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God also knows the intent in your heart and hears it as well. For some, slavation comes immediately and for others it takes a while. I don't know why this is, but I believe its God's will.

Oh, then if Nebula is talking to me he/she is mistaken. I have experienced more than most should. Keith, you are sick. I have raised snakes, lizards, scorpions, rats, mice, cats, dogs, turtles... The normal stuff. My first encounter with a scorpion, it was wild caught and an friend set it in my hand telling me everything would be ok and not to move suddenly. I was pefectly still when it flipped that tail up and over and into my palm. I slammed my other hand down on it and SQUISH! After that, I only ever messed with the black Emperor variety which has a weak sting and is very docile. I never got stung, but I wouldn't handle it a lot either. I once held a taratula. I used to visit a specialty shop often and knew the owner. He said, "I've got some new pink legs in that are very docile, second generation captives. You should pick on up like I showed you and try it". I went to the glass and looked and there in one of the tanks was these reddish, pinkish, huge spiders, with lots of hair and just huge fangs. I open the top and placed my finger on its back. It hissed louder than a truck, and reared, so I yelled, "Hey, do these things bite? Its hissing like the dickens!" and he yelled back (still in the back handling the new boas) "They might hiss a little, but they don't bite - they can, but they don't." I went ahead and picked it up. I knew Ron for years, he never lied to me. I placed it on my arm because the thing was huge - too big for my hand. It was pissed and reared and hissed, but just calmed down eventually. It was boring. Sitting there. Ron came back and frooze and the look on his face made me nbearly cry (a full grown man, who is very allergic to wasp venom, you see my point?). He said, softly, "Dave... I want you to lower you arm to the counter and let me get it off you." I did, and the thing walked off on its own. Ron used a small carrier to catch it (it sat there), and he put it back in the tank. He then looked at me and said, "Dave, that's a babboon. Its not nice and its bite can be deadly. The pinks are over there." The sad part is that moments later I had to run outside as I convulsed (you know what I mean) from the stress suddenly coming over me. So you handle them spiders all you want, Keith. I am too much of a wuss to get near them if they are outside the glass.

There was a "Missing Day" thingy about how NASA rolled back the universe and the comps stopped and there was this missing day. Then they calculated 23 hours and 20 minutes from the day in Joshua and the reamaining 40 minutes from the time the sun moved backwards 10 degrees. This was a hoax and had nothing to do with what I was saying or was going to say.

I was scared by "The Skeleton Key". *shudders* I enjoy being scared, but that movie was the creepy kind where the story twists and the ride is wild. And on top of that, its something that could happen in the world of the demonic. It takes a lot to creep me out, but that did it. And spiders. Spiders are just creepy with there eyes, hairly legs, big fangs, and the way they jump on you and suck the juices out. *screams*

Wrong. 1 - Thou shalt have no other gods before me. 2 - Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness [of any thing] that [is] in heaven above, or that [is] in the earth beneath, or that [is] in the water under the earth: You shall not bow down and worship them for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God...

Would I burn my Bible? Probably not. I do need to get a different version though. I have a NIV Life Application and though the studies are excellent, there are abherrant things within the NIV I have only recently been made aware of.

They don't hold commercial events for it. If they celebrate it, they do so quietly. Its now a secular holiday. When was the last time anyone looked at another person in a costume and said, "There's a Christian celebrating Halloween!" It just doesn't happen. When's the last time we heard that someone's child turned to the devil because "Halloween rules"? These things just don't happen. Look, you can be self-persecutive and maybe it works for you, but for me things are within the context and when people blow them out of context like this it is simply fanaticism. You have to either celebrate in the intent or not, and Holloween is not celebrated in the states within its orignal intent. When's the last time you celebrated Christmas? Everyone knows the intent of the holiday, but they also know its not the actual day and its an event that has been commercialized. We still celebrate it within the spirit of the original intent though. So you're celebrating Christ's birthday on the wrong day and you're celebrating something the pagans have corrupted into a simple commercial event. Or Thanksgiving. You celebrate a day that honors a feast in the spirit of love and brotherhood. Sounds nice. However, the feast animal is not sacrifice according to scripture and you eat it! Our intent is to celebrate love and understanding. Let's not even get into the later history where thousands and thousands of natives were killed by the descendants of those pilgrims. How could we still celebrate an event which later had no meaning? What are we commemorating? There's extremes. Some Christians choose to live in those extremes. That's your right. However you should never take something and look at it only through the narrow lens of that extreme. When you do you miss the details and the context by wide margins. Holloween's orignal purpose is lost. If someone runs around on Halloween celebrating false gods - they are in the minute minority. Everyone else is simply having fun and letting their kids have fun too.

