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I agree...and have taken on board what you have said. watch me,xoxo

What do you mean? why are you accusing me of being divisive, I’m not...I believe God placed what i said on my heart, therefore was obedient and spoke it out..that is my belief..then I get accused of being a troll and that I’m being divisive.

For your information Brother, I was here for a number of years, I came back under a different name, I was never banned...maybe you will now realise I’m not really new. i guess you admins stick together,eh?

Not understanding you Brother. I’m from the UK.?

@other one said to me above......I say Brother, please check out @FreeGrace posts to me.

Brother, have you seen how a admin has spoken to me on that other topic I started he called me a troll...and that I wasn’t acting in a Christ like manner..can you believe that...and he was? Go read his post...unbelievable.

How can a Born Again die if they stopped reading the Bible, as we have been Born Again of imperishable seed? The only thing that would happen is...we couldn’t grow in Gods word. The Enduring Word (Isaiah 40:6–8) 22Since you have purified your souls by obedience to the truth so that you have a genuine love for your brothers, love one another deeply, from a pure heart.e 23For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God. 24For, “All flesh is like grass, and all its glory like the flowers of the field; the grass withers and the flowers fall, 25but the word of the Lord stands forever.”f And this is the word that was proclaimed to you.

Amen, we have been Born Again of imperishable seed...even without the Bible Gods word...we still have that Living seed of God in our hearts as we have been Born Again of imperishable seed.we are still Alive in his Spirit.. The only thing that would happen is...we could never grow in Gods Living word.. The Enduring Word (Isaiah 40:6–8) 22Since you have purified your souls by obedience to the truth so that you have a genuine love for your brothers, love one another deeply, from a pure heart.e 23For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God. 24For, “All flesh is like grass, and all its glory like the flowers of the field; the grass withers and the flowers fall, 25but the word of the Lord stands forever.”f And this is the word that was proclaimed to you.

Unfortunately you have done the same...you;say that Jesus isn’t explaining to Nicodemus how we are Born Again?

Ok, point taken..I’m open for correcting from the right person, if you;get my meaning,LOL

The reason being that is not speaking Born Again scripture. We are Baptised in the Spirit as Jesus explains to Nicodemus..which you have denied I’m afraid. We are baptised in the Spirit when we believe in Jesus, if God decides to baptise us in the Spirit...like Jesus explains to Nicodemus being Born Again of Gods seed, is like the wind you can’t see it coming or where it is going so is everyone Born of the Spirit...yet, you refute what Jesus explains to Nicodemus how we are Born Again..you say it’s not saying what Jesus is saying it’s saying...therefore you aren’t also addressing that scripture. Scripture you post as I’ve said before...we are Born Again and saved from eternal damnation...why do you keep leaving Born Again out of it?..it’s like you aren’t familiar with what Born Again means?

Without God given Faith no one could ever believe that he exists....no one would know who he is. Without God given faith it’s impossible to please him... 1 Corinthians 12:7-11 1 Corinthians 12:7-11 KJV But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal. For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; to another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; to another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues: but all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will. 1 Corinthians 12:7-11 1 Corinthians 12:7-11 KJV But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal. For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; to another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; to another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues: but all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will. A Born Again is Born Again of imperishable seed, I too am trying to help you understand that the word of God is his Living word is his seed? What does God mean when he says a Born Again is Born Again of imperishable seed? What does seed mean...if it’s not the Holy Spirit seed, Gods Living word, his seed, please explain?

Faith is a gift of the Spirit.. manifestation of the Spirit, check it out...Gods word proves you wrong. Without God given Faith, you wouldn’t know who God was.

You have once again posted no scripture of what Born Again means...that scripture you post is your own spin on it. Jesus has proved you wrong, because he told Nicodemus how we become Born Again. you post Gods word out of context..it’s Born Again and saved from eternal damnation....you are way out of context..you just post random quotes of scripture.and then put your own spin on it.

You have once again posted no Born Again scripture, just your spin on what you believe that scripture to be saying. Jesus is the one who has proved you wrong on how we become Born Again.. hearing im afraid has nothing to do with becoming Born Again of imperishable seed..which you still haven’t explained. Sorry, it looks like you lead yourself through scripture .... What also is a carnal mind? please explain what it is? and try not to google the answer.as I will be questioning you on what it means.

