Bluedragon
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CNN: McCarthy begged Trump to rein in rioters, but Trump refused. If true, Senate must convict
Once again ......quoting sources that are known to be liars. The best you can describe them to be.
What's wrong? Incapable of paraprasing sources that are reliable?
I believe in baseball three strikes more or less sends the batter to the dugout. USA Today is trash ...I would tell front desks at the hotesl I stayed in .....slip that trash under my door, I will tear it up and scatter in the hallways ....Always quoting CNN .....while they've been proven wrong and creating news built around fraud ....
Try harder ...
CNN false news
USA Today false sources
CNN again false unnamed sources ...
Maybe what is needed is Schiff's staff to help limp along .....
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On 4/26/2020 at 5:49 PM, Daniel Marsh said:
Jesus is love, did he offend anyone?
Yes he did .....I suggest rereading his actions in the Temple when the money changer tables were overturned ......
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On 1/8/2023 at 4:21 PM, The Barbarian said:
They cited the law. No point in denial. Sorry.
So McConnell was in charge? How is it Hannity missed that? You now realize that neither McConnell nor Pelosi was in charge of security. Neither she nor he appointed them to be responsible for security. Hannity probably knew that, but correctly assumed that you didn't know it.
People wondered why Trump, just a few weeks before he was to be replaced in the WH, suddenly appointed loyal underlings to key spots in the Pentagon. Here's why:
(Capitol Police Chief) Sund said that he asked the US military for help after the violence started but that Lt. Gen. Walter E. Piatt, the director of the US Army Staff, said he could not recommend sending in the Guard. Piatt, however, says he did not recommend against this and was only saying he didn't have the authority to deploy the additional Guardsmen, an approval process that took 40 more minutes during the siege.
Fact check: Nancy Pelosi wasn't ‘in charge’ of Capitol Police on Jan. 6
Hannity correctly assumed you didn't know that, too.
Piatt denied blocking Sund's request, saying: "I did not make the statement or any comments similar to what was attributed to me by Chief Sund in the Washington Post article."
"Neither I, nor anyone else from DoD, denied the deployment of requested personnel," he added, stressing that while he was leading the call, during which he told participants that he was not the approval authority, the secretary of the Army was talking to the acting defense secretary to get approval.
That's why Miller was put in charge; Espy would not have refused the request by police to send help.
And now you realize you were misled. In fact, Trump's guys in the Pentagon delayed deployment. For the reasons we all understand. The Chief did exactly what he should have done in asking for help, but Trump's newly-installed henchman in the Pentagon refused to help defend the Capitol.
USA Today .....almost as knowledgable as the kids acting as Journalists for Yahoo News .....You know the gang ......too young to buy anything stronger than Yohoo Chocolate drinks in the soda pop aisle ....
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Strangely quiet now that Biden owns the Classified document dump .......Strangely quiet as the FBI calls to ask permission to go through the Biden residences. Instead of going in with guns drawn at the dead of night. Strangely quiet cosidering those documents Biden has were in his possession for over six years. Strangely quiet that Obama has not said a word about Joe stealing classified documents he had no authority to possess ...The excuses are over ......the corvette excuse didn't work ....next ...
The FBI Trans Team needs to go through Jill's panty drawer .....
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14 hours ago, kwikphilly said:
I've heard many similar testimonies years ago when I did my internship in NYC - there were many nurses that came from different States,I couldn't imagine after taking the oath to do no harm that these things actually went on(& are highly likely still going on this day)
Same spirit- molech... nothing new under the sun😢
Personally I don't need confirmation from any news source,any investigations or otherwise- I know the Word of God and am very aware of spiritual warfare.Then again I don't need man's facts only God's Truth .....evil is rampant on this decaying,corruptable planet.
