mobile21

You are in denial. The argument of the mistranslations is so far-fetched not even most zionists refer to them.

You've reached a point where you won't realize the truth even if it's in front of you.

As long as you display the "israeli flag" with the Star of Molech in it, the geometrical representation of the 666 as your avatar, I think you won't be able to see the truth ever again.

And as for "hate", you are the only one spreading it

You can't be a "good zionist" and a "good christian" at the same time, eventually you'll have to choose.

"Every Jew who spills the blood of the godless (non-Jews), is doing the same as making a sacrifice to God." Talmud: Bammidber raba c 21 & jalkut 772

I agree.

May God have mercy of them.

This is beyond me.

How can a person not understand that muslims worship the very same God?!!?.

Besides, something amusing in here is that none is bashing the jews because they don't believe in Jesus..........

That makes me wonder...........

:gotcha:

Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.

I wouldn't think it a good quality to be amused at someone not believing in Jesus, besides, they will.

They'll believe in Him and so will all people in the world when they finally get to see Him in the Second Coming but that's not true faith:

"Then Jesus told him, Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."

John 20:19

GOD created the hindus,the buddist,devil worshippers...do we worship the same GOD?hey mobile,ill let ya borrow my koran to study..then tell us who they truely worship. i know alot of jews who know JESUS as their savior(im one)......educate before debate

Are you serious????.

OBVIOUSLY I'm talking about the monotheistic religions. The jews, the christians and the muslims worship the ONLY, ONE, TRUE GOD although only the christians know at an intellectual level the truth about God and His trinitarian nature, so when a muslim or a jew pray to the only, one, true God, He also listens to their prayers even if they have a misconception of Him, I think that's pretty obvious.

As for the "devil worshippers", they understand the spiritual world at an INTELLECTUAL level yet they've decided they prefer the fallen angel over the creator of that angel, that is GOD so if "more knowledge" of God means "more salvation", ACCORDING TO YOU a satanist is more likely to be saved than a good conscience muslim................. and that's just plain wrong.

You've got cookies&milk at night with Michael!

Even after there's word out there of the proof that will clear Michael from any wrongdoing beyond reasonable doubt, the people in the media (many of them self-declared "fans" of Michael ) are still babbling nonsense about how he is so guilty even if they were NEVER there by the time the cookies and the warm milk were handed down in M.J.'s bedroom!.

Either they are LYING or they've got way too many cookies&milk at Michael's................

I wonder which one is it :..............NOT:

This is beyond me.

How can a person not understand that muslims worship the very same God?!!?.

Besides, something amusing in here is that none is bashing the jews because they don't believe in Jesus..........

That makes me wonder...........

:gotcha:

Mike:

Mobile,

you sure do like to twist things people say, to make them say what you want.....

one of the questions that HAS NOT been answered,

is where in the scripture does it place Mary above God, or even equal to God or even where does it say that we are to pray to mary over Jesus? or God????? ( un answered )

First of all, you never asked me that before.

Second, have you EVER seen an encyclical or any other document of the Church that affirms such thing?. Even the "Hail Mary" prayer is ALL about Jesus: it says She's full of grace because God gave her the grace of His only Son, Jesus, it says She's blessed because She carried Jesus.

Isn't the Hail Mary contained in the Bible? (Lk 1:28, 1:42).

Weren't those words pronounced by an angel sent by God?.

Now, can you even find a Church document where is declared that you won't be saved or something like that if you don't pray the "Hail Mary"???.

Of course you won't.

this might be of interest to you:

In 1826, a Spanish schoolmaster was hanged because he substituted the phrase "Praise be to God" in place of "Ave Maria" ("Hail Mary") during school prayers.

is that not placing Mary above God????? that is blasphemy.

Some of us Christians have been debating people of the Baha'i faith in the following forums

http://www.contenderministries.com/w-agora...derforums_bahai

Talk about frustrating. They've called in reinforcements and are loading up the forums with lots of misinformation about Chrisitians (on a Christians website). Any of you who are good at witnessing and know your Bibles should check it out and put in your two-cents. I've never seen a faith quite like them. They can say they believe on thing one minute, and change their mind the next. Anything goes. They say they believe in the Bible and even claim to be Christian, but any Bible verse you mention, they will disagree with. Anyone else had similar frustrations?

Tell those bahai' guys God only intended one true religion and one true church who contains that religion.

No one can argue against historical facts.

I wonder why there're always "twin movies":

The Gospel of John/ The Passion

Antz/ A bug's life

Deep Impact/ Armageddon

8th mile/ Glitter

The Truman Show/ ED Tv

and so on

Hey, Mobile!

