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  1. Heb 13:8

    The timing of the 6th seal

    Or maybe the time of the Gentiles is at the end of the 70th week, Luke 21:24 They will fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations. Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.
  2. Heb 13:8

    The context of 1 Thess 5:1

    Because the entire context of Rev 12 is in reference to prophecy and the 70th week of Daniel, not Martha sitting on her back porch with her child drinking tea. The word "harpazo" in 1 Thess 4:17, Rev 12:5 is in reference to end times application. God bless.
  3. Heb 13:8

    The timing of the 6th seal

    Diaste, Jesus comes like a thief to the world, so how does He come like a thief when nonbelievers can simply countdown to His second coming (1260, 1290, 1335 days)? or even 1260 days from the AofD? Isn't being obtained by robbery the same as coming like a thief? 🙄 harpazó: to seize, catch up, snatch away Original Word: ἁρπάζω Part of Speech: Verb Transliteration: harpazó Phonetic Spelling: (har-pad'-zo) Short Definition: I seize, snatch, obtain by robbery Definition: I seize, snatch, obtain by robbery. 1Th 5:2 for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. 1Th 5:4 But you, brothers and sisters, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief. Rev 3:3 Remember, therefore, what you have received and heard; hold it fast, and repent. But if you do not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what time I will come to you.
  4. Heb 13:8

    The timing of the 6th seal

    No, the timing is in Rev 12:5, and Matt 24:31 is not a harpazo, it's a episunagó which represents the gleanings (trib saints). The main harvest are not the gleanings. These are two different groups of people separated by 7 years. This is where people have a hard time interpreting Rev 12:1-5, is right here. The word for Jesus ascension in Acts 1:9 is "epairó", and the word in 1 Thess 4:17, Rev 12:5 is "harpazo". These words have two different meanings in context, a lifting up in victory vs being snatched away through a rescue. Jesus didn't need to be snatched away because He already defeated the devil. If these passages occurred 2,000 years ago and is only about Jesus then why didn't John use the word "huios" in all three circumstances below. I believe John is describing the child being born as the church (the body of Christ). Even Paul said he felt abnormally born in 1 Cor 15:8 because he hadn't received his resurrected body yet, and as we can see in Rev 2:26-27, Rev 12:5 the church is being mentioned here as ruling with Christ with an iron scepter. Rev 12:1-5 A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. 2She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth. 3Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on its heads. 4Its tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so that it might devour her child (teknon) the moment he was born. 5She gave birth to a son (huios), a male child, who “will rule all the nations with an iron scepter.” And her child (teknon) was snatched up to God and to his throne. God bless.
  5. Heb 13:8

    The context of 1 Thess 5:1

    RM, the word "teknon" is a reference to the church, not Jesus Christ. Who is calling planets stars? Preaching for 90 years has nothing to do with understanding context. 🙄
  6. Heb 13:8

    The timing of the 6th seal

    MID-TRIB Rev 6:12 I watched as he opened the sixth seal. There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth made of goat hair, the whole moon turned blood red, Rev 11:13 At that very hour there was a severe earthquake and a tenth of the city collapsed. Seven thousand people were killed in the earthquake, and the survivors were terrified and gave glory to the God of heaven.
  7. Heb 13:8

    The timing of the 6th seal

    Ok, so you believe the seals are non-chronological I believe the rapture is pre-trib, 1 Thess 4:17, Rev 4-5, Rev 12:5. I don't believe the sixth seal is at rapture, it's rather an event that the middle of the 70th week has begun.
  8. Heb 13:8

    The timing of the 6th seal

    Luk 21:36 Be always on the watch, and pray that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man.”
  9. Heb 13:8

    The timing of the 6th seal

    Consider the word harpazo in 1 Thess 4:17, Rev 12:5. The child is caught up before Satan falls to earth.
  10. Heb 13:8

    The context of 1 Thess 5:1

    🙄 RM, Rachel and Joseph are dead. This has nothing to do with people that existed 2000 years ago. By doing this you are placing a 2000 year gap in between Rev 12:5 and Rev 12:6. That's false. If I remember correctly you are pre-trib, and Rev 12:5 harpazo confirms that belief so why you are fighting this is bizarre. A 2000 year gap is not biblical RM. 4 times, wow. i'm surprised you didn't make it 5 or 6 times, lol. Rev 12:1-5 has only come to pass once on 9/23/17. Everything lining up plus Jupiter in the womb for 42 weeks has only occurred once. I guess poo pooing on astronomy is the thing now. Blessed is the one who hears it and takes it to heart, Rev 1:3 That's right, so he uses the sun, moon and stars which everyone can see instead of people who are dead and buried? 🙄 Rev 4-5 are describing the scene in heaven at rapture. The entire chapter of Rev 12 is describing the 70th week. You sound silly putting a 2000 year gap in between verses. Where is your faith RM? And I suppose you would the deny the blood moon tetrad falling on Jewish Holidays in 2014-15? It's all part of the secret code man, the aliens are here. To much HBO for you. 🙄 Oh I see, so if God uses the stars to guide us closer to the rapture and the 70th week that's astrology? Really? Are you born again RM, are you covered under the blood of Christ? God bless.
  11. Heb 13:8

