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Do you think that those Arab Countries are becoming a bit offended with seeing things such as these with their eyes which they never really did see in their past?  

https://www.google.com/search?q=lgbt+parade+pics&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjIq5_HtfXSAhWLyoMKHelSDtsQsAQIGw&biw=1360&bih=605

Are those Arab Countries being 'strong-armed' by US civil Liberties Unions and US Laws of such? 

The LGBTQ community is backed and defended by the ACLU which is an US organization.  

ACLU:  American Civil Liberties Union

https://www.aclu.org/

Here are the travel requirements to go to those 'banned' countries from their point of laws:

On ‎2‎/‎18‎/‎2017 at 6:18 PM, Marilyn C said:

I became aware of what I believe is a hidden lie, in the late `80`s. I have since watched it grow until it now has become a major doctrine in most organised churches.

I believe the Hidden Lie is a perversion of – God`s Plan for your life.

The `fall out` from this grave error is already apparent here on Worthy. People are disillusioned with God because he hasn`t fulfilled their dreams, or others have been asking for money to help fulfil this or that `God`s plan for their life.`

I`ll present what I believe is the Truth & the Lie, & then see what you have to say.

 

My thoughts on the truth of God`s Plan for our lives.

God`s plan for every believe is to make them like Christ.

`And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose. For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the first born among many brethren.` (Rom. 8: 28 & 29)

 

How to become like Christ.

1. Focus on Christ. Learning of Him & His ways. (Heb. 12: 1 & 2,  Eph. 4: 15 & 16)

2. Learning to recognise the Holy Spirit`s promptings. To work with Him to change thoughts & attitudes. (Gal. 5: 16 – 26)

3. Develop a content, humble & thankful heart. (Phil. 2: 3 & 4)

Giftings & abilities, I believe are for serving others. (Eph. 4: 16)

 

My thoughts on the hidden lie of God`s Plan for our lives.

It is taught that God has an (earthly) destiny for each of us, `dream your dream`,

- here are 5 steps to fulfil your destiny.

-here are 7 steps to overcome obstacles to your God given destiny.

-here are 4 reasons the enemy is stopping you fulfilling your destiny, etc, etc.

A lifetime of sermons, as people are always chasing the elusive carrot of `destiny,` always expecting God to give them, make them, successful, important, etc.

 

How to fulfil your destiny. (lie)

1. Focus on self. Know who YOU are in Christ.

2. Learn the steps & obstacles regarding your destiny.

3. Don`t stop till you get your destiny

To deceive people (& probably deceived themselves) speakers use certain scriptures out of context to back up this grave error.

 

Have you heard sermons on this? What are your thoughts?

Marilyn.

Nice.  It would seem as the way you presented.  And after all, after attending so many Weekend Church Services and seeing that God would surely see your desire to receive His Plan for your life, that He would have given it to you.  Even in the Book of Jeremiah it reads that God knows the thoughts He has towards us, thoughts of good and not for evil.  The KJV uses the word 'Thoughs' and the NIV uses the word 'Plans', I think.  But still..  God's plan for our lives should be manifested.  Even if God's Thoughts toward me is for good and not for evil, then why might I not have received that 'good' from Him yet?  Well, here is the step I take.  Since God sees that I am sincere, and since I feel as if I am ready to receive His 'good', the question and the request for His Good needs to be made.  God might be willing to give it to us, but maybe I haven't yet asked.  Maybe I've expected and not asked. 

On ‎2‎/‎14‎/‎2017 at 3:32 PM, Jewels7 said:

At Pentecost? With the appearance of the Holy Spirit of God? When Jesus washed their feet? During the last supper? 

I don't think I've ever seen this discussed before. I look forward to your thoughts.  

Several ideas:  #1- the stories of how the Disciples were martyred in their later years are not recorded in The Holy Bible, so we cannot be too certain that they were truly martyred.  #2- We see the Disciples 'saved' when the guards came into the Garden of Gethesemene with their swords and staves.  All the disciples fled and so they were taken out of harm's way. 

On ‎10‎/‎1‎/‎2016 at 2:57 AM, Konstantin said:

Besides the feasts of the Lord there are also the feasts that were feasted according to the tradition of the elders in Judea.

For example, “the feast of the dedication” (John. 10:22); there is no such feast in the Law of Moses. The Lord said to the Jews: “Did not Moses giue you the Law, and yet none of you keepeth the Law? “ (John.7:19) “For had ye beleeued Moses, ye would haue beleeued me: for he wrote of me”. (John. 5:46)

The “Iewes Passeouer”(John.11:55) -- “þe feast of vnleuened bread”(Luke22:1)(15 Nisan) -- “a feast of the Iewes” (John.6:4), “the feast of the dedication” (John 10: 22) and “Easter” (Acts.12:4) are no “the feasts of the Lord” (Lev.23:37)

The feasts of the Lord testify about Jesus Christ. The feasts which were "born" apocryphal books, testify about “another Iesus” (2Kor.11:4) and “another Gospel”;

“your appointed Feasts my soule hateth” (Is.1:14)

'did Moses give you the Law'... No God gave the Law

On ‎2‎/‎26‎/‎2017 at 8:30 PM, WorthyNewsBot said:

(Worthy News) - Hundreds of Christians in Egypt's North Sinai province fled the area Friday after the Islamic State terror group killed seven Christians in just three weeks.

