Sweet Servent

No way would they have listened to John the Baptist, dressed they way he was and eating locusts and honey. No today we want everything dressed pretty in white, cause then you are a real Christian. (not true of all Christian's but let's face it beauty sells) It's called "marketing". Maybe we should hire JESUS a marketing/PR rep.... (tongue cheek)

No way would they have listened to John the Baptist, dressed they way he was and eating locusts and honey. No today we want everything dressed pretty in white, cause then you are a real Christian. (not true of all Christian's but let's face it beauty sells)

If a pair of shoes is already infected with smelly bacteria throw them out, you can't undo the smell. Daily scrub his feet with zest soap, use extra strength odor eaters in all his shoes, and have him change socks twice a day. Plus made sure he never re-wears dirty socks. Also make sure his tub or shower is clean, disgusting stuff loves to grow in those places re-infecting his feet with smell causing bacteria.

How about going out and getting a job. Paul worked as a tentmaker. Acts 18:3 In 1 Corin. 9:13-15 he talks about offerings and in verse 15 he says he didn't take offerings for himself. I see no reason why these people can't go out and get a job. Just my opinion. I totally agree! I have seen pastors misuse the money, that was given in tithes and in offerings to help the homeless, so that these criminals could support there sinful life style. I am not saying all ministries are like this but I have seen far to many and it breaks my heart. It causes the young in the Lord to fall away and the sheep to scatter. I keep praying God will clean house and expose these false prophet's and God is.

Me too, it's sad.

As long as you don't ask me to get you a BENZ, you extremist!

__________________________________________________________________________ Here is this what you wanted? The plaintiffs sued Wal-Mart for negligently selling a shotgun to James Michael White -- Ms. White's estranged husband -- who was under a domestic violence restraining order and was therefore prohibited from buying a firearm under federal law. On April 8, 1998, within two weeks of buying the shotgun, Mr. White used it to murder his estranged wife and her brother. Wal-Mart sold Mr. White the gun despite the fact that he filled out the federal purchase form truthfully, indicating that he was "subject to a court order restraining [him] from harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner." As a result, federal law prohibited Mr. White from buying the gun. Nonetheless, after a Wal-Mart clerk and supervisor reviewed and signed the form, Mr. White was sold the murder weapon. Because of similar oversights, Wal-Mart has been sued repeatedly for negligent firearm sales, failure to properly train its gun sales staff, and negligent supervision. I asked you for an example of where someone purchased a gun lawfully from a Wal-Mart store and killed someone. You gave an example of someone purchasing a gun in violation of the law. My point is that criminals will find a way to buy guns, regardless of the law. LadyC are you for real? This person went in and purchased a gun at Walmart and killed two people. Did you read any of the stuff I sent you on guns?

I guess I will have to lose a little more of your respect, because I am going to repeat what I said earlier, that amnesty international is a left-wing group with no credibility. Can you show anywhere in any post where anyone called you a "liberal fringe lunitic?" You may not have called me that, but you have falsely accused me of calling you something I did not. I said you are a liberal, and you can dissagree all you want with that label, but your posts speak for themselves. You also have misrepresented someone else's post in saying he was refering to this as a holy war. All he did was point out that what is taking place is not torture, and that in Bible times, these terrorists wouldn't be catered to in the manner they are, they would have been executed. He never called this a holy war. Read the posts back and forth between Lady C and myself. BTW to remind you called me a liberal.

Right here I was called a lunatic... you're TWISTING again. the accusation you made was at butero. leanord's post was made AFTER you made the accusation. show me proof that butero called you a fringe lunatic, or even implied such. I am talking about getting label by fellow christians here, I have been called a liberal, lunatic and few others I'd have to search for. Would you like me to, I can. Lady C why not stop here, because I have read all of the posts directed at me. You have been given proof on all accounts but you keep going.

Right here I was called a lunatic... you're TWISTING again. the accusation you made was at butero. leanord's post was made AFTER you made the accusation. show me proof that butero called you a fringe lunatic, or even implied such. I am talking about getting label by fellow christians here, I have been called a liberal, lunatic and few others I'd have to search for. Would you like me to, I can.

Brother I am not a member of the lunatic fringe, I am a spirit filled Christian. The US has admitted to using torture what do you think those secret CIA prison

Right here I was called a lunatic...

