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[Ad Hom accusation removed] Quoting Genesis as written is NOT a revision. Rejecting the six day creation which was considered foundational doctrine for 67 centuries isn’t revision, it’s rejection. Adam believed God made him. Jesus, who was there, said that man and woman were there from the beginning. Not day one, but day six. God Himself affirmed the six day creation. Moses recorded the creation as told to him by God. Revision? Are you giving me credit for penning Genesis? If that’s the case, I want my royalty check.
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You have yet to explain how evolution is compatible with Exodus 20:11. Most people are smart enough to understand that 6 days and 13.5 billion years are NOT equal time spans. Either you reject one or the other. Christians who reject the Bible aren’t “Christ like,” because Christ actually believed the Bible. In fact, He quoted Genesis repeatedly. God said 6 days. You say 13.5 billion years. Whom shall we believe?
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Kitzmiller v. Dover, Intelligent Design VS Theistic Evolution.
RV_Wizard replied to Diamond's topic in Science and Faith
ADAPTATION is observed. Nobody has ever observed evolution. Dogs can adapt to be different breeds of dogs, but no dog ever gave birth to a horse. Can you actually make a post without saying anything untrue? -
As my pastor said, many people will go to Hell straight from the church pew because of so-called Christians and pastors who preach and teach false doctrine. Baptism won't save you. Confession won't save you. Attending church services won't save you. Tithing won't save you. Repeating prayers won't save you. Praying to intercessors won't save you. Claiming to believe in a Bible you misrepresent daily won't save you. Science won't save you. Believing in God won't save you. Satan believes in God. NOTHING but the shed blood of Jesus and your acceptance of Him as your Lord and Savior will save you. Nothing more is needed. Nothing less will work. I don't care what ANY so-called Christian says. The authority of God is in His word, not the consensus of wannabe clerics. In Exodus 20:11, GOD HIMSELF said that He created the heavens and the earth and all that is in them in six days. That makes anyone who says anything to the contrary a liar.
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Kitzmiller v. Dover, Intelligent Design VS Theistic Evolution.
RV_Wizard replied to Diamond's topic in Science and Faith
You keep repeating the same lie. Not only does the text specifically say "The evening and the morning were the ___th day," it's so specific that you have to pretend those verses do not exist. Further, since God HIMSELF cited the six-day creation and made it part of His Ten Commandments, NO BIBLE BELIEVING PERSON can deny what God affirmed. Evolution is a Satanic lie. You are promoting false doctrine. -
No, we see fish coming from fish, animals coming from animals and plants coming from plants. He could, buy those of us who believe the Bible know He formed us from the dust of the earth on the 6th day of creation. As YOU learned, that's a stone cold lie. God HIMSELF carved the record of the six day creation into stone tablets. You don't get any closer to God's word than the words God wrote Himself. If you believe God, you KNOW evolution is a lie.
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Kitzmiller v. Dover, Intelligent Design VS Theistic Evolution.
RV_Wizard replied to Diamond's topic in Science and Faith
Thus claims the person who says that a six day creation and a 13 billion year evolution are the same thing; nothing contradicted. -
Kitzmiller v. Dover, Intelligent Design VS Theistic Evolution.
RV_Wizard replied to Diamond's topic in Science and Faith
EVERYTHING in Scripture denies the lie. Of course, you don't accept the authority of the Scriptures, so naturally you refuse to believe it. That's a lie. God PERSONALLY carved into stone tablets the six day creation. You've been shown this, but you prefer to lie about it. Not for the first 52 centuries, s has been proven to you several times. Please explain what you're talking about. The definition of a day is STILL a rotation of the earth; an evening and morning. When did you see Him last? You say they are broken, but since you've never created life from dust, I give no credibility whatever to anything you say. -
Kitzmiller v. Dover, Intelligent Design VS Theistic Evolution.