Reuters says one of its reporters saw at least 25 families from the Evangelical Church in Sinai in the city of Ismailia on the Suez Canal.

Church officials were quoted as saying that 100 of the roughly 160 families in North Sinai were fleeing. More than 200 students studying in el-Arish, the province's capital, have also left. [ Source ]

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Isis:  Isis  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isis

 "is a goddess from the polytheistic pantheon of Egypt. She was first worshiped in ancient Egyptian religion, and later her worship spread throughout the Roman Empire and the greater Greco-Roman world. Isis is still widely worshiped by many pagans today in diverse religious contexts; including a number of distinct pagan religions, the modern Goddess movement, and interfaith organizations such as the Fellowship of Isis."

i am not saying that the mythological isis is a real goddess or even a demon with such supernatural powers that she is taking over the world.. I am not saying that.  However many persons still offer worship and reverence towards the no-gods of many places, both current and old.  And when individual persons are offering their worship to the no-gods, many wicked things can begin happening.  i am not sure if the 'devils' in the spiritual realm can get a firmer grip on those persons or if demons can come and possess their bodies, but many such persons, those who offer worship to such no-gods, are the ones who live 'wild' lifestyles when compared to ordinary everyday people.  And as ISIS is named after or in the exact same way as the mythological goddess' name is spelt, it makes no surprise if they actually partake in rituals and stuff as they might have done in the olden egyptian days.  False worship to false gods will lead to spiritual failure.  And spiritual failure does not always result in lack of good things, it can lead to excessiveness in bad things.  In today's time, people are measured with what they accomplish.  They are 'judged' by their fruits.  A person who is daily causing trouble will be known as a person who is daily causing trouble.  Even if that person is at a Legislative meeting, he will be known as the one who is daily causing trouble.  The entire day does not only consist of a few hours.  It is a 24 hour process.  And if in the 16 hours or so, he is causing nothing but trouble but in 1 or 2 hours, he/she is nice and quiet and polite, the 16 hours of him/her causing trouble will be seen as his/her truer character and he/she will be seen as being extra diligent in not causing trouble when he/she is within those 1 or 2 hours of nice and quiet and polite.  That is how it is now days.  To not take the majority over the minority is overlooking the more weightier matters of that person's life for the smaller matters of that person's life..  It is as swallowing a camel but straining at a gnat.  Matthew 23:24 "Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel."

Besides, Christians really should try to stay away from others who worship and suggest and urge people to go and serve and follow after strange gods. 
 

Conservative Christians do not carry machine guns nor do they cause 'crime' against the Laws of the Land on which they are a citizen. 

On ‎10‎/‎1‎/‎2016 at 2:57 AM, Konstantin said:

Besides the feasts of the Lord there are also the feasts that were feasted according to the tradition of the elders in Judea.

For example, “the feast of the dedication” (John. 10:22); there is no such feast in the Law of Moses. The Lord said to the Jews: “Did not Moses giue you the Law, and yet none of you keepeth the Law? “ (John.7:19) “For had ye beleeued Moses, ye would haue beleeued me: for he wrote of me”. (John. 5:46)

The “Iewes Passeouer”(John.11:55) -- “þe feast of vnleuened bread”(Luke22:1)(15 Nisan) -- “a feast of the Iewes” (John.6:4), “the feast of the dedication” (John 10: 22) and “Easter” (Acts.12:4) are no “the feasts of the Lord” (Lev.23:37)

The feasts of the Lord testify about Jesus Christ. The feasts which were "born" apocryphal books, testify about “another Iesus” (2Kor.11:4) and “another Gospel”;

“your appointed Feasts my soule hateth” (Is.1:14)

Isaiah 1:10-14

On ‎12‎/‎5‎/‎2016 at 9:44 AM, HAZARD said:

God considered Abarham a personal friend.

Isa 41:8, But thou, Israel, art my servant, Jacob whom I have chosen, the seed of Abraham my friend.

God spoke to Moses face to face, as a man speaks to his friend.

Exodus 33:11, And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend. And he turned again into the camp: but his servant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, departed not out of the tabernacle.

Jesus called Judas His friend.

Psa. 41:9, Yea, mine7 own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted8 up his heel against me.

Christ gave Judas all the chances he needed before betraying Him.  Strange how Christ would have chosen someone who He knew would not have a change of heart towards betrayal.  If Judas did have a change of heart, how would have Christ have been handed over?

On ‎9‎/‎19‎/‎2016 at 4:42 AM, Saved.One.by.Grace said:

 

This is a passage of scripture I've been interested in since I first became a born-again believer.  I stumbled on the website linked below while searching about something else.  The questions at the end of the topic answered by the author John Tors with the signature "Saved.by.Grace" are mine.  I found John Tors' article and website most interesting, although he hasn't convinced me that the Nephilim were not the result of a fallen angelic attempt at contaminating the bloodline of the future Messiah.