I have no idea who nebula is talking to...

Well you can do that, but to me I don't stop at churches of certain denominations. To me, why would I go seeking the trouble? I've got enough on my hands trying to educate Muslims, I don't need anymore headaches. Weeee!

My own experiences differ from many others, and my perspective is affected by them. I simply prefer not to seek the denomination first, but rather the Word and then the denomination that fits the teaching of the Word.

I usually encounter Aetheists and Muslims who like to quote out of context, but you need not quote the entire chapter before and after. I pass on your offer.

But many faiths are inspired, or based, entirely upon false teachings. I would never want to be responsible for setting someone upon that path. Would you? Thusly, start off studying the Word and seek something that goes hand in hand with the Word. Be like the Bereans and take what they say back to the Word and check it. Its why so many faiths produce their own Bibles, so that if you check them you go along with them. I advise to study apart from that and get your foundation so that when you enter these churchs you get your bearings quickly.

Well you know what, why bother? When it happens, we won't know it until afterwards. Til then we can keep working the Word, weee! Of course, the best quote I ever heard about it was from Chuck Missler (from his awesome Bible study program) when he says, "You know that when you see Christmas decorations going up, Thanksgiving is not far away." Its just so true!

I'm sure I'll be crucified for this one too, but oh well... I'm not certain that Holloween glorifies God's enemies. While its foundation lies in pagan faiths, to participate doesn't demand you worship God's enemies. Its commercial in this day and time. God knows your heart. If you're running around with no intent of worshipping demons or devils, then what are you doing other than running around enjoying yourself? I've asked many pastors, priests, and ministers about this and they all said that celebrating it is not the same as worhsipping it. I think to many people get too caught up in the idea of having to be perfect and committing to a perfect lifestyle where they take issue with even the slightest things. To me, thats fanaticism. Faith becomes dangerous at that point. I let my children celebrate Halloween. Do they worship the devil and praise him? Nope. The Catholic Church near me has a carnival each year. My children don't have the confusion some people have by trying to incriminate themselves with the slightest infractions. My son's know about God, pray, get to study the Word and learn about what Jesus did and why he is important. To them, all it is is a time to dress and go get candy and see adults run around acting silly.

Great Link, Keith. I'm already enjoying myself reading it.

You asked My answer was: Don't follow a denomination. I'm not saying you are or aren't, and you might want to check the timestamps before you reply because it might be that while I was writing you were replying to something and you got the message confused. What I am saying, in response to "If anyone can help, I'd appreciate it" is that my only advice is not to follow a denomination. I myself prefer scriptural study, but my friend loves his Lutheran church. He's gotten me to attend before, but it just don't "feel" right for me. Best of luck to you though.

Yes, I have to say that you see more and more Hollywood taking liberties. But then when you think about it, its a denzien of evil. Look at their lifestyles and ways. Can we expect better from them? Even Star Wars snickers at faith. When people make assumptions, even ones eluded to, they confuse real events from possible events. In the case of thinking the movie pimps the devil, they're wrong. I don't beat around bushes, that's all. You're entitled to disagree. You're probably more fanatical that I am. The issue is that many people think that once they accept Jesus they have to drastically change or alter their lives. Men often think their wives will become cookie baking, sexually repressed prudes. Women often think their husbands will become preaching, overbearing fanatics. Its not like that, but a lot of people try to actually fit themselves into similar stereotypes because in their ignorance they are convinced you have to be perfect. Sure, because its true from a certain perspective. Your perspective is that they shouldn't, mine is that you should not fear the valley of death. Some people think differently, that's all. Like you do from me.

