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Worshiping multiculturalism is a form of idolatry. Idolatry carries a punnishment, and Europe will learn it the hard way. G-d willing America will learn before it is too late. Removing G-d from any equation or formula (like the one America was founded on) is a guarantee for failure.

Wow! major typo. Clearly I meant 3,000 innocent lives (of the Sept 11, 2001 attacks).

Apocalypse2007, Europe will get what it deserves for its inaction... the consequences of not dealing with Islamists. Even England waffles. Did you catch the story a week or two ago in the Guardian? http://politics.guardian.co.uk/homeaff....00.html -----------excerpt---------- Mr Blunkett's visit to the Muslim centre came as it emerged that the Greater London Authority has failed in an attempt to stop a march in the capital this weekend by supporters of Osama bin Laden. The GLA refused to give permission to Al-Muhajiroun, a militant organisation that has called for terrorist attacks on western targets, to hold a rally in Trafalgar Square on Sunday, but it found that it had no legal right to do so. -------end excerpt------- Well, if they don't have the "legal right" to defend against the assembly of terrorist suporters and incitement, then they will have a problem finding the right to respond to terrorism in their country in a decisive manner. Germany is even worse! Guilt ridden from the Jew oven and gasssing days, they can't even bring themselves to kill evil people. From one extreem to the other. From killing the defenseless to preserving the lives of murderers (on second thought, maybe not such opposite extreemes). Germany never learned. In the news this week is how they want to save the precious life of Zacarias Moussaoui and don't want to hand over evidence against him unless we promise not to apply the death penalty. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm....ny_dc_2 [sarcasm on] After all, he didn't actually kill anybody. Right? Hey let's wait till he does, then we can give him a spanking! [sarcasm off] No good person wants to kill a human being. Sometimes it is necessary (and commanded). Killing 19 hijackers on Sept 10, 2001 would have saved 3,00 innocent lives. Obviously unrealistic, but it still rings of truth. I have a cousin who's such a pacifist that he would not utilize the death penalty for Osama bin Laden. Hmmmm...what a sucker!

Apocalypse2007, I didn't mean "argument" in a hostile manner. I meant argument as in "debate" or theological argument. Since the topic I was focused on was in relation of Islamic culture, I was stating that I wasn't welcoming a discussion or argument on another topic. I am an American Jew. I'm aware of the level of support that many Christians offer to Jews. I actually read http://www.worldnetdaily.com almost every day. And, if I was one to pick heroes (which I'm not) Joseph Farah would be a candidate. I think that Christian support for Israel and Jews is stronger now than I have ever seen it. For anyone unfamiliar with http://www.worldnetdaily.com it is a MUST. I agree completely with you that religious Christians support Israel more than non-religious so-called liberal American (or Israeli for that matter) Jews. Many religious Christians understand the difference between good and evil unlike moral relativist liberal Jews like Adam Shapiro or little Joseph Cohen (Islamic convert and Hamas supporter).

Jipsah, Misspelling your user name was not intentional. I apologize.

Jipsa wrote The "Allah ain't really God" argument is exceptionally silly. Jipsa, did you read the paper I made reference to? If you have a classic 65 Mustang and add Porche parts to it wherever you can. Is it still a classic 65 Mustang? I say no. It is a mutilated version of a 65 Mustang. So if you apply to G-d (which is absolute truth) aspects which are clearly false, do you still have absolute truth? I don't care what the Muslim intention is. I care about the truth. Your poison analogy proves my point. Because you dress up some poison (Allah), and make it look like a favorite drink, G-d, does that mean it is really G-d? NO its poison. And to further the point. If you add poison to your favorite drink, then you compromise the integrity of the favorite drink and it is no longer pure, and no longer can be defined as a "favorite drink". It may look, tase, and smell like your favorite drink, but in REALITY...IN TRUTH, it is NOT your favorite drink. So, some dumb Muslim thinks Allah (what they worship and murder in the name of) is G-d. That doesn't make it G-d. That makes it an error (and a deadly one at that). It is truthful to say: When a Muslim says "Allah", he or she means G-d. It is an entirely different thing to say "Allah" is G-d, just in a different language. What IS truth, and what is perceived as truth are often two different things. And the argument is not silly. Apocalypse2007, I didn't state my religious orientation to create an argument. I did so merely to be upfront about the person making the post. I thought this was a thread about <b>The Root Cause of Islamic Terrorism is the Quran... </b> Now, I don't know anything about Satans or Lambs or anti-whatever, but I do know a little something about the purpose of the Third Temple, it's physical construction, and what is expected to occur there. I suggest a short study of what the innermost chamber of the Temple is for. And please find out what the Shechina is. It will be quite interesting and contribute to the education of anyone interested in Jewish or Christian studies. Interesting note: During the time of the 2nd Holy Temple. The intention of the high priest was compromised and they would seek the position for prestiege and not for the service of G-d. Since nobody except that one man was permitted in the Holy of Holies (innermost chamber), if he died there, nobody could go in to retrieve him. So, a rope was tied to the ankle of the priest. The priests of the 2nd Temple were dragged out from the Holy of Holies as corpses.

Hello, I am not very familiar with this forum. I'll state upfront that I am Jewish. I practice Orthodox, and do not subscribe to any Christian doctrine whatsoever and have no intention of doing so. However, I would like to share with this group a souce of information which will be very insightful for those who want to understand the origins and motivations of Islamic culture. I found a very long college level paper on this subject by a Christian author, and I thought that it may appeal to the scholarly people who may assemble here. http://answering-islam.de/main/Silas/jihad.htm I do not agree with the religious beliefs of the author, however I find his analysis excellent and very well thought out. I do want to respond to one minor point here: RabbiJesus, You state that Allah is the same thing as G-d. However, you neglect to acknowlede the fact that Mohamed attributed to Allah aspects which he found convenient to his agenda. Allah didn't create Mohamed. Mohamed invented Allah. Without a serious study of the institution of Islam by Mohamed in the name of Allah, you are unqualified to define what Allah is. You use a simple linguistic translation to make your case which is severly flawed. To equate Allah with G-d is a disservice to anyone who wants to understand the level of the Islamic threat that the world finds itself faced with. If you want to understand it, then you have to study some of the history of Islam, and consider the impact of Islam on Islamic culture in the framework of its history. Suppose you met a deserted island tribe who worshiped an invisible god named "Blog" who insisted on your death for its pleasure; and then escaped from that island. Would you return to civilization and state that "Blog" means G-d, but it's just a different language? The fact that someone worships something and then translates it into your language as G-d, does not make it G-d. And just because a billion people chose to call something G-d doesn't make it G-d. Just as a billion people calling you an infidel doesn't make you an infidel.