Heb 13:8

Inaugurated, as in put life into it? Doesn't life begin at conception? Life begins at conception, not birth Psa 139:13-16, Jer 1:4-5, Matt 1:20, Acts 2:1-4 (Roe v. Wade) The church came out of Israel brother. That's where it all began, in Israel. Similar to how Isa 26:18 is giving birth to the Holy Spirit. Isa 50:1 This is what the LORD says: "Where is your mother's certificate of divorce with which I sent her away? Or to which of my creditors did I sell you? Because of your sins you were sold; because of your transgressions your mother was sent away. Jer 3:8 I gave faithless Israel her certificate of divorce and sent her away because of all her adulteries. Yet I saw that her unfaithful sister Judah had no fear; she also went out and committed adultery. Micah 5:2-4 (Verse 2 Jesus time)"But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah (Israelite woman), though you are small among the clans of Judah, out of you will come for me one who will be ruler over Israel, whose origins are from of old, from ancient times." (Verse 3 Our time) 3Therefore Israel will be abandoned until the time when she who is in labor bears a son, and the rest of his brothers return to join the Israelites. (Verse 4 1000 year reign time) 4He will stand and shepherd his flock in the strength of the LORD, in the majesty of the name of the LORD his God. And they will live securely, for then his greatness will reach to the ends of the earth. Ephrath or Ephrathah: an Israelite woman, also the name of several places in Palestine Original Word: אֶפְרָת Part of Speech: proper name; proper name, of a location; proper name, feminine Transliteration: Ephrath or Ephrathah Phonetic Spelling: (ef-rawth') Short Definition: Ephrath

When we place the 1290 days at the beginning, it all seems to fall on biblical days.. 2017 - 2024 Time Line (1.) The first four feasts have already been fulfilled 2,000 years ago (2.) The last three feasts are still future, and the Feast of Trumpets is next on 9/21/17 (3.) The Rev 12:1-5 sign lands two days after the Feast of Trumpets (Feast starts 1290 days in Dan 12:11) (4.) In Dan 12:11, we are the sacrifice taken away that kicks off the 1290 days (Isa 53:11 amal/trouble, Rev 7:14 thlipsis/trouble), Rom 8:17, Rom 12:1, Rom 15:16, 1 Cor 15:31, 2 Cor 1:5, Gal 2:20, Phil 2:17, Phil 3:10, Col 1:24 (5.) The abomination of desolation then lands on Passover Sabbath on 4/2/21 Dan 9:27, Dan 11:31, Dan 12:11, Matt 24:15 (6.) The second coming of Christ then lands on the Day of Atonement on 9/13/24 Isa 24:23, Isa 37:32, Eze 16:63, Joe 2:32, Oba 1:17, Oba 1:21, Mic 4:7, Zech 14:4 (7.) The 1000 year reign with Christ then lands on 11/26/24, 75 days later (24th day/9th month on Hebrew Calendar) Hagg 2:10, 18, 20 God Bless You. How are you with this.. The Head / Body (1.) John uses the words "huios" and "teknon" in Rev 12:5, head and body Col 1:18 (2.) The head (Jesus Christ) was birthed 2,000 years ago when He ascended to heaven Acts 1:1-11 (3.) The body (the church) however was conceived 2,000 years ago at Pentecost, not birthed Acts 2:1-4 (4.) Life begins at conception, not birth Psa 139:13-16, Jer 1:4-5, Matt 1:20, Acts 2:1-4 (Roe v. Wade) (5.) The body (the church) has been in gestation for 2,000 years up until now (Isa 53:11 amal/trouble, Rev 7:14 thlipsis/trouble), Luke 22:39-46, (Acts 2:24 ódin/agony of death/childbirth), Rom 6:1-5, Rom 8:22-23, 2 Cor 5:1-5, Phil 3:20-21 (6.) Each time a person gets saved, they get put into the body of Christ John 3:16, John 5:24, John 6:35-40, John 10:25-30, Rom 4:7, Rom 6:1-5, Rom 8:38-39, 1 Cor 15:12-19, Eph 1:13-14, Eph 4:30, Heb 6:18-19, Heb 9:12, Heb 10:11-14, 1 John 5:4-5, 1 John 5:9-14, 2 John 1:2. (7.) The birth of the body into incorruptible seed is next, through rapture event Rom 6:1-5, 1 Cor 9:25, 1 Cor 15:50-54, 1 Thess 4:17, 1 Pet 1:4, 1 Pet 1:23, Rev 12:5 (8.) John uses "teknon" (the church) once in Rev 12:4 and once in Rev 12:5 (9.) The body of Christ is raptured before the dragon devours us, (the moment he was born) Rev 12:4-5