There are four sections of analysis.  The first section linked below can be used to link to the other three sections.

Truth in My Days: Genesis 6:1-4 Discussion

I believe a proper understanding of Scripture is essential to knowing God's will and purpose.  We must understand the Bible in context, and not make it conform to our preconceived ideas.

Here might be the Nephilim people refer to: 

Son(s) : 1121. ben  afflicted (1), afflicted* (1), age (7), aliens* (2), Ammonites* (7), anointed* (1), arrow (1), arrows (1), Assyrians* (3), baby (1), Babylonians* (3), beasts (1), being* (1), Ben-hinnom* (7), bough (2), breed (1), brothers* (1), builders..................................

-of-

God:   430. elohim rulers, judges, either as divine representatives at sacred places or as reflecting divine majesty and power:

The afflicted aged men of the rulers/judges....  Genesis 6:2 "...that the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves, whomever they chose.:

http://biblehub.com/nasec/hebrew/1121.htm

http://biblehub.com/bdb/430.htm

daughters of  --- 'MEN'  :  120 :  adam :  another, hypocrite, common sort, low, man mean, of low degree, person

http://biblehub.com/strongs/hebrew/120.htm

Man only became available for marriage AFTER Adam was driven from the Garden of Eden and only after mankind become populated.

'Sons' could also refer to people of other surrounding territories who came in and took the women for themselves to wife.

It's the same story when ever a new people find and enter into new lands.. There are often times: rape and pillaging... and often times a new mix of ethnicities in the children..

And now both you and I see how a little Truth dispells so much lies.   The 'Sons of God' could be aged men who were kicked out of their territories, found their way into the lands of the daughters of another people and took them as wives... perhaps even by force.  We can see that happening even in our modern day with the so called 'Migrants' and Illegal immigrants. 

On ‎7‎/‎6‎/‎2016 at 11:24 AM, ZacharyB said:

 

Throughout the Bible, God views sin as indicative of rebellion, disobedience, and unbelief.

Those born-again have been given a new nature by which they are no longer slaves of sin!

And they have been given the Holy Spirit, who has come to help them overcome their sins!

Compared to the OT, God’s born-again people have NO excuse for failure to be overcomers!

 

1 Corinthians 6:8-10, TLB

“But, instead, you yourselves are the ones who do wrong, cheating others, even your own brothers. Don’t you know that those doing such things have no share in the Kingdom of God? Don’t fool yourselves. Those who live immoral lives, who are idol worshipers, adulterers or homosexuals — will have no share in his Kingdom. Neither will thieves or greedy people, drunkards, slanderers, or robbers.”

• No habitual sinner will have any part in the Kingdom of God.

 

Galatians 5:18-24, TLB

“When you are guided by the Holy Spirit, you need no longer force yourself to obey Jewish laws. But when you follow your own wrong inclinations, your lives will produce these evil results: impure thoughts, eagerness for lustful pleasure, idolatry, spiritism, hatred and fighting, jealousy and anger, constant effort to get the best for yourself … and there will be wrong doctrine, envy, murder, drunkenness, wild parties, and all that sort of thing. Let me tell you again, as I have before, that anyone living that sort of life will not inherit the Kingdom of God. … Those who belong to Christ have nailed their natural evil desires to his cross and crucified them there.”

• No one who lives/walks in the flesh will inherit the Kingdom of God.

 

Ephesians 5:3-7, TLB

“Let there be no sex sin, impurity or greed among you. Let no one be able to accuse you of any such things. Dirty stories, foul talk, and coarse jokes — these are not for you. Instead, remind each other of God’s goodness, and be thankful. You can be sure of this: the Kingdom of Christ and of God will never belong to anyone who is impure or greedy, for a greedy person is really

an idol worshiper — he loves and worships the good things of this life more than God. Don’t be fooled by those who try to excuse these sins, for the terrible wrath of God is upon all those who do them. Don’t even associate with such people.”

• No Kingdom of God for them, and are those receiving God’s wrath going to heaven?

 

Colossians 3:5-8, TLB

“Away then with sinful, earthly things; deaden the evil desires lurking within you; have nothing to do with sexual sin, impurity, lust, and shameful desires; don’t worship the good things of life, for that is idolatry. God’s terrible anger is upon those who do such things. You used to do them when your life was still part of this world; but now is the time to cast off and throw away all these rotten garments of anger, hatred, cursing, and dirty language.”

3:6, NKJV – “Because of these things the wrath of God is coming upon the sons of disobedience”

• Will anyone who receives God’s terrible anger and wrath be going to heaven?

 

Revelation 21:7-8, TLB

“Everyone who conquers (is victorious, overcomes) will inherit all these blessings, and I will be his God and he will be my son. But cowards who turn back from following me, and those who are unfaithful to me, and the corrupt, and murderers, and the immoral, and those conversing with demons, and idol worshipers and all liars — their doom is in the Lake that burns with fire and sulphur. This is the Second Death.”

