Mary8

Wonderful lists.  I had never seen the complete list of numbers.

 

There is some excellent advice here by others.  Demons don't like to hear praise to the Lord, or about the Blood of Jesus.  Remember the verse, Resist the devil and he will flee from you, and this applies to the demons too.  They are going to the lake of fire.   Satan will be bound with chains and put in a bottomless pit soon now, and after the millenium Satan will be put into the lake of fire too. I hope you will keep us updated.     

P.S.  MarilynC is so right.  Repent and also will to forgive the person that introduced you to this which has caused you so much suffering. 

During troubled times decades ago I saw and have hoped in this psalm.

Psalm 74:22  Arise, O God, plead Thine own cause....  

22Arise, O God, plead thine own cause: remember how the foolish man reproacheth thee daily.  23Forget not the voice of thine enemies: the tumult of those that rise up against thee increaseth continually.

 

I love seeking Christ typology.   

I would like to add, "The mighty God."

 

I got tired of losing earrings, so I pierced my ears myself as a teen.  It was not easy, and took a while.   After many decades, I would recommend not piercing too low on the ear lobe.    

The everlasting Father.

Luke 16:23And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

24And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

25But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.

26And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.

27Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:

28For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.

Hi Farouk,

I used to read Psalms on and on and came to love so many of them.  I can't think of specific favorites.  I do want to mention Psalm 67.   As I read it, at one point (it was 1967) I felt the Lord would give me music, melody to go with it.  It came in a minor key, and how it helped me to remember that Psalm.  God be merciful to us and bless us   And make His face to shine upon us Selah  That Thy way may be known, throughout all of the earth, Thy saving health to all the nations Selah.   

Yes, it is Psalm 91.  I heard that soldiers in the 1991 Gulf War were memorizing this psalm, so I was able to do so.   It is such a blessing.  

On 8/23/2023 at 8:27 PM, JohnD said:

Covid tests negative.

Xrays for cardiovascular symptoms check out okay.

But still she has weariness, light-headedness especially when standing, 

dizziness and feeling faint, and needs to sleep alot.

This has been going on for months.

We are to the point of going to the Mayo Clinic... 

Please pray for my Beloved Bride to be healed completely in the name of Yeshua the Messiah, Amen!

I am in my eighties, generally good health, and 2 years ago I kept having weakness in my legs, light headedness, shakiness.  sleeping is definitely beneficial for me. I don't take meds, just supplements.  (I was climbing a hill 10 or more times, several times a week.) 

After days of this August 2021, I called the emergency squad.   I was told all vitals were normal, and that the diagnosis was anxiety.  I said, Really?   The doctor said anxiety can manifest in a lot of ways.  I accepted that it was anxiety, and got better. 

It returned this summer. 

My sons live far away.  One came in early July and I got better during the 9 days he was here. 

Then after a few weeks, the  other son came for over a week and again, eating well, getting out,  I got better.   

I hope this helps. 

I believe I am seeing ways to cope better, rest in the Lord during these difficult times.

 

Yes, it is idolatry.   God gave us one mediator we can talk to, who hears us, our Lord Jesus.

I Timothy 2:5  For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;..

On July 26, 2023, the Fast of 9th of Av begins in the evening at sundown and goes through July 27.

Two Jewish temples were destroyed on the day of the 9th of Av. It is a day that the Lord has emphasized by those two events.

This fast marks the end of the harvest of grain, the wheat that was planted in the spring. (One wheat crop is planted in the autumn and winters over and is harvested in spring about Pentecost.)  Jesus said "four months" and then cometh the harvest.  John 4:35.

Should the Rapture occur around that time of Tish b'Av, some Jewish people might realize that it would be the fulfillment of Scripture,

Jeremiah 8:20  The harvest is past, the summer is ended, and we are not saved.

Three verses prior:  Jeremiah 8:17 For, behold, I will send serpents, cockatrices, among you, which will not be charmed, and they shall bite you, saith the LORD.

That would fulfil what Jesus said in

Matthew 23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
I looked to see to whom Jesus was saying this. 7 times in Mathew 23 Jesus spells it out: "scribes and Pharisees."

My heart is heavy that Jeremiah's words in 8:20 point to the time when all who have not received Christ will realize "summer is ended and we are not saved." Soon they will face the Tribulation.