Just out of curiosity, why are you so up in arms over this issue?

Mainly because of the hypocrisy in our society.

There are groups in this country who are seriously pushing for the legalization of pedophilia (one of them is called NAMBLA or something like that) and yet here we are condemning a guy who has said himself pedophilia is a VERY wrong thing so why we don't "re-direct" our attention to the real dangers in the society?.

When MTV broadcasted the very-planned & staged "lesbian threesome" there was only one serious attempt by one little group to take action via the FCC against MTV (one proposal was to turn MTV into a "non-basic" cable channel) so what happened?. Nothing.

This, as Christian Raiders reported, was the "summer of sodomy" and this thing was an orchestrated event, I have no doubt there's a common agenda behind all of this.

My conclusion to all of this is that EVEN if M.J. turns out to be guilty, he's a far lesser danger to society than the "civil-rights groups" who are pushing for the destruction of the civilization in front of our faces and are getting away with it!.

Yes it's true, God created "the muslims" too and yep, they worship the same God.

I don't even know why this is an issue.

Those priests were convicted because they confessed everything.

M.J. has said time and time again that he's innocent.

As for a petition, this is not for exonerating him as you said but for giving him the right to a fair trial, where he is not guilty before the trial even begins.

Obviously many people in here were there (in Neverland) because they're 100% sure M.J. is guilty.

Bleaching your face and molesting children are two very different things........... He might be capable of doing very bizarre things but comparing that to crimes is not fair.

Hey....whoah....back up. The priests initially said they were innocent. Like M.J. they were innocent until proven guilty.

Second. Let's let the courts worry about the ability to give him a fair trial.

The priests who denied the charges are still on trial.

As for a fair trial, the problem is that you have to find not biased people first for a jury, and with more than 10 years of slandering against M.J. that's gonna be one a very difficult (if not impossible) thing to do.

God knows the truth not us.......and right now that is what matters.  He needs to meet Jesus and we should pray for him to see the light of God.  I am in no position to judge the man although I have my opinion.

I totally agree.

Only God knows the truth so we should denounce every "joke" of M.J. about him being a "sexual predator" because that's not funny.

Mobile21:

I am going to start a petition of support for all the Catholic priests that sexually abused children, destroying the children's lives forever.

The scientologists believe in a "supreme alien" called Xen

funny, isnt it, that God was the one that placed this woman in my life to be my wife......

Wrong, God gave us free will.

If God would've picked your wife, then you'd still be married to her because God can make no mistake.

Seriously, blaming God for YOUR mistakes is an assertion that borders on blasphemy.

funny, isnt it, that Jesus is not condemning me for having this wife......

So you have already seen Jesus? Funny ( ) that the Bible clearly states that Jesus judges us AFTER we have died, not before.

If Jesus has already judged you and you have already been saved or condemended, can you tell me why are you STILL alive?.

Why aren't you in heaven or in hell?.

funny, isnt it, that you seem to know about what is in my heart then Jesus, or even myself......

I don't know your heart, just the words you have written.

funny, isnt it, that you have not answered questions, but side step them trying to get them forgot about......

I have answered *every* question.

Why are you lying?.

funny,isnt it,

Bless you saints in His Grace, Jesus!

I just gotta ask? I can't help it. I'm a critical thinker. I ask questions when things don't sound right.

I just watched Bush and Blair while waiting for the school bus for my daughter.

Anyway he stated first off and I agree. That we are fighting a war for our very values. The values ,(my words not his) that we get from our very Lord . The morals and laws handed down from G-d to man. (again my words)

Now back to Bush. He also stated when asked if the muslims believe in the same G-d we do. He stated yes I believe so.

We are fighting a war of morals and values. Yet they have the same ones. The muslims by their very actions place no merit on Charity.

So we must defeat this evil and protect our country and those countrys in the world that would desire not to live under these evil uncharitable people. Yet they believe in the same G-d as we.

Now we will not tolerate someone from a fringe hate group from molesting our nation and this is why we went to war in Iraq. Amen! I agree!

Blair even says we musn't tolerate those who would prevent us from building a better Iraq a free one. One that promotes our values. That is why the struggle there has turned ugly. If we allow these hatemongers to win by pulling out. They will be emboldened. Agreed! Amen!

So why when it comes to Israel has all of this common sense been turned on its head?

If you allow the terrorists in Palestine to win? Won't you be doing the same thing you say you don't want in Iraq?

I don't know????

Bush has again stated as he did at the outset of the war. That Palestine is the heart of the matter!

Peace,

Dave

Was up Doc?