• 8 examples of habitual sinners who will be thrown into the Lake of Fire.

 

Revelation 22:14-15, TLB

“Blessed forever are all who are washing their robes, to have the right to enter in through the gates of the city (the New Jerusalem) and to eat the fruit from the Tree of Life. Outside the city are those who have strayed away from God, and the sorcerers and the immoral and murderers and idolaters, and all who love to lie, and do so.”

22:14-15, NKJV – “Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves

and practices a lie.”

• 6 examples of habitual sinners who will not be allowed to enter the city of the New Jerusalem.

Also we have to keep in mind that once born again, the sins do not disappear overnight.  having them disappear as such could be very dangerous since 7 more evil spirits might be able to enter in.  It isn't so much an overnight thing and even after becoming born again by water and Spirit, we will still undoubtedly sin from time to time.  We slowly leave our old life of sin, being renewed daily, and heading towards Sanctification since we have already been consecrated.  Christ and being a follower is not about 'not sinning', it's about walking towards Sanctification, per se.  All this talk about 'sin' and 'sin' and 'sin' is not edifying for any Christian.  We need to be edifying and helping each other grow in the knowledge and fullness of Christ Jesus.  We shouldn't be bringing each other down by 'topics' of -sin,sin, sin- all day and all night.  We need to also move onward and upward in Life and not remain stagnant. We are walking towards sanctification while doing our daily things on earth and still helping one another out by 'lifting them upward' to better and more noble things in God.  We don't want to remain low with each other, we want to get onto the better things in God's World and in God's Life. As far as the notion that this world belongs to 'the god of this world' does not mean that 'the god of this world' is really 'god of this world'.  It just means that 'the god of this world' and the world  with its' lies and murders and cheatings and rapings, etc' have kept us in blindness to the Truth that this world is evil and adulterous.  If a person can't even admit to the the fact that innocent lives are murdered and hurt every day and can't even admit that we live in evil and adulterous times, then we definitely are not seeing anything, we are blinded.  And we would be as children of the 'god of this world'.

On ‎8‎/‎1‎/‎2016 at 7:56 PM, BlueMinou said:

Jesus said "If any one takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book".

Jesus also said "But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the polluted, as for murderers, fornicators, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their lot shall be in the lake that burns with fire and sulphur, which is the second death."

And elsewhere, Jesus says, "whoever denies me before men, I also will deny before my Father who is in heaven."

Again, Paul says , "we will also reign with him; if we deny him, he also will deny us."
 

Osas supporters. Thoughts with regards to this?

Being 'saved' is being freed out of dangerous ways such as the wolves who seek to not spare. Acts 20:29 " For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock."

Salvation is being able to walk through that valley of the shadow of death and not be 'killed, stolen, destroyed.'

On ‎1‎/‎6‎/‎2017 at 6:06 AM, ZacharyB said:

All Scriptures below are from the NKJV …

 

Mark 8:34-37

“Whoever desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow Me. 

For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake and

the gospel’s (sake) will save it. For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world,

and loses his own soul? (**) Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul?”

 

(**) “and is himself destroyed or lost” – see Luke 9:25 below

“he who hates his life in this world will keep it for eternal life” – see John 12:25 below

 

“There is only one kind of true Christian; that is, a disciple … “You must deny yourself.” That means

that to follow Christ a person must give up his own desires and live only according to Christ’s desire.

We must deny our own pleasure, our own advantage, our own comfort … after we become Christians,

we must live completely for God … we must be ready to suffer and die for Him. Suffering and persecution

will come to all who follow Christ (John 15:19, 2 Timothy 3:12). There can be no crown without the cross.

… Whoever denies Christ in order to save his life (his life in this world, his pleasures, his pride, his honor

and reputation, his possessions, his physical life) will lose his life (his true life, spiritual life, eternal life).

But, whoever loses his life for Christ (that is, his life in this world, his pride, his honor, his possessions,

his physical life itself) will save his life; he will obtain true spiritual life, eternal life. To lose one’s life

for Christ and the Gospel means to deny one’s self and take up (one’s) cross and follow Jesus.”

… The Applied New Testament Commentary – Thomas Hale, 1996, ChariotVictor Publishing

(Dr. Hale is a Spirit-filled believer who served as a medical missionary with Interserve in Nepal.)

 

Matthew 10:38-39

“And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me. 

He who finds his life will lose it, and he who loses his life for My sake will find it.”

 

Matthew 16:24-26

“If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow Me.

For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it. 

For what profit is it to a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul?

Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul?”

 

Luke 9:23-25

“If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross DAILY, and follow Me. 

For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will save it. 

For what profit is it to a man if he gains the whole world, and is himself destroyed or lost?”

 

Luke 14:26-27,33

“If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children,

brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple. 

And whoever does not bear his cross and come after Me cannot be My disciple. 

… whoever of you does not forsake all that he has cannot be My disciple.”

 

John 12:25-26

“He who loves his life will lose it, and he who hates his life in this world will keep it for eternal life. 

