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I'm going to repeat what I told someone else here that said the same thing, Oh, because wearing tzitzit, tefillin, and head coverings for wives is SUCH as Jehovah's Witness thing? Or because saying the name of YHWH was the name of the angel, not directly the name of the Father, is SUCH a Jehovah Witness thing even though the whole premise of their religion is the Father's name is "Jehovah"? Clearly you did not understand, if you even read at all. I am not JW, nor have I ever been, and this much is obvious when you compare the teachings on their website, to my own. Just because I agree that consuming blood is sin just as they do does not make me JW. Did the command to abstain from blood originate from them, or did it originate from the command given to Noah recorded in Genesis, and also repeated throughout the Torah, and also by the apostles? Hellur?

No, it proves that THROUGH him is found the resurrection and the life, hence, Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. (John 14:6 [NIV]) Why? Because he is the REPRESENTATION of the Father. We worship the Father by worshiping his representation. By the mercies of God, PLEASE UNDERSTAND!

How does that negate "the FIRST to be born among the dead INTO the new body of glory"?

He's the firstborn from the dead because he is the FIRST to be born among the dead INTO the new body of glory. Firstborn isn't just status, it is being FIRST, in a context. Yes, sometimes the rights of a firstborn son have been given to other sons who were not firstborn, such as Isaac, who was not Abraham's first born son, which was Ishmael. However, we are not dealing with a transference of firstborn rights with Jesus Christ. He is firstborn of creation because he was the FIRST to be born in creation. He is the firstborn of the dead because he is the FIRST TO BE RESURRECTED AMONG THE DEAD INTO THE NEW BODY OF GLORY. Again, you use say these words "firstborn", "son", "representation", "image" interchangeably because you have knowledge of them, but you really do understand what they actually mean.

"You heard me say, 'I am going away and I am coming back to you.' If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I. (John 14:28 [NIV]) Jesus himself affirmed he is lesser. His words, not mine.

Who do you suppose was given a "chief" position in a family according to scripture? Hmmmmmmmmmmm.

I've heard that before. People in your position will call those who actually understand the scriptures "heretics", when it is they themselves who are the heretics who have alienated themselves from the actual teaching of scripture in favor of what they have been taught by their churches. Jesus Christ coming into existence in the beginning is the original teaching of scripture, hence "he is the firstborn of creation" and "the Father is greater than I". It was the catholic church that later on distorted sound teaching by promulgating their teaching of the trinity, which the protestant churches have subsequently borrowed. I have taken enough time out of my day to try to show you with scripture that you are wrong, but if you refuse to come to understanding, that is on you. Bye.

Even if you translate that verse as "make you as a god" as opposed to "make you as God", do you not understand the ramifications of God saying this to Moses, that God will make him a god? Hello?????????? You deliberately miss the whole meaning of that passage, because you want to refuse to understand that God making Moses a god RELATES to God making Jesus Christ a god. "a god", or "AS God", or "LIKE God", whatever you want to call it, it means the SAME THING, where God APPOINTS HIS REPRESENTATION TO ACT ON HIS BEHALF. Jesus Christ did not make himself God, nor has he always existed as God, he was GRANTED authority to be God, BY GOD, no different than Moses was, but in greater authority than Moses, over all heaven and earth. This also relates to why even Adam, who was also made in the REPRESENTATION OF GOD, was subsequently given authority to rule over the entire earth, ...let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth... (Genesis 1:26) Because it relates to being the "image of God", So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. (Genesis 1:27 [ESV]) Where Jesus Christ is also the image of God, The Son is the image of the invisible God... (Colossians 1:15 [NIV]) And because he is just an IMAGE of God, just as Adam was, this implies he too was created, just as Adam was, hence, The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. (Colossians 1:15 [NIV]) He was born first before anyone else came into being. You do not understand how a son relates to a father. A father comes first, then a son, in relation to time, and since the Father never began, then the next order of existence for the firstborn of all creation would be in the beginning. As such, Jesus Christ came into existence in day one of creation. This is the original teaching of scriptures, believe it, or do not. I've argued this enough and shown you ample times that you are wrong.