RV_Wizard replied to Diamond's topic in Science and Faith
He ALSO said that man and apes share common ancestry, which is the part that runs contrary to the Scriptures. Do you have a hard time understanding that, or are you being dishonest? He also said that man took millions of years to evolve. God said He created man in a day. Are those two things the same in your world? You quote the same distortions of Scripture. I told that to you. I also said that the only way to believe in the Bible and evolution is to understand neither. Millions of years do not equal a day. Creation from the dust of the earth does not equal billions of years of evolution. Adam and Eve had no parents. Augustine was a heretic. Much of the dogma he championed had no basis whatever in the Scriptures. The evening and the morning = one rotation of the earth. it is not necessarily 24 hours. Since the earth's rotation is slowing, it's likely slightly shorter than that. The opinions of your 20th century apologists are irrelevant. Trying to compromise truth with a lie results in a lie every time. The standard of truth is not the opinions of man, but the word of God. It gives facts and a specific timeline for a supernatural creation that science cannot disprove. Is is supported by the written words of God in Exodus 20:11. You don't believe in a six day creation. You deny every Bible verse that contradicts what you have chosen to believe. Perhaps in your ancestry. Mine were created by God in His image. Given that genes code physical characteristics and given that we share a large percentage of characteristics with apes, only a complete idiot would expect to see enormous differences in the genes. That shows a commonality of design, not heredity. -
Kitzmiller v. Dover, Intelligent Design VS Theistic Evolution.
RV_Wizard replied to Diamond's topic in Science and Faith
Darwin claimed a contradictory means of creation, so they can only both be right in a disturbed and illogical mind. Speciation does not equal origination. Perhaps if you actually read the Bible rather than taking excerpts out of context from atheist websites you would see how absolutely foolish that statement is. We KNOW what scientists say about it. Science is the study of the natural world. It cannot account for the supernatural, and thus cannot prove or disprove a single thing in the Bible. You put your faith in the science of man and shun the word of God. I do hope you find the truth before it's too late. EVERYTHING you believe is wrong. -
Kitzmiller v. Dover, Intelligent Design VS Theistic Evolution.
RV_Wizard replied to Diamond's topic in Science and Faith
WHAT?????? If the evening and morning doesn't signify a period of time, pray tell what DO they signify? Why not just admit that you don't believe a word of it? I always said that to believe in evolution and the Bible you have to have a solid understanding of neither. In your case, you simply misrepresent both. FIGURATIVE??? For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it. That's God's word, carved by God Himself onto a stone tablet. Either God's lying or you are. Guess who we believe? So Jesus lied also? The beginning doesn't mean the first second of the first day. The beginning of creation was a six day event. He absolutely was not. Your version of reality is so twisted I'm beginning to wonder if you're even from this planet. You mean YOUR definition of evolutionary theory. Have you contacted Britanica yet for the correction? How about explaining to us how reproduction works without genes. Seriously, you could be a comic book. Your classification, not God's. Our only connection with apes is that God created us both on day six. -
Kitzmiller v. Dover, Intelligent Design VS Theistic Evolution.
RV_Wizard replied to Diamond's topic in Science and Faith
You really need to get some new lies. That one has been so thoroughly debunked even you don't believe it any longer. But let's play it your way. Evening and morning were the first day. Let's say that day was a million years long. It would be followed by a million year night. Since nothing can live a million years without sunlight, every living thing died. How about the fourth commandment, which is based on the creation week. You need to work for six million years before you can rest for a million years. That's a LOT of overtime. Jesus, who was there, said that in the beginning God created man male and female. The Bible says were were created in God's image. You claim Adam and Even had parents who were ALMOST human, but not quite. Show us how that conforms to God's word. You mean nothing is Scripture CONFORMS TO biological evolution. Observed speciation does not equal molecules to man. Genetics is PART of evolution theory. Nothing reproduces without genes. You tell people that man and apes share a common ancestor. That is, of course, a lie. Man's only ancestor is the will of his Creator, -
Kitzmiller v. Dover, Intelligent Design VS Theistic Evolution.
RV_Wizard replied to Diamond's topic in Science and Faith
Darwin allowed that some god could have made the first living thing because he couldn't explain the origin of life. That falls far short of giving God the glory fo all creation. 100% false. The Bible states that all animals and man were created by God in a day. Evolution claims it took millions of years. It seems that in order to make your point you have to misrepresent EVERYTHING. According to who? You? Let's see what Britannica has to say about it. The virtually infinite variations on life are the fruit of the evolutionary process. All living creatures are related by desc.ent from common ancestors. Humans and other mammals descend from shrewlike creatures that lived more than 150 million years ago; mammals, birds, reptiles, amphibians, and fishes share as ancestors aquatic worms that lived 600 million years ago; and all plants and animals derive from bacteria-like microorganisms that originated more than 3 billion years ago. Maybe you need to educate THEM about what you claim evolution is. -
Kitzmiller v. Dover, Intelligent Design VS Theistic Evolution.