If anyone serves Me, let him follow Me; and where I am, there My servant will be also.

If anyone serves Me, him My Father will honor.”

 

“But we all must ‘die’ to ourselves. Our old sinful self must die, otherwise we shall not be able to bear

fruit for Christ (Mark 8:34-35, Romans 6:2-6, Galatians 5:24) … Jesus didn’t mean we must actually

‘hate’ ourselves. Rather He was saying that our love for Him must be so great that, in comparison,

our love for ourselves will seem like hate (Luke 14:26). Indeed, we cannot love our old sinful self

and Christ at the same time (Matthew 6:24).”

… The Applied New Testament Commentary – Thomas Hale, 1996, ChariotVictor Publishing

 

The cross was the Roman method of carrying out the death sentence.

The prisoner was made to carry his own cross to the place of execution.

A Christian is called to carry his cross daily while dying to self – to receive eternal life

(reference: the NT).

It's much easier just to walk alongside Him instead of walking alone carrying a cross you might not know how to properly carry...  I walk with Christ; not a cross which Christ died on. And of course, just as Jesus never sipped on wine or ate any meat or attended any festivities, so we also do... hence we deny ourselves for Him.   Besides, when we are out in the boon dogs with noone around us, we are still denying ourselves alone...

On ‎1‎/‎31‎/‎2017 at 4:15 AM, ZacharyB said:

It’s all about free-will choices …

to believe God, to believe His warnings, and to obey Him … or not.

 

Just like it all started in the Garden of Eden and continued through the ages.

 

Adam and Eve were given a fabulous life in the Garden.

Their lives were filled with great delight and promise for all of eternity.

Their part was just simply to obey God.

Their love and appreciation for God and their obedience were tested.

Satan, the tempter, was the medium for this.

He said don’t believe God and obey Him for “You will not surely die.”

He deceived them into choosing to follow their wishes over God’s wishes.

The result of their sin was death … physical and spiritual.

 

Born-again believers are given God’s free gift of grace.

Their lives are filled with great delight and promise for all of eternity.

Ah, you say, and they can do whatever they please!

But, no … their part is simply to obey God.

Their love and appreciation for God and their obedience will be tested.

Satan, the tempter, is the medium for this.

He says don’t believe God and obey Him for “You will not surely die.”

He deceives many into choosing to follow their wishes over God’s wishes.

The result of their sin is death … physical and spiritual.

 

It’s Adam and Eve all over again every day for us!

It’s all about free-will choices to believe and obey God, or not.

 

“Blessed is the man who endures temptation; for when he has been approved,

he will receive the crown of life which the Lord has promised to those who love Him. 

… But each one is tempted when he is drawn away by his own desires and enticed. 

Then, when desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown,

brings forth death. Do not be deceived, my beloved brethren.” (James 1:12-16)

 

Many Christians today like to insist that this “death” is merely physical.

So, they are saying that Jesus is going around killing believers who fail the James test.

 

Notice that those who love Jesus endure the temptation to sin, and are thus “approved”.

(Jesus says 4 times in John 14 that those who love Him will obey His commandments.)

And those who fail to overcome the temptation to sin are faced with eternal death.

 

“I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God,

that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, 

which is your reasonable service.” (Romans 12:1)

 

“you are that one’s slaves whom you obey,

whether (slaves) of sin leading to death,

or (slaves) of obedience leading to righteousness …

so now present your members as slaves of righteousness for holiness.” (Romans 6:16-19)

Have you ever noticed anything about The Garden of Eden and the creation of man?  How have you come to understand them in relation to one another?

Do you believe that God created Adam and Eve in the Garden?  Do you believe that the Garden was already there when God created Adam?  Genesis 2:7-8  "7And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

⁸ And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed." 

 God created man then God planted a garden eastward in Eden.   And then God put the man in the Garden. 

Then God creates the 'woman'..    Genesis 2:21 "And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;"   -after God creates another [set] of animals ? Genesis 2:19  " And out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof."

On ‎2‎/‎7‎/‎2017 at 5:03 AM, ZacharyB said:

 

“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord’, shall enter the kingdom of heaven,

but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day,

‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name,

and done many wonders in Your name?’ And then I will declare to them,

‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

… But everyone who hears these sayings of Mine, and does not do them,

will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand: 

and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and

beat on that house; and it fell. And great was its fall.” (Matthew 7:21-27, NKJV)

 

• I never knew you who practice lawlessness, break God’s laws, act wickedly

Matthew 7:23, “knew” >> to know, “ginosko”, Strong’s #1097.

From “Vine’s Expository Dictionary of Biblical Words” …

“to know, ‘ginosko’, Strong’s #1097: “here the ‘knowing’ suggests approval and

bears the meaning ‘to be approved’ in 2 Tim 2:19; cf. John 10:14, John 10:27”

“The Lord knows (approves of) those who are His” (2 Timothy 2:19)

“I know (approve of) My sheep, and am known by My own.” (John 10:14)

“My sheep hear My voice, and I know (approve of) them, and they follow Me.

