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  1. Heb 13:8

    September 23, 2017

    We don't get away with it iam, we are disciplined and sanctified through the power of the cross when we sin. Is it clicking yet?
  2. Heb 13:8

    September 23, 2017

    Yes they are. You still don't get it. It hasn't "clicked" yet for you. People send themselves to hell by unbelief in the death, burial and resurrection, and you wonder why they call it easy believism? It's not so easy to believe is it? It's the power of God that keeps us saved, not anything we do. Pride keeps the focus on us, humility keeps the focus on God. 1 Cor 1:18 For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
  3. Heb 13:8

    September 23, 2017

    iam, yes you are talking about entering through works if you're adding hell to your doctrine. what you're saying is Jesus + forgiving others = keeping your salvation secure. If you don't forgive Tuesday and you die Thursday you're going to hell. That's false. In reality, Jesus paid the sin penalty for past, present, future sins, including not forgiving on Tuesday. 🙄 It's a silly doctrine because you pick out certain sins that qualify for loss of salvation like unforgiveness. What about the 100 other sins you commit in your thoughts and actions every day. Are those included too? You would have to repent every minute of every day. You're right, you can't CON God. God knows who are truly born again and who are the religious. Jesus + 0 = salvation. God bless.
  4. Heb 13:8

    September 23, 2017

    The world is trying to save themselves by entering through the wrong doors and their works. Somebody should tell them that there's only one door to heaven and that is through Jesus Christ himself. He IS the gate to salvation and eternal life, John 10. What is Jesus going to say to those trying to enter the kingdom through their works? Matt 7:22-23 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. God bless
  5. Heb 13:8

    September 23, 2017

    What do you think discipline and sanctification is for, are you denying the power of God in the believer? Heb 12:4-13 James 2 has nothing to do with losing salvation. If you read closer, the topic is Godly righteousness or lack thereof. Why are you so focused on your sin. Believers are no longer condemned by their sin. There's a higher calling for us now, and that's to preach what Jesus did on the cross for us, not what we can do for ourselves. Preach the Glory of God, not the glory of man. Heb 6:4-6 and Heb 10:26-27 are actually a cross reference for the crucifixion of Christ and is using metaphorical language to describe the maturity of believers in Christ. Not many understand that Heb 6 thought process actually begins at Heb 5:11. Heb 5:14 But solid food is for the (mature), who by constant use have trained themselves to distinguish good from evil. Heb 6:1 Therefore let us move beyond the elementary teachings about Christ and be taken forward to (maturity), not laying again the foundation of repentance from acts that lead to death, and of faith in God, This has nothing to do with losing salvation, less one believes God throws believers into hell for lack of maturity, which is on the borderline of insanity. Non-osas says to repent of your sin while OSAS says to believe in the finished work of the cross and fully surrender to Jesus Christ. How can you fully surrender when you're still condemned through sin. God bless.
  6. Heb 13:8

    September 23, 2017

    That is why true believers in Christ are covered under the blood. Jesus Christ is the only one who was perfect. It is a very dangerous place to believe in non-osas or works salvation. Your filthy religious works will not save you, neither will daily repentance. Belief in the death burial and resurrection is the only requirement, Jhn 3:3, Jhn 3:16, Rom 10:9. Believers follow the law not to save themselves but out of thankfulness of what Jesus Christ already accomplished for us on the cross. God bless.
  7. Heb 13:8

    September 23, 2017

    It is if you add loss of salvation. Quenching the spirit is not loss of salvation, it's simply quenching the spirit.
  8. Heb 13:8

    September 23, 2017

    Many people are missing the mark, they're all focused on legalism rather than the finished work of the cross. They never come to faith, but they have their works to show. Matt 7:22-23.
  9. Heb 13:8

    September 23, 2017

    It's referring to quenching the spirit, not losing salvation.
  10. Heb 13:8

    September 23, 2017

    Right, today the sin is unforgiveness. Tomorrow it'll be the 10 commandments. Next week, it'll be smoking a cigarette or jaywalking. Jhn 3:16-18 16For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. Jhn 10:25-30 Jesus answered, “I did tell you, but you do not believe. The works I do in my Father’s name testify about me, 26but you do not believe because you are not my sheep. 27My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. 28I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all ; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. 30I and the Father are one.” Eph 1:13-14 And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, 14who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession—to the praise of his glory. Rom 8:35-38-39 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword? 38For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord. 1 Jhn 5:9-14 We accept human testimony, but God’s testimony is greater because it is the testimony of God, which he has given about his Son. 10Whoever believes in the Son of God accepts this testimony. Whoever does not believe God has made him out to be a liar, because they have not believed the testimony God has given about his Son. 11And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life. 13I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life. 14This is the confidence we have in approaching God: that if we ask anything according to his will, he hears us. A - Admit you're a sinner B - Believe in your heart that God raised Jesus from the dead C - Confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord God isn't looking for a Pharisee iam, He's looking for a relationship. Believe the Gospel and God's testimony, if not mine. God bless.
  11. Heb 13:8

    September 23, 2017

    Well, thankfully our salvation isn't dependent on our imagination. The majority of people confess with their mouth, but their hearts are far from Him, Rom 10:9.
  12. Heb 13:8

    September 23, 2017

    Right, God isn't a rapist type a thing? Eternal security is based on belief in the death burial resurrection, and sadly many do not have it because they prefer religion. God bless.
  13. Heb 13:8

    September 23, 2017

    Iam, all the seals were already opened when John wrote Rev 6. The events in the seals however have not come to pass yet.
  14. Heb 13:8

    September 23, 2017

    Timing is everything, if your timing is off then so is your wording.
  15. Heb 13:8

    September 23, 2017

    No, your timing is off. The opening of the seals begins the 70th week. The great trib doesn't begin until the middle of the 70th week. Also, the day of the Lord spans from the first seal all the way to the end of the 1000 yr reign. God bless.
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