Isa 26:20 Go, my people, enter your rooms (cheder) and shut the doors behind you; hide yourselves for a little while until his wrath has passed by. cheder: a chamber, room Original Word: חֶ֫דֶר Part of Speech: Noun Masculine Transliteration: cheder Phonetic Spelling: (kheh'-der) Short Definition: bedroom http://www.bridalcovenant.com/wedding1.html John 14:2 My Father's house has many rooms (moné); if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? moné: an abiding, an abode Original Word: μονή, ῆς, ἡ Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine Transliteration: moné Phonetic Spelling: (mon-ay') Short Definition: lodging, dwelling-place, room Definition: lodging, dwelling-place, room, abode, mansion. Isa 26:18 We were with child, we writhed in labor, but we gave birth to wind (ruach). We have not brought salvation to the earth, and the people of the world have not come to life. John 3:8 The wind (pneuma) blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit (pneuma)." ruach: breath, wind, spirit Original Word: ר֫וּחַ Part of Speech: Noun Feminine Transliteration: ruach Phonetic Spelling: (roo'-akh) Short Definition: spirit pneuma: wind, spirit Original Word: πνεῦμα, ατος, τό Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter Transliteration: pneuma Phonetic Spelling: (pnyoo'-mah) Short Definition: wind, breath, spirit Definition: wind, breath, spirit. https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&q=ruach+holy+spirit&oq=ruach+holy&gs_l=psy-ab.3.0.0j0i22i30k1l3.888.4720.0.6135.9.8.0.0.0.0.139.827.4j4.8.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..1.8.824.0..0i20k1j0i10k1.iM4_5z_oURU - Heb 13:8

Right! came into existence, that is conception! Israel is our mother shiloh. Read Isa 50:1, Jer 3:8, (Micah 5:2 Ephrathah/an Israelite woman). Where do you think the church came from? Is Jesus Jewish?

That's right, and the birth in Rev 12:5 is for the body, since it's been in gestation for 2,000 years.

I do not. Rapture notes are always good. Pet's, I don't know. I'm sorry. Praying about it might help.

shiloh, that's the reason for rapture, so the body can be connected to the head. Why do you think John used the words "huios" and "teknon" in Rev 12:5? God Bless brother. No, the body is not a metaphor, it's a physical feature in His end times plan. It's you and me, anyone who is born again! (1.) Each time a person gets saved, they get put into the body of Christ John 3:16, John 5:24, John 6:35-40, John 10:25-30, Rom 4:7, Rom 6:1-5, Rom 8:38-39, 1 Cor 15:12-19, Eph 1:13-14, Eph 4:30, Heb 6:18-19, Heb 9:12, Heb 10:11-14, 1 John 5:4-5, 1 John 5:9-14, 2 John 1:2. (2.) The word "huios" is referenced here.. The church has many names and is also considered male Isa 66:7-9, Matt 13:38, Luke 20:36, John 12:36, Rom 8:14, Gal 3:26, 1 Thess 5:5, Rev 12:5 - Heb 13:8

Right, but it's the head and body study that you seem to be confused on. Read that part.

No shiloh, the vision is referencing the head and body being joined together through rapture. Jesus was already born 2000 years ago, His part is done. Jesus is the head, the church is the body. Now it's time for the body to be born. Please read this below.. The Head / Body (1.) John uses the words "huios" and "teknon" in Rev 12:5, head and body Col 1:18 (2.) The head (Jesus Christ) was birthed 2,000 years ago when He ascended to heaven Acts 1:1-11 (3.) The body (the church) however was conceived 2,000 years ago at Pentecost, not birthed Acts 2:1-4 (4.) Life begins at conception, not birth Psa 139:13-16, Jer 1:4-5, Matt 1:20, Acts 2:1-4 (Roe v. Wade) (5.) The body (the church) has been in gestation for 2,000 years up until now (Isa 53:11 amal/trouble, Rev 7:14 thlipsis/trouble), Luke 22:39-46, (Acts 2:24 ódin/agony of death/childbirth), Rom 6:1-5, Rom 8:22-23, 2 Cor 5:1-5, Phil 3:20-21 (6.) Each time a person gets saved, they get put into the body of Christ John 3:16, John 5:24, John 6:35-40, John 10:25-30, Rom 4:7, Rom 6:1-5, Rom 8:38-39, 1 Cor 15:12-19, Eph 1:13-14, Eph 4:30, Heb 6:18-19, Heb 9:12, Heb 10:11-14, 1 John 5:4-5, 1 John 5:9-14, 2 John 1:2. (7.) The birth of the body into incorruptible seed is next, through rapture event Rom 6:1-5, 1 Cor 9:25, 1 Cor 15:50-54, 1 Thess 4:17, 1 Pet 1:4, 1 Pet 1:23, Rev 12:5 (8.) John uses "teknon" (the church) once in Rev 12:4 and once in Rev 12:5 (9.) The body of Christ is raptured before the dragon devours us, (the moment he was born) Rev 12:4-5 God Bless.