And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish …” (John 10:27-28)

Matt 7:23 (NASB) “I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness.”

Matt 7:23 (NLT) “I never knew you. Get away from Me, you who break God’s laws.”

Matt 7:23 (TLB) “You have never been Mine. Go away, for your deeds are evil.”

Matt 7:23 (AMP) “depart from Me, you who act wickedly [disregarding My commands].”

Jesus has never approved of those so-called “believers” …

who “practice lawlessness” instead of practicing righteousness!

“In this the children of God and the children of the devil are manifest:
whoever does NOT practice righteousness is NOT of God” (1 John 3:10)

Do you really believe practicing righteousness includes habitually sinning?

 

• Great was the fall

Those who hear Jesus’ sayings, but don’t do them, have a great fall.

Is this fall from salvation, or from rewards? Lol

 

If you really know Jesus, you love Him and obey His commandments

 

John 14:15, 21, 23, 24 • “If anyone loves Me, he will obey My word (commandments).”

John 8:31 • “If you abide in (obey) My word, you are My disciples indeed.”

John 8:51 • “Most assuredly … if anyone obeys My word he shall never see death.”

 

Matthew 19:17 • “But if you want to enter into (eternal) life, obey the commandments.”

Luke 8:21 • “My mother and My brothers are these who hear the word of God and obey it.”
Luke 11:28 • “More than that, blessed are those who hear the word of God and obey it!”

Luke 8:15 • “But the ones (hearers of the word of God) that fell on the good ground

are those who … obey it and bear fruit with patience.”

 

Hebrews 5:9 • “He became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him.”
James 1:21 • “But be obeyers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves.”

Romans 8:4, NLT • “So now we are able to obey God’s laws, if we follow after the Holy Spirit”

 

1 John 2:3 • “Now by this we know that we know Him, if we obey His commandments.

1 John 2:17 • “… but he who obeys the will of God abides forever.”
1 John 3:24 • “Now he who obeys His commandments abides in Him, and He in him.”

 

So, whose slave do you choose to be? … “(a slave) of sin leading to death,

OR (a slave) of obedience leading to righteousness” (Romans 6:16)

 

To the grace-only believer

Don’t you care if Jesus “knows” (approves of) you or not?

Do you really believe that you’re going to heaven regardless?

Part of being “lukewarm” is NOT obeying Jesus’ commandments!

It’s all selfishness … not caring anything about the wishes of our Savior.

Jesus says: If you are a lukewarm believer, you think you are A-OK, but …

“you are wretched, miserable, poor, blind, and naked” (Revelation 3:17).

i do think that many of the words Christ spoke have been quoted above.  However you might be missing a few.  After The Father of Jesus has sent a person to Christ, seeing that none can go to Christ unless The Father has sent him, Christ will not turn any away.  For Christ will not turn away any who has come to Him.  But if we have been sent to Christ and after we hear and decide for ourselves that He is not what we want for our lives and after we leave Him, and not He leave us, then the grounds of not being obedient can be question.  Also, if you are not daily on a walk with Christ in a real relationship, spiritually and mentally and emotionally and physically, then following Jesus' very Own Words, as you have quoted above, is to be just as 'legalistic' as every Commandment keeper and Thumper.  People remain with Christ not because it is obligation but because they love being around Him.  Even in His hot temper at times (the driving out of the temple merchants) (calling Peter 'satan' in front of His disciples) (asking if 'you also' are going to leave; after they questioned Him about how He could be the manna from Heaven) (the constant questioning and answering between the Rabbinical Jews and Christ throughout the day) (having lepers and blind and mute and the 'unclean' always shouting and wanting His attention) (being in the Wilderness with no food so as to have Christ multiply bread and fish so all could eat lest they fainted on their way home) (telling His disciples that one of them was a traitor) (telling the disciples that He was going to get handed over to sinners and crucified) (telling His disciples that unless people believe He is The Christ whom God sent that they would die in their sins)..... all this His disciples listened to and learned...  And if they disagreed with Him about His knowledge, they left... But many remained with Him.  Many were offended at His Words.  Many knew His Words were the Words of God. 

On ‎8‎/‎4‎/‎2016 at 4:05 PM, xpaddingtonx said:

PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO READ THIS.  IT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING YOU COULD EVER DO AND IT ONLY TAKES A FEW MINUTES.

 

 ARE YOU 100% SURE THAT IF YOU DIED TODAY THAT YOU WOULD GO TO HEAVEN?

 There are some things that you should know: 

1. Realize that you are a sinner and in need of a Savior:

 

 Ro 3:23 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"

 Ro 3:10 "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:"

 This all began with the story of Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden. God created them perfect, there was no death or sorrow. God told them not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. They disobeyed God and as a result, sin entered into the world. The pain which this world sees is the result of sin.

 2. Because of our sins, we die both spiritually and physically, but God sent His Son to die so that you can have a chance not to have to go to hell by accepting what He did on the cross for you:

 Ro 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

 Ro 5:8 "But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. for us."

