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I'm sorry but 5-6 unreferences quotes prove nothing.

No a real Scientist is one that is wholly impartial. Being a Christian and a scientist does not lead to impartiality. You cannot be objective if you believe in a conflicting "world view".

Thats probably the most stupid thing (not counting Arthurs last comment) that i've read all day. Care to back that up with some scientific prove? And not the kind you find on a "Christian Scientist" website. I'm talking proper medical/biological journal articles agreeing with that propostion. And Arthur, do you realise your comment is actually racist?

If I write a book that states the opinion that the world is in fact flat, supported by 4 elephants and carried on the back of a giant turtle thats swimming through space. Would people laugh at me if I only used that book as my only source of proof as to why said book is correct? And please, you believe every word of the old testament is correct? Is that including all the contradictions or not?

Ohh yet another post on worthy that only consists of someone elses article and a statement on how whatever the article says is true. Sorry to disappoint you but there are thousands of studies that prove evolution happens, that one article does nothing to change that.

No thats swamp gas.

My sources lead me to believe 9 people where crucified at the same time. http://bau2.uibk.ac.at/sg/python/Images/crucifiction.jpg

And as you pointed out in a different thread our laws are based on the bible.

Super Jew, have you failed to notice that I am comparing Islam and Christianity. As far as I, and many other atheists are concerned, its virtually the same religion but with different view points. Every mistake one has made the other has as well. The difference is that the West has developed socially and technologically at a far greater rate than the East. And has lead Islam to be, in certain parts of the world, a religion that is out of date. Do not forget that it was only about 100 years ago that the suffragette movement started and became prevalent in the U.K. which lead to women eventually having equal social status as men. It

Ted no offense that but passage shows no feelings towards the status of women. The ones I quotes clearly show that the man is more important. Why else would they ban a woman from speaking and teaching in church?

1 Tim 2:8-11 I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting. In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works. Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 1 Tim 3:14,15; 2:11-15 These things write I unto thee, hoping to come unto thee shortly: But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth. Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety. 1 Cor 14:33b-35,37 As in all churches of the saints. Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord. Eph 5:18, 22-24 And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit; ... Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. What was that you where saying about Islam and the subjection of women? And do I really have to mention the crusades again?

Examine my heart? My heart is nothing more than a pump. Four chambers, used for pushing oxygenated blood around my body. It serves no other purpose. You

People using the excuse of the Lord sanctioned warfare. Jesus said we would be known by our fruits. Those who sanctioned the crusades in the name of God were not showing the fruit of the Lord. Jesus never told us to do such a thing. Never. Yet islam does say to war against unbelievers. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, no? What you seem to be missing is that the leaders of your faith sanctioned that warfare. People who have written texts that are the cornerstone of you faith have sanctioned warfare in its name. Nobody, nobody questioned whether or not it was the right or wrong thing to do. Gods appointed Shepard

As I had no interest in what anyone else was posting other than Ayin. See below. Wow, someone that actually realises different translations breed different meaning. Ayin doesn't, she doesn't even know how to reference information properly so it can be judged to be reliable or not. By your own admission the quote she provided could have been doctored by the website it came from. Does that mean the quote is "evil" or the people that doctored it? Why should I? No matter what you say, Christianity sanctioned warefare in its name. Nothing you say will change that. It's not innocent,

Sorry but thats a load of rubbish, i've already shown I can find my own Qu'ran quotes, so you really don't need to worry about giving me access to something of the devil. I already do by your logic. And if you think Islam is evil, you are doing nothing more than making the culture problem between east/west islam/christianity worse.

Rather bold of you to make that statement since you claimed earlier that you worship a penguin named timmy. It's Augustus the Monkey now, duuuur! (You need to look up the word Irony) Surprisingly enough thats where you're wrong. I am able to hold my hands up and say I was wrong. Why can't you supply the link where you got your quote from, worried about how reliable it is, in the face of 3 opposing quotes from different sources?

Way to ignore the other 2 quotes, you know the ones from educational establishments, yes you only get a *.edu if your a registered college/university. And you haven't even bothered linking to where you got yours from. So pardon me if I believe those and not yours. I refuse to believe anything you post without links to the sources. Unfortunately your word is not good enough.

Do I have to carry on wasting my time finding sources that show that Christianity also condoned violence in the name of Christ, or do you all get the point?

In part of surah 47:4 Thus [you are ordered by All

Actions speak louder than words. Unfortunatly. You claim to have read the Qu'ran so where in it does it say that? All of those are your own personal beliefs and opinions. I am currently worshiping a small penguin called timmy. And to me you're a heretic.

I can't see where they are the same. When you ask a Muslim he will tell you that Allah tells them to kill anyone who does not believe as they do. No they are not the same. Have you ever heard of the Crusades? You know, the Vatican sanctioned Holy War. Where Christian knights went to the Middle East and killed the non believers without impunity. Do not think for one second that your religion is innocent. The Islam extremists are not indicative of the Islamic faith and it's not fair to judge Islam by their actions. Do you want Christians to be judged by the Ku Klux Klan and other right wing Christian extremist groups? No? Well find a dictionary and look up the word tolerance. And then apply that new found knowledge to the Islamic religion.

I'm just wondering how you all explain away Homo floresiensis.

Newspapers don't equate to facts. Newspapers love to report Elvis sightings. Does that mean he's still alive? And yes you have touched a raw nerve. Bigitory like this annoys [edit] me. The fact is you probably work with/know/hangout with several gay people and don't know it. They just don't want to tell you because of your archaic beliefs. What you have to ask yourself is, "Is it right that my beliefs stop another being open with me". Oh and realise that just because you believe something, doesn't mean it's right

Your first question is a decent one, and one that everybody wants an answer to. Your second is bang out of order. What are you trying to do, compare homosexuals and paedophiles? Why even mention them in the same sentence, except to attempt "shock tactics". Ill make this clear to you now Homosexuals aren't paedophiles, they don't behave like them and they abhor their behaviour just as much as any hetrosexual.