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  1. I realize that what I post about Christians going to live in the holy Land, is a new concept to most, however, the prophesies support it and the basic reason that this idea has not been considered has to be because God has not wanted it known. The Lords Day of Vengeance and The Great Day of the Sovereign Lord. 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10 ... when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels in blazing fire. Then he will mete out punishment to those who refuse to acknowledge God and who will not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. They will suffer the penalty of eternal destruction, cut off from the presence of God. When, on that great Day He comes to reveal His glory amongst His own and His majesty to all believers. Do not confuse this passage with the Return of Jesus in His glory. He does NOT come in fire then, or punish all the ungodly. This time, at the Sixth Seal event, He reveals Himself only to those who believe in Him and keep His Laws. Isaiah 24:23, Zechariah 9:14-17 1/ The Day of Vengeance and the wrath of God; Psalms 11:4-6 The Lord is in heaven,….. He will rain fiery coals onto the wicked…. Isaiah 66:15-16 See, the Lord is coming in fire, His sword will test mankind. Micah 5:15 In anger and fury, I shall wreak vengeance on the nations who disobey Me. Habakkuk 3:12 Furiously; You trample down the nations. Malachi 4:1 The Day comes; burning like a furnace, evildoers will be as stubble. Hebrews 10:27...a terrifying judgement of fire that will consume God’s enemies. Isaiah 30:26 On the day that the Lord saves His people,[born again Christians] the sun will shine with seven times its usual strength..and the moon will be as bright as the sun. Revelation 14:17-20 ..the angel with authority over fire....the winepress of God’s wrath… So, we see that the first event is the Lord sending fire by the means of an earth directed explosion of the suns surface, literally causing all the graphic effects prophesied. 2/ The Great Day of the Sovereign Lord; the Return of the Lord Jesus; Rev 16:14b Matthew 24:29-31 As soon as this time of distress has passed [the Tribulation] the sun will be darkened and the moon will not give light, the stars will fall and all the heavenly bodies will be shaken. Then ALL the peoples will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. With a trumpet blast He will send His angels to gather His chosen from the farthest corners of the world. These will be all the people who have kept faithful to the Lord during the Tribulation as all the Christians will be living in the Land soon after the Day of vengeance. Rev 12:6-17 Revelation 19:11-21....Jesus Returns and the destroys Satan’s armies, by the Sword of His Word and Satan is bound until the end of the 1000 years. Zechariah 14:3-5 There will be four judgement/punishments, the first to happen soon, the Lord’s Day of vengeance and wrath, a worldwide judgement of fire, earthquakes, storms and tsunamis against the nations, that will particularly affect the Middle East. Zephaniah 1:14-18, Ezekiel 30:1-5 This will enable His people, every faithful Christian person, Jew or Gentile, to resettle the Land. Ezekiel 34:11-16 Then, later comes the Gog/Magog attack and destruction. Ezekiel 38 & 39 At the Return of Jesus, He destroys the armies of the Anti Christ. Revelation 19:17-21 Then, at the end of the Millennium, there is another attack by a huge army, then comes the Great White Throne judgement of all people alive and dead. Note: that in Rev 19:13 Jesus Returns in a garment dyed in blood. In Isaiah 63:3 He tramples the nations....and their blood spattered all his clothing. From this and the sequence in 2 Thessalonians, we can say that the Day of the Lord’s wrath- the Sixth Seal, Revelation 6:12-17 will be the next prophesied event of the end times.
  2. 2 Thessalonians 1:4-10 We hold you [Christians] up as a good example of steadfast faith, because you have kept faithful despite difficulties and troubles. This will show the justice of God's judgement, when you prove worthy to partake in the Kingdom, for which you are currently suffering. It is just that God should balance the account by sending affliction to those who afflict you and to give you relief when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven in blazing fire. Then, He will punish all those who refuse to acknowledge God or the Gospel of Jesus. They will suffer the penalty of eternal destruction cut off from any hope of salvation, when on that great Day, He comes to reveal His glory among His own and to all believers. Therefore to you, since you believe the testimony of the Gospel. All the faithful Christians. This passage describes the Day of the Lord's vengeance and wrath, a terrible fire judgement upon His enemies and how, at that time, He saves and delivers His people. He is not seen by all the world at this first event, only by believers in Him. Many other prophecies parallel this; Isaiah 10:17-22, Isaiah 29:19-21, Isaiah 30:26, Jeremiah 30:4-8, Ezekiel 34:12, Amos 9:8-12 2 Thessalonians 2:1-8 Now, about the coming of our Lord, Jesus Christ, when He is to gather the elect to Himself, do not be alarmed by anyone who says He is here already. Let no one deceive you: that Day cannot come before the final rebellion against God, when wickedness will be revealed in human form, the man doomed to destruction. He is the adversary who aspires to be worshipped in God's place and he even enthrones himself in the temple, claiming to be God. Daniel 8:10 Already the secret forces of wickedness are at work, but the restraining power of the Holy Spirit will ensure that he will be revealed only at the appointed time. Then, the Lord Jesus will destroy him by His Spirit and His radiant power. Now - that is: several years after the previous events of judgement and deliverance, Jesus will Return, in glory, visible to all. He destroys the armies attacking Jerusalem and chains up Satan, then commences His Millennial reign. Revelation 19:11-21, Revelation 20:1-6 At this time He gathers 'the elect' to Himself, Matthew 24:31, 1 Thess 4:15-17, they are Christian people who have kept pure and faithful to Him, during the Tribulation. 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12 The coming of this wicked person is the work of Satan, it will be accompanied by all the powerful signs and miracles that falsehood can devise and every sort of evil that deceives those who do not open their minds to the truth. They are doomed to perish, because they refuse to listen to the Gospel of the truth, so God has put them under a compelling delusion; which makes them believe what is false. So all will be judged and condemned who have rejected the truth, but have made sinfulness their choice. Ref: REB, NIV, KJV. Some verses abridged. Here, in Paul's letter to the Thessalonians, he prophesies about two separate appearances of Jesus. First, His coming in 'blazing fire', when He will reveal Himself only to His righteous people, when He destroys the nations and entities who 'conspire to attack Israel', in fulfilment of Psalm 83, Revelation 6:12-17 and many other prophecies. His righteous Christian people go to live in the Promised Land. Then, at least 7 years after that devastating and shocking event, the Anti Christ will come to power and 'enthrone himself in the Temple', this commences the Great Tribulation and 1260 days later, Jesus Returns to live once again on earth.
  3. Millennial Day Theory

