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Keras

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  1. But the Millenium is Prophesied in the Bible. It is only your comprehension and understanding which is missing. Why make such an issue about it anyway? Note; that the Millennium reign of Jesus is mentioned in several books of the Apocrypha and many of the Early Church Fathers wrote about it.
  2. Yes, We can read about it in Isaiah 2:2-4, Zechariah 14:16-21, Psalms 145:1-21, + Those things are all described as physically present on earth, in many other Prophesies. Do you really think that the whole Plan of God for mankind, will just end in a fizzer? Jesus will reign on earth, it is His right and His reward.
  3. Thank you. I don't report rudeness and scriptural error, I just feel sorry for their confusion and unpreparedness for what must happen. The Seventh Seal is a time gap, nothing more, nothing less. The effects of the Seals, as described takes place at the time when Jesus removes each of them. He has removed Seals 1 to 5, when He Ascended to heaven, Rev 5 This is proved by how all the souls of the Christian martyrs from Stephen and still ongoing. The Sixth Seal sudden and shocking worldwide devastation, is the next Prophesied event. Wait for the Day! Zephaniah 3:8
  4. Revelation 20 has clear proof of a thousand years of earth time after Jesus has Returned. Scripture says it and you deny it. Bad you.
  5. Revelation 15:1 refutes you. To shuffle the Seals, Trumpets and Bowls, is serious error. It is clear that the 6th Seal is the next Prophesies event we can expect. Proved by how Jesus stopped His quote of Isaiah 61:1-2, before the day of vengeance...
  6. You constantly demonstrate your fixed beliefs and show how confused you are. Jesus came the first time as a suffering servant, He will Return as King of Kings and will take His reward of reigning over the world for a thousand years, to deny this, is unscriptural foolishness.
  7. Hosea 6:2 says how the Lord will revive His people for the 2 'days'- 2000 years of the Church age and then we will live in His Presence for the third 'day', the Millenium. There is no other sensible explanation for Hosea's Prophecy. Also, there is the proof of the fact we are very close to 6000 years since Adam. There will be a thousand years when King Jesus will reign on earth, Zechariah 14:1621, +
  8. But there is: Psalms 2:7-9, Psalms 110:2-6, Isaiah 2:2-4, Zechariah 14:16-21, + We are not talking about the Eternal Kingdom, but the Kingdom that Jesus will have when He Returns, His reward for the sacrifice He made at His first Advent. Proved by how Jesus will hand the Kingdom back to God; AFTER He has reigned for a thousand years. 1 C0r 15:24-28, Revelation 20:4b People who think its all over when Jesus returns, are wrong and deny Jesus His reward.
  9. The idea of a body change at Jesus' Return, is not clearly stated in the NT. But a clear Prophecy which proves the peoples in the Millennium will be mortals, is Isaiah 65:20 It is a contradiction of the Bible and an illogical theory, to believe those worthy, will receive any kind of body change for the Milennium.
  10. What there should be no need for, is the seriously bad way people try to explain away the plain Words in Revelation 20. That chapter very plainly states how there will be a thousand year time for Jesus to rule the world. It will be His reward. Psalms 2:7-9 And it won't be 'sin cursed', as Satan will be locked away. Rev 20:1-3
  11. Isaiah 33:17-24 Your eyes will see a King in his glory and view a Land that stretches into the distance. Numbers 24:15-19 You will call to mind what you once feared. Where are they now? Those barbarous people whose speech you could not understand. Psalms 58:10-11, Psalms 37:8-15 Look upon Zion, Jerusalem, city of sacred festivals. A secure abode, never again to be moved. Amos 9:13-15 There the Lord will be in His majesty, a peaceful place. A place of broad rivers, but no ships will sail there. The Lord is our judge and lawgiver. He is our King who will save us. Zechariah 8:7-8 Your rigging hangs loose, the mast is not secure and your sails are not set. Luke 12:35-36. Then all will take a share in the spoils. Zechariah 9:17 No one living in Zion will get sick and the sins of the people will be pardoned. Psalms 126:1-3 Isaiah 33:17-24 speaks of the Return of Jesus and His reign during the Millennium.