Which again, as 100% human, it is implied he is finite. Whereas the 100% God aspect of him, does not take away that he is still finite, since he is still man, because we see in scripture EVIDENCES of other men, who are also finite, being MADE AS GOD, Then the LORD said to Moses, "See, I make you as God to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron shall be your prophet. (Exodus 7:1 [NASB]) Because it relates to BEING A REPRESENTATION OF GOD. Do you not know that the rulership of Jesus Christ will one day end? Read, Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. The last enemy to be destroyed is death. For he "has put everything under his feet." Now when it says that "everything" has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all. (1 Corinthians 15:24-28 [NIV]) Currently, Jesus Christ sits AT THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD, but one day he will no longer sit at the right hand of God, because this relates to having LIMITATION AS A REPRESENTATION OF GOD, Of David. A psalm. The LORD says to my lord: "Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet." (Psalm 110:1 [NIV])

There is no "half man" and "half God". Either you are man, or you are God. Either you are finite, or you are infinite. Either you are a representation, or you are not a representation. Christ is God because he is a representation of God, not because he himself is God as the Father is God, and this much is evident because Jesus Christ exhibited limited knowledge, and even mortality, where as the Father has no limit of knowledge, nor does he ever die. Jesus Christ is STILL in subjection to the Father, just as a wife is in subjection to a husband, But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. (1 Corinthians 11:3 [NIV])

Again, you're proving my point. An infinite God NEVER had finite limitations, otherwise he was never "infinite" to begin with. Jesus Christ had limited knowledge not because he descended to earth, but because of the nature of who he is, A REPRESENTATION. Limitations STILL apply to Jesus Christ even after his resurrection, because SUBJECTION RELATES TO LIMITATION, where before and after his resurrection, he is still IN SUBJECTION TO THE FATHER, THE ONE TRUE GOD, hence, Jesus said, "Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'" (John 20:17 [NIV])

He didn't know the hour of his own coming, "But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. (Matthew 24:36 [NIV]) Here you have an example of LIMITED knowledge, which implies FINITE.

A VISUAL representation is FINITE. The VISUAL body of Jesus Christ had a LIMITED amount of cells, which had a LIMITED amount of knowledge, hence why he did not know the hour of his own coming. And this relates to him being a REPRESENTATION of an UNLIMITED and INFINITE GOD. Stop hardening your heart and come to understanding.

You've just proven my point, God never loses authority, nor gains authority, nor does he ever die, BUT A REPRESENTATION DOES. Jesus Christ is the highest representation of God, hence why ALL authority is given to him in EQUAL measure as God, but he himself is a REPRESENTATION of God who is in SUBJECTION to the Father.

No, to disbelieve what the scriptures teach is the heresy. You call me a heretic for believing precisely what the scriptures say? "You heard me say, 'I am going away and I am coming back to you.' If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I. (John 14:28 [NIV]) The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven. (Hebrews 1:3 [NIV]) You can believe anything you want, but you will never get around what these scriptures actually teach, the Father is GREATER than Jesus Christ and that Jesus Christ is a REPRESENTATION of the Father, which relates to why he is called God. It's actually not difficult to understand.

Somehow live humble lives by having little and devote your time in this body to the service of others by doing good works is cultic in relation to the people you just mentioned? All of which was commanded by Jesus Christ and the apostles? No one here has brought "another" gospel, I have simply presented the actual gospel found in the scriptures, which contradicts the "other" gospels many have. This is why I have made it such a point to have very few words of my own in my studies, and simply let the scriptures speak for themselves when I quote them extensively throughout my studies. The gospels teach, "sell your possessions...", and the early assemblies "sold their possessions and properties", and this is precisely what I have slapped unto my Statement of Faith, because it is found in this one gospel given by the apostles. Simply because I actually believe and listen to the scriptures, which puts me in a minority, does not make me wrong for being in a minority, for since when has what the majority believe ever been an indicator of truth? "Few are chosen, many called", "The Israelites have rejected your covenant, torn down your altars, and put your prophets to death with the sword. I am the only one left, and now they are trying to kill me too.", "So too, at the present time there is a remnant chosen by grace." Now, if you are hesitant in believing that I am of this remnant, then do yourself a favor and look at the very scriptures I have quoted to indicate I am right. If I am wrong, let the scriptures indicate I am wrong, not what your churches have taught you. But if I am right, are you willing to forsake your churches for the sake of the truth? Maybe, maybe not.... it's very difficult for people to leave their tradition and everything they've been indoctrinated with. The saying is true, "its difficult to teach an old dog new tricks".