__________________________________________________________________________ Here is this what you wanted? The plaintiffs sued Wal-Mart for negligently selling a shotgun to James Michael White -- Ms. White's estranged husband -- who was under a domestic violence restraining order and was therefore prohibited from buying a firearm under federal law. On April 8, 1998, within two weeks of buying the shotgun, Mr. White used it to murder his estranged wife and her brother. Wal-Mart sold Mr. White the gun despite the fact that he filled out the federal purchase form truthfully, indicating that he was "subject to a court order restraining [him] from harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner." As a result, federal law prohibited Mr. White from buying the gun. Nonetheless, after a Wal-Mart clerk and supervisor reviewed and signed the form, Mr. White was sold the murder weapon. Because of similar oversights, Wal-Mart has been sued repeatedly for negligent firearm sales, failure to properly train its gun sales staff, and negligent supervision.

First of all, I am glad you were not offended by my remarks. My concern was that I had mistakenly labeled you a liberal, lumping you in with others I had been debating, but after continuing to debate you, it appears there was no need for an apology, because you are indeed liberal. As far as your latest post goes, it is not a matter of you posting propoganda. Just look at who the story is saying is making claims we tortured prisoners. It is saying Amnesty International accused us of torturing prisoners. That is a left-wing group that has no credibility at all. Since the whole article is only about their accusations, that hardly constitutes proof. I'm not a liberal, I am Christian. I am a person who believes that Christ love is the key, but you just lost my respect with Amnesty International crack. By the way did J. Edgar Hoover even admit to all the evil junk he did as FBI director? No, but I guess all the stuff that came out was just propoganda. He never did anything wrong.... The US goverment has never been wrong or lied ever, right? (the point is people doing wrong never admit that they have done wrong until they get caught but you are saying that it's all propoganda) It's interesting though because if someone disagrees with you the person is a liberal fringe lunitic and spreading propoganda. I never did that to you. I have posted the articles if you choose to believe what you believe even after reading the articles it's your right as an America. And it's my right to disagree. It's clear that some of you believe this is a holy war, I don't believe that. In Christ, Kate

1) the US having supposedly admitted to using torture AFX News Limited US acknowledges torture at Guantanamo; in Iraq, Afghanistan - UN 06.24.2005, 11:37 AM GENEVA (AFX) - Washington has, for the first time, acknowledged to the United Nations that prisoners have been tortured at US detention centres in Guantanamo Bay, as well as Afghanistan and Iraq, a UN source said. The acknowledgement was made in a report submitted to the UN Committee against Torture, said a member of the ten-person panel, speaking on on condition of anonymity. 'They are no longer trying to duck this and have respected their obligation to inform the UN,' the Committee member said. 'They they will have to explain themselves (to the Committee). Nothing should be kept in the dark,' he said. UN sources said this is the first time the world body has received such a frank statement on torture from US authorities. The Committee, which monitors respect for the Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment, is gathering information from the US ahead of hearings in May 2006. Signatories of the convention are expected to submit to scrutiny of their implementation of the 1984 convention and to provide information to the Committee. The document from Washington will not be formally made public until the hearings. newsdesk@afxnews.com 2) that guns purchased from wallyworld are directly linked to the crime rate, and then hem and haw and try to change the subject rather than respond when challenged, it makes everything else you post lack credibility. RECENT FIREARMS RESEARCH Harvard Injury Control Research Center 2001-2006 Firearms Research Archive 1990-1998 Firearms Research Archive 1998-2003 Firearms Research Archive 2004-2005 The Firearm Research Center: David Hemenway, Matthew Miller, Deborah Azrael, Beth Molnar, and Lisa Hepburn Funded by the Joyce Foundation -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- (unpublished material is not to be cited w/o approval of authors) BOOK: Hemenway, David. "Private Guns and Public Health" Ann Arbor, MI: University of Michigan Press, 2004. This book summarizes the literature on the relationship between guns and injuries and describes the public health approach to reducing firearm-related violence. More information at the University of Michigan Press website: http://www.press.umich.edu/titleDetailDesc.do?id=17530 ARTICLES: I GUNS AND DEATH A: HOMICIDE 1. Guns and homicide (literature review). We performed a review of the academic literature on the effects of gun availability on homicide rates. Major Findings: A broad array of evidence indicates that gun availability is a risk factor for homicide, both in the United States and across high-income countries. Case-control studies, ecological time-series and cross-sectional studies indicate that in homes, cities, states and regions in the US, where there are more guns, both men and women are at higher risk for homicide, particularly firearm homicide. Publication: Hepburn, Lisa; Hemenway, David. "Firearm Availability and Homicide: A Review of the Literature." Aggression and Violent Behavior: A Review Journal. 2004; 9:417-40. 2. Gun availability and state homicide rates, 1988-1997 Using a validated proxy for firearm ownership, we analyzed the relationship between firearm availability and homicide across 50 states over a ten year period. Major findings: After controlling for poverty and urbanization, for every age group, people in states with many guns have elevated rates of homicide, particularly firearm homicide. Publication: Miller, Matthew; Azrael, Deborah; Hemenway, David. "Household Firearm Ownership Levels and Homicide Rates across U.S. Regions and States, 1988-1997." American Journal of Public Health. 2002: 92:1988-1993. 3. Gun availability and state homicide rates, 2001-2003 Using survey data on rates of household gun ownership, we examined the association between gun availability and homicide across states, 2001-2003. Major Findings: States with higher levels of household gun ownership had higher rates of firearm homicide and overall homicide. This relationship held for both genders and all age groups, after accounting for rates of aggravated assault, robbery, unemployment, urbanization, alcohol consumption, and resource deprivation (e.g., poverty). There was no association between gun prevalence and non-firearm homicide. Submission: Miller, Matthew; Azrael, Deborah; Hemenway, David.

