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dad2

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  1. He did say He knew the love of God was not in them. How could it be unless He was in them? The parable was about someone who already had love in him. Not someone working up a passage to heaven. There is only one door, one way to heaven, and that is Jesus. He does have people who need to find Him and know Him so they also can get saved. It does not say those people are people who already are saved and have Him in them now. They need to come to Jesus like everyone else and are not saved by their own works at all. The only way we have His love in us is by having Jesus in our lives and heart. It is not like some are so good (none are good, no not one) that they save themselves without Jesus by doing wonderful works (which are like filthy rags when it comes to paying for eternal life)
  2. To have God in us is to have love in us. It is not our own love that saves us. Love is a result of being saved and having God, who is love, in us. Jesus told the Pharisees one time that He knew them, that they did not have the love of God in them.
  3. His love in us causes us to love others. Not our own love Those were already separated by God. Already saved. He lives in us. Believing in Jesus saves us, nothing else and surely not works of our own. The people who were harvested by God and at His right hand were believers in Jesus. They probably didn't have much time to learn and grow in the word coming from that tribulation, and many were killed. But they are rewarded for the works they did do...just as we all are! The church was Raptured years before this and had already stood before Jesus and received rewards. Rewards are not salvation! They are given to saved people for works they did. In the case of the tribulation saints separated at the end of the tribulation, they receive rewards as well based on what they were able to do. What we have here seems to be Jesus commending saved believers from the tribulation period for their works and bringing them to the place prepared for them (and us, and where we will already be at that time) The ones He informs are the unsaved of course. They do not know Him. We do.
  4. So I guess you could say that about the Palestinians and all people on earth as well. However works do not save anyone. So the folks who donated water and food in the end were saved by belief in Jesus just as everyone else. No exceptions. You see the folks He was talking to were already saved and gathered up. Mat 25: 33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. 34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
  5. Great. So that means that the second time God gathers them is at this end time. The people who claimed God gathered Israel in 1948 were wrong. I would say their actions today prove that they have no connection to God in any direct or real way
  6. The whole chronology of Genesis lists such very long lifespans, From Adam to Noah and beyond. It is a mischaracterization to say it was some exception and special miracle. Only long after Babel was that the case and normal. In Gen 5 for example the average life span is 912 years. Once again, the average life in Gen 5 was 912 years. Nowhere in Genesis was it 70 years. Your claims are disingenuous
  7. Looking at other verses in Isa 11 we actually see the timeframe is the end of the world and no other possible time Isaiah 11:15 And the Lord shall utterly destroy the tongue of the Egyptian sea; and with his mighty wind shall he shake his hand over the river, and shall smite it in the seven streams, and make men go over dryshod. Isaiah 11:16 And there shall be an highway for the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria; like as it was to Israel in the day that he came up out of the land of Egypt. There is no doubt whatsoever Isaiah 11:9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord , as the waters cover the sea. Isaiah 11:10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious. Just look at what unbelieving Israel today, that does not have the love of God in them is doing to Gaza. One cannot say nothing shall hurt now!
  8. Not true. The exact years Noah, Adam and etc etc etc lived are written in the bible. Calling that an addition to scripture is a lie. At least you do not even pretend to be a believer. (except in your profile)
  9. Everyone listed in that former time had long lives. There is no special pleading or exceptions that required a miracle involved generally. It was normal. The seventy year span was long after this time.