  12. But there is much evidence for the Millennium; The AMillennium theory refuted: Hosea 6:2 prophesies the 2000 year Christian age, our revival, then the 1000 years when we will live in His sight. The formula for a day in heaven, being the equal to 1000 years earth time, is in: Psalms 90:4 and 2 Peter 3:8 There is also the prophecy of Jesus in Luke 13:32, where He says: Today and tomorrow I shall be working...and the next day I shall come into My reward. He then says: Nevertheless, [notwithstanding, or in spite of this...] I must go on today and tomorrow and the following day, for I must perish in Jerusalem. Luke 13:33 Jesus is NOT talking about the same time periods in both of these verses. If people like to think that; they make Him to be rather confused and unnecessarily repetitive. No; He Prophesied in verse 32, how He will work for the Christian age of 2000 years. Now at 1992 years since He said that. Jesus does answer prayers, He does cure some people, He does appear to those who cry out to Him, in sincerity. Satan is not now sealed into the Abyss. He does deceive many in this age. The 'next day' is Gods reward to Jesus for His sacrifice, His reign over the world for the next thousand years, Psalms 2:7-9 Revelation 20:1-7 backs these scriptures up! The AMill belief is illogical and unscriptural. It is a lie that denies Jesus His reward.
  13. This is just pretentious nonsense. An avoidance of the truths that are seen in Revelation 8:1 The 7 Trumpets do not 'contain all of Gods wrath'. a foolish statement, refuted by the Sixth Seal and His wrath against the ungodlym of the 7 Bowls.
  14. Yes, Jesus will be the King and the High Priest, on earth for a thousand years. We just need to get through the next period, to keep strong in our faith thru all that must happen before Jesus Returns.
  15. No; we Christian peoples do not have a problem with the 'beast' - the 'little horn', or simply - the Anti-Christ man. What you and most others seem unable to see, is how the Lords faithful peoples will gather in the holy Land and live in peace and prosperity. Ezekiel 34:11-16, + Proved by how the Lord saves us from a huge attacking army from the North. Ezekiel 38-39, Joel 2:20 But there will come a time when that leader of the ungodly peoples will take control of Jerusalem and the holy Land. Daniel 7:25, Zephaniah 14:1-2a, Revelation 12:13 & 13:7. Then; those who kept strong in their faith and kept the Covenant, Daniel 11-32, Rev 12:14, will be taken to a place of safety on earth for the 1260 day period of Satanic world control. They will be the main group which will be gathered when Jesus Returns. Matthew 24:30-31 So, those who trust the Lord and keep faithful thru all that must happen, do not have to take the 'mark of the beast', or worship his image. Note; that those who do fail in some aspect of it all, are the ones who must remain, as Zechariah 14:2b & Revelation 12:17 tell us.
  16. To follow the 'wise and learned' is a bad mistake, as Jesus said the truths of the Prophetic Word are hidden from them. Matthew 11:25-26 Anyway, to deny the Millennium reign of King Jesus, is an outright rejection of scripture.