    I will post more than a dozen that say the holy Land will be very quickly regenerated soon after the Lord's Day of fiery wrath: Ezekiel 36:8 Prophesy over the hills and valleys of Israel: You Land of Israel, grow your trees and yield fruit, for My people, as their homecoming is near. Isaiah 29:17 In a very short time Lebanon will return to garden land. Amos 9:13 A time is coming, says the Lord, when the Land will be bountiful again. Zechariah 8:11-12 The Lord says: I do not feel the same towards the remnant of this people as I did in former days. Now, they will sow in safety, the vine will yield its fruit and the soil it’s produce, for the sky will give rain in due season. Jeremiah 33:12-13 In the Land, there will once more be heard sounds of joy and gladness. My people will offer praise and thanksgiving in the House of the Lord. In this place and in all the towns, now ruined and devoid of both people and animals, there will once more be flocks of sheep and people, in all of the Land of Israel. Joel 2:21-24 Earth: fear not, but rejoice and be glad, for the pastures will be green and the trees will grow, the fig and vine will bear harvest. People of Zion, rejoice, the Lord provides food by sending rain in season, as in days of old. The threshing floors will be heaped with grain and the vats will overflow with new wine. Isaiah 35:6b-7 Water will spring up in the desert, the thirsty Land will bubble with water and the mirage will become a lake. Grass will grow over all the country. Isaiah 66:12-14 The Lord says: I shall make prosperity flow over My people like a river, I shall comfort them and they will flourish like the grass in springtime. The Lord will make His power known among His servants and His fury to His enemies. 2 Thessalonians 1:8-10 On that great Day, the Lord will reveal His glory among His own and His fiery punishment on those who refuse to acknowledge Him. Isaiah 49:19 The Lord did indeed make His Land waste and desolate. He razed it flat, but now the Land is too small for all its inhabitants. Those who caused its ruin are now far away. Psalm 24:3 Lord: restore now what has been completely ruined, all the destruction that the enemy has brought upon Your sanctuary. Isaiah 44:3a I shall pour down rain on the thirsty Land, showers onto the dry ground. Isaiah 51:3 The Lord has comforted Zion, He will look with compassion on all her ruined houses. The desert will become like Eden, like the garden of the Lord. Jeremiah 30:18 I shall restore the fortunes of Jacob’s clans, every city and house will be rebuilt. Isaiah 32:15-20 When the Spirit from on high is lavished upon us, then the desert will become a garden land. There will be justice and peace as My people live in their settled and secure country. Isaiah 30:23-25 On that Day, the Lord will provide rain for the seed that you sow and the soil will produce heavy crops. Your livestock will graze in lush pastures. Psalm 126:1-5 When the Lord restored the fortunes of Zion, we were like people renewed in health. Our mouths were full of laughter and we sang for joy! The nations said: The Lord has done great things for them and we rejoiced. Restore us now, Lord, let streams flow in the desert. Those who sow in tears, will reap with songs of joy, coming home with a bountiful harvest. Proverbs 10:24-25 What the wicked dread will overtake them, what the righteous desire, will be granted. When the whirlwind has swept past, the wicked will be gone, but the righteous will be established forever. Ref: REB. Some verses abridged. The rest of the world will also be badly affected, but most people will survive. They will form a One World Govt. All as the Prophetic Word says. Going to heaven is not an option, nowhere does the Bible say that. All the prophesies about the Millennium are clear, it is on earth.
  4. Millennial Day Theory