RV_Wizard replied to Diamond's topic in Science and Faith
Origination aside, evolution proponents claim common ancestry over millions of years, where God's word SPECIFICALLY states that the creation was complete and man walked the earth on the sixth day. You keep downplaying non-issues around the edges when at the heart of it evolution is 100% in opposition to the Scriptures. Jesus quoted from Genesis. Jesus was there. When God walked and spoke with Adam, that was Jesus. Jesus told us that the Scriptures were true and useful for education. Evolutionists claim it's all a lie. You keep saying that in his original work Darwin said that perhaps some god did create first life, but it evolved from there. Even that is a lie, because God did NOT create everything from one original cell over millions of years. Your views on the origination of the first life is a small lie compared to the MASSIVE lie of common origins you preach. Man and apes did NOT have a common ancestor, they had a common CREATOR. Genetics show common design. Common ancestry is a lie. It says that God created all the animals from the earth ON DAY SIX, not over millions of years. Satan uses portions of the Bible out of context to deceive. He did it with Eve and tried it with Christ. You do the EXACT same thing. That is a straight up lie. Genesis 1: 24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. 25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good. 26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. 29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. 30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so. 31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day. Now, show me what I've added or admit your lie. Continuing speciation has NOTHING WHATEVER to do with the claim that man evolved from a common ancestor with a daffodil. -
Kitzmiller v. Dover, Intelligent Design VS Theistic Evolution.
RV_Wizard replied to Diamond's topic in Science and Faith
As we all know, he later doubted the existence of God and was simply unsure what natural occurrence began first life. Try reading his later works. It's observed speciation extrapolated into a lie of origins. The animal kingdom was c0mplete on day six. There is a genetic bottleneck which was caused by the great flood. God said it, case closed. We're not. Nothing evolves into anything else. Cross breeding leads to sterility. Base pairs from the ark expanding into the current manifestation of the animal kingdom doesn't mean you share ancestry with a daffodil. It's a satanic lie. It serves Satan's desire to steal glory from God. -
Kitzmiller v. Dover, Intelligent Design VS Theistic Evolution.
RV_Wizard replied to Diamond's topic in Science and Faith
Views which he later rejected as he strayed further from God in search of a natural explanation for the origination of life. Evolution is a lie. Satan is the founder of lies. Evolution is a Satanic lie. Case closed. -
Kitzmiller v. Dover, Intelligent Design VS Theistic Evolution.
RV_Wizard replied to Diamond's topic in Science and Faith
In the beginning, but not in the end. In the end he didn't believe anything written in the Gospel. "The old argument of design in nature, as given by Paley, which formerly seemed to me so conclusive, fails, now that the law of natural selection had been discovered. We can no longer argue that, for instance, the beautiful hinge of a bivalve shell must have been made by an intelligent being, like the hinge of a door by man. There seems to be no more design in the variability of organic beings and in the action of natural selection, than in the course which the wind blows. Everything in nature is the result of fixed laws. "At the present day [c. 1872] the most usual argument for the existence of an intelligent God is drawn from the deep inward conviction and feelings which are experienced by most persons. But it cannot be doubted that Hindoos, Mahomadans and others might argue in the same manner and with equal force in favor of the existence of one God, or of many Gods, or as with the Buddhists of no God ... This argument would be a valid one if all men of all races had the same inward conviction of the existence of one God: But we know that this is very far from being the case. Therefore I cannot see that such inward convictions and feelings are of any weight as evidence of what really exists." " Darwin. So, no, in the end, Darwin didn't believe there was a God or that God created anything that lived. And yes, despite your claims to the contrary, evolution is a satanic lie and those who promote it are false teachers. The fourth commandment exists for a reason. -
Kitzmiller v. Dover, Intelligent Design VS Theistic Evolution.
