Robert.A

On 8/11/2019 at 10:55 AM, other one said:

Ex 12:12

12 For I will pass through the land of Egypt this night, and will smite all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgment: I am the Lord.
KJV
Just one of many

yes sorry i was wrong.. Elohim is not his name it is the identification that there is more than one.  So yes i apoligise.

yes must have love and whatever other gift God gives.  not instead of the Gift. but with 

jsut read the bill.  WOW , Just WOW.

I guess finally the Church will have a decision to make . Do we stand up and continue to preach the truth, or do we accept the sexually depraved into our midst and not ask for repentance.

I guess some churches are already doign this as they Preach once saved always saved, so no need for anyone to change. Some churches are accepting gay marriage, some churches even have gay ministers.

Hallelujah we finally will get to see who are the real christians

1 minute ago, Jostler said:

I  think that's an arguable point, so I hate to be dogmatic, but notice that in parables, in no other case I am aware of does He use a proper name.  Given that, and His use of Lazarus to specifically identify a real person, I believe this was a real event He was describing in this case.

Your mileage may vary

Lazerus was a common name. But i see no evidence other than your suggestion that it real life.  

but each to their own i guess.

1 minute ago, Jostler said:

only one.  But there IS  a mystery to unravel here.  In the natural order, women do  not HAVE seed, they contribute eggs to the process of procreation....it's very  interesting that God prefigured His whole plan in this first reference to redemption, and did so in a way  satan couldn't figure  out.....

yo mean Eggs are not SEED.  Why not?

In actuality men only contribute millions of SPERM. 

So it takes both to make it grow.  The same occurs in a plant, the flower needs to be pollenated to make the SEED

It not a SEED until after both become one in the womb.

1 minute ago, Jostler said:

The story of Lazarus told beginning  in Luke 16:20 gives some pretty strong support to your position.  Jesus wen  to Hades and evidently at that time  there was a place VISIBLE from Hades where the righteous dead were "comforted" in the bosom of Abraham.  The thief would have been taken there, while Jesus' suffering  all that death means for our sake would logically have been observable to the thief.

umm i thought that was a parable,  only a story, not an exact retelling

so Eves Seed is Different to ADAMS seed..

Hmmm how many husbands did EVE have

5 hours ago, Retrobyter said:

Shalom, Robert.A.

Yes, I know. However, it's not a lie to understand that, from the thief's perspective, it WOULD still be "today" when he would be resurrected. After all, the thief died very soon after having his legs broken. He would close his eyes in "sleep" and open them, immediately for him, in the Messiah's Kingdom.

Remember, too, that the word "paradise," a transliteration of the Greek word "paradeisos" which in turn was a transliteration of the Hebrew word "pardeec" (pronounced "par-DACE"), simply means a "park of trees" or an "orchard." And, while Yochanan (John) associates "the paradise of God" with the future New Jerusalem, ANY such "park of trees" would qualify as a "paradeisos/pardeec/park."

In God's Kingdom in Israel, over which the Mashiyach Yeshua` shall reign as Melekh ("King"), any such garden He shall choose for Himself shall be the King's Park, and since the man was crucified with Yeshua` just outside the Old City of Jerusalem's walls, his burial location is somewhat near. Indeed, the foot of Har-HaZeitiym (the Mount of Olives) was a burial site, and the Garden of Gethsemane upon the Mount of Olives was such a park.

"I could be wrong," as Detective Adrian Monk would say, "but I don't think so."

If that was true then Jesus deceived with his words. He didnt say , "You will die and when you awake you will be with me in Paradise, " No his words were chosen as they are true, "TODAY" this is a specific time. Not "oh by the way for the next few thousad years you will sleep , but hey hey you wont know" this isnt the matrix movie.

And as you like to use the Root words from Greek

sēmeron
on the (i.e. this) day (or night current or just passed)
Strong's Talking Greek & Hebrew Dictionary.

Amen , jsut need to look for the SEED of the Serpent bruising the SEED of Adam

if JEsus is the SEED of ADAM, who is the SEED of the Serpent?

what has changed?

sadly as most cant read greek or hebrew we rely in faith on the translations we read.

Interesting poll results.

Just now, frienduff thaylorde said:

Time for folks to also start meeting and pulling those out of wrong churches to meet together .    Some will hear , most will reject .

 

Home churches again, like it was in the bible times

the goats have taken over the church unfortunately. 

When we lost the Apostles , Prophets , Evangelists, Pastors and Teachers

When Elders were replaced as head of the local church by Pastors

When PAstors have to goto Theological school before being called a Pastor.

Even the Demons believe , but tremble. so no there is more to salvation than just believing, otherwise the demons are all saved.

James 2:19-20 (KJV)
¹⁹  Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
²⁰  But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

i am not seeing any church making a stand sadly.  but i am in a small town so only the big churches are here allcontrolled by their denominational heads

Time for non denomiantion churches to spread.

Im not sure what you saying, JEsus returning many times ?

perhaps if Chrisitans had signs and wonders like JEsus did we wouldnt need to argue with anyone.

i think as someone else posted. Jesus told the thief TODAY you will be with my in PARADISE. so if death is death until the resurection did Jesus lie. no of course not.

yes. churches now accepting gay marriage. the worlds political correctness has overtaken some churches.

I am seeing less separation of light and  darkness as the churches Lamps are growing dim

jsut as in the Beginning. God separated the light from the darkness in Genesis .

Jews would have the laws written down and kept in their homes etc. 

shame the money spent by the large churches on art and stained glass. 

No old testament except in the Synagogues, cost a lot of money to get copies of the scrolls.

intersting reading, one day it will be revealed.

1 John 2:18-19 (KJV)
¹⁸  Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
¹⁹  They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

John seems to infer that anti-christs come from within the church. not from ISlam , not from roman catholic church. appearing as  part of the body of christ. 

With so much unbiblical preaching nowadays it will not be surprising to see some "Chrisitan" leader fall and be raised back up again.