In Christs Love,Kwik
Her most startling experience. A 12 year old was being trafficated, became pregnant and gave birth in the hospital. The city, state and police were all over this event. The girl's mother was separated from the girl while the state worked on putting the girl at a home. One evening, my wife looked up while working in the maternity ward. Looking at her child, while holding her baby doll, was the twleve year old. My wife never forgot that image. The mother was arrested and eventually imprisoned. That was the only time, the ward was locked down because the mother wanted her income back in her possession. A threat to kill nurses and Doctors was made and the lockdown took place until the police could get the mother, by this time, in custody and charged.
My wife took still borns, cleaned them, wrapped them in a blanket and took them to the mother when requested. Time for the mother to see her baby and say good bye. Those babies always appeared to be peaceful and the most beautiful.
Keep the maternity nurses in your prayers ....while birth is a wonder for everyone ....the sideline stuff is haunting for the best of the nurses ......God has angels watching over those beds ...
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The CDC reported this pertaining to a new born alive bill that Sasse had propossed. Keep in mind ....this is the CDC and six states that had an existing law
In Minnesota, there were 10,177 abortions in the state in 2017 and three resulted in an infant born alive. None survived, according to the report from the state Department of Health. One infant was given “comfort care”; another was given no specific care; and the third had a low APGAR score, a measure of a newborn’s well-being.
Arizona enacted a law in August 2017 requiring physicians to report born-alive cases and to “document that all available means and medical skills were used to promote, preserve, and maintain the life of such fetus and embryo.” A state Department of Health Services report says: “From August 2017 to December 2017, 10 abortion reports involving fetus or embryo delivered alive were submitted to ADHS along with the physician’s statement documenting the measures taken to preserve the life of the fetus or embryo.” There were a total of 12,533 abortions performed for the full year.
And in Florida in 2018 there were six reported born-alive cases out of 70,083 abortions, according to state reports. As for late-term abortions, two occurred in the third trimester, one due to life endangerment and the other due to serious fetal defect.
In Oklahoma, there were no reports of infants born alive due to an abortion from 2012 through 2014 and again in 2016. For 2015 and 2017, the state reports don’t contain figures for that reporting requirement. Also, Texas reported zero live births as a result of an abortion for the three years for which that information is available, 2013 to 2015.
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18 hours ago, kwikphilly said:
Mmm,yeah- I was thinking that too actually - after Bluedragons " cure"-being sarcastic(as was I)
Perhaps Bluedragons has some info,I really don't do much on the internet - I saw something about this on a news station(& I barely look at the news)
My wife was a RN at a time when RN's were required to start each semester with an A in the class before proceedng. Her first job, (Number one in her class) was to serve as the Maternity Ward nurse while the Head nurse served her last three months before retirement. The nurse retired and my wife took over as Head Nurse. Alabama Hospitals performed abortions. She became Head Nurse while refusing to go into the surgery room while one was performed. They never had a botched abortion. The practice at the time was to place a live born baby in the closet in the surgical room next door and simply close the door and leave. That has a been a practice of some states for a long time. I feel that if the baby is born alive, give the baby medical care and should the baby live.....give the baby up for adoption. Do not kill the baby especially well after the failed abortion.
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On 1/16/2023 at 6:13 PM, The Barbarian said:
Montana is a hotbed of libertarianism. Conservative sometimes, but always anti-government outside of a very restricted number of functions. I think the libertarians, more than the left, were responsible for this one.
The reality is that when an abortion is botched ,,,,,they generally take the live baby and leave it in vacant room, closet etc alone ...If the baby is alive and will live, why not turn it over to an adoption agency right away? Born alive and left untended is Murder ...If society calls upon the police to hunt down a new mother trying to hide a birth by leaving the baby to die ...... that law should apply in this case as well. Legislators should be well aware of what exisitng state law covers the situation.
Montana abortion rates are miniscule compared to other states .....They care more about cattle than humans ....
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Want to cure that? Require the few abortion clinics that exist to follow this practice. Live birth after botched abortion. Take the baby to the mother, put it into her arms ....."Here, hold this while we clean up .....Should be dead before we finish."