I accept your apologize. __________________________________________ Royal Member Group: Royal Member Posts: 3812 Member No.: 9949 Joined: 26-August 04 Hello Sweet Servant, First of all, welcome to Worthy. Second, I hope I did not offend you in anything I said. I am pretty straight forward in the things I say, but meant nothing personal against you. I have been engaged in debates with others over the same type of things you spoke of, and may have unfairly lumped you in with them. I don't know you or your politics, so if I have made you out as something you are not, I apologize. God bless, Butero -------------------- Jeremiah 6:16 "Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls." Ecclesiates 12:13 "Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments, for this is the whole duty of man." 1 John 3:7,8 "Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doth righteousness, is righteous, even as he is righteous." He that committeth sin, is of the devil, for the devil sinneth from the beginning: for this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil." Hebrews 10:26 "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins." http://www.wjwradio.com

I posted two articles on torture and you dismissed both as liberal propganda. Here's more. July 19, 2003 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Khraisan al-Aballi (CBS) Quote

So according to you I have to choose or the other? But I choose God. All Christians are choosing God. I am saying that the material you are reading outside of scripture is going to be slanted left or right. So reading history books is propaganda... Please next you'll tell me, reading about Israel's history has given me a conservative or liberal slant which is? Just because I don't believe what you believe..... What history books? It depends on who the author is whether is it propaganda or not. The truth is, you like to agrue and you find this fun and exciting. I don't like to argue, so there is no point. The truth is, you are promoting liberal propaganda without any basis in fact. If you didn't like to argue, you would have left this debate long ago. You aren't going to change my mind and you are versused enough on the history of the region to really have debate. Because when I give you historical facts it's propaganda. When I tell Iran is trying postion itself to be the major player in the middle east because of the destablization I promoting liberal propaganda. Headlines: WMD/Terrorism News May 29, 2006, Associated Press By Robert H. Reid Iran Positioning Itself For Big Gains in Iraq Excerpt from the article: With a new Iraqi government in place, Iran is positioning itself to play a major role here at a time when American influence is showing signs of faltering. If the Americans leave, the Iranians are waiting in the wings. That is worrisome to Iraq's Arab neighbors, especially Sunni-dominated countries such as Saudi Arabia and Egypt. But it also raises serious questions for Washington, including the wisdom of withdrawing entirely from Iraq when it has long been considered the eastern defense against Iranian expansion. Concerns about Iran have simmered since the March 2003 U.S.-led invasion of Iraq removed a Sunni-dominated dictatorship and set the stage for democracy

