3 hours ago, Cobalt1959 said:

Stating something that is true is in no way name-calling.  Replacement Theology is ant-Semitic.  There is no other way to describe it.  It steals something from the Jews that belongs to them, exclusively, and attempts to give it to another group.  One can believe that if they want, but it still isn't going to actually happen.

I've seen some bogus theories as to who the Beast is, but Israel's government as the Beast is perhaps the dumbest theory I have seen so far.

Satan sure made fools out of a lot of people.

http://biblehub.com/john/8-44.htm

Nothing new under the sun.

3 hours ago, Cobalt1959 said:

Stating something that is true is in no way name-calling.  Replacement Theology is ant-Semitic.  There is no other way to describe it.  It steals something from the Jews that belongs to them, exclusively, and attempts to give it to another group.  One can believe that if they want, but it still isn't going to actually happen.

I've seen some bogus theories as to who the Beast is, but Israel's government as the Beast is perhaps the dumbest theory I have seen so far.

Satan sure made fools out of a lot of people.

4 hours ago, shiloh357 said:

This is a load of garbage.   The Israeli government is not the beast.   The beast is the Antichrist.  

Do you even know what an antichrist is?

According to scripture,an antichrist is someone who denys Christ.Someone who says the messiah has not come yet.

That accounts for the majority of the people in israel,The Knesset, and the rest of that goverment.If they accepted Christ they would call themselves Christian or messianic.If they reject Jesus,they are antichrist.

That is the biblical antichrist but you have probably been taught something else.

30 minutes ago, shiloh357 said:

Yeah, that is some really bad exegesis.   Matt. 21:43 pertains to the Kingdom being taken from the religious leadership.    Israel isn't taken away from Israel.  That is nonsense.   The vineyard parable has the Kingdom of Israel as the vineyard and the wicked husbandmen representing the Pharisees.  The text even says that the Pharisees understood correctly that Jesus was speaking about them. 

So you have that all wrong.   The Christians were not given Israel.  The Bible says nothing of the sort.

Scripture,shows the kingdom will be taken from the beast and given to the saints.

23 minutes ago, shiloh357 said:

No, those are not cold hard facts.   It is racist, anti-Semitic garbage produced by sloppy, incompetent handling of Scripture. 

And that's how the supporters of the beast always react when confronted with the truth.

Name calling.

32 minutes ago, Yowm said:

There is not one shred of evidence pointing to the claim that the present Israeli govt. is the Beast.

You go ahead and keep believing that if you want.

According to God,who is Israel?

http://biblehub.com/exodus/4-22.htm

If israel is the son of God as God has declared,then who is this reigning from Jerusalem calling himself Israel?

15 minutes ago, Yowm said:

Either way, give some scriptures which back your assertion.

I already have In this thread .Go ahead and prove the scripture i,posted is wrong then I will give you,more proof.

26 minutes ago, Yowm said:

Where in the world Scriptures do you see that?

Which ones do i not see it would be easier.

1 hour ago, Yowm said:

The Scriptures indicate that they would return to the Land in unbelief (otherwise why would they enter into a Covenant with Death? sparking the 7 yr trib). In unbelief...no one is saying the Israeli govt. is made up of angelic beings lol. But  God will turn many hearts of the Jews back to Himself as we are already beginning to see some of that happening through the Messianic movement in Israel.

And those who are chosen Will not worship the beast or receive his mark.Many of those messianic Israelis will die for their testimony ,they will be resurrected and Israel will reign with Christ for 1000 years in,peace.

As for the Israeli government.It is the beast.

30 minutes ago, Last Daze said:

I'm not so sure that the whole world was astonished and wondered after Israel when they supposedly "came up out of the abyss", but you're entitled to your views.

Facts?  No, facts are as God declares them.  What you stated is your opinion based on your perception.  The best we can hope to do is to align our perception of reality with what God declares to be true.  Don't get stuck in a rut.

No.This past history is fact.

The nation that calls itself Israel once existed,but did not exist at the time John wrote revelation,and yet it does now.

The world was astonished and wanderd who's names are not written in the lambs book of life when they beheld the nation that calls itself Israel .

They followed it from all over the world.Peoples,multitudes,nations and languages.

http://biblehub.com/revelation/17-15.htm

This is now and it is a common known fact.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Israel

(ethnic and religious groups)

There are many other facts you are unaware of.

http://biblehub.com/revelation/17-8.htm

17 hours ago, Keras said:

In no way is the Israeli government of the Jewish State of Israel, or are 99% of the people, who God wants in His holy Land.  

