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So you admit all vials are wrath then. Great. Those are part of (last part) of the tribulation. That would mean that at least some of the trib is wrath. Since the vials are the culmination or completion of the wrath, there has to be some beginning that gets completed. In other words, if the beginning is in the tribulation then that means the trib is wrath

Your claim that only the 7th vial was the wrath was shown to be false. It says the vials of wrath, not the vial of wrath. Just face it

After the tribulation (of which the vials are the last part) Jesus returns to earth to rule

Did you miss the verse I posted? Revelation 15:7 And one of the four beasts gave unto the seven angels seven golden vials full of the wrath of God, who liveth for ever and ever Not just the 7th vial. And since all the wrath vials are the finish of wrath, it seems to indicate that it started before the vials as well

All seven vials are wrath, the verse states. Of course the very last bit is the final final wrath bit

Part is right. Just a part. And ALL the vials are wrath as well. Rev 15:1 And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth

The wrath before the vials ancesis not as great. That could account for the greek word nuances Yes and since the wrath existed already and the vials in the tribulation were the finish of the wrath, the completion, it indicates that the wrath predated the final part of that wrath from the vials

Except the vials are wrath. Did you think that the wrath was finished by all those vials in a day? Revelation 16:12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared. In just this one vial we see that it is more than a day. The pouring out just prepares the way fro some kings to cross the river.

Right, after He returns. The vials of wrath are before that. The point about that was that if the vials are the finishing touches or completion of the wrath, then the wrath started before the vials. That means the tribulation period

That chapter says He will rule nations. So once again, where do you claim the nations will be that are being ruled over? Name that planet, man. Let's see you be true and brave

When Jesus returns to earth, we see this Rev 19:5 From His mouth comes a sharp sword, so that with it He may strike down the nations; and He will rule them with a rod of iron; and He treads the wine press of the fierce wrath of God, the Almighty He rules the nations after He returns. This is news? We also know He willl rule from Jerusalem. So where do you claim all the nations of planet earth will be exactly?? :)

If you claim the bible says the nations He rules after He returns to earth at Jerusalem are somewhere else than planet earth YOU need Scripture! You will not have any. Just admit it

The nations are on earth if you notice? Again, where did you think He sticks the nations to rule them from Jerusalem, if not on the planet??

As if that was some question or debatable? Of course He protects believers to some extent. As Daniel put it Now when they shall fall, they shall be holpen with a little help: but many shall cleave to them with flatteries. It was shown how the vials are the finishing part of the wrath of God. So unless you want to dispute that the vials are part of the seven years period, or that something that is completed had to be started first (in this case the vials are the completion of the wrath of God)

Having a book opened and God here cracks nothing! We are told after that about how the planet will be made new as well as the universe. In what way would all those who died on earth that get raised be required to NOT be here to get raised and judged? Name a verse that says they all get transported to some specific other place for that??