Hmm....good question. I'm assuming you have the answer and can prove it through reliable statistical reports? I'm going to go out on a limb here and propose that many, if not most, gun related killings are committed by people who procured their weapons from illegal sources, not from Wal-Mart. t. Most are done in the heat of the moment or by accident. Harvard Injury Control Research Center Fact Sheet: More Guns, More Deaths Over the past decade there has been substantial progress in empirically examining the extent to which the availability of firearms may be related to increased mortality. This document outlines key research in homicide, suicide, unintentional gun deaths, gun carrying, and self-defensive gun use. For a quick introduction to the public health approach to studying firearm injury and death, see: Hemenway, David. The public health approach to motor vehicles, tobacco and alcohol, with applications to firearms policy. Journal of Public Health Policy. 2001; 22:381- 402. For a comprehensive summary of the literature on the relationship between guns and injuries and a thorough understanding of how the public health field can minimize the adverse effects of guns, see: Hemenway, David. Private Guns, Public Health. Ann Arbor, MI: University of Michigan Press, 2004. SUICIDE Miller M, Hemenway D; Azrael D. Firearms and suicide in the Northeast. Journal of Trauma. 2004;57:626-632. Major Finding: This study analyzed mortality data and hospital discharge data on selfinflicted injury and Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance System data on household firearm ownership from seven states in the Northeast. It found that firearm prevalence was positively related to the suicide rate, even after controlling for rates of attempted suicide. Miller M, Hemenway D. The relationship between firearms and suicide: A review of the literature. Aggression and Violent Behavior. 1999; 4:59-75. Major Finding: This review of the scientific literature on the relationship between gun ownership levels and suicide rates finds that the vast majority of current evidence indicates that gun availability is a risk factor for suicide in the US. Dahlberg LL, Ikeda RM, Kresnow MJ. Guns in the home and risk of a violent death in the home: findings from a national study. American Journal of Epidemiology. 2004; 160(10):929-36. Harvard Injury Control Research Center February 22, 2005 2 Major Findings: Analysis of a US mortality follow-back survey finds that among a sample of people who died at home, those who had a gun in the home were at significantly higher risk than those who did not of dying from homicide or from suicide, regardless of storage practice, type of gun, or number of firearms in the home. Brent DA and Bridge J. Firearms availability and suicide: a review of the literature. American Behavioral Scientist. 2003; 46: 1192-1210. Major Findings: Case-control studies show an association between firearms in the home and completed suicide, with higher risks associated with loaded guns and handguns in the home. Quasi-experimental studies also show a relationship between greater restrictiveness of gun control laws and lower suicide rates by firearms and overall, although some studies fail to show an effect or show method substitution. A prospective study shows that handgun purchasers have an elevated risk for suicide for up to 6 years after the purchase. Wiebe D. Homicide and suicide risks associated with firearms in the home: a national case-control study. Ann Emerg Med. 2003; 41(6):771-82. Major Findings: Using nationally-representative population survey data and mortality follow-back data on homicide and suicide victims, this study found that adults in homes with guns were at a significantly higher risk of suicide and homicide than adults in homes without guns, especially for suicide by firearm. Miller M, Azrael D, Hemenway D. Household firearm ownership levels and suicide across US regions and states, 1988-1997. Epidemiology. 2002;13: 517-24. Major Findings: The authors analyzed the relationship between firearm availability and suicide across 50 states over a ten year period. After controlling for poverty and urbanization, for every age group, across the United States, people in states with many guns have elevated rates of suicide, particularly firearm suicide. Grossman D, Mueller B, Riedy C, et al. Guns storage practices and risk of youth suicide and unintentional firearm injuries . JAMA, 2005;293 (6):707-714. Major Findings: This case control study measured the association between household gun storage practices (locking guns, locking ammunition, storing guns unloaded) and the risk of unintentional and self-inflicted firearm injuries. Each was associated with a protective effect, suggesting a feasible strategy to reduce firearm injury in homes with guns and youths. . Harvard Injury Control Research Center February 22, 2005 3 HOMICIDE Hepburn L, Hemenway D. Firearm availability and homicide: A review of the literature. Aggression and Violent Behavior: A Review Journal. 