Well I'm sure someone will dispute this too, but here goes... The Aztec or Maya calendar only goes up to 2012. No biggie to anyone who doesn't chase it from there, but if you go deeper it gets scary. They end the calendar there because they were told, divinely is the claim, that that is when the world ends. The exact wording is that the world 'changes forever' and 'a new world replaces it'. On top of that, Catholic Scholars believe that either this Pope of the next one is the one that leads the Catholic church into Apostasy. They know it is coming, thet just don't know when, but they think it is this one. Of course the rumors surrounding him don't help, but you can't go by those. We know that the church turning away from God happens, so the thought is that the rapture is going to hit any minute and up to within the next 5 years because its 7 years after that before Armageddon. That's the theory at least. 5+7 is 2012. Lines right up with things and we don't know if the Aztecs meant the rapture or the end. Freaky. I replay the Revelation Hour in my Bible study just to get more bearings on it, but I firmly feel that with all the things going on in the middle east and with Russia, its likely to happen sooner than later. When we least expect it, but you KNOW people will see it coming just like they saw real events coming in the Bible's OT and NT before they happened. You know? How you see things around you and get the big picture? Like that. The program I replay is like 34MB and I used to have my FTP server up so people could DL it. I might do that again, but it chews up BW til I get choked. The whole thing is 24 lessons and very sweet.

"Don't follow a denomination" is my advice. I attend a church that is based upon teaching the Word as scripturally pure as possible. The worship is broken down into praise, then bible study with the pastor. Its great. Many other faiths are based upon the whims and desires of their founders. I wouldn't follow any of them as most of them stray from God's intent in one way or another.

If you mean the one about the missing day in Joshua, the only thing about that is that no one can get anyone other than one guy from NASA to admit to anything, and even that is that they did roll back the data and the system did indeed lock up, but it seemed to be a techinical issue with overheating. I think the rest of it was wishful thinking, or hoping. Has nothing to do with what I was saying.

Well since you're going to begin with so much as calling me a liar, I'm going to withhold my lengthy reply and the tale, which is scientifficaly proven to boot. I will pray for you. You need help. You turn you anger towards another Christian with venomous hatred. Sad. EDIT - And as far as the Missing Day relates to the Bible, it does so through a narrow thread, but again that was all in what I was going to post. Also about the flood, mars, and other things that popped up in recent years.

Job 38:31 "Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion?" The average reader passes this by without so much as a second glance, but what is really being said here? Until recently, within this century, scientists theorized about stars in various constellations. One things scientists always "knew" was that constellations were merely the way stars from many systems aligned in our skies. This accounts for the drift seen in many constellations, such as the Big Dipper (which is "stretching"). However, with the sudden predominence of new space systems that peer into deep space, including the Hubble and SOHO, new revelations about our universe were soon proclaimed by the same people who said the Bible is merely a collection of folklore. One of the newsest (within the last 20 years) discoveries was that the Pleiades are actually stars within the SAME system, and not stars that sit within systems that align unusually close. Another was that this same feature was shared by the stars which comprise Orion's belt. But more significant is that these are the only two that share this feature, in all of the observable universe. They are also the only two observable with this feature with the naked eye, though the fact of this was not know until recently. Until then, the theory was that stars aligned in the sky. Before that, before we could use telescopes, it was that they shared the same space. And before all of that, God was telling Job of the uniqueness of these two, that man would finally discover for himself 2500 years later because he refuses to listen or believe in God. Yes friends. The more science tries to refute it, the more the prove the Bible as historical documentation and not folklore. Next story: The Missing Day and the Atomic Clock

This is true. Take gunfighters, or cowboys how carried guns, lawmen, etc. Hollywood portrayed them as wearing rigs that hung low and sometimes notched to allow the "quick draw", but in truth the rig was hip level, up to the belt. Everyone can tell you that if you actually wore a rig like those in the movies then your gun would fall out when you sat down and sometimes when you rode your horse. The holster sat way up to keep your gun handy (and your side) and in a straight up/down fashion which was inherited from the early guns that used caplock systems where a primer was used.

Not me. I've spent years saving these up and I've got to know. Might not be the first thing I do, but I'll get around to it eventually. And I don't believe that we will spend all of our time praying and worshipping the Lord. It doesn't say that. It doesn't say really anything as to what we will be doing, but it does say that we will be able to worship and commune with God directly. I know a guy that thinks that all we will do day and night is be in constant state of worship and we will be content with this forever. To me, that contradicts God nature. He is perfect love and desired to give us free will, and he's never been one to enslave others. That type of worship is acutally evil in nature. Its self gratifying, and God is not like that. Sure we will worship Him, and I'm sure there will be lots of things to do other than that, but there's simply so much we don't know because we haven't reached that point (its about 5-7 years away though) and when we do its too late for anyone to come back and tell you what's up.

Well what did you expect? It wasn't a Baptist or Lutheran performing the exorcism, it was a Catholic priest. I guess the girl was Catholic too, which would explain her seeing Mary. God often uses familar imagery to communicate with us. I don't think I'd survive the full blown glory of the Lord. LOL