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On 1/14/2023 at 4:45 AM, Debp said:
Talking about septic tanks. Did you hear about the California Amazon driver who fell into the septic tank the other day? He was up to his knees in the "stuff." After being rescued, he went back to delivering his packages.
Amazon did send another driver to take half of the 100 packages.
Bet that was a day where you could smell him well before he arrived .....
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15 hours ago, other one said:
My wife was not happy over the whole thing though... actually that's pretty much a gross understatement. LoL One just does not tell the totally irrational things one's wife does when surprised.
We lived on Lay Lake in Alabama for five years. I was emtying trash cans and saw what I thought was piece of unraveld carpet across the back of the toilet. Reached down to pick it up ....It moved ....Stapped back and told my wife "Stad here for a minute and watch this thing." ""What is it?" "Snake" Then had to counter with "Calm down, just watch him." returned with a plstic shallow dish piece of tupperware and dropped it over him. He kept hitting the side of the dish. Got a paper plate, slide it under the tupperware, to lock him in.
"What kind is it?" "Copperhead, see the head?" Wife goes more ballistic .....
Walked him out across the front yard, out on the dock and dropped him into the water. We had an eight pound bass living under the dock and she didn't disappoint. Snake hit the water and BAM! ......no snake.
I was more worried about what would have happened if one of us had gotten bitten and not seen the snake ....
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9 hours ago, Slibhin said:
Did you get fired from CNN or something?
OOppppppps! Another batch of classified files found at anther secret Biden location .....Got to hand to these guys ......always leaving stuff behind and never remember where they lost it .......
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Thank you team Biden .....You are not authorized to keep Classified Materials taken during Biden's tenure as Vice Presdient ...
You certainly have no authorization to declare them unclassified ......
Only the President of the United States has that authority .....
Any move by the DOJ makes this political, as it always has been, and will get it dropped at the feet of the Supreme Court .....
File Gate is officially over.
Good move team Biden ......
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Just now, kwikphilly said:
Probably because it seems he lies about not everything but " anything",lol
This is what happens when you rely of the stupidity of CNN. They stopped short when their agenda was supposedly answered. After all Journalists are not the sharptest tools in the shed.....
The Capital Police Board is manned by five people .....Pay attention now ....I know this is above the pay grade of liberals. After all CNN failed .....liberals fail ....
This fact was ignored by CNN because they thought they had their answer.
Members of the Capital Police Board include .......
The House Sergent of Arms that Represents NANCY PELOSI. He works for her at her bidding. She can fire him at any time. He answers to Nancy Pelosi
The Senate Sergent of Arms that represents MITCH MCCONNELL. He works for him, Mitch can fire him at any time. At the time, He answered to Mitch McConnell.
Short of having Nancy and Mitch sitting on the Board ......they are represented by the Sergent of Arms and serve the wishes of Nancy and Mitch. This also means that ultimately Nancy and Mitch command the Capital Police. They are reponsible as Leaders .....
The emails and text of both Nancy and Mitch will be part of the investigation of the Republican desire to strengthen the security of the Capital. Meanwhile, the Independent Council will conduct his own investigation.
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Just now, The Barbarian said:
By law, she is not responsible for security in the Capitol. But she could implement procedural rules within the House chambers and offices. Not even that, for the rest of the Capitol, though. I don't know why Sean Hannity would lie about something so easily debunked.
One of these days, you'll learn to stop using CNN as a primary source for anything reliable. Until then, everything stated using CNN is to be taken with a "grain of salt"
CNN and their "Fact Check" is dead wrong.
Who does the Capital Police report to ? The Capital Police Board.
Who sits on the Capital Police Board?
The Sergent of Arms of the House and the Senate, Architect of the Capital and the Cheif of Police. In other words .....Pelosi and McConnell.
CNN doesn't know that .....