 Every person who has ever lived is a sinner and is not righteous because we do bad things. A sin is a crime against God, just as if you steal something at the store, it is punishable by going to jail. It's the same thing with sin. Even if we lie one time, the punishment is hell, which is a prison for those who commit crimes against God.  That’s because you must be perfect in order to get to heaven. No matter how well you live your life from then on, you have already committed a sin which will be punished if you are not pardoned. If you commit a crime, and then live as a good citizen you still will go to jail for the crime you committed. Right? Just as the president can pardon a crime so you won't go to jail, Jesus can pardon your sins so that you do not go to hell, and can go to heaven when you die.

 3. If you will Admit to Jesus Christ that you are a sinner and in need of a Savior, Believe in your heart that He died on the cross and rose from the dead and Accept Him as your Lord and Savior and you will be forgiven and taken to heaven to be with Him when you die.

 Joh 1:12 “But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name”

 Ro 10:9,10 "that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.."

 You cannot get to heaven by being a good person, going to church, baptism or any other way other than by turning to Jesus, believing in your heart that He died on the cross and rose from the dead for your sins and placing your trust in Him. While these are good things to do, some people believe that they will get to heaven if they do these things, but the bible says that there is only one way to heaven and that is through receiving what Jesus Christ did on the cross for you.

 Will you do that today? If you will, you can be 100% sure that you will go to heaven when you die.

 DO YOU BELIEVE THAT JESUS CHRIST DIED ON THE CROSS AND ROSE FROM THE DEAD FOR YOUR SINS?

 ARE YOU WILLING TO TURN TO JESUS CHRIST FOR SALVATION?

 4. If you are willing to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and believe it with all of your heart, you could pray something like this to God from your heart:

 "Dear Lord Jesus, I believe that You died on the Cross and Rose from the dead for my sins. I ask you to come into my heart and forgive me for my sins, save me, take me to be with You when I die. I now receive You as my Lord and Savior. Thank You for saving me.  In Jesus holy name, Amen."

 If you have placed your faith in Jesus Christ and meant it with all of your heart, you are now a child of God and will go to heaven. 

 Now that you are on your way to heaven, you should attend a bible believing church and follow in baptism. 

".....Will you do that today? If you will, you can be 100% sure that you will go to heaven when you die."

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I'm not too sure if I'm going to go to heaven when I die or if I'm going to wait in the grave until the day of Resurrection.  And seeing that the dead no nothing, my body will become a heap of bones after the decay has eaten up my inwards.  How I will go to heaven when I die, I am not sure.  But I do know that on the Day of Resurrection, or The Last Day, my body will rise from out of the grave, if I had died by that time..    I can not see the Day of Resurrection as being an every day occurence since the day Christ rose and ascended on High. 

On ‎3‎/‎23‎/‎2017 at 5:50 PM, Yowm said:

Can you summarize the point you are trying to make in one or two sentences?

sure... besides trying to explain the importance of Morality and so showing how The Holy Bible is accurate with its' Morals, showing how The Holy Bible is accurate to other factual things might prove to be a better 'reasoning' and a better proof that The Holy Bible is accurate.  And hence; the defense of God's Word and not a defense of God's morals.

Why are there no mentions of 'demons' or 'devils' in The Old Testament? The only mention of 'devils' in The Old Testament is when it speaks of the former perfectness of the angel who used to walk on carbuncles and the others. Also in the very first book, Genesis, it speaks of the 'serpent'. I can't recall many other instances where the 'demons' or 'devils' caused people to hide in tombs, lash out, foam at the mouth, etc, in other human bodies except for in the New Testament.

Why might that be?

I have a possible answer.

Perhaps when Jesus was around, those who thought of Him in a non Truthful, debased manner caused their minds to become debased and ill, hence forming 'demonic' like attitudes and 'actions'. Perhaps it was and is when a person thinks on Christ Jesus with 'course jesting' and filthy and foul ideations which causes their minds to become more as 'demons' than as humans.

In other words, they are playing around with Holiness, flippantly and unreverentially, in their minds which is worse than Sigmund Freud's Oedipus Complex theory.

When a person has no Holy and no knowledge of how to deal in respect to higher authorities in their minds due to their 'playing' around with Holy and respectable things within their minds with irreverence and flippancy, then they begin to forget what it means to respect and hold certain things in esteem and worship. Christ would become as another 'thing' in the life of the person instead of remaining God in the life of the person.

Take for example Da Vinci Code with its' suggestion that Christ Jesus was married to Mary Magdalene and also had biological children with her.

Hearing such a statement would come across as a heresy and a blasphemy. However, why would the statement of Christ Jesus having biological children and having a wife NOT be possible?

From what The Holy Bible says, we can come to conclusions that will either prove that He could or that He could not have biological children and have a 'sexual' wife.

Firstly, God desires us all to be as Him, Holy.

And so what is Holy which Christ Jesus was?

And how does The Holy Bible define 'holy'?

We know that Christ was without sin.

And so what is 'sin' that He was without?

He did not break 1 'Law' of God throughout His whole earth Life.