Read Isaiah 3:1-26 for what will happen to them very soon. This fate is reiterated in many other prophesies.  The Land will be cleared and cleansed of all the ungodly peoples, only a remnant of the Messianic Jews will survive in Jerusalem. Isaiah 29:1-4   Then a people who bear the proper fruit, Matthew 21:42, every faithful Christian; will migrate into all of the holy Land. WE will be the people whom God always wanted in His Land, His witnesses, Isaiah 43:10 and the Light to the nations. Isaiah 49:8

Great will be the Day!  Romans 9:24-26

I agree 100 percent.But you need to realize who and what they are that are there now.

Who is their king?

http://biblehub.com/amos/5-26.htm

8 minutes ago, Last Daze said:

Rome, as it was manifested in the natural realm, was still in power.  True.  But the evil angel which spawned Rome was already cast into the abyss and "was not" when John wrote Revelation.

You have to give greater consideration to what goes on in the spiritual realm, because what we see here on earth is in effect caused by what happens there.  It's how the legs of iron and the feet of iron and clay of Daniel 2 can be considered as the fourth kingdom and exist nearly two thousand years apart from each other.  They have the same spiritual source, the beast with 10 horns.

Actually ,when John wrote revelation.The nation that calls itself Israel was not.And yet it is.The world was astonished (who's names are not written in the lambs book of life)when,they beheld it,and wanders after it.

These are facts.Cold hard facts and there are many just like them.

http://www.israeltoday.co.il/NewsItem/tabid/178/nid/24635/Default.aspx

Why does the king of the Jews want a cashless society?How will he be able to keep up with all the buying and selling?

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/PositiveID-Corporation-pz-3900073790.html

Why do you suppose the king of the Jews would want such a mark for his people?

Who's his guinea pig?Is he placing his mark in their foreheads?

2 minutes ago, Last Daze said:

Here:

• And they will fall by the edge of the sword, and will be led captive into all the nations; and Jerusalem will be trampled under foot by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.  Luke 21:24

Yes, it is a very significant sign.  It indicates that the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

This can't be a reference to Revelation 17:8.  Israel did not come up out of the abyss.  The beast did and he is an evil angel, the same evil angel that spawned Rome.

Not rome,for when John wrote revelation he said it "now is not".

The world thought it was dead and yet it is.

http://biblehub.com/luke/13-28.htm

2000 years ago , the tenants of the promised land had the heir of the promised land killed.Today the children of those tenants claim it to be their own and claim,it shall always belong to that government that calls itself Israel.

What is the Israeli government referd to in scripture?

The nation that once was , and was not,and yet is?

Is Benjamin Netanyahu king of the Jews ?

Is he sent into the world to lead God's chosen people or is the Israeli government something else all together?

According to scripture.what is it?

3 hours ago, FresnoJoe said:

 

His Name

“Also I will restore the captivity of My people Israel, And they will rebuild the ruined cities and live in them; They will also plant vineyards and drink their wine, And make gardens and eat their fruit. “I will also plant them on their land, And they will not again be rooted out from their land Which I have given them,” Says the LORD your God. Amos 9:14-15 (New American Standard Bible)

Is Jesus

Therefore speak to them: Thus saith the Lord God: I will gather you from among the peoples, and assemble you out of the countries wherein you are scattered, and I will give you the land of Israel. Ezekiel 11:17 (Douay-Rheims Bible)

Love, Your Brother Joe

So you believe Christ has come and have gatherd the dispersed of Israel .

Do you believe Christ came in 1948?

http://biblehub.com/luke/13-28.htm

If Christ hasn't come and gatherd Israel into his land then who is this that came before Christ ,who all the world has followed?From all nations tongues and peoples.

If Christ has not come than who is it that these people have followed into the promised land?

7 hours ago, Keras said:

In no way is the Israeli government of the Jewish State of Israel, or are 99% of the people, who God wants in His holy Land.  

Read Isaiah 3:1-26 for what will happen to them very soon. This fate is reiterated in many other prophesies.  The Land will be cleared and cleansed of all the ungodly peoples, only a remnant of the Messianic Jews will survive in Jerusalem. Isaiah 29:1-4   Then a people who bear the proper fruit, Matthew 21:42, every faithful Christian; will migrate into all of the holy Land. WE will be the people whom God always wanted in His Land, His witnesses, Isaiah 43:10 and the Light to the nations. Isaiah 49:8

Great will be the Day!  Romans 9:24-26

Your talking about things In the future.How about the present or even the past.