1The word of the Lord came to me: 2“Son of man, speak to your people and say to them: ‘When I bring the sword against a land, and the people of the land choose one of their men and make him their watchman, 3and he sees the sword coming against the land and blows the trumpet to warn the people, 4then if anyone hears the trumpet but does not heed the warning and the sword comes and takes their life, their blood will be on their own head. 5Since they heard the sound of the trumpet but did not heed the warning, their blood will be on their own head. If they had heeded the warning, they would have saved themselves. 6But if the watchman sees the sword coming and does not blow the trumpet to warn the people and the sword comes and takes someone’s life, that person’s life will be taken because of their sin, but I will hold the watchman accountable for their blood.’ (1.) The Four Blood Moons Picture - http://yowusa.com/space/2014/space-2014-02a/blood-moon2.jpg (2.) 8/21/17 & 4/8/24 Total Solar Eclipse Picture - http://eclipse.siu.edu/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/2017-2024.jpg (3.) Rev 12:1-2 Picture - https://i.ytimg.com/vi/XXxVwpcXV0U/maxresdefault.jpg (4.) Rev 12:1-5 Picture - https://i.ytimg.com/vi/oRCx47PPo4E/hqdefault.jpg (5.) Planet X Picture - http://godinanutshell.com/2017/01/17/red-dragon/ 1 week = 7 years 2017-2024 - Dan 9:27 And he shall make a strong covenant with many for one week, and for half of the week he shall put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall come one who makes desolate, until the decreed end is poured out on the desolator.” History (1.) The four blood moons of 2014-2015 were warning signs pointing to 9/23/17 Joel 2:31 (2.) 9/23/17 is not a warning sign, rather it will be the action 1 Thess 5:3 (3.) 1897, 1917, 1947, 1967, 2017 are all important Israel dates and Jubilee's 1897 + 120 = 2017 Gen 6:3 (4.) Fig Tree Generation - 1947 + 70 years = 2017 Psa 90:10, Matt 24:32-35 (5.) Rev 12:1-5 only occurs once in Stellarium in 7,000 years, on 9/23/17 The Word Rapture (6.) The Feast of Trumpets represents rapture, the appointed time (Gen 1:14 moed/seasons) (Lev 23:2 moed/festivals) (7.) The word harpazo/rapture is a part of the Rev 12:1-5 sign, in Rev 12:5 (8.) The Latin translation for rapture is rapturo, in Greek it's harpazo (9.) In Dan 12:11, we are the sacrifice taken away that kicks off the 1290 days (Isa 53:11 amal/trouble, Rev 7:14 thlipsis/trouble), Rom 8:17, Rom 12:1, Rom 15:16, 1 Cor 15:31, 2 Cor 1:5, Gal 2:20, Phil 2:17, Phil 3:10, Col 1:24 (10.) Rapture before tribulation is here Gen 19:21-22, Lev 12:1-8, Psa 18:2, Psa 27:5, Isa 26:17-21, Isa 66:7-8, John 14:1-4, Luke 21:34-36, 1 Thess 5:9-10, (Jude 1:14, Rev 19:14 saints coming back to earth), Rev 3:10, Rev 4:4, Rev 5:5, Rev 12:1-5 The Heavens (11.) Virgo gives birth to Jupiter in September of 2017 (12.) Virgo is Israel (our mother) Isa 50:1, Jer 3:8, (Micah 5:2 Ephrathah/an Israelite woman), Gal 4:26, and Jupiter is the body of Christ (the child) Isa 66:7-9, Matt 13:38, Luke 20:36, John 12:36, Rom 8:14-17, Gal 3:26, Col 1:18, 1 Thess 5:5, Rev 12:5 (13.) The sun, moon, stars, planets, constellations are for signs, times, days, years, seasons Gen 1:14, Job 38:31-32, Psa 19:1-6, Psa 104:19, Psa 136:7, Isa 40:26, Luke 21:25-28 (14.) The Rev 12:1-5 sign is also connected to Planet X in Rev 12:3-4, (Rev chapter 12&13/red dragon and mark of the beast), Enuma Elish by L. W. King or by Doug Elwell The Head / Body (15.) John uses the words "huios" and "teknon" in Rev 12:5, head and body Col 1:18 (16.) The head (Jesus Christ) was birthed 2,000 years ago when He ascended to heaven Acts 1:1-11 (17.) The body (the church) however was conceived 2,000 years ago at Pentecost, not birthed Acts 2:1-4 (18.) Life begins at conception, not birth Psa 139:13-16, Jer 1:4-5, Matt 1:20, Acts 2:1-4 (Roe v. Wade) (19.) The body (the church) has been in gestation for 2,000 years up until now (Isa 53:11 amal/trouble, Rev 7:14 thlipsis/trouble), Luke 22:39-46, (Acts 2:24 ódin/agony of death/childbirth), Rom 6:1-5, Rom 8:22-23, 2 Cor 5:1-5, Phil 3:20-21 (20.) Each time a person gets saved, they get put into the body of Christ John 3:16, John 