He was not born in the natural ways of man and woman; hence he did not have the male gamete which the sperm would have provided; meaning his chromosomes were not the 46 but rather 23.

Secondly, since The Holy Bible does not condemn sexual relations as a 'sin' why would it have been a 'sin' if Christ Jesus partook?

So why would it not have been possible for Christ Jesus to have had children and have had a sexual 'wife'?

#1 - To be married would have meant that He was bound to His wife.
 However Jesus could not have been at home all the time because He was doing His Father's work. But since He was always doing His Father's work, He would have broken a Law of God, and therefore sinned.

#2 -  The Law states that the father shall talk of the LORD, as he sits, as he lays, as he walks, as he enters in and exits out.  Christ would have therefore have needed to re-enter His home if He had children, to tend to them and teach them of The LORD.

#3- He would have had to have left His Mother and Father upon His marriage. Since we know that He remained with His family until His mission began, if He was married before His missionary work began, He would have broken the Law by not being separated from His mother and father and joined as one with His wife.

#3- If He was married and left home, He would have also have had to leave His Heavenly Father, seeing that a man leaves his father and mother and the two (husband and wife) is joined as one.

These are only a few reasons why it was not possible that He was married and had biological children, unless people are claiming Him to be an adulterer. But once again, if He was an adulterer, He would have been a 'sinner', which makes those possibilities impossible.

To entertain that the impossible, that Christ 'sinned' is possible and to try to figure out how He may have committed sin, is playing with 'Holy' in the mind in a debased way which could transform the mind and the person into a 'demonic-like' human being rather than a whole human being.

The Holy Bible will define how Christ could not have been such a person since God Himself has called Him without 'sin'. And here is how we can tell that Christ was without sin.

God required a sinless sacrifice; a clean and unblemised sacrifice. If Christ did 'sin', God would not have resurrected Him from the grave.

You don't need to be a sophisticated speecher if you want to share the Truth about God. And you don't need to be a reasoner if you can't explain how Christ was not a 'sinner'.

Showing how Christ was Sinless, hence being the 'Head' of Godliness and the fullness of the Godhead bodily, would probably have the others understand that to try to outreason God with His Holy Word is vanity.

#1- Since The Holy Bible says that it is impossible for God to lie, keeping to His Written Word to prove Truth, would be the better approach.

And so looking to the first man, Adam. How would he have received the 46 chromosomes a human being has if he did not receive the male gamete nor the female gamete? He would have had no chromosomes of a human being.

Since he was not in any 'womb' of a woman, he was not formed through natural 'reproduction'. He was formed directly by God's Hand and by God's Breath. He was the first original 'creation' of a living soul. And he would not have been able to have any set of chromosomes.

Christ Jesus, on the other hand, was NOT created nor was Christ Jesus formed.

Rather, Christ Jesus and Adam would have been in a 'state' of a 'living soul' which had no chromosomes. Both Christ Jesus and Adam shared that same 'non-chromosome''living soul'.

And so Christ Jesus took on the form of man, the form which Adam received after he partook of the tree of good and evil. However in their original 'living soul', they might not have been as human beings are today.

It was His 23 chromosomed 'body' which took the 'sins' of the world and it was the 23 chromosomed 'body' which in whose stripes we are healed. The other part of Him, the full God, is NOT part of the 23 chromosomed body although the 23 chromosomed body was sinless.

Christ Jesus, although He had 'flesh', had flesh because Adam partook of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, making 'flesh' the race which needed 'salvation.'

Both Adam and Eve, were non chromosomed 'living souls'.

They might have been as the Holy Angels...

The so-called 'West Bank' is located in the Eastern Border in Israel which gives the point of reference coming from the regions of Ammon, Bashan, Aram.  In Biblical times, the Sons of Israel had to cross and pass by and through the regions of Ammon, Bashan and Aram in order to enter into God's Promised Land. 

The Sons of Israel crossed the Jordan River from the Eastern Side and entered into The Promised Land going Westward with 2 tribes remaining on the Eastern side of the Jordan River.  https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/52/ed/68/52ed68fd0eebbf01766ad4619bfffd73.jpg

And so current Israel with Jerusalem in the Eastern border of Israel is being viewed and addressed as the Country/Nation which is Westward in relation to them.  And so thus the name: The West Bank. 

Most definitely, the name 'West Bank' was not given by any person from within Israel but rather by someone whose standpoint to that region is truly seen as 'Towards The West'

Why would my own personal thoughts and my own personal desires be considered to be wrong if I think and believe that they are good?  Why are my 'goods' considered to be 'wrongs'? 

If ancient people who lived within a society of no schools and no STD'S were fine with living with a no 'set' standard of thinking and if sex came with no threats of contracting an STD, why is my thought of being such as them, free minded and free spirited, 'wrong'? 

We are living within a schooled and STD world today.  Those personal thoughts and feelings, today, may be just as not wrong as it were then, but there will be lots of friction within your life living with those 'ways' in today's times which have schools of thought and schools of medicine. 

are you good?  are your ideas 'good'?

Mark 12:29

"And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:"