Intelligence Sources told the White House, Speaker, the Senate, The Capital Police and the Pentagon of the threats being sent through social media platforms. In December. The Capital Police requested more man power on site for January 6th. The decision not to provide increased manpower in form of more police or the National Guard was made because of "Optics"
The White House issued approval for National Guard Troops. The Capital Police was aware of that approval . Well before January 6th.
Who made the decision to deny the request?
Like it not, the staffs of Pelosi and McConnel failed both sides of the Building. If we review the articles of responsibility .....Pelosi, McConnell and Campbell are at fault for the failure. Again the excuse "OPTICS"
Therefore, if the Capital Police must ask permission for increased presence on the grounds and Pelosi and McConnell are utlmately responsible plus Campbell.....before they are authorized to make the order .......CNN is dead wrong in their ignorant assessment.
The sheer stupidity of layer after layer of board committees in the decision process is proof positive example of a group of failures. This layer process resulted in a 70 minute delay for the Pentagon to order the National Guard to go, yet according to tha National Guard 1100 were in buses ready to respond ...They were on duty and staged to respond .......Soeone made the dicision to keep them away from the Capital.
Laughable ....not one part of this was a result of two years of circle jerk investigations by the January 6th Committee .....
The lies need to stop .....That includes the news media. The Capital has been attacked multiple times in the past. Yet we have a group of politcal hacks claiming otherwise.
The Republican Committee better end in a more relaible stance of protections for everyone in the House and Senate ..... otherwise they are as useless as the fraud that recently produced a meaningless toothless report about politics .....Congressman have been shot in the past while the capital was stormed ...
Note to Committee ......Don't invite CNN or MSNBC or Fox to the Party ....
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On 1/5/2023 at 5:49 PM, teddyv said:
How so? His main thesis seems to be that they were not adequately prepared and that problem still exists today.
Read the book. Then compare the book with the Inspector General's Report. Then compare both to the fraud January 6th Committee report ....
The holes are in the structure of what is supposed to be the protection of the Capital. It started with the person directly reponsible for the protection .......Nancy Pelosi., Intelligence was warning them of the planned attacks on the Capital. Curious that the Democrats resist the idea that Antifa had anything to do with the attack. Yet the FBI was telling the Capital that Antifaa would be in the crowd. Over 40 banded together were on site and causing problems early. Yet, according to the Democrats, they were not there ....laughable. They had Intelligence Reports starting in Mid December
That will be resolved. The truth will come out from the people that were supposed to be in charge of security. People never called to the Fraud Committee. Also keep in mind ........Murder doesn't have statuatory protections .......One person was killed in the protest. It wasn't a police officer .
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On 1/5/2023 at 6:24 PM, The Barbarian said:
It's going to take a huge fairy tale to cover up the evidence so far. Sund doesn't seem to provide any exculpatory evidence that would help Trump escape indictment.
Yup, Biden is in over his head .....He will go down ...
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It's too bad the liberals still believe in fairy tales .....
Released today. The Book that destroys the January 6th Committee
Former Capital Police Chief Steven A. Sund Set To Publish A New Book About The Attack On January 6 With Explosive Never-Before-Revealed Information
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On 11/8/2022 at 2:43 PM, The Barbarian said:
I'm thinking that stealing classified documents and lying about it to the authorities will probably bring on a lot of attention from law enforcement.
I think you and others need to deeply study the Constitution and Executive Powers ...
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9 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:
God said to Moses "I am the God of Abraham and Issac and Jacob...
Those people had died long time ago...but God said to Moses that he is still their God that he never stopped being their God...
There is nothing left of their body...and their bodies were buried some place...what God said to Moses had nothing to do with their bodies because those people had died long time ago...
They must know that God is still their God after the had died. And they must know that they are together.
When Issac died he must know that he went to where Abraham was and when Jacob died he also must have been conscious to know that he was in the same place with Abraham and with his Father Issac...they must be waiting for him because this is what God had told to Abraham by oath.