One cannot believe in God without God given Faith..which is a manifestation of the Spirit.... @FreeGrace doesn’t understand this , as he doesn’t understand what Born Again of imperishable seed means..he just dodges question after question ..he told me Gods word is not a seed,LOL...that’s how much he knows of the word...I understand now, why he speaks the way he does.

How can you believe in God without God given Faith, which is a manifestation of the Spirit? It would be impossible....

James 2:19 “Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.”

I have asked you questions, please don’t change the subject..please answer my questions..which were biblical?..thank you.

This scripture is very clear to those who have been Born Again of imperishable seed...which means what exactly, please answer the question? ...God is the initiator and God does it all...the process of him drawing us to Jesus etc,etc, and Spirit gives birth to spirit...he does it all.... we are just the vessel that God uses to bring us to his Son , then like the wind, who we can’t see or know where it comes from.or where it’s going.so it is everyone who is Born of the Spirit as he explains to Nicodemus. Please answer my questions, you never answer them? ...God is the initiator and God does it all...the process of him drawing us to Jesus etc,etc, and Spirit gives birth to spirit...he does it all.... we are just the vessel that God uses to bring us to his Son , then like the wind, who we can’t see or know where it comes from.or where it’s going.so it is everyone who is Born of the Spirit as he explains to Nicodemus. You have posted nothing biblical, just your spin on the Bible....where is your Born Again scripture? ...God is the initiator and God does it all...the process of him drawing us to Jesus etc,etc, and Spirit gives birth to spirit...he does it all.... we are just the vessel that God uses to bring us to his Son , then like the wind, who we can’t see or know where it comes from.or where it’s going.so it is everyone who is Born of the Spirit as he explains to Nicodemus. We are Born Again of imperishable seed, you said Gods seed is not his Living word? So, what does being Born Again of imperishable seed mean then, if it’s not the Living word of God...the seed he plants in a Born Again is his seed, which will take root ,flourish and grow, why , because his seed is his Living word? ...God is the initiator and God does it all...the process of him drawing us to Jesus etc,etc, and Spirit gives birth to spirit...he does it all.... we are just the vessel that God uses to bring us to his Son , then like the wind, who we can’t see or know where it comes from.or where it’s going.so it is everyone who is Born of the Spirit as he explains to Nicodemus. None of what you post above is referring to how we are Born Again...again it’s your own spin on what “ you” believe Born Again means and it’s very evident in what you post.plus you never answer my questions, sadly...

@FreeGrace God is the initiator and God does it all...the process of him drawing us to Jesus etc,etc, and Spirit gives birth to spirit...he does it all.... we are just the vessel that God uses to bring us to his Son , then like the wind, who we can’t see or know where it comes from..so it is everyone who is Born of the Spirit as he explains to Nicodemus

I have no understanding of what you mean when you say ,glad to hear you are a “ believer “...I am Born Again, received the gift of Faith from God...a manifestation of the Spirit..which is one of the gifts of the Spirit? Maybe I posted in the wrong forum. I have never read any of what Calvin believes..therefore no knowledge of the man. i am only led through God’s Living word, by the Holy Spirit, who brings all of God’s truth to my understanding. edit to add...Believing in God comes from God, how can you believe in God without His Spirit? When we are Born Again of Gods Living word, his seed, that is his Living word,..he plants the seed of faith into our hearts, when he brings us to himself,Born Again of His Spirit...Spirit gives birth to spirit?