I had not noticed until about July 16 that Jeremiah has a prophecy that the Lord said that serpents will be sent and bite, nor that Jesus was pointing to the fulfillment by His words in Matthew.

Praying that the eyes of Jesus' people will see that Jesus is the remedy for the snake's bite, like Nehushtan, the bronze serpent on the pole that when looked at cured the snake bite in the days of Moses. Jesus was made to be sin for us. Also, how this would point to the fact that the believers in Jesus are the temples of God.

2 Corinthians 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

5 hours ago, Marathoner said:

The perfect has yet to come, so there's no scriptural basis for the cessation of the gifts of the Spirit. God does as He pleases; He answers to no man or woman and moves as He wills. It's important to remember that the gifts of the Lord are His to give as He pleases, thus they are not our own to do as we see fit. 

After the Spirit of the Lord came and reversed the illness which nearly took my life, He remained with me. During the years of my recovery His Spirit taught me how to speak and reason again. It was during this time that the Lord taught me to listen to His voice. I marvel at the manifest wisdom of God for there was no better time for me to learn than while my mind was a chaotic mess. I experienced great difficulty focusing but the voice of His Spirit was always the same: calm and peaceful like still waters. 

When my healing was complete according to His promise, Christ lifted me up and baptized me with His Spirit. It was like a great wind of fire washing over me, and in that moment I was changed.

At no time did I ask the Lord for gifts, CaptWalker. I heard the words of the Lord and He spoke of things which would come to pass; in this way I learned first-hand that the Son of God is faithful and true for I witnessed the fulfillment of His words with these eyes. 

Christ promised that I would never walk in darkness again. It pleases Him to reveal His will as He sees fit:  when the Lord sent me to this city, He spoke of everything that would come to pass before I set foot on the property where I work. The Lord said I would find favor in their midst, and that He would give me a place to rest my head for a while. 

Every word from the mouth of God is fulfilled. Every one.     

What a marvelous testimony.  What a wonderful Lord!  

Yes, I did mean the Old Testament.   I just love these verses as well as all of the New Testament promises which I believe point to a Pre-Trib Rapture, and that we are to wait, to watch for and expect His coming for us.  Sorry I overlooked the responses and questions.  I don't know my way around the site well.

Matthew 24:42 - Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

On 4/2/2021 at 7:11 AM, SONshine said:

The Day of the Lord doesn't come upon everyone as a thief in the night.  So, if you do watch and take heed, He will not come to you as a thief.  Watch watchman watch. 

Four times these verses say watch.

Mark 13:33Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is.  34For the Son of man is as a man taking a far journey, who left his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work, and commanded the porter to watch. 35Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning: 36Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping.  37And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.

I really like this verse too:

Wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.   1 Thessalonians 1:10 

 

Praying.

16 hours ago, DeighAnn said:

If the dying of the flesh body makes alive the spirit body,  and you say only the 'spirit' goes on to heaven, then where is that spirit body till the Lord returns? 


that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die 
SO once the flesh dies, SOME BODY is made alive.  Now, I personally do not see a separation of time here. 

But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen 
I also believe that Christ can not rise without all those who have died rising. (l liken it to the 'law of gravity'.  God works through laws.  

It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption
Once again, it is sown, it is raised.  Where is this TIME span found written?

It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body.
AGAIN, IT is written without any mention of a 'time in between'

There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
AND there are two bodies

...and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
THAT SLEPT, is past tense (as I see it)

And this always gets me, 

 

Revelation 21:10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,

Revelation 21:11 Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;


Revelation 22:8 And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things.

Revelation 22:9 Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.

Now maybe you can understand my confusion on this subject, in which I seem to stand with a tiny number, by believing that GOD gave us the two bodies and in one or the other we shall always be.  