  17. Firstly, Americans need to get over their ideas of being the God's Own people. There are Christians all over the world, they all need to get out of the Babylonian type societies they live in. This will be the fate of the godless and careless peoples: Isaiah 47:1-4 Come down and sit in the dust, virgin daughter of Babylon. Lose your place of rule, you daughter of the Babylonians, never again will you be called beautiful. When the Lord takes vengeance, with no clemency for anyone, your shame will be exposed. But your Redeemer is the Holy One of Israel. Isaiah 47:5-7 Sit in silence and go into darkness, you daughter of Babylon, for never again will you be called ‘the queen of the nations’. The Lord was angry with His people and he allowed the Land to be desecrated. I gave My people into your power and you showed them no mercy, you even made the elderly work. You said: ‘I will be powerful forever, the leader of the nations’, but you failed to realize that there will come a Day of Reckoning. Isaiah 47:8-10 Now; you lover of luxury and given to pleasures, carefree in your power and thinking that nothing will change, listen to this: Suddenly, in an instant, in a single Day, disaster will befall you. You trust in sorceries and witchcraft and in your wickedness, you think that no one sees your sins. Your wisdom and knowledge have led you astray and you have said: I am, and there is none beside me. Isaiah 47:11-12 Therefore a calamity will fall upon you, one that you cannot see or prevent. Ruin and catastrophe will suddenly overtake you. Persist in your godless ways and false beliefs that you have always held to, maybe help will come from them, perhaps you will keep some strength! Isaiah 47:13-15 Yet, in spite of your many experts and astrologers, you are powerless and all your stargazers cannot save you from what is coming. They will be as stubble when the fire burns them up, they will not save themselves from the heat of the flames. This will not be a glowing coal to warm anyone, this will not be a fire to sit by! So much for those who have advised you, they continue in their error and they will not help you. Virgin daughter of Babylon: It is evident that this is not the original Babylon, or the actual descendants of them, as this Bible passage refers to a later people, [Jeremiah 51:7] who are in a ‘place of rule, the queen of the nations’, and who are thought of as ‘beautiful’, that is: prosperous and desirable. They are ‘lovers of luxury, given to pleasures and carefree in their power’. Their ‘wisdom and knowledge has led them astray’, that is: their scientists promote evolution, gene manipulation etc. Their teachers refute the Bible and the Ten Commandments, their lawyers think they have done well if they get a guilty person off and now their leaders pursue policies of appeasement and aggrandizement. They are a ‘type’ of Babylon. ‘They cannot save you from what is coming’. ‘On the Day of Reckoning, when the Lord takes vengeance’, all those types of people ‘will be as stubble, they will not save themselves from the heat of the flames. Suddenly, in one Day, calamity will befall you’. This will be the terrible Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath, the next prophesied event that we can expect, a judgement of fire in the form of an enormous mass of superheated particles ejected from the sun. Isaiah 66:15-17 Sit in silence, go into darkness. After the disaster of the Day of the Lord, the huge fires of the cities and forests and also volcanic eruptions will cause the sky to darken for quite a long period. The survivors will have time to contemplate their wayward lives and those who can change will turn to the Lord in faith and trust in Him for their salvation. Jer. 51:50, Joel 2:32 Revelation 18:4-8 Come out of her, My people, lest you have any part of her sins and you share in her punishments. Disaster will strike in a single Day and she will perish in flames, for mighty is the Lord, who has pronounced her doom! Jer. 51:5-6 Ref: REB. Some verses abridged.
  18. It is sad to see fellow Christians locked into false theories and wrong ideas. It is worse when they forcefully promote those beliefs. What will happen will be as 1 Corinthians 3:13-15 tells us. The 'works' of false teachers, will get burned up and there will be no rewards for them.
  19. I regard your denial of Prophetic truths as a serious mistake, but your insistence that Jesus will not reign on earth for the stated thousand years, as heretical and un-Christian. You are making much grief for yourself; why? At the least, you should just drop the issue and let events take place as God desires.
  20. Isn't it obvious that there has to be a gap between these two verses? Jesus does not Return, then immediately hand the Kingdom back to God. Many Prophesies tell about His rule on earth for a long time and Revelation 20 specifies - in 6 verses: that time as a thousand years. It is blatant disregard for the Prophetic Word, to reject a clear statement, especially bad from the Book of Revelation. To believe that all the dead Christians will be resurrected at the Return, is another serious mistake, as Rev 20:4-6 clearly says that only the GT martyrs will be resurrected.