    You have written well, Brakelite. All scriptural exegesis, excepting your conclusion of point 13, where you make a guess as to where that city will be. We know the New Jerusalem is being prepared in heaven, John 14:1-3, and then it comes down to earth after the Millennium. Revelation 21:1-4 Nowhere does the Bible say we Christians are taken to heaven, the prophesies are plain; we have tasks to do on earth and we will experience all that must happen before Jesus Returns. It is the Christian survivors, those who endured to the end, who will greet Jesus at His Return. The new nation of Beulah: Isaiah 62:1-2a For Zion’s sake, I shall not keep silent – until her victory shines forth, like the sunrise, her victory like a blazing torch. The nations will see your victory and their rulers your glory. Isaiah prophesies for the sake of Zion; the holy Land. There will be a great victory, ‘like a blazing torch’ - a CME sunstrike over the attacking enemies. Isaiah 66:15-16, Psalms 11:4-6 The world will see it and be amazed. Jeremiah 33:6-16 Isaiah 62:2b-5 You will receive a new name, the Lord Himself will give it. You will be like a glorious crown in His hand. No more are you forsaken and your Land desolate. You will be called ‘Hephzibah’ and the Land, ‘Beulah’. For the Lord will delight in you and it will be like a marriage: He will rejoice over you as a bridegroom over his bride. ‘Hephzibah’ = My delight is in her. ‘Beulah’ = married. Isaiah 49:18 The Lord’s people, Christian Israelites will be gathered and settled into their heritage, all of the holy Land, in the new nation of Beulah. Wonderful promises to them of fertility and wealth. They will live in justice, peace and security, as He intended people to be. Isaiah 62:6-7 Jerusalem, on your walls, I have posted watchmen, they will call out: You that invoke the Name of the Lord, do not rest and give no rest to the Lord until He makes Jerusalem a praise throughout the world. The Hebrew word for ‘watchmen’, is ‘natzar’, the root word for Nazarene; literally all Christian believers. WE must not rest or let the Lord forget His people and His Land. Keep praying for our redemption and restoration. Ezekiel 36:24-28, Isaiah 52:7-9 Isaiah 62:8-9 The Lord has sworn to never again allow foreigners to take the produce of the Land, but you who give praises to Him will eat the grain and drink the wine, within My sacred courts. After the great clearance in the Middle East, only His righteous people will be allowed to live there, those who love the Lord and obey Him. Isaiah 35:1-10, Isaiah 66:20-21, Ezekiel 20:34-38 Isaiah 62:10-11 Pass through the gates – clear a road for My people. Build a highway, remove the rocks and make a signal to guide the people. Proclaim to the ends of the earth, say to the offspring of Zion: See your deliverance comes, His reward is with Him and He will make recompense. The great gathering of the Lord’s people – the second Exodus, will happen in the same manner as the first Exodus. Leaders [shepherds] will arise to guide the flock, in the spirit of Moses and Elijah. Jeremiah 3:14-15, Isaiah 58:11, Isaiah 43:5-7, Micah 4:6, Isaiah 49:9-13, Isaiah 51:3, Zechariah 8:11-12, Isaiah 40:1-5, Ezekiel 11:17 Isaiah 62:12 They will be called ‘The Holy people, the Redeemed of God’ and Jerusalem will be called ‘sought after, the City no longer forsaken’. The Lord’s faithful Christian people: living in the Holy Land of Beulah, as He created them to live, being a ‘light to the nations’ and witnesses to His salvation. They will send out 144,000 missionaries to every people group, to preach the good news of the coming Kingdom of Jesus. Isaiah 66:19, 1 Peter 2:9-10, Acts 2:39, Jeremiah 31:23-34 Joel 2:23-27 People of Zion, rejoice – your God will recompense you for the years that others have ravaged your Land. You will again have plenty in your own Land. Then you will know that I am present in Israel and that I and no other am your God. We will know the Lord is present by His deeds. Just as it was at the Exodus. Must be before the Return of Jesus for His Millennial reign.
  5. Sea and Waves Roaring...