That he will know that his promise to him will come to pass.
To Issac God said that he will be gathered to his ancestors and the same thing he said to Jacob and to many others and to David...
All of them they must be conscious to know that the word of the Lord was truth and that at the time of their death were not gathered to him but they were to their Father Abraham...
God informed them that they will not be gathered to him because they were his people and he was their God...but he also told them that Abraham was not gathered to him....and they will know that and they will expect their children to also gathered to them..together with Abraham their Patriarch....
They were set apart on earth from the rest of the world and they also were set apart from the rest of the world at death...
They had nothing to do with their bodies and no promise was given to them about their bodies...still the only promise they had was from dust to dust so they knew that they will continue to live without their bodies from the time of their death and forwards.
If someone says something not align with that he must have his reasons and he must also hope for something and that he believes that he cannot have it unless he can have his .body of flesh back unless he is in the same way he was before he died...in his physical body...
Their hope is only for the earthly and have nothing to do with the Heavenly....because nothing earthly can inherit the Heaven of the Heavenly Father...
Only through Jesus Christ who had both the Heavenly and the earthly...
We can only be welcomed by God because of Jesus Christ...
Who can be with God because he was with God before he was born like us...so we can be with Jesus because he was like us. He died for mankind only....his died for all humanity....the atonement in his blood was not made in the Temple but outside the Temple....
Jesus shed his blood outside the Temple...and only blood shed in the Temple can be use to make Atonement.
Their bodies were left on earth and their Soul was taken to Abraham who he also was in his Soul because he experienced the physical death and they were so many witnesses that they showed his body buried...and they know what happens to the buried body....
Next time I will be brief...I repeat the same things but not for you but for others.
We agree....however, the debate is driven by those who misread the Bible and defend the concept that soul and body sleeps until the second coming .....That's not what is said ....
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15 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:
Thank you for the narrative.
God said to Moses "I am the God of Abraham and Issac and Jacob...
He is telling Moses a lot of things with a simple statement like that...
Jesus said that he is telling that he is the God of the living and for that matter not the God of the dead...
From this passage we know that there is a God for the dead....for the people who died....
Abraham, Issac and Jacob had already died but at death they were set apart from the dead of the rest of the world...
I understand that they are different ways of saying the same thing as long as we do not wonder from the principle that the people of God at death they continue to be the children of the Lord God Almighty....and they were alive to him...
The debate is driven by the statement that the body is asleep. Correct, the body is asleep .... There is not one reliable bit of evidence about the soul, other than this in Luke and one of the Psalms ....I'll take the word of Jesus and his use of this parable to define exactly what happens at death. He specifically says the soul is escorted by Angels ....Bodies didnt' go to Sheol .....souls went to Sheol.
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Just now, Alive said:
I would suggest food for thought. The disciples being Jews of their time, believed all kinds of things that were wrong...so that account cannot be reliably used to make a point.
Where in scripture is there a person without a body?
The Bible says when Lazarus died, he was also buried. But notice what happened to him in verse 22: “Now the poor man died and was carried away by the angels to Abraham’s bosom.” Notice what the angels did here: Lazarus was not alone in his death. At the moment of his death, God sent His angels to come and usher him into Heaven. The Bible teaches that if you are a Christian, one day God will send His angels to escort you into the presence of His Son.
Odd when you read the scripture that a key element is missing in this parable. Anyone care to take a swing at it? I'll solve the riddle .....Only one person in the parable is mentioned by name. Lazarus's name is in the book of life. He goes to Sheol .....The rich man is not named, not in the book of life ...he gets separated and is on the other side of the gap ....Hades ....However, he / his soul has knowledge of existence ....If Jesus went to Sheol to free the captives .....they are referred to as prisoners. They are aware in Sheol ..those in Hades are aware...then every person that dies is aware of their death and is aware of their existence ....they are not dead spiritually. They are dead in body.