    The context of 1 Thess 5:1

    Hello iam. I have a different interpretation if you will. Since John used the words "huios" and "teknon" to describe the child, the child therefore can only be the body of Christ being born through rapture, via John is connecting the head with the body Col 1:18. The word "teknon" is never used to describe Jesus Christ alone, it's always used in the context of either the body of Christ or a believer himself. Rev 12:1-5 is not using singular entities, rather it's describing corporate entities in the end times. Rev 12:6-17 is an entire description of the 70th week of Daniel. 1. Israel - The Woman 2. The Body of Christ - The Child 3. The Anti-Christ System - The Dragon (Rev 13) God Bless.
  12. Heb 13:8

    The context of 1 Thess 5:1

    Well, we should care about the constellations of the south, being that Jupiter was in the womb of Virgo (which is a constellation in the south) for 42 weeks with the moon at her feet and a crown of 12 stars at her head. Rev 12 has nothing to do with Gen 37. Rev 12:6-17 is a description of the future 70th week, and the sign on 9/23/17 proves it. The twelve stars that were in constellation Leo represent either the twelve tribes of Israel or the twelve apostles. And God doesn't need your permission to use His creation the way He wants in order to fulfill prophecy. Job 38:32 Can you bring forth the constellations in their seasons or lead out the Bear with its cubs? says the one who believes the book of revelation takes place in Genesis? i guess some won't take it to heart. 🙄 Rev 1:1-3 The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John, 2who testifies to everything he saw—that is, the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ. 3Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it, because the time is near. And I suppose the scriptures below are metaphors also? Wake up! 🙄 Gen 1:14 And God said, "Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, Mat 16:3 And in the morning, It will be foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowring. O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times? Luk 21:11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven. Luke 21:25 "There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea.
  13. Heb 13:8

    The context of 1 Thess 5:1

    Right, enough wisdom to know that Job is the Word of God?
  14. Heb 13:8

    The context of 1 Thess 5:1

    Well look at that, Virgo is a constellation in the southern hemisphere. 🙄 Job 9:9 He is the Maker of the Bear and Orion, the Pleiades and the constellations of the south. Job 38:32 Can you bring forth the constellations in their seasons or lead out the Bear with its cubs? mazzaroth: perhaps a constellation Original Word: מַזָּרוֹת Part of Speech: Noun Feminine Transliteration: mazzaroth Phonetic Spelling: (maz-zaw-raw') Short Definition: constellation https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=GxBMW9uRNOGf_Qa7yqXwBw&q=what+are+the+constellations+in+the+southern+hemisphere&oq=what+are+the+constellations+of+the+south&gs_l=psy-ab.3.0.0i22i30k1.757.7416.0.8967.34.31.0.0.0.0.139.2800.20j9.29.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..5.29.2794.0..0j35i39k1j0i131k1j0i131i20i264k1j0i20i264k1.0.2S7HqDl6tK0 It's time to wake up RM.
  15. Heb 13:8

    The timing of the 6th seal

    Matt 24:29 is describing the end of the 70th week at His second coming. So if the 6th seal is also at the end of the 70th week (sun, moon, stars) as some might believe, the 7th seal has to be prior to that which makes the seals non-chronological? Or maybe just maybe, Joel 2:31 and Rev 6:12 are on a separate time line than Matt 24:29, one at the AofD and the other at His second coming. Could it be that "stars" in the sixth seal are fallen angels at the AofD, Rev 12:4, 9? Notice in Matt 24:29 that there is no mention of a blood moon... Joel 2:31 The sun will be turned to darkness and the moon to blood before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD. Matt 24:29 "Immediately after the distress of those days "'the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.' Rev 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=TdhCW8TZGOiI_QaT04HAAw&q=does+the+moon+give+off+light+during+blood+moons&oq=does+the+moon+give+off+light+during+blood+moons&gs_l=psy-ab.3...1137.14238.0.14424.48.47.0.0.0.0.127.3999.36j11.47.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..1.44.3702.0..0j35i39k1j0i131k1j0i131i20i264k1j0i20i264k1j0i3k1j0i22i30k1j33i160k1j33i22i29i30k1j33i21k1.0.720Kj6SKJFI - Heb
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