    Wait for the Day: Zephaniah 3:8 Wait for Me, says the Lord, wait for the Day when I stand up and accuse mankind. For I shall pour out My wrath upon nations and kingdoms, in My burning anger: the whole earth will be devastated by fire. Zephaniah 1:14-18 The great Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath is near and coming fast. That Day will be a Day of distress and torment, a Day of devastation amid thick darkness. A Day of thunder and destruction against military fortifications and cities. the Lord will bring terrible distress upon the people, they won’t know which way to turn as they are punished for their sins against Me. Their blood and guts will be spilled out like filth over the ground. Neither their treasure nor their idols will be able to save them on the sudden and shocking Day of the Lord’s fiery anger. All the Land will be burned and devastated. Ezekiel 20:46-48 Zephaniah 2:1-3 Prepare yourselves, you undesirable nation, be humble before you disappear like chaff, before the burning anger of the Lord comes upon you. Seek righteousness; seek humility, all you people in the Land who obey God’s Laws and it may be that you will find shelter on the Day of the Lord’s anger. Zephaniah 2:4-7 Gaza will be deserted, Ashkelon left in ruins. At midday all the towns of the Mediterranean coast will be cleared of inhabitants, for the Word of God is against you – land of the Philistines. I shall lay you in ruins, no one will survive. The sea coast will become a sheep grazing area belonging to the survivors of Judah, for their God will turn to them and restore their fortunes. Isaiah 14-1, Ezekiel 36:1-37 Zephaniah 2:8-10 I have noted the insults of Moab and the Ammonites, how they have reviled My people and encroached on their frontiers. For this, I swear, they will become like Sodom and Gomorrah, a place of weeds and salt pans. Those of My people who survive will inherit their land. This is retribution for their pride, because they have insulted God’s people and taken over their Land. Jeremiah 12:14 Zephaniah 3:11-13 On that Day, Jerusalem, I shall rid you of your proud and arrogant citizens, but I will leave a remnant, a humble people who will trust in Me. The survivors in Israel will be righteous, under My protection. Isaiah 31:5 Zephaniah 3:19-20 When the time comes and I have dealt with your oppressors, then I shall rescue the lost and gather the dispersed and bring you all to your homeland. You will win respect and renown from the other nations when I restore your fortunes before your very eyes, It is I, the Lord, who speaks. Ref: REB. Some verses abridged. Wait for the Day; the whole earth burned and devastated. The only known way how this could happen, is by a massive Coronal Mass Ejection, a fire judgement mentioned and described over 100 times in Bible prophecy. It will be the event that ‘comes like a thief’, unexpected and shocking. Isaiah 30:26, Malachi 4:1 You undesirable nation – the Israelite people: now that is, every born again Christian. It may be that those who live righteously and humbly will ‘find shelter on the Day of the Lord’s anger.’ 2 Peter 2:9 Philistines and Moab and Ammon – Palestinians and Jordanians. Amos 1:6-8 & 13-14 leave a remnant in Jerusalem, under My protection – Isaiah 4:3, Zechariah 9:14-18 rescue the lost....bring you home – The great gathering of all the true Christian peoples, prophesied more than 40 times, to happen soon after this forthcoming, worldwide fire judgement. They will live in the promised Land, under God’s protection and when the Anti Christ comes to Jerusalem, they are taken to a place of safety until the Return of Jesus.
  6. This post is loaded with supposition and conjecture and totally bereft of proper scriptural support. Just because the armies of heaven wear white linen and the saints do too, in no way does that mean the saints are the angelic army! The Anti-Christ will probably wear white as well. So the Marriage Supper will be on the battlefield? Now this is about the worst interpretation of Bible prophecy I have ever seen. The very idea is so disgusting, I cannot comment further without violating forum rules.
  7. Events before the antichrist appears