2004; 9:417-440. Major Finding: A broad array of evidence from the academic literature indicates that gun availability is a risk factor for homicide, both in the United States and across high income countries. Case-control studies, ecological time-series and cross-sectional studies indicate that, controlling for urbanicity, in homes, cities, states and regions in the US, where there are more guns, both men and women are at higher risk for homicide, particularly firearm homicide. Wiebe D. Homicide and suicide risks associated with firearms in the home: a national case-control study. Ann Emerg Med. 2003; 41(6):771-82. Major Findings: Using nationally-representative population survey data and mortality follow-back data on homicide and suicide victims, this study found that adults in homes with guns were at a significantly higher risk of suicide and homicide than adults in homes without guns. The risk of homicide was particularly high among women compared with men. Cook PJ, Moore M. Guns, gun control and homicide: a review of research and public policy. In: MD Smith & MA Zahn, eds. Homicide: A Sourcebook of Social Research. Thousand Oaks, CA: Sage, 1999. Major Findings: This chapter reviews trends in gun ownership and examines use of guns for self defense and for criminal purposes, concluding that: 1) gun use for selfdefense is relatively rare, and 2) while there is little evidence that robbery and assault rates are influenced by gun prevalence, there is compelling evidence of a strong association between guns and lethal robbery and assault (i.e. homicide). The relationship between instrumentality and availability of guns and homicide is explored, and public policy recommendations for reducing gun violence are made. Miller M, Azrael D, Hemenway D. Household firearm ownership levels and homicide rates across US regions and states, 1988-1997. American Journal of Public Health. 2002; 92: 1988-93. Major Finding: An analysis of the relationship between firearm availability and homicide across 50 states over a ten year period, and found that after controlling for poverty and urbanization, for every age group, people in states with many guns have elevated rates of homicide, particularly firearm homicide. Kellermann AL, Rivara FP, Rushforth NB, et al. Gun ownership as a risk factor for homicide in the home. New England Journal of Medicine. 1993; 329:1084-91. Harvard Injury Control Research Center February 22, 2005 4 Major Finding: This case-control study found that after controlling for various characteristics (e.g. neighborhood, race, age, living alone, drug use), keeping a gun in the home was strongly associated with an increased risk of homicide victimization. Virtually all of this risk involved homicide by a family member or intimate acquaintance. UNINTENTIONAL DEATHS Wiebe DJ. Firearms in U.S. homes as a risk factor for unintentional gunshot fatality. Accident Analysis and Prevention. 2003; 35: 711-16. Major Findings: In this case-control study comparing subjects living in homes with guns to those without (and adjusting for covariates), the relative risk for dying from an unintentional gunshot injury was 3.7 times higher for adults living in homes with guns. Having handguns in the home was associated with the largest effect estimates. Miller M, Azrael D, Hemenway D. Firearm availability and unintentional firearm deaths, suicide, and homicide among 5-14 year olds. Journal of Trauma. 2002; 52: 267-75. Major Findings: The authors analyzed the relationship between firearm availability and homicide, suicide, and unintentional gun death for 5-14 year olds across the 50 states over a ten year period. Children in states with many guns have elevated rates of suicide, homicide, and unintentional gun deaths compared to children in states with fewer guns. The state rates of non-firearm suicide and non-firearm homicide among children are not related to firearm availability. Miller M, Azrael D, Hemenway D. Firearm availability and unintentional firearm deaths. Accident Analysis and Prevention. 2001; 33:477-84. Major Findings: An analysis of data from 50 states over 19 years investigating the relationship between gun prevalence and accidental gun deaths across different age groups finds that for every age group, where there are more guns there are more accidental deaths. The mortality rate was 7 times higher in the four states with the most guns compared to the four states with the fewest guns. GUN CARRYING Donahue J. Guns, crime, and the impact of state right-to-carry laws. Fordham Law Review. 2004; 73(2): 623-652. Major Finding: This chapter reviews the literature on right-to-carry laws and their relationship to murder, rape, assault, and property crimes such as robbery, burglary, Harvard Injury Control Research Center February 22, 2005 5 and larceny. The author concludes that there is no evidence of reduction in violent or property crime when right-to-carry laws are passed, and that if any association exists between gun carrying and crime, it is that right-to-carry laws are linked to increases in property crime. Hepburn L, Miller M, Azrael D, Hemenway D. The effect of non-discretionary concealed weapon carrying laws on homicide. Journal of Trauma. 