I am really having trouble with Bush proclaiming to come in the name of Christ, for by His very actions He denies Him.

Please understand I am not trying to judge him and say that he is not a Christian, but then again the pope makes the same claim. God says that we are to test the spirits, and again we shall know the tree by its fruit.

Now I can almost understand some of the things that are happening, with all the pressure from many other sources that he has to deal with. He needs our prayer.

But I really have trouble with him saying that he thinks that we as Christians and the muslims worship the same God!

This man needs to take that step of faith and make a stand for Christ and quit straddeling the fence because he is worried that he may offend the muslim faith. In the meantime he is offending God!

We need a man who will stand up for the Almighty Name of Jesus, and I believe that God will heal whatever nation will take this stand. We Do Not Worship the same God as the muslims god.

After all they make no bones about the fact that those who are Christians are infidels. Their Koran says they are to destroy all Christians andJewish infidels. Now a Christian to them is anyone who is not a Jew or muslim.

Now please dont think I am Bush bashing, but when it comes to Jesus, this man needs to make a clear and decisive decission, even if it cost him his office and power.

This is one issue where there is no comprimise, by his satement it sends a message to the world that our God is weak, which we as Christians know is not the case.

Let us pray for our president.

In Jesus

Kevin

There's only One God right?.

So all the monotheist religions who worship that One God truly worship the same God.

Bless you saints in His Grace, Jesus!

I just gotta ask? I can't help it. I'm a critical thinker. I ask questions when things don't sound right.

I just watched Bush and Blair while waiting for the school bus for my daughter.

Anyway he stated first off and I agree. That we are fighting a war for our very values. The values ,(my words not his) that we get from our very Lord . The morals and laws handed down from G-d to man. (again my words)

Now back to Bush. He also stated when asked if the muslims believe in the same G-d we do. He stated yes I believe so.

We are fighting a war of morals and values. Yet they have the same ones. The muslims by their very actions place no merit on Charity.

So we must defeat this evil and protect our country and those countrys in the world that would desire not to live under these evil uncharitable people. Yet they believe in the same G-d as we.

Now we will not tolerate someone from a fringe hate group from molesting our nation and this is why we went to war in Iraq. Amen! I agree!

Blair even says we musn't tolerate those who would prevent us from building a better Iraq a free one. One that promotes our values. That is why the struggle there has turned ugly. If we allow these hatemongers to win by pulling out. They will be emboldened. Agreed! Amen!

So why when it comes to Israel has all of this common sense been turned on its head?

If you allow the terrorists in Palestine to win? Won't you be doing the same thing you say you don't want in Iraq?

I don't know????

Bush has again stated as he did at the outset of the war. That Palestine is the heart of the matter!

Peace,

Dave

I heard Blair too.

For those imperialists everything is about "winning".

They don't know anything about peace or understanding nor do they care.

These imperialists should just save the phony trips and the nonsense.

P.S. It was actually hilarious when Blair "confessed" that he didn't give a damn about democracy or public opinion LOL . It's a very unusual thing when a politico speaks his mind

I guess I'll give this petition for support a little more time.

We have to remember that some petitions to support far more outrageous and controversial matters have gathered some signatures when they stick around a certain amount of time.

Artsylady:

I don't believe because I've read the New Testament.

I never said I left because of divorce.....

in all actuallity, I left long before i was married .......

dont try to read things into what isnt there.....

as far as divorce, man has no idea what took place, there is not a single man that knows what is actually in the heart of me or my ex....... that is between me and God and my ex and God........

mobile, you don't like our pres much do ya? i'm curious.... who among our nine nimwit democratic candidates do you think would do a better job?

Well, I think Clark, Lieberman, Kerry or Edwards would all do a better job because they're more qualified.

Now, that does not mean that I support any of them but your question was who do you think would do a better job right?

Hi!. As you may know by now, Michael Jackson is being the victim of a "witch-hunt" all over again and the Santa Barbara authorities (Tom Sneddon in particular) have made it clear this vendetta is the sequel of the 93 legal problems that M.J. had back then.

Today I was watching Crossfire on CNN and some woman was talking about the "right of the public to information" and I don't know how that has anything to do with a person being publicly humiliated or being slandered on tv again and again just because they feel Michael Jackson is "bizarre enough" to be considered a fair target.

You can sign your support here and I'm sure M.J. will be grateful for it .

The Stone is Jesus.

The jews discarded Him as the Messiah yet He's the only path for salvation.

I heard the twist was.. and this is just a rumor... but... that beautiful woman, is really a man. :wow:

LOL

So she IS the average joe!!!