5:24, John 6:35-40, John 10:25-30, Rom 4:7, Rom 6:1-5, Rom 8:38-39, 1 Cor 15:12-19, Eph 1:13-14, Eph 4:30, Heb 6:18-19, Heb 9:12, Heb 10:11-14, 1 John 5:4-5, 1 John 5:9-14, 2 John 1:2. (21.) The birth of the body into incorruptible seed is next, through rapture event Rom 6:1-5, 1 Cor 9:25, 1 Cor 15:50-54, 1 Thess 4:17, 1 Pet 1:4, 1 Pet 1:23, Rev 12:5 (22.) John uses "teknon" (the church) once in Rev 12:4 and once in Rev 12:5 (23.) The body of Christ is raptured before the dragon devours us, (the moment he was born) Rev 12:4-5 2017 - 2024 Time Line (24.) The first four feasts have already been fulfilled 2,000 years ago (25.) The last three feasts are still future, and the Feast of Trumpets is next on 9/21/17 (26.) The Rev 12:1-5 sign lands two days after the Feast of Trumpets (Feast starts 1290 days in Dan 12:11) (27.) The abomination of desolation then lands on Passover Sabbath on 4/2/21 Dan 9:27, Dan 11:31, Dan 12:11, Matt 24:15 (28.) The second coming of Christ then lands on the Day of Atonement on 9/13/24 Isa 24:23, Isa 37:32, Eze 16:63, Joe 2:32, Oba 1:17, Oba 1:21, Mic 4:7, Zech 14:4 (29.) The 1000 year reign with Christ then begins 75 days later on 11/26/24 (24th day/9th month on Hebrew Calendar) Hagg 2:10, 18, 20 Conclusion (30.) Rapture, the Day of the Lord and the 70th week of Daniel all point to a woman in labor Isa 13:6-8, Isa 26:17-21, Isa 66:7-9, Jer 30:6-7, Jer 49:24, (Micah 5:2-4 / Verse 2 Time of Jesus / Verse 3 Church Age / Verse 4 Millennium), 1 Thess 5:1-3 (31.) The Rev 12:1-5 sign also points to rapture, the Day of the Lord and the 70th week of Daniel (Rev 12:1-5 woman in labor giving birth) (32.) John breaks the rules of Greek grammar, birth before tribulation (rapture before 70th week) Isa 66:7-8, Rev 12:5 (33.) The body of Christ will rule and reign with Christ himself with an iron scepter, as kings and priests Psa 2:9, Dan 7:18, 22, Matt 19:28, Rom 8:17, 1 Cor 6:2-3, Rev 1:5-6, Rev 2:26-27, Rev 3:21, Rev 4:4, Rev 5:10-11, Rev 7:9, Rev 12:5, Rev 20:4-6, Rev 22:5 Side Note: 1 Jubilee = 50 years (1.) From Adam to Noah (Flood) 40 x 50 or 40 Jubilee cycles = 2000 years (Seed) (2.) Abraham to Christ (Cross) 40 x 50 or 40 Jubilee cycles = 2000 years (Young Plant) (3.) Christ to now 40 x 50 or 40 Jubilee cycles = 2000 years (Harvest) (4.) 40 x 3 = 120 Jubilees -- 2000 x 3 = 6000 years -- Gen 6:3 Side Note: Jesus commands the believer to wake up Prov 8:34-36, Matt 24:42-44, Luke 21:34-36, Rom 13:11, 1 Thess 5:1-11, 1 Pet 4:17, Rev 3:1-3 Side Note: The church sitting on thrones, (surrounding God's throne), with authority to judge, as kings and priests Dan 7:18, 22, Matt 19:28, Rom 8:17, 1 Cor 6:2-3, Rev 1:5-6, Rev 2:26-27, Rev 3:21, Rev 4:4, Rev 5:10-11, Rev 7:9, Rev 12:5, Rev 20:4-6, Rev 22:5 Side Note: The twenty-four elders (the church/martyrs) playing harps in heaven Psa 33:2, Rev 5:8, Rev 14:2-3, Rev 15:2 Side Note: The church has many names and is also considered male Isa 66:7-9, Matt 13:38, Luke 20:36, John 12:36, Rom 8:14, Gal 3:26, 1 Thess 5:5, Rev 12:5 Side Note: 9/28/15 Super Blood Moon to 9/23/17 Rev 12:1-2 sign is 726 days, and Strong's 726 is.. http://biblehub.com/greek/726.htm 1 A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman (Israel) clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. 2 She (Israel) was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth. 3 Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon (Satan) with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on its heads. 4 Its tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon (Satan) stood in front of the woman (Israel) who was about to give birth, so that it might devour her child (teknon the church) the moment he was born. 5 She gave birth to a son (huios Jesus Christ himself), a male child, who “will rule all the nations with an iron scepter.” And her child (teknon the church) was snatched up (harpazo) to God and to his throne. Salvation scriptures can be found in John 3:3-7, John 3:16, John 14:6, Acts 4:12, Rom 6:23, Rom 10:9-10. - Heb 13:8 http://www.torahcalendar.com/ https://www.timeanddate.com/date/dateadd.html http://www.unsealed.org/2017/08/conservative-scholars-agree-male-child.html