2004; 56(3): 676-681. Major Findings: The authors analyzed the effect on homicide of changes in state-level gun carrying laws using pooled cross-sectional time-series data for 50 states from 1979-1998. There was no statistically significant association between changes in concealed carry laws and state homicide rates. The finding was consistent across a variety of models. Ludwig J. Concealed-gun-carrying laws and violent crime: Evidence from state panel data. International Review of Law and Economics. 1998; 18(3):239-254. Major Findings: This paper exploits the minimum age requirements for concealed-carry permits to more effectively control for unobserved variables that may vary over time. Since even permissive concealed-carry states have minimum age requirements, any deterrent benefits from these laws should be concentrated among adults and, therefore, should be reflected in a gap between adult and juvenile victimization rates. The results suggest that shall-issue laws have resulted, if anything, in an increase in adult homicide rates. SELF-DEFENSE GUN USE Hemenway D, Azrael D. The relative frequency of offensive and defensive gun use: Results of a national survey. Violence and Victims. 2000; 15:257-272. Major Findings: Using data from a national random-digit-dial telephone survey, we examined the extent and nature of offensive gun use. Firearms are used far more often to frighten and intimidate than they are used in self-defense. All reported cases of criminal gun use, as well as many of the so-called self-defense gun uses, appear to be socially undesirable. Hemenway D, Miller M, Azrael, D. Gun use in the United States: Results from two national surveys. Injury Prevention. 2000; 6:263-267. Major Findings: Criminal court judges who read the self-reported accounts of purported self-defense gun use obtained from two national random-digit-dial surveys rated a majority as being illegal, even assuming that the respondent had a permit to own and to carry a gun, and that the respondent had described the event honestly from his own perspective. Harvard Injury Control Research Center February 22, 2005 6 McDowall D, Loftin C, Presser S. Measuring civilian defensive firearm use: A methodological experiment. Journal of Quantitative Criminology. 2000; 16:1-19. Major Findings: Estimates of the incidence of victim gun use from the National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS) are consistently lower than are those from other studies. To examine the divergence, we conducted a survey that gauged the impact of methodological differences between the NCVS and the other studies. For half of the sample, we asked questions from the NCVS, followed by questions from the other surveys. For the other half of the sample, we presented the questions in the reverse order. We examined two hypotheses: (1) survey methods account for the divergent results, and (2) the questions cover unrelated activities. The results provided some support for the first hypothesis, but respondents also reported many more defenses to the questions from the other surveys than to the NCVS questions. Consistent with the second hypothesis, this suggests that the NCVS and the other surveys measure responses to largely different provocations. Harvard Injury Control Research Center February 22, 2005 7 ADDITIONAL READING Brent DA, Perper JA, Allman CJ, et al. The presence and accessibility of firearms in the homes of adolescent suicides, a case-control study. JAMA. 1991; 266:2989-2995. Cook PJ, Ludwig J. Defensive gun uses: New evidence from a national survey. J Quant Criminol. 1998; 14(2): 111-131. Donohue J. The impact of concealed-carry laws. In Ludwig J, Cook PJ, eds. Evaluating Gun Policy. Washington D.C.: Brookings Institution press. 2003. Hemenway D, Miller M. Gun threats against and self-defense gun use by California adolescents. Archives of Pediatrics and Adolescent Medicine. 2004; 158: 395-400. Kendell RE. Catalytic converters and prevention of suicides [research letter]. The Lancet. 1998; 352(9139): 1525. Kreitman N. The coal gas story: UK suicide rates, 1960-71. Brit J Prev Soc Med. 1976; 30:86-93. Sloan JH, Rivara FP, Reay DT, Ferris JA, Kellermann AL. Firearm regulations and rates of suicide. A comparison of two metropolitan areas. N Engl J Med. 1990;322(6):369-73. Webster DW, Vernick JS, Hepburn LM. Relationship between licensing, registration, and other gun sales laws and the source of state of crime guns. Injury Prevention. 2001; 7:184-189. Webster DW, Vernick JS, Zeoli AM, Manganello JA. Association between youth-focused firearm laws and youth suicides. JAMA. 2004; 292(10):1178. Wintemute GJ, Parham CA, Beaumont JJ, Wright M, Drake C. Mortality among recent purchasers of handguns. N Engl J Med. 1999;341(21):1583-9. For More Information Contact: Mary Vriniotis, MS Communications Liaison Harvard Injury Control Research Center (617)432-3271 www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc Can you point out where any of this material shows how many gun related deaths occured as a result of guns purchased legally at a Wal-Mart store? Give me a break and read. I'm not letting you get by with that. You posted a bunch of stuff that adds nothing to your argument. That is a strategy people use when they want to appear to be answering a question, when in reality they have said nothing. You haven't even read.... Please!