  10. The years people lived actually are given exactly. Your disbelief changes nothing about how long God tells us they lived (and will live again soon in the future) Believe it, or not
  11. Yes. But even if it were not flawed, it only works a relatively few thousand years. For that time we have had radioactive decay. Beyond that, we don't know. Therefore the ratios cannot be all attributed to decay
  12. The differences in fundamental life on earth such as the length of lives of men and how fast trees grew are in the bible. Nothing 'extra' about the record there. Giving science a little credit for some basics, we know that the continents moved a lot. The bible does give us the approximate timelines involved since the beginning so we know this separation had to happen inside that time. Nothing extra about it. Sorry if you thought you got to wave it all away
  13. They are meaningless Great. I tend to give them the benefit of the doubt for about 4000 years though. Even if 'ages' were in agreement, they would not be ages beyond the time when radioactive decay existed. I have no reason to assume it existed in Noah's day. The pattern loses meaning if the physics/nature/forces/laws were not the same in the days of Genesis. The only way the ratios assume meaning is by attaching the meaning of what happens in today's nature to them. As if they all got here in this nature. They didn't Some part of the ratios was here already at creation, and then was affected by the realities and laws in place at the time of Eden. Then there was the pre flood (and shortly post flood) days. Ratios were affected by the forces and laws that existed then as well. Then there is the present state. The ratios were affected by this nature as well (radioactive decay etc)
  14. Attempting to explain why it was like it was is not making anything up. But since science incessantly seeks to make up things about how we got here by the belief that the samestatepastdunnit, it is appropriate to revisit their godless alternate reality past with reason and biblical acumen.
  15. What God does is not some 'unscriptural miracle'. Looking at the future, man will again live nearly 1000 years and the world will again be as in the days of Noah. The world will not be what we now have. Heaven will not be what we now have. Eden was not what we now have. From descriptions of the pre flood world, it was not what we now have.
  16. No, God turned to gentiles because Israel rejected Him. Not because of some future mid tribulation event to come. Whatever it is it starts mid trib and ends when Jesus returns. Any guesses you may have as to 'what' it will be of how to define it do not matter.
  17. Yes, it shows that the AOD was not in history, but future
  18. From the time of A till the time of B there is 3 1/2 years. A is the time of the abomination set up and B is the end when He comes. That can only happen once and it has to be future
  19. The important thing about the abomination of desolation, is that when we see that, there is only 3 1/2 years left. That means it never happened in history Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
  20. Except you made that up. The bible did not say that Actually it says this Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure. That means all the material in the image. So yes He does destroy and break it into pieces no less. False. The ten toes are the last powers in the image. It all got broken up by Jesus in the end and He rules. That did not happen the first coming. The times of the Gentiles also is only over when He returns. You are not even close on any of this, we have nothing to fine tune here. Stick to the topic. The AOD spoken of by Daniel and referred to by Jesus involves the end time actually Again, you should stick to the topic, the babblings about general prophesy are not worthy of further time.
  21. The iron and clay in the feet are kingdoms just as the rest of the statue. When Jesus the rock returns to smash it at the feet, it is a violent overthrow of the kingdoms of the world. Not some non military attack on Israel! The only time the kingdoms of the world (that the statue represented) will be dashed to pieces by Jesus is in the end. Anyone thinking ancient Rome fulfilled that was out to lunch. Whether there will be a full temple or not doesn't matter. There will be animals sacrifices and a holy place though. Not sure why you brought up the word desolate. Hopefully not to try and relate to the abomination that makes desolate. Unbelieving Jews, naturally, would love to have a temple if they could get away with it.
  22. The next time God gathers them is the second time when they get saved in the end. Looking at some commentaries (example: https://www.studylight.org/commentaries/eng/bbc/ezekiel-20.html#verse-27) I see that this is about the first time. Since God makes it clear the SECOND time is when He returns and after they are saved, we know that has to be the case.
  23. God needs nothing but informed us Israel would be around in the end, being killed and under the wrath of God etc in the end. Since God, speaking in the first Person said the second time He will gather them is after He returns in the end, we know as far as He is concerned there were the two times. One is over the other is yet to come. Whatever one we look at it will change nothing. Sorry 1948 is not prominent in the bible. The next time GOD returns them to the land is yet to come. That neither means to unbelieving children nor that they would get that land right away forever. They only get it after they are saved and He is here and gives it to those saved folks. Obviously they were booted out by God from that land after Abraham, so we know the only time they will get it forever (the saved ones) will be in the very end. God has finished the church when the tribulation starts. That is not an issue for after the tribulation when the remnant in Israel get saved. Not true. He is not for terrorists at all. He will only be for them and protect and restore them after they are saved in the end. They have no connection to God in their evil rebellious sinful actions today.
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