Even so, parables use figurative language to describe a bigger picture, such as the thief in Matt 24:43.

I don't think it's referencing 12am, but rather night-time.. nux: night, by night Original Word: νύξ, νυκτός, ἡ Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine Transliteration: nux Phonetic Spelling: (noox) Short Definition: the night, night-time Definition: the night, night-time.

I would disagree, the rapture must fulfill the appointed Feast Days? Allusion to Isaiah 66:7-8. The use of the neuter adjective arsen (male) modifying the masculine noun huios (son) and the image of Israel giving birth points careful readers back to Isaiah 66:7–8, where we read in the Septuagint (Greek version of the Old Testament): “Before she travailed, she brought forth; Before her pain came, she gave birth to a boy (arsen). Who has heard such a thing? Who has seen such things? Can a land be born in one day? Can a nation be brought forth all at once? As soon as Zion travailed, she also brought forth her children.” The image is parallel in Revelation, and John explicitly breaks the rules of Greek grammar (modifying the masculine “son” with the neuter “male”) to point us back to this passage in Isaiah 66. The child in both cases is corporate, not individual. http://www.unsealed.org/2017/01/the-revelation-12-sign-compendium.html You see, that's where the conception/birth study is referenced. I'm not referring to Mary, I'm referring to Israel. Israel is our mother in the sense that the church was conceived in her at Pentecost 2000 years ago. Remember, conception always comes before birth, and the birth is the rapture. (1.) Virgo is Israel (our mother) Isa 50:1, Jer 3:8, (Micah 5:2 Ephrathah/an Israelite woman), Gal 4:26, and Jupiter is the body of Christ (the child) Isa 66:7-9, Matt 13:38, Luke 20:36, John 12:36, Rom 8:14-17, Gal 3:26, Col 1:18, 1 Thess 5:5, Rev 12:5 (2.) The church has many names and is also considered male Isa 66:7-9, Matt 13:38, Luke 20:36, John 12:36, Rom 8:14, Gal 3:26, 1 Thess 5:5, Rev 12:5 God Bless.

The rapture and the second coming are 7 years apart shiloh. There ARE signs of the rapture, in Rev 12:5. 1 Thess 4:17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up (harpazo) together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. Rev 12:5 She gave birth to a son (huios Jesus Christ himself), a male child, who “will rule all the nations with an iron scepter.” And her child (teknon the church) was snatched up (harpazo) to God and to his throne.

Gen 1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons (moed), and for days, and years: Lev 23:2 "Speak to the Israelites and say to them: 'These are my appointed festivals (moed), the appointed festivals (moed) of the LORD, which you are to proclaim as sacred assemblies. Rev 12:1-2 A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman (Israel) clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. moed: appointed time, place, or meeting Original Word: מוֹעֵד Part of Speech: Noun Masculine Transliteration: moed Phonetic Spelling: (mo-ade') Short Definition: meeting 1. The Passover (God leads the Jews out of Egypt and slavery) 2. Unleavened Bread (The Death and Burial of Jesus Christ) 3. First Fruits (Resurrection of Jesus Christ) 4. Feast of Weeks/Pentecost (The beginning of the church age, Holy Spirit indwells believers) 5. Feast of Trumpets (The rapture of the church) 6. Day of Atonement (Jesus lands on the Mount of Olives and atones for the sins of Israel at the end of the 7 year tribulation) 7. Feast of Tabernacles (The 1,000 year reign with Christ) Is the woman giving birth this year or another year?

The Head / Body (1.) John uses the words "huios" and "teknon" in Rev 12:5, head and body Col 1:18 (2.) The head (Jesus Christ) was birthed 2,000 years ago when He ascended to heaven Acts 1:1-11 (3.) The body (the church) however was conceived 2,000 years ago at Pentecost, not birthed Acts 2:1-4 (4.) Life begins at conception, not birth Psa 139:13-16, Jer 1:4-5, Matt 1:20, Acts 2:1-4 (Roe v. Wade) (5.) The body (the church) has been in gestation for 2,000 years up until now (Isa 53:11 amal/trouble, Rev 7:14 thlipsis/trouble), Luke 22:39-46, (Acts 2:24 ódin/agony of death/childbirth), Rom 6:1-5, Rom 8:22-23, 2 Cor 5:1-5, Phil 3:20-21 (6.) Each time a person gets saved, they get put into the body of Christ John 3:16, John 5:24, John 6:35-40, John 10:25-30, Rom 4:7, Rom 6:1-5, Rom 8:38-39, 1 Cor 15:12-19, Eph 1:13-14, Eph 4:30, Heb 6:18-19, Heb 9:12, Heb 10:11-14, 1 John 5:4-5, 1 John 5:9-14, 2 John 1:2. (7.) The birth of the body into incorruptible seed is next, through rapture event Rom 6:1-5, 1 Cor 9:25, 1 Cor 15:50-54, 1 Thess 4:17, 1 Pet 1:4, 1 Pet 1:23, Rev 12:5 (8.) John uses "teknon" (the church) once in Rev 12:4 and once in Rev 12:5 (9.) The body of Christ is raptured before the dragon devours us, (the moment he was born) Rev 12:4-5