So according to you I have to choose or the other? But I choose God. All Christians are choosing God. I am saying that the material you are reading outside of scripture is going to be slanted left or right. So reading history books is propaganda... Please next you'll tell me, reading about Israel's history has given me a conservative or liberal slant which is? Just because I don't believe what you believe..... What history books? It depends on who the author is whether is it propaganda or not. The truth is, you like to agrue and you find this fun and exciting. I don't like to argue, so there is no point.

So according to you I have to choose or the other? But I choose God. All Christians are choosing God. I am saying that the material you are reading outside of scripture is going to be slanted left or right. So reading history books is propaganda... Please next you'll tell me, reading about Israel's history has given me a conservative or liberal slant which is? Just because I don't believe what you believe.....

Hmm....good question. I'm assuming you have the answer and can prove it through reliable statistical reports? I'm going to go out on a limb here and propose that many, if not most, gun related killings are committed by people who procured their weapons from illegal sources, not from Wal-Mart. t. Most are done in the heat of the moment or by accident. Harvard Injury Control Research Center Fact Sheet: More Guns, More Deaths Over the past decade there has been substantial progress in empirically examining the extent to which the availability of firearms may be related to increased mortality. This document outlines key research in homicide, suicide, unintentional gun deaths, gun carrying, and self-defensive gun use. For a quick introduction to the public health approach to studying firearm injury and death, see: Hemenway, David. The public health approach to motor vehicles, tobacco and alcohol, with applications to firearms policy. Journal of Public Health Policy. 2001; 22:381- 402. For a comprehensive summary of the literature on the relationship between guns and injuries and a thorough understanding of how the public health field can minimize the adverse effects of guns, see: Hemenway, David. Private Guns, Public Health. Ann Arbor, MI: University of Michigan Press, 2004. SUICIDE Miller M, Hemenway D; Azrael D. Firearms and suicide in the Northeast. Journal of Trauma. 2004;57:626-632. Major Finding: This study analyzed mortality data and hospital discharge data on selfinflicted injury and Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance System data on household firearm ownership from seven states in the Northeast. It found that firearm prevalence was positively related to the suicide rate, even after controlling for rates of attempted suicide. Miller M, Hemenway D. The relationship between firearms and suicide: A review of the literature. Aggression and Violent Behavior. 1999; 4:59-75. Major Finding: This review of the scientific literature on the relationship between gun ownership levels and suicide rates finds that the vast majority of current evidence indicates that gun availability is a risk factor for suicide in the US. Dahlberg LL, Ikeda RM, Kresnow MJ. Guns in the home and risk of a violent death in the home: findings from a national study. American Journal of Epidemiology. 2004; 160(10):929-36. Harvard Injury Control Research Center February 22, 2005 2 Major Findings: Analysis of a US mortality follow-back survey finds that among a sample of people who died at home, those who had a gun in the home were at significantly higher risk than those who did not of dying from homicide or from suicide, regardless of storage practice, type of gun, or number of firearms in the home. Brent DA and Bridge J. Firearms availability and suicide: a review of the literature. American Behavioral Scientist. 2003; 46: 1192-1210. Major Findings: Case-control studies show an association between firearms in the home and completed suicide, with higher risks associated with loaded guns and handguns in the home. Quasi-experimental studies also show a relationship between greater restrictiveness of gun control laws and lower suicide rates by firearms and overall, although some studies fail to show an effect or show method substitution. A prospective study shows that handgun purchasers have an elevated risk for suicide for up to 6 years after the purchase. Wiebe D. Homicide and suicide risks associated with firearms in the home: a national case-control study. Ann Emerg Med. 2003; 41(6):771-82. Major Findings: Using nationally-representative population survey data and mortality follow-back data on homicide and suicide victims, this study found that adults in homes with guns were at a significantly higher risk of suicide and homicide than adults in homes without guns, especially for suicide by firearm. Miller M, Azrael D, Hemenway D. Household firearm ownership levels and suicide across US regions and states, 1988-1997. Epidemiology. 2002;13: 517-24. Major Findings: The authors analyzed the relationship between firearm availability and suicide across 50 states over a ten year period. After controlling for poverty and urbanization, for every age group, across the United States, people in states with many guns have elevated rates of suicide, particularly firearm suicide. Grossman D, Mueller B, Riedy C, et al. Guns storage practices and risk of youth suicide and unintentional firearm injuries . JAMA, 2005;293 (6):707-714. Major Findings: This case control study measured the association between household gun storage practices (locking guns, locking ammunition, storing guns unloaded) and the risk of unintentional and self-inflicted firearm injuries. Each was associated with a protective effect, suggesting a feasible strategy to reduce firearm injury in homes with guns and youths. . Harvard Injury Control Research Center February 22, 2005 3 HOMICIDE Hepburn L, Hemenway D. Firearm availability and homicide: A review of the literature. Aggression and Violent Behavior: A Review Journal. 