Take it a step further .....As Jesus is dying on the cross, he tells the believing criminal "Today you will join me in paradise. Paradise was a nickname for Sheol. Why would that man accompany Christ to Sheol?
The Bible does not mention what angels escorted Jesus to Sheol. but I'm willing to take a wild guess .....
Simple .....the gates of Sheol had to be open by Jesus for those souls to be accompanied to heaven. Sheol exists no more .....it is an empty room.
So to answer the question ......Jesus solved the riddle ......he answered the question of what happens to a believer when he dies and his spirit is escorted to heaven, in this case originally to Sheol ....then all those freed escorted to heaven ....
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12 minutes ago, NotMyRealName said:
Every answer you get is an opinion even if they are vehement about it and include lots of bible verses, some not really applicable or out of context. Here is my opinion for what it's worth.
My bible says over and over and over that the dead are sleeping (until the end time). I do not know where. I suppose the saved are somehow with Jesus, but it makes no sense to me that they are in heaven and the condemned in Hell, else what is the judgement day for? This, for whatever reason, is not what I perceive the popular opinion. Everyone wants to believe their loved one went directly to heaven. Some people try to explain the dead are sleeping passages as they pertain only to the body which is resurrected. The flesh rots away, so I don't understand their argument. Perhaps God is to take the atoms and molecules and create a new body. Also, the term "spiritual body" is perhaps the greatest example of an oxymoron I can imagine - a bit like saying night-day, yes-no, positive-negative. A body is by definition tangible while "spiritual" is by definition non-tangible. And yes, I know the term "spiritual body" is in some bibles.
Generally I beware those who seem to have all the answers. There are many, many religious things I don't know or understand. If St. Paul said now we see through a glass darkly, and he was closer to the Lord than any of us will ever be in the flesh, then who am I to proclaim that I have all the answers?
The body yes ..but...The soul never dies ...It goes to heaven. Read more carefully and realize that the debate is over a body versus the soul ......Disagree? Even the Disciples believed they were seeing a ghost as Jesus walked on water ......The spirit realm is very real ...
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Just now, JohnD said:
"Endless diatribe?" Okay, I'll make it simple for you.
When the body dies:
- the spirit departs and goes to be with the Lord if you are a Christian, or it goes to Sheol
- the soul which you are so bewildered / concerned about is the buffer between the two realities of flesh and spirit. It is that which ceases to exist when we die.
- the flesh ceases to function (appearing to sleep) and decays into the base elements
Since you are overly concerned about the length of the entries here, I'll leave it at that for now.
Don't need a book to make a point .....use refernce pooints instead of endless unread copy.
The case is simple .....Sheol exists no more. The point has been made .....Jesus is the only way into heaven .....there is no longer a safe haven for those who don't believe in Jesus. The existence of Sheol was because man had no knowledge of Jesus, because he hadn't existed or been resurrected. The soul separates at death and the new body will be combined with the soul after the creation of the new earth.
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I get to decide what is unwholesome!
In football I have a little yellow flag to signal that I've heard enough.
In baseball, I clean up real fast ...
I sometimes think that life would be betteer if we could approach it like the zebras or guys in blue on an athletic field.
Funny story.....After a penalty following a touchdown, the home team didn't care much about our interpretation of the rulebook. We were right, they were wrong. The Special Teams Coach was trying to pump up his players "We are not going to allow the Officials to steal this "F.ing" game." I thought "Did I ust hear what I thought I heard and can it be heard in the stands?" He did it again ....Our Umpire was on the other side of the field when one of the chain crew said "Someone said something he didn't like!" There went my flag climbing into the night's sky. Mike said "Only Ray can throw one that high."
After a lengthy discussion and 15 yards of Unsportsmanlike Conduct .....we cautioned the sideline and coaches about language on the sidelines ...We won, they lost, end of the story ....... They were good little boys afterward ....That was the coaches .....Zebras win again .....undefeated in 25 years ....