    Actual scriptural proof would be good. Exactly where and when will the Marriage Feast of the Lamb take place? I like how you said Benny Hinn was a 'bother of God'.
  8. Rapture vs the 2nd coming

    Judgement begins with the Day of the Lord's wrath, the Sixth Seal. There are at least 7 years + from that worldwide disaster, until Jesus Returns. Explain why the Lord would need to judge the nations after the great Tribulation?
  9. Rapture vs the 2nd coming

    Jesus appears and then He reigns. Go back to 1st grade.
  10. Millennial Day Theory

    We have our own Bibles to read. No need to spam the threads, especially with a translation written in the 16th century. We have Bibles that have the benefit of far more source documents and in our modern English. Its quite wrong to think the 'prince' of Daniel 9:27 is Jesus. That idea simply doesn't fit with what we are told in Revelation 11:2, 13:5-8, 17:10-13
  11. Rapture vs the 2nd coming

    Contextually those 5 verses destroy the rapture to heaven theory: Jesus said: John 3:13 No one has gone up to heaven, except the One who came down from there… Jesus is talking about the things of heaven, truths that apply forever. John 7:33-34…I am going away to Him who sent Me and where I go, you cannot come. A plain statement that also applies forever. John 8:21-23 Again He said: Where I go, you cannot come. You belong to this world below, I to the world above…. Our home is the earth, we are earth people and not spirits and even after the Millennium, those worthy will become immortal, but will still remain on earth. Revelation 21:1-4 John 17:15 I do not pray that You take My people out of this world, but to keep them from the evil one. Jesus was talking to God and what He asked applies to all Christians. Remember: we pray for God’s Kingdom to come on earth as it is in heaven and it will, with the New Jerusalem. Revelation 5:10 You have made them priests for our God and they shall reign on earth. This refers to every faithful Christian, people from every tribe, race, nation and language, they shall reign on earth. That is our destiny, we never go to heaven, only our souls if we are martyred. Revelation 6:9-11
  12. Events before the antichrist appears

    We simply aren't given the information as to where and when the Marriage Supper takes place. Guesswork and speculation on this is foolishness. Humans do not return with Jesus, He said so: Matthew 25:32 Jesus brings the souls of the martyrs with Him and they are brought back to life then. Revelation 20:4
  13. Events before the antichrist appears

    Just because the easily fooled people that you associate with, believe in the fanciful idea of going to live in heaven, do not think others do too. Your statistic of 90% Christians are rapture believers, is just out of your hat and quite wrong. Also there is three main camps: pre; mid, and post rapture and they cannot agree. As you are unable to present any scripture that proves a rapture to heaven, it is you that should cease teaching false doctrines. Take note of James 3:1
  14. Rapture vs the 2nd coming

    Can you show just where I quote scripture out of its context, so it doesn't mean what I have presented? As I said: those verses are plain statements. If you disagree and believe Christians will be taken to heaven, then where is that plain statement?
  15. Rapture vs the 2nd coming

    They are plain statements. If Jesus did intend to take His people to heaven, shouldn't He have said that plainly? People believe in a ‘rapture to heaven’. Where does this idea come from? It isn’t stated anywhere in the Bible and those who promote it must use inferences and assumptions to make verses fit their belief. But when Jesus Himself tells us that such an idea is impossible, then we know it is just a fable, a false theory, like Paul says; will be prevalent in the latter days. 2 Timothy 4:3-4 Jesus said: John 3:13 No one has gone up to heaven, except the One who came down from there… John 7:33-34…I am going away to Him who sent Me and where I go, you cannot come. John 8:21-23 Again He said: Where I go, you cannot come. You belong to this world below, I to the world above…. John 17:15 I do not pray that You take My people out of this world, but to keep them from the evil one. Revelation 5:10 You have made them priests for our God and they shall reign on earth. Evidence enough that people never go to heaven. Only their souls, after death, go back to the One who made them, where they await the Great White Throne Judgement at the end of the Millennium. Revelation 20:11-15 The whole theory of a rapture to heaven contradicts what we are told that the Lord will do for His people; protection during the terrible times ahead. And for those who do stand firm in their faith, who call upon His Name when disaster strikes, there is the promise of tremendous blessings, spiritual and physical to every faithful Christian.
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