The Head / Body (1.) John uses the words "huios" and "teknon" in Rev 12:5, head and body Col 1:18 (2.) The head (Jesus Christ) was birthed 2,000 years ago when He ascended to heaven Acts 1:1-11 (3.) The body (the church) however was conceived 2,000 years ago at Pentecost, not birthed Acts 2:1-4 (4.) Life begins at conception, not birth Psa 139:13-16, Jer 1:4-5, Matt 1:20, Acts 2:1-4 (Roe v. Wade) (5.) The body (the church) has been in gestation for 2,000 years up until now (Isa 53:11 amal/trouble, Rev 7:14 thlipsis/trouble), Luke 22:39-46, (Acts 2:24 ódin/agony of death/childbirth), Rom 6:1-5, Rom 8:22-23, 2 Cor 5:1-5, Phil 3:20-21 (6.) Each time a person gets saved, they get put into the body of Christ John 3:16, John 5:24, John 6:35-40, John 10:25-30, Rom 4:7, Rom 6:1-5, Rom 8:38-39, 1 Cor 15:12-19, Eph 1:13-14, Eph 4:30, Heb 6:18-19, Heb 9:12, Heb 10:11-14, 1 John 5:4-5, 1 John 5:9-14, 2 John 1:2. (7.) The birth of the body into incorruptible seed is next, through rapture event Rom 6:1-5, 1 Cor 9:25, 1 Cor 15:50-54, 1 Thess 4:17, 1 Pet 1:4, 1 Pet 1:23, Rev 12:5 (8.) John uses "teknon" (the church) once in Rev 12:4 and once in Rev 12:5 (9.) The body of Christ is raptured before the dragon devours us, (the moment he was born) Rev 12:4-5

God is the one using planets and celestial bodies, not me 414. The Word of God says the lights in the sky are for signs, times, days, years, seasons. God Bless.

Hi 414. This is astronomy, not astrology. Rev 12:1-5 is in the Word of God and takes place in the heavens. The sun, moon, stars, planets, constellations are for signs, times, days, years, seasons Gen 1:14, Job 38:31-32, Psa 19:1-6, Psa 104:19, Psa 136:7, Isa 40:26, Luke 21:25-28. God Bless.

Can you show me why. The sun, moon, stars, planets, constellations are for signs, times, days, years, seasons Gen 1:14, Job 38:31-32, Psa 19:1-6, Psa 104:19, Psa 136:7, Isa 40:26, Luke 21:25-28.

Matt 24:31 is referring to the "great trump" which occurs at the end of the 70th week. Notice the word "loud" in Matt 24:31 is translated "great". The "last trump" in 1 Cor 15:52 and the "great trump" in Matt 24:31 are seven years apart. Also notice the word "gather" is translated "episunagó". This word is not a "harpazo". These are two different words with two different meanings. God Bless.

1947 + 70 = 2017 Hi shiloh357. Why did God reveal a day count to Daniel and John, 1260, 1290, 1335 days. God Bless. Dan 12:4 But you, Daniel, roll up and seal the words of the scroll until the time of the end. Many will go here and there to increase knowledge." 2017 - 2024 Time Line (1.) The first four feasts have already been fulfilled 2,000 years ago (2.) The last three feasts are still future, and the Feast of Trumpets is next on 9/21/17 (3.) The Rev 12:1-5 sign lands two days after the Feast of Trumpets (Feast starts 1290 days in Dan 12:11) (4.) In Dan 12:11, we are the sacrifice taken away that kicks off the 1290 days (Isa 53:11 amal/trouble, Rev 7:14 thlipsis/trouble), Rom 8:17, Rom 12:1, Rom 15:16, 1 Cor 15:31, 2 Cor 1:5, Gal 2:20, Phil 2:17, Phil 3:10, Col 1:24 (5.) The abomination of desolation then lands on Passover Sabbath on 4/2/21 Dan 9:27, Dan 11:31, Dan 12:11, Matt 24:15 (6.) The second coming of Christ then lands on the Day of Atonement on 9/13/24 Isa 24:23, Isa 37:32, Eze 16:63, Joe 2:32, Oba 1:17, Oba 1:21, Mic 4:7, Zech 14:4 (7.) The 1000 year reign with Christ then lands on 11/26/24, 75 days later (24th day/9th month on Hebrew Calendar) Hagg 2:10, 18, 20 The dragon tries to devour the child (the church) the moment he was born, Rev 12:4. I think Jupiter existed the birth canal on 9/9, and we're waiting for the Feast of Trumpets. Exciting times.

1 Thess 4:13-17 Brothers and sisters, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you do not grieve like the rest of mankind, who have no hope. 14For we believe that Jesus died and rose again, and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him. 15According to the Lord’s word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up (harpazo) together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. Rev 12:1-5 A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman (Israel) clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. 2 She (Israel) was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth. 3 Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon (Satan) with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on its heads. 4 Its tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon (Satan) stood in front of the woman (Israel) who was about to give birth, so that it might devour her child (teknon the church) the moment he was born. 5 She gave birth to a son (huios Jesus Christ himself), a male child, who “will rule all the nations with an iron scepter.” And her child (teknon the church) was snatched up (harpazo) to God and to his throne. If nothing happens, we continue to study the Word. Be kind. - Heb 13:8