That is just your own opinion, you do not read on how “God qualifies us to become Born Again,” that an act of God.....please post scripture where God says you must qualify before you enter my Kingdom? plus what you say here is not biblical..therefore just your own opinion. Jesus explains all about the wind, and explains so are those who are Born of the Spirit. Born of the Spirit? All of what I posted is found in scripture..please prove it wrong. That is not saying one is Born Again..that is understood once one is “ Born Again “ We are not saved not until we have received Gods Spirit into our heart/ spirit, when God decides , when he comes to us like the wind, you never know when he will decide to Spirit gives birth to spirit...of course there is a process to becoming Born Again...but there is no process if God decides to Baptise us in the Holy Spirit. So far none of what you have said is biblical..you post scripture, then you put your own spin on it. I don’t agree that our spirit is dead...show me in scripture where God says our spirit is dead, he doesn’t he says “ spiritually dead” therefore once again you add your own spin on the meaning of scripture, therefore sow confusion on Gods word. The Holy Spirit is like the wind, he can show up at anytime and make a huge impact on a persons life, when “ Spirit gives birth to spirit...just like the wind can make itself known...so does the Holy Spirit...when Spirit gives birth to spirit..it’s mind blowing do you understand that? Jesus explains to Nicodemus that the Holy Spirit is like the wind, that is biblical, your spin on that scripture isn’t biblical.its just your own opinion. Indeed..did I say the Holy Spirit was visible?..therefore you have just contradicted yourself..you now agree that the Holy Spirit is like the wind.? The passage to Nicodemus where Jesus explains that the Holy Spirit is like the wind...he explains that is how we are Born of the Spirit?.we Become Born Again , because we can’t see when we are about to be Born Again when Spirit gives birth to spirit.... Because the Spirit is like the wind you can’t see him and you don’t know where he goes, so, as of yet, you haven’t been able to refute that by using scripture. You post scripture of your own opinions of what God’s word to be saying and still continue to do so...you put your own spin on scripture. Already explained that, see above. Once again you are trying to confuse, saying I said the above, which I didn’t, see my posts above? Jesus was explaining we are Born Again like the wind....we can’t see the Holy Spirit or where he is going, just like the wind we can’t see him...when he decides to Baptise us in the Holy Spirit. All that Jesus is explaining to Nicodemus is true...the Holy Spirit can’t be seen and that is how we are Born Again..just like the wind, it can’t be seen, ..why you are having difficulty in understanding that scripture is puzzling? We are also Born Again of imperishable seed? on another thread you said God isn’t a seed, therefore once again twisting my words. Are you denying that Gods “ WORD” is a Living seed that is planted ? Where is Gods seed planted?

Another thing about being Born Again..you do not have to read a Bible in order for God to cause you to become Born Again of imperishable seed...as in when Spirit gives birth to spirit, that’s an act of God. As soon as I was Born Again, I went straight out and bought a Bible, through Gods Living word we get to know him and as we have that new heart/ Spirit within..that is how we mature and grow in Christ...as the Holy Spirit witnesses to our spirit Gods truth.. We could live without the Bible as we have been Born Again of imperishable seed, therefore he lives in our heart for all of eternity...so we would never die in spirit, what we would do is never grow and mature in Christ...we need that living word the Bible to grow and mature.and to know exactly what we are talking about as it’s the Spirit that leads us through scripture and brings Gods truth to our understanding. Also there are thousands and thousands who have similar testimonies like mine....because God is a Spirit and like the wind you never know when he will turn up..and we never know where he is going....just like he tried to explain to Nicodemus....Nicodemus didn’t understand because he wasn’t Born Again.he couldn’t understand that like the wind that is everywhere so is the Holy Spirit.......God cannot be contained he is everywhere and sees everything...Praise God.

◄ 1 Peter 1 ► Berean Standard Bible Par ▾ A Greeting from Peter (2 Peter 1:1–2) 1Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, To the elect who are exiles of the Dispersion throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, chosena 2according to the foreknowledge of God the Father and sanctified by the Spirit for obedience to Jesus Christ and sprinkling by His blood: Grace and peace be yours in abundance. A Living Hope 3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! By His great mercy He has given us new birthb into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4and into an inheritance that is imperishable, undefiled, and unfading, reserved in heaven for you, 5who through faith are shielded by God’s power for the salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time. 6In this you greatly rejoice, though now for a little while you may have had to suffer grief in various trials 7so that the proven character of your faith—more precious than gold, which perishes even though refined by fire—may result in praise, glory, and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ. 8Though you have not seen Him, you love Him; and though you do not see Him now, you believe in Him and rejoice with an inexpressible and glorious joy, 9now that you are receiving the goal of your faith, the salvation of your souls. 10Concerning this salvation, the prophets who foretold the grace to come to you searched and investigated carefully, 11trying to determine the time and setting to which the Spirit of Christ in them was pointing when He predicted the sufferings of Christ and the glories to follow. 12It was revealed to them that they were not serving themselves, but you, when they foretold the things now announced by those who preached the gospel to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven. Even angels long to look into these things