Many say "just the soul/spirit" goes on then when Christ returns something happens and they go get their old body which is made into a new one at that time or something like that and then I guess they raise back up and then maybe the wrath of God is poured out and I wont even get to those who have been vaporized, or cremated (do they all go to a cremation part of the world for theirs?)   What about those who died in SPACE?  i stop.  

but what I can't figure out and no body seems to be able to tell is WHY?  Why don't we immediately use the body, the celestial body, the heavenly body GOD gave us AS SOON as it is needed?  Why wouldn't God just have us raise in that body?  Do some raise in the body like the 'fellow servant' but others not?  Doesn't that seem to put alot happening when Christ returns when it would just be so natural to have it done automatically upon death of the flesh and not when those who have taken the mark of the beast have to be dealt with and right after that those who are alive and remaining and who is it those who are alive and remaining meet in the air if everyone is out looking for their 'body that needs to be resurrected?.  

I know this is alot of questions and you don't have to answer a single one.  I am just hoping someone can tell me WHERE this belief comes from and what is the purpose of it.  It just seems to be so confusing and chaotic and UN necessary when such a simple solution is just right there.  We go to be with the Lord, He brings us back, those who are alive and remain are changed and meet us in the air.  

And, this maybe isn't the time or place but then again MAYBE,  just maybe it is.  

(I figured it out cause I was thinking this is alot for someone I have not chatted with before but I think you are the first person who has acknowledged there was a CHANGE between the before and after of CHRISTS WORK.  So maybe it is.)  

  

That was all from the article about "Eternity..."    I hope it may be useful, but some of it I may not understand or agree with. 

I believe I've seen some commentators indicate that paradise was emptied when Christ ascended.   

I do believe those of us who are raptured will get a new body and be with Christ.  The dead in Christ will get a new body.

These notes in my other response I felt helped clear this all up for me:

 Phillipians 1:   to depart and be with Christ, for that is very much better;”

 

2 Cor. 5:6-8. “Therefore, being always of good courage, and knowing that while we are at home in the body we are absent from the Lord, 7 for we walk by faith, not by sight, 8 we are of good courage, I say, and prefer rather to be absent from the body and to be at home with the Lord.”

So I believe that when we die we go to be with the Lord.   The dead in Christ are with Him in heaven.      

From a sermon, "Eternity: What Awaits After Death."  Name of preacher is not on the article.

"In the Old Testament when a believer died, their bodies went into the grave and their soul and spirit went to Paradise. But when Jesus died on the cross, was buried and he rose again, on the day of his ascension something changed.

In Ephesians 4:8-10 we are told,

'Therefore He says, ‘When he ascended on high He lead captivity captive And gave gifts to men. (9) Now this, ‘He ascended’ – what does it mean but that He first descended into the lower parts of the earth. (10) He who descended is also the One who ascended far above all the heavens, that He might fill all things.'

This passage says that Jesus descended into Hades and he lead captivity captive, he emptied Paradise and took all the believing dead with him to the third heaven. There is no longer an intermediate Heaven; Christ took all the Old Testament saints and all those believers to Heaven. Now when a believer dies their body goes into the grave to await the resurrection and their soul and spirit go to be with the Lord in Heaven."

On 2/4/2021 at 12:44 AM, R. Hartono said:

Prophet Daniel was promised of his inheritance (heaven) at the end of days, there is no taking of his soul by Jesus at His 3rd day resurrection, as the end of days will begin with the return of Jesus Christ far away in the future unknown to Daniel.

Daniel 12:13 "As for you, go your way till the end. You will rest, and then at the end of the days you will RISE to receive your allotted inheritance."

When will Daniel RISE ? Its explained by Paul in 1 Thes 4:16 For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will RISE first. ¹⁷ Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds

Jesus told the prisoner crucified beside Him that he shall be with Christ to enter paradise part of sheol (not heaven), the place where the poor Lazarus is comforted in Abraham's bosom.

Luke 23:43 : “Truly I say to you, today you shall be with Me in Paradise. (greek : paradeiso)

When Lord Jesus open the scroll circa 90 AD in heaven above (not in paradise) the souls of the saints are still under the earth

Rev. 5:3 ³ But no one in heaven or on earth or UNDER THE EARTH (paradise part of Sheol) could open the scroll.....

Some take conclusion that when Jesus was resurrected He also took the souls of saints from Sheol/Paradise based on this verse :

Ephesians 4:8 This is why it says: “When He ascended on high, He led captives away, and gave gifts to men.”

But captives here means the captivity of sins being broken by the praching of Gospel by Jesus as He confirmed it in Luke 4:18 ....to preach deliverance to the CAPTIVES.......