RV_Wizard replied to Diamond's topic in Science and Faith
More useless deception, because that's his FIRST publication, not his last, and Darwin is only the beginning of the theory, NOT what is being taught today. As it has been demonstrated, Darwin devolved from a deist to an agnostic. «The chief defect of the Darwinian theory is that it throws no light on the origin of the primitive organism—probably a simple cell—from which all the others have descended. When Darwin assumes a special creative act for this first species, he is not consistent, and, I think, not quite sincere...» wrote Haeckel in 1862 Universal common descent is a Satanic lie. Claiming that it has validity is heresy. Claiming common ancestry while denying a common Creator is foolishness. -
Kitzmiller v. Dover, Intelligent Design VS Theistic Evolution.
RV_Wizard replied to Diamond's topic in Science and Faith
You expressed quite correctly my views where you say that I had intentionally left the question of the Origin of Life uncanvassed as being altogether ultra vires in the present state of our knowledge, & that I dealt only with the manner of succession. I have met with no evidence that seems in the least trustworthy, in favour of the so-called Spontaneous generation. I believe that I have somewhere said (but cannot find the passage) that the principle of continuity renders it probable that the principle of life will hereafter be shown to be a part, or consequence of some general law; but this is only conjecture and not science. - Charles Darwin Darwin absolutely believed in universal common descent. He didn't include it in his books because he couldn't account for the origination of life, and felt that science at the time was incapable of explaining it. However, as you have been taught so many times, evolution as it is taught today does not limit itself to what Darwin believed or what he wrote about. Darwin was only one of many false teachers seduced by the lie of universal common descent. -
Kitzmiller v. Dover, Intelligent Design VS Theistic Evolution.
RV_Wizard replied to Diamond's topic in Science and Faith
This theory suggests that species evolve over long periods, descending from a common ancestor rather than arising independently. The notion was notably advanced by Charles Darwin in his 1859 work, "On the Origin of Species," where he introduced the idea of a last universal common ancestor (LUCA), believed to be a single-celled organism that lived between 3.5 and 3.8 billion years ago. source "[P]robably all the organic beings which have ever lived on this earth have descended from some one primordial form, into which life was first breathed." - Charles Darwin. Why do you misrepresent EVERYTHING? From the Bible to evolution to Darwin's original writings, everything you post is 180 degrees out of phase with the truth. Evolution theory may have begun with Darwin, but the modern fantasy is not limited to his writings. Today the lie of evolution is taught as if it were established fact. It claims common ancestry between humans and daffodils. It is a false religion, loudly proclaimed by false teachers. -
Kitzmiller v. Dover, Intelligent Design VS Theistic Evolution.
RV_Wizard replied to Diamond's topic in Science and Faith
I think everyone here knows which of us posts complete passages and which of us takes fragments of verses out of context. We know there is no truth to your claim that the early church doubted the creation as described. We all know that the claim of universal common descent didn't exist before the 17th century. Further, we know that Biblical purists regard many of the teachings of Augustine as heresy because they didn't exist in the completed Scriptures. You add and subtract to fit your argument, and then pretend that verses which disprove your claim; like Exodus 20:11; do not exist. It IS God's way, despite your many claims to the contrary. God said "Let there be," and there was. -
Kitzmiller v. Dover, Intelligent Design VS Theistic Evolution.
RV_Wizard replied to Diamond's topic in Science and Faith
Genesis 2:3-4 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die. You are using the same argument that Satan used to deceive Eve. Death was sure, just not instant. You don't like your own arguments being used against you? Most churches believed in the six day creation until the 16th century; something else you misrepresent frequently. Does that constitute acceptance of every divergent sect? As you know, I am a Bible believing Christian. I associate more with the Baptists than any other denomination, but if they teach something non-biblical I do not agree. The word of God is the standard of truth, not any denomination nor any claims of s0-called religious leaders who profess heresy. Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." That includes respected Jewish clergymen who reject Jesus as the lamb of God. -
Kitzmiller v. Dover, Intelligent Design VS Theistic Evolution.