Israel once existed ,then it did not for nearly 2000 years and yet it is .When Israel reappeared the world was astonished and those who's names are not written in the lambs book of life followed after it.

Surely there must be something written of this.This is the single biggest sign in 2000 years.

So where is it written?

5 hours ago, Psalms37:4 said:

ISRAELI OFFICIAL: IF IRAN EXPANDS IN SYRIA, WE'LL BOMB ASSAD'S PALACE

http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Israeli-Official-If-Iran-extends-in-Syrian-well-bomb-Assads-palace-503597

 

Israel Threatens To Bomb Assad's Presidential Palace

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-29/israel-threatens-bomb-assads-presidential-palace

 

Isaiah 17:1-4 Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)

17 This is a message about Damascus:

“Damascus is now a city, but it will be destroyed.
    Only ruined buildings will be left there.
² People will leave the cities of Aroer.
    Flocks of sheep will wander freely in those empty towns;
    there will be no one to bother them.
³ The fort cities of Ephraim will be destroyed.
    The government in Damascus will be finished.
Those left in Aram will lose everything,
    just like the people of Israel,” says the Lord All-Powerful.

⁴ “At that time Jacob’s wealth will all be gone.
    Yes, Israel will be like a sick man who has become weak and thin.

 

 

 

Ok.So Damascus will be destroyed by someone of something according to scripture.Now can we talk about the Israeli government that now rules over the Jewish people?

There is more written about the Israeli government at the time of the end than Syrian goverment or all the surrounding countries.Why did Jesus single out Israelis as  the recipient of wrath during God's vengeance?Are the leaders of the Jewish people in Israel leading as God wants them to lead?

2 hours ago, Psalms37:4 said:

So are all these places.  So what's your point?

• Afula
• ʿAkko
• ʿArad
• Ashdod
• Ashqelon
• Bat Yam
• Beersheba
• Bet Sheʾan
• Bet Sheʿarim
• Bnei Brak
• Caesarea
• Dimona
• Dor
• Elat
• ʿEn Gedi
• Givʿatayim
• H̱adera
• Haifa
• Herzliyya
• H̱olon
• Jerusalem
• Karmiʾel
• Kefar Sava
• Lod
• Meron
• Nahariyya
• Nazareth
• Netanya
• Petaẖ Tiqwa
• Qiryat Shemona
• Ramat Gan
• Ramla
• Reẖovot
• Rishon LeẔiyyon
• Sedom
• Tel Aviv–Yafo
• Tiberias
• Ẕefat

 

The battle of Armageddon is the prophecy of the final battle before Christ's return which is what we've been talking till you decided to strawman.

This Is Where The Final Battle Of Armageddon Will Be Fought

MEGIDDO — Situated here at the foot of Israel's Mount Megiddo, the valley pictured below is believed by many Christians to be the site of the Battle of Armageddon, the final fight of End Times before the Second Coming of Jesus. 

http://www.businessinsider.com/battle-armageddon-israel-evangelical-christians-2013-1

 

This place goes by the same name as described in the bible.  

Zechariah 12:11 King James Version (KJV)

¹¹ In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon.

 

2 Chronicles 35:22 King James Version (KJV)

²² Nevertheless Josiah would not turn his face from him, but disguised himself, that he might fight with him, and hearkened not unto the words of Necho from the mouth of God, and came to fight in the valley of Megiddo.

 

You don't need to know all that to know about prophecy, which is something you don't seem to get if you think Israel will be involved in the battle of Armageddon.

Nor do you know about Israel's future or the Israelis' since you definitely don't know when the 144,000 gets seal.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you understood The battle of Armageddon, you would know about the Israeli government who rules there.

http://biblehub.com/luke/21-23.htm

There is more written about the Israeli government and its people during the time of the end than any other people.

Why is God wroth with the Israel is during the time of his vengeance?

Why did Jesus say it would be more tolerable for cities in Lebanon than for cities in Israel during the time of judgement?

Does anyone understand who this goverment is that claims to be Israel?

1 hour ago, Psalms37:4 said:

You're the one saying "Israel has nothing to do with armagedon.Lol" not me.

Here's what I said:

On 11/9/2017 at 12:42 AM, Psalms37:4 said:

Israel's next war is not Armageddon. We're not even in the tribulation yet. In fact, Israel isn't even involved in Armageddon.

 

Armageddon is located in the Valley of Megiddo.

Can't you do anything right? LOL

 

 

 

 

Armageddon is located in,israel.

And israel is involved in Armageddon more than any other country.

You obviously don't know much about Israel.It's goverment,or the people who serve it.