Thats why its followed by "and gave gifts to men" for the preaching of Gospel as God gave gifts to build up His church in  1 Peter 4:10  As each one has received a special gift, employ it in serving one another as good stewards of the manifold grace of God, also 1 Cor 12:4 Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit.

The souls descended into paradeiso is no longer in captivity of sin but they have been freed and awaiting the day of the Lord with the sound of Trumpet at the end of days. Paradeiso is the place of comfort and only the souls of good people entered it and are rewarded.

Apostles and angels were only witnessing Jesus raised to heaven, not carrying the resurrected saints from paradise with Him.

Acts 1:11 “Men of Galilee,” they said, “why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen Him go into heaven.”

The holy people who were raised after Jesus resurrection were not taken with Jesus Christ otherwise it shall be written by the apostles who witnessed His ascension, they were probably be buried again after being used by God to show His power and the same with prophet Daniel they are now resting until the end of days for the sound of Trumpet to the mighty celebration of the glorious Feast of the Lamb, otherwise they wud see Abraham, Daniel, Joshua, Samuel, Elias etc departed to heaven with Jesus.

Matt 27:52 The bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life. ⁵³ They came out of the tombs after Jesus’ resurrection and went into the holy city and appeared to many people

Jesus spoke about all souls of saints in paradise whose bodies are still in their graves, they are waiting there n  will listen to His voice when the time is due in the end of days.

John 5:28 Do not be amazed at this, for the hour is coming when all who are in their graves will hear His voice

As Paul said it, paradise is not the destination place for captivity but of victory.                             

2 Tim 4:7  I hv fought a good fight, i hv finished the race.....             

Yet all saints must wait a little while in the beautiful paradise until Lord is revealed from heaven (the harvest) :

2 Thes 1:5... and as a result you will be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you are suffering. ....THIS WILL HAPPEN WHEN THE LORD JESUS IS REVEALED FROM HEAVEN in blazing fire with his powerful angels.              

This is about the Harvest, there is no individual soul harvested to heaven but the mass harvest taken to heaven at the end of times (1 Thes 4:16)

Matt 13:³⁰ Let both grow together until the harvest...........               

                 

I like the following verses:

Phil. 1:21-23. “For to me, to live is Christ, and to die is gain. 22 But if I am to live on in the flesh, this will mean fruitful labor for me; and I do not know which to choose. 23 But I am hard-pressed from both directions, having the desire to depart and be with Christ, for that is very much better;”

 

2 Cor. 5:6-8. “Therefore, being always of good courage, and knowing that while we are at home in the body we are absent from the Lord, 7 for we walk by faith, not by sight, 8 we are of good courage, I say, and prefer rather to be absent from the body and to be at home with the Lord.”

On 1/20/2021 at 4:09 AM, plavious said:

Belove is the lord,  last night, I had a terrible dream that I got up sweating and tired. Last night, I found myself fighting a snake.  The snake ran in the a hole under my bed. I struggled and cut the tail but finally killed it and cut the head. Since I got up from sleep, am scared of my room,  when anything touched me especially my leg, I will jump i fear.

Pray for me

Plavious 

I'm praying for you brother.  That dream spells victory!  You are fighting the enemy, and he is ever near trying to defeat you, but you are fighting, you are making headway, and you got the victory!    I think the Lord will restore your peace in your room, and He is there with you, always.    

I once had a nervous breakdown, just got so fearful, that day I was taken to the hospital, and it only got worse by evening, the fears.   Then as I was still so troubled, but calmed, trying to sort things out, it was broken!   There on the floor I saw a great head, of a boa constrictor, and I noticed that its eyes seemed to be glazing over, then I realized its head is severed!  The Lord has the victory over our enemy.  I got better over the next ten or so days, that January.  A friend came to see me and talked, and was such a blessing, then she said, Oh, wow!  I see two angels, one standing on your bed, one standing beside your bed!   And then I got over all the distress, and knew I would be going home, and that is what happened!   

So praying for you now, today, Sunday too.

I'm praying for you and your wife, JohnD.   May the Lord bless your spiritual lives, and give you encouragements each day.  May He heal you both and restore your strength.  May He give you both even greater trust and joy and expression and witness for Him.