  21. The Seventh Seal is just a time gap; Revelation 8:1 When the Lamb broke the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven for about a half hour. We are clearly told that the ‘about a half hour’, is in heaven. Time in heaven is not and cannot be the same as earthly time, heaven doesn’t rotate or orbit the sun. God is eternal, His ways are not our ways. Anyway, the Bible informs us twice that one day in heaven is like [as] 1000 years on earth. Psalm 90:4 and 2 Peter 3:8 Genesis speaks of ‘6 days’ of creation, it seems more logical that they were actually 1000 year periods, or allegorically pointing to God’s 7000 year Plan for the humankind. We have a date for the completion of the 6000 year era of mankind’s time, obtained from the careful addition of the given Biblical time periods and the commencement of Jesus’ ministry in 29/30 AD. Luke 3:1 2 The three tranches of 2000 years: Adam to Abraham, Abraham to Jesus. The first Advent to the glorious Return, then the thousand year Millennium reign of King Jesus. Gods 7000 year Plan for Mankind on the physical earth. It had been assumed that the ‘half hour’ starts soon after the Sixth Seal and finishes at the commencement of the Trumpet and Bowl punishments of the Great Tribulation. That is: 3½ years before the Return. But the Sixth Seal commences the Wrath of God and the Lamb, Rev. 6:17, then we see it isn’t until the completion of the Great Tribulation, that the Wrath of God is finished. Revelation 15:1 The calculation of 1000 divided by 48 gives us a heavenly half-hour of about 20 earth years. But that is only the centre of a range of years possible because it is "about" a half-hour. Calculating the range of years is based upon statistical rules: Since the text tells us a half-hour, we examine the next divisible time period which is a quarter-hour. We simply find the distance between 30 minutes and 15 minutes (above and below) and find the half-way points. This gives us +/- 5 centred on 20 years. Therefore the range is from 15 years to 25 years. If the actual year is outside of this range, then the Revelation account would have read "about a quarter of an hour” or “about three-quarters of an hour." But, Revelation says "about a half-hour." Thus we know it can't be outside the range of 15 to 25 years (including anything in between) otherwise "about an half-hour" would be wrong . Therefore if, as seems likely, if the Sixth Seal – the great and terrible Day of the Lord, happens very soon – then the Seventh Seal follows immediately afterwards. So that will be the period of ‘silence in heaven’ but of tumult and huge changes on earth! A lot must happen during that time – the regeneration of the Land, many prophesies about that – the Lord will send rain. Then the gathering, and settling of His people, again many prophecies – houses rebuilt, land productive... The selection of the 144,000, The Gog Magog attack and 7 years clean up. The treaty with the Anti-Christ, the AoD in the new Temple and 3½ years of the Great Tribulation. Then the glorious Return of King Jesus. It all fits and I see the Hand of God in it. Ref: logostelos.info
  22. You fail to note that John 3:2 and other Prophesies like 1 Cor 15, do not specify the time of their fulfilment. We get that clearly stated information from Revelation 20:11-15. AFTER the Millennium. At the Return, those who are worthy to go with Him into the Millennium, will be like Him, in their lives and actions. Immortality cannot come until the Book of Life is opened.
  23. There certainly is a distinction between the Jewish State of Israel and the Christian Church. But the Israelites of God are the Christian peoples. Galatians 3:26-29 Literally the Overcomers for God.
  24. Don't ask him! Read the plain Words for yourself. Revelation is a simple narrative, not to be spiritualized or made a past event. That the Millennium reign of King Jesus, is future and will happen as Isaiah 2:1-4 says, is proved by there now being nearly 6000 years passed since Adam, the final thousand years will complete Gods plan for His Creation. Work for 6 'days', then the Sabbath Day.
  25. I did say about 1 Corinthians 15:50-56. There is no time mentioned when that will happen, but we do know; =it must be after the Millennium, as only then will Death be no more. Revelation 121:4 Jesus very clearly stated He would Return to the earth, Zechariah 14:4, tells us exactly where,
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