thank God I have Jesus because this sure is a surprise!"
I'm not poking fun ,it's justs a controversial subject and imo it shouldn't be- I don't believe a pre - trib rapture,Scripture does not support that as I see it but I'd sure like to be wrong if I am living at the Appointed Time!😀
In His Love,Kwik
By your own admission it is not to be found in the text, therefore it is not biblical truth and teaching it to others is a falsehood. Some would call that a sin. Believing in a rapture would be misleading yourself from overcoming in the " Appointed Time". If you can't stand a little tribulation what good would you be to YHVH in the "Appointed Time". No guts no glory.
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9 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:
Your ignoring who is already ruling Jerusalem.
Will they continue to rule or will they cede control in the last 42 months?
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Apostacy is the preaching of a pre-trib rapture, satan's greatest lie. Those teaching it are tools of the devil.
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On 3/18/2023 at 6:53 AM, Selah7 said:
Here’s my take on chapter 13 of Revelation.
Revelation 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
And here’s the explanation:
Revelation 17:3 So he carried me away in the Spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
The “woman” refers to the peoples of the world—a one world system. So this scarlet colored beast is influencing and deceiving the minds of the people.
Revelation 17:7 And the angel said unto me, “Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.
Revelation 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition; and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
The beast here is Satan.
Revelation 17:9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom, the seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.
The “mountains” here refer to nations. These nations are where the woman sits and that woman is MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS.
mystery
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musterion (moos-tay'-ree-on); from a derivative of muo (to shut the mouth); a secret or "mystery" (through the idea of silence imposed by initiation into religious rites):
KJV - mystery.
—the mystery being the instant one's faith is changed by turning away from Jesus and turning to worship satan without even recognizing it—the great apostasy. They are deceived thinking Satan is Jesus.
Revelation 17:12 and the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
Revelation 17:15 And he saith unto me, “The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
deception and lies = the whore. That “woman” is “that great city.” She is an idol worshiper, worshiping Satan (AC) instead of the true Christ. Remember, the Antichrist comes at the 6th trump. Jesus Christ returns at the 7th trump.
Revelation 17:18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.
Revelation 17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
So the name of the woman is some secret sign or symbol of “that great city” which she personifies. Babel means confusion. She, this one world religious system, will promote and support all of the Antichrist’s blasphemy and lies and deception.
The beast is Satan with his seven nations that are the peoples of the earth that the whore sitteth on, and that whore is “that great city” meaning confusion. The people are deceived into worshiping Antichrist, because they think he is Christ.
The peoples are the “waters” on which that great city of confusion floats on—that one world system.s e l a h
The beast is the United Nations, awaiting the 8th head satan (Rev 17:11). The woman is Jerusalem where satan will rule from.
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the time satan is cast to the earth to rule his kingdom