1The word of the Lord came to me: 2“Son of man, speak to your people and say to them: ‘When I bring the sword against a land, and the people of the land choose one of their men and make him their watchman, 3and he sees the sword coming against the land and blows the trumpet to warn the people, 4then if anyone hears the trumpet but does not heed the warning and the sword comes and takes their life, their blood will be on their own head. 5Since they heard the sound of the trumpet but did not heed the warning, their blood will be on their own head. If they had heeded the warning, they would have saved themselves. 6But if the watchman sees the sword coming and does not blow the trumpet to warn the people and the sword comes and takes someone’s life, that person’s life will be taken because of their sin, but I will hold the watchman accountable for their blood.’ (1.) The Four Blood Moons Picture - http://yowusa.com/space/2014/space-2014-02a/blood-moon2.jpg (2.) 8/21/17 & 4/8/24 Total Solar Eclipse Picture - http://eclipse.siu.edu/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/2017-2024.jpg (3.) Rev 12:1-2 Picture - https://i.ytimg.com/vi/XXxVwpcXV0U/maxresdefault.jpg (4.) Rev 12:1-5 Picture - https://i.ytimg.com/vi/oRCx47PPo4E/hqdefault.jpg (5.) Planet X Picture - Red Dragon | God in a Nutshell project 1 week = 7 years 2017-2024 - Dan 9:27 And he shall make a strong covenant with many for one week, and for half of the week he shall put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall come one who makes desolate, until the decreed end is poured out on the desolator.” History (1.) The four blood moons of 2014-2015 were warning signs pointing to 9/23/17 Joel 2:31 (2.) 9/23/17 is not a warning sign, rather it will be the action 1 Thess 5:3 (3.) 1897, 1917, 1947, 1967, 2017 are all important Israel dates and Jubilee's 1897 + 120 = 2017 Gen 6:3 (4.) Fig Tree Generation - 1947 + 70 years = 2017 Psa 90:10, Matt 24:32-35 (5.) Rev 12:1-5 only occurs once in Stellarium in 7,000 years, on 9/23/17 The Word Rapture (6.) The Feast of Trumpets represents rapture, the appointed time (Gen 1:14 moed/seasons) (Lev 23:2 moed/festivals) (7.) The word harpazo/rapture is a part of the Rev 12:1-5 sign, in Rev 12:5 (8.) The Latin translation for rapture is rapturo, in Greek it's harpazo (9.) In Dan 12:11, we are the sacrifice taken away that kicks off the 1290 days (Isa 53:11 amal/trouble, Rev 7:14 thlipsis/trouble), Rom 8:17, Rom 12:1, Rom 15:16, 1 Cor 15:31, 2 Cor 1:5, Gal 2:20, Phil 2:17, Phil 3:10, Col 1:24 (10.) Rapture before tribulation is here Gen 19:21-22, Lev 12:1-8, Psa 18:2, Psa 27:5, Isa 26:17-21, Isa 66:7-8, John 14:1-4, Luke 21:34-36, 1 Thess 5:9-10, (Jude 1:14, Rev 19:14 saints coming back to earth), Rev 3:10, Rev 4:4, Rev 5:5, Rev 12:1-5 The Heavens (11.) Virgo gives birth to Jupiter in September of 2017 (12.) Virgo is Israel (our mother) Isa 50:1, Jer 3:8, (Micah 5:2 Ephrathah/an Israelite woman), Gal 4:26, and Jupiter is the body of Christ (the child) Isa 66:7-9, Matt 13:38, Luke 20:36, John 12:36, Rom 8:14-17, Gal 3:26, Col 1:18, 1 Thess 5:5, Rev 12:5 (13.) The sun, moon, stars, planets, constellations are for signs, times, days, years, seasons Gen 1:14, Job 38:31-32, Psa 19:1-6, Psa 104:19, Psa 136:7, Isa 40:26, Luke 21:25-28 (14.) The Rev 12:1-5 sign is also connected to Planet X in Rev 12:3-4, (Rev chapter 12&13/red dragon and mark of the beast), Enuma Elish by L. W. King or by Doug Elwell The Head / Body (15.) John uses the words "huios" and "teknon" in Rev 12:5, head and body Col 1:18 (16.) The head (Jesus Christ) was birthed 2,000 years ago when He ascended to heaven Acts 1:1-11 (17.) The body (the church) however was conceived 2,000 years ago at Pentecost, not birthed Acts 2:1-4 (18.) Life begins at conception, not birth Psa 139:13-16, Jer 1:4-5, Matt 1:20, Acts 2:1-4 (Roe v. Wade) (19.) The body (the church) has been in gestation for 2,000 years up until now (Isa 53:11 amal/trouble, Rev 7:14 thlipsis/trouble), Luke 22:39-46, (Acts 2:24 ódin/agony of death/childbirth), Rom 6:1-5, Rom 8:22-23, 2 Cor 5:1-5, Phil 3:20-21 (20.) Each time a person gets saved, they get put into the body of Christ John 3:16, John 5:24, John 6:35-40, John 10:25-30, Rom 4:7, Rom 