I have not denied the truth behind this statement, "In the begining was the Word and the Word was With God and Was God", for I have asserted, Jesus Christ existed in the beginning, hence "In the begininng was the Word...". Jesus Christ was thus with God, since we just asserted he existed in the beginning, hence "...the Word was With God...". And Jesus Christ existed AS God, just as the Father is God, because he is the "REPRESENTATION" of God, hence "...Was God". Being AS God does not mean being God, it means REPRESENTING God, which is why Moses was told, "see I have made you AS God to Pharaoh....", again, relating to REPRESENTATION, not that Moses himself was the Father. If you cannot understand representation, which is also called the "image of God", then you cannot understand how someone can be appointed to be God, while not actually being God. An example would be a vice president and president in a company, while the vice president exercises all authority on BEHALF of the president, in REPRESENTATION of the president, he himself is NOT the president, and HIS AUTHORITY is not only GIVEN BY THE PRESIDENT, BUT IT CAN ALSO BE TAKEN AWAY BY THE PRESIDENT.

Its a Statement of Faith, its supposed to be "all over the place", hence why it is called a "Statement of Faith". I have broken down each statement into various studies. You're more than welcome to pick any point, and we can discuss.

Oh, because wearing tzitzit, tefillin, and head coverings for wives is SUCH as Jehovah's Witness thing? Or because saying the name of YHWH was the name of the angel, not directly the name of the Father, is SUCH a Jehovah Witness thing even though the whole premise of their religion is the Father's name is "Jehovah"? Clearly you did not understand, if you even read at all. I am not JW, nor have I ever been, and this much is obvious when you compare the teachings on their website, to my own. Just because I agree that consuming blood is sin just as they do does not make me JW. Did the command to abstain from blood originate from them, or did it originate from the command given to Noah recorded in Genesis, and also repeated throughout the Torah, and also by the apostles? Hellur?

Does it matter what "this" is for the truth to be spoken? Again, stop your grumbling.

I'm not going to stop preaching to the truth, I took the time to condense much of what I know into a statement of faith, if even this is way too long for you, as opposed to giving you an entire study to cover just one point, then that is your problem. I find that people that complain just simply don't like what they're being told, whether its one sentence, or many sentences. Always something.

Then don't read. Shrugs.

Who are you to criticize the Law that is perfect? The law of the LORD is perfect, refreshing the soul. The statutes of the LORD are trustworthy, making wise the simple. (Psalm 19:7 [NIV]) That even Paul says is good? So then, the law is holy, and the commandment is holy, righteous and good. (Romans 7:12 [NIV]) Whoever discards the Law is LAWLESS, Greek word "anomia" (without the Law of Moses), and we know what will happen to the lawless, And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’ (Matthew 7:23 [ESV]) Hear, you earth: I am bringing disaster on this people, the fruit of their schemes, because they have not listened to my words and have rejected my law. (Jeremiah 6:19 [NIV]) He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination. (Proverbs 28:9 [KJV]) Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the LORD Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel. Therefore the LORD’s anger burns against his people; his hand is raised and he strikes them down. The mountains shake, and the dead bodies are like refuse in the streets. Yet for all this, his anger is not turned away, his hand is still upraised. (Isaiah 5:24-25 [NIV]) Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 5:19 [NIV]) “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. (Matthew 5:17 [NIV]) For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. (Matthew 5:18 [NIV]) It is easier for heaven and earth to disappear than for the least stroke of a pen to drop out of the Law. (Luke 16:17 [NIV])

We do not kill the lawless because it is not the appointed time to do so. When Jesus Christ comes, then will be the time for the lawless to be captured, and thrown into fire to to killed as the Law requires, putting to death whoever sins. This relates to why Paul says, "we are all worthy of death", but because God is merciful, we are not put to death as the Law requires. We are not treated as our sins deserve. And yes, the command concerning edging a beard is still valid, as well as every single command of the Law, hence, Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 5:19 [NIV])

Where do you suppose the commands of "love the Lord your God" and "Love your neighbor as yourself" come from? From the Torah. All commands of the Law hang on these two commands, which means that if you discard any command, then you are no longer in love by which that command hangs on.