RV_Wizard replied to Diamond's topic in Science and Faith
You have a problem distinguishing between "in the day" and "on the day." Satan used the same argument with Eve. Is that where you got it? Why do you promote National Socialist doctrine that man evolved? Why do you promote Satanist doctrine that the Bible is not true as written? Just because a false religion mentions something consistent with the Bible, it doesn't make them anything other than a false religion. I will remind you that Satan quoted Scripture to Jesus. Of course, like you, he misrepresented it. This remains among the stupidest things you ever say. Morning and evening have to do with the rotation of the earth, not the light source. As everyone else seems to understand, the moon wasn't created until the sun was. Moonrise denotes evening. Sunrise denotes a new day. No, what I said was that no expert on the Hebrew language believes the days described in Genesis are anything but solar days. I didn't say they believed what was written; as you do not either. I said when used with evening and morning or as a numbered day, it means a single solar day 100% of the time. I am perfectly aware that post crucifixion Jews are as lost as can be. Their rejection of Christ leaves them no forgiveness for their sins. I don't see them sacrificing any lambs. I give their words or opinions no more credence that that of any other false teacher or false prophet. Even Mohammed had a few grains of truth in his mountain of lies. -
Kitzmiller v. Dover, Intelligent Design VS Theistic Evolution.
RV_Wizard replied to Diamond's topic in Science and Faith
is it that you don't understand the Bible, or do you deliberately misrepresent it? The LDS is a false religion, teaching false doctrine. They are more of a cult than a religious sect. God is never described with sexual characteristics in the Scriptures, but He does consistently describe Himself in the masculine gender. While God contains all the qualities of both male and female genders, He has chosen to present Himself with an emphasis on masculine qualities of fatherhood, protection, direction, strength, etc. Metaphors used to describe Him in the Bible include: King, Father, Judge, Husband, Master, and the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. source Wow! You're still pushing that lie? Although dozens of people have explained to you that light was created day one, you claim it was not? By the way, other than plant and tree life, there was not a SINGLE LIVING THING on earth until day five. Maimonides has been pointed out to have been a non-believer who rejected Christ as the Messiah and the son of God. He may be respected by those who reject Christ and God's word, but Christians shouldn't believe a word he wrote. He was wrong about the greatest truth in the universe. They will one day. So will you... one day. Eventually every knee will bow. False teachers don't have such grace. 2nd Peter 2:1 “But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.” -
Kitzmiller v. Dover, Intelligent Design VS Theistic Evolution.
RV_Wizard replied to Diamond's topic in Science and Faith
He created all land dwelling animals on day six of creation. The universe was created in six days. You refuse to believe God's word. You disapprove of how He did it and want to distort His word to fit your world view. God is masculine. He. Our Father. His name. No, evening and morning represent one day 100% of the time without exception. The creation week with the day of rest is the basis for our work week. A cycle of the moon is a month. An orbit around the sun is a year. There is nothing else besides the week of creation to designate one week. Jesus believed in. He was actually there. He walked and spoke with Adam. He quoted Genesis regularly. Remember, Christ said that from the beginning God created them make and female. From the beginning; not millions of years later. Cite all the false prophets and false teachers you want. Paul warned us against false prophets and false teachers. Maimonides was born in 1135. He wrote, “If he did not succeed to this degree or was killed, he surely is not the redeemer promised by the Torah. Rather, he should be considered as all the other proper and complete kings of the Davidic dynasty who died. God caused him to arise only to test the many, as Daniel 11:35 states: ‘And some of the wise men will stumble, to try them, to refine, and to clarify until the appointed time, because the set time is in the future.'” “Jesus of Nazareth who aspired to be the Mashiach and was executed by the court was also alluded to in Daniel’s prophecies, as ibid. 11:14 states: ‘The vulgar among your people shall exalt themselves in an attempt to fulfill the vision, but they shall stumble.'” “Can there be a greater stumbling block than Christianity?” So, your great hero rejected Christ as the son of God and refused to accept Him as the sacrifice for the sins of man. "The vulgar among your people?" Do YOU see Christ as being vulgar; a Messianic wannabe? There will be many "great spiritual leaders" in Hell. The only salvation is to accept Christ as your Lord and Savior, and to live according to His will. Anything else leads to destruction.