6:1-5, Rom 8:38-39, 1 Cor 15:12-19, Eph 1:13-14, Eph 4:30, Heb 6:18-19, Heb 9:12, Heb 10:11-14, 1 John 5:4-5, 1 John 5:9-14, 2 John 1:2. (21.) The birth of the body into incorruptible seed is next, through rapture event Rom 6:1-5, 1 Cor 9:25, 1 Cor 15:50-54, 1 Thess 4:17, 1 Pet 1:4, 1 Pet 1:23, Rev 12:5 (22.) John uses "teknon" (the church) once in Rev 12:4 and once in Rev 12:5 (23.) The body of Christ is raptured before the dragon devours us, (the moment he was born) Rev 12:4-5 2017 - 2024 Time Line (24.) The first four feasts have already been fulfilled 2,000 years ago (25.) The last three feasts are still future, and the Feast of Trumpets is next on 9/21/17 (26.) The Rev 12:1-5 sign lands two days after the Feast of Trumpets (Feast starts 1290 days in Dan 12:11) (27.) The abomination of desolation then lands on Passover Sabbath on 4/2/21 Dan 9:27, Dan 11:31, Dan 12:11, Matt 24:15 (28.) The second coming of Christ then lands on the Day of Atonement on 9/13/24 Isa 24:23, Isa 37:32, Eze 16:63, Joe 2:32, Oba 1:17, Oba 1:21, Mic 4:7, Zech 14:4 (29.) The 1000 year reign with Christ then begins 75 days later on 11/26/24 (24th day/9th month on Hebrew Calendar) Hagg 2:10, 18, 20 Conclusion (30.) Rapture, the Day of the Lord and the 70th week of Daniel all point to a woman in labor Isa 13:6-8, Isa 26:17-21, Isa 66:7-9, Jer 30:6-7, Jer 49:24, (Micah 5:2-4 / Verse 2 Time of Jesus / Verse 3 Church Age / Verse 4 Millennium), 1 Thess 5:1-3 (31.) The Rev 12:1-5 sign also points to rapture, the Day of the Lord and the 70th week of Daniel (Rev 12:1-5 woman in labor giving birth) (32.) John breaks the rules of Greek grammar, birth before tribulation (rapture before 70th week) Isa 66:7-8, Rev 12:5 (33.) The body of Christ will rule and reign with Christ himself with an iron scepter, as kings and priests Psa 2:9, Dan 7:18, 22, Matt 19:28, Rom 8:17, 1 Cor 6:2-3, Rev 1:5-6, Rev 2:26-27, Rev 3:21, Rev 4:4, Rev 5:10-11, Rev 7:9, Rev 12:5, Rev 20:4-6, Rev 22:5 Side Note: 1 Jubilee = 50 years (1.) From Adam to Noah (Flood) 40 x 50 or 40 Jubilee cycles = 2000 years (Seed) (2.) Abraham to Christ (Cross) 40 x 50 or 40 Jubilee cycles = 2000 years (Young Plant) (3.) Christ to now 40 x 50 or 40 Jubilee cycles = 2000 years (Harvest) (4.) 40 x 3 = 120 Jubilees -- 2000 x 3 = 6000 years -- Gen 6:3 Side Note: Jesus commands the believer to wake up Prov 8:34-36, Matt 24:42-44, Luke 21:34-36, Rom 13:11, 1 Thess 5:1-11, 1 Pet 4:17, Rev 3:1-3 Side Note: The church sitting on thrones, (surrounding God's throne), with authority to judge, as kings and priests Dan 7:18, 22, Matt 19:28, Rom 8:17, 1 Cor 6:2-3, Rev 1:5-6, Rev 2:26-27, Rev 3:21, Rev 4:4, Rev 5:10-11, Rev 7:9, Rev 12:5, Rev 20:4-6, Rev 22:5 Side Note: The twenty-four elders (the church/martyrs) playing harps in heaven Psa 33:2, Rev 5:8, Rev 14:2-3, Rev 15:2 Side Note: The church has many names and is also considered male Isa 66:7-9, Matt 13:38, Luke 20:36, John 12:36, Rom 8:14, Gal 3:26, 1 Thess 5:5, Rev 12:5 Side Note: 9/28/15 Super Blood Moon to 9/23/17 Rev 12:1-2 sign is 726 days, and Strong's 726 is.. http://biblehub.com/greek/726.htm 1 A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman (Israel) clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. 2 She (Israel) was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth. 3 Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon (Satan) with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on its heads. 4 Its tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon (Satan) stood in front of the woman (Israel) who was about to give birth, so that it might devour her child (teknon the church) the moment he was born. 5 She gave birth to a son (huios Jesus Christ himself), a male child, who “will rule all the nations with an iron scepter.” And her child (teknon the church) was snatched up (harpazo) to God and to his throne. Salvation scriptures can be found in John 3:3-7, John 3:16, John 14:6, Acts 4:12, Rom 6:23, Rom 10:9-10. - Heb 13:8 http://www.torahcalendar.com/ https://www.timeanddate.com/date/dateadd.html http://www.unsealed.org/2017/08/conservative-scholars-agree-male-child.html

Then show me where I'm wrong in my studies. All you're doing is telling me not to study prophecy.