2004; 9:417-440. Major Finding: A broad array of evidence from the academic literature indicates that gun availability is a risk factor for homicide, both in the United States and across high income countries. Case-control studies, ecological time-series and cross-sectional studies indicate that, controlling for urbanicity, in homes, cities, states and regions in the US, where there are more guns, both men and women are at higher risk for homicide, particularly firearm homicide. Wiebe D. Homicide and suicide risks associated with firearms in the home: a national case-control study. Ann Emerg Med. 2003; 41(6):771-82. Major Findings: Using nationally-representative population survey data and mortality follow-back data on homicide and suicide victims, this study found that adults in homes with guns were at a significantly higher risk of suicide and homicide than adults in homes without guns. The risk of homicide was particularly high among women compared with men. Cook PJ, Moore M. Guns, gun control and homicide: a review of research and public policy. In: MD Smith & MA Zahn, eds. Homicide: A Sourcebook of Social Research. Thousand Oaks, CA: Sage, 1999. Major Findings: This chapter reviews trends in gun ownership and examines use of guns for self defense and for criminal purposes, concluding that: 1) gun use for selfdefense is relatively rare, and 2) while there is little evidence that robbery and assault rates are influenced by gun prevalence, there is compelling evidence of a strong association between guns and lethal robbery and assault (i.e. homicide). The relationship between instrumentality and availability of guns and homicide is explored, and public policy recommendations for reducing gun violence are made. Miller M, Azrael D, Hemenway D. Household firearm ownership levels and homicide rates across US regions and states, 1988-1997. American Journal of Public Health. 2002; 92: 1988-93. Major Finding: An analysis of the relationship between firearm availability and homicide across 50 states over a ten year period, and found that after controlling for poverty and urbanization, for every age group, people in states with many guns have elevated rates of homicide, particularly firearm homicide. Kellermann AL, Rivara FP, Rushforth NB, et al. Gun ownership as a risk factor for homicide in the home. New England Journal of Medicine. 1993; 329:1084-91. Harvard Injury Control Research Center February 22, 2005 4 Major Finding: This case-control study found that after controlling for various characteristics (e.g. neighborhood, race, age, living alone, drug use), keeping a gun in the home was strongly associated with an increased risk of homicide victimization. Virtually all of this risk involved homicide by a family member or intimate acquaintance. UNINTENTIONAL DEATHS Wiebe DJ. Firearms in U.S. homes as a risk factor for unintentional gunshot fatality. Accident Analysis and Prevention. 2003; 35: 711-16. Major Findings: In this case-control study comparing subjects living in homes with guns to those without (and adjusting for covariates), the relative risk for dying from an unintentional gunshot injury was 3.7 times higher for adults living in homes with guns. Having handguns in the home was associated with the largest effect estimates. Miller M, Azrael D, Hemenway D. Firearm availability and unintentional firearm deaths, suicide, and homicide among 5-14 year olds. Journal of Trauma. 2002; 52: 267-75. Major Findings: The authors analyzed the relationship between firearm availability and homicide, suicide, and unintentional gun death for 5-14 year olds across the 50 states over a ten year period. Children in states with many guns have elevated rates of suicide, homicide, and unintentional gun deaths compared to children in states with fewer guns. The state rates of non-firearm suicide and non-firearm homicide among children are not related to firearm availability. Miller M, Azrael D, Hemenway D. Firearm availability and unintentional firearm deaths. Accident Analysis and Prevention. 2001; 33:477-84. Major Findings: An analysis of data from 50 states over 19 years investigating the relationship between gun prevalence and accidental gun deaths across different age groups finds that for every age group, where there are more guns there are more accidental deaths. The mortality rate was 7 times higher in the four states with the most guns compared to the four states with the fewest guns. GUN CARRYING Donahue J. Guns, crime, and the impact of state right-to-carry laws. Fordham Law Review. 2004; 73(2): 623-652. Major Finding: This chapter reviews the literature on right-to-carry laws and their relationship to murder, rape, assault, and property crimes such as robbery, burglary, Harvard Injury Control Research Center February 22, 2005 5 and larceny. The author concludes that there is no evidence of reduction in violent or property crime when right-to-carry laws are passed, and that if any association exists between gun carrying and crime, it is that right-to-carry laws are linked to increases in property crime. Hepburn L, Miller M, Azrael D, Hemenway D. The effect of non-discretionary concealed weapon carrying laws on homicide. Journal of Trauma. 2004; 56(3): 676-681. Major Findings: The authors analyzed the effect on homicide of changes in state-level gun carrying laws using pooled cross-sectional time-series data for 50 states from 1979-1998. There was no statistically significant association between changes in concealed carry laws and state homicide rates. The finding was consistent across a variety of models. Ludwig J. Concealed-gun-carrying laws and violent crime: Evidence from state panel data. International Review of Law and Economics. 1998; 18(3):239-254. Major Findings: This paper exploits the minimum age requirements for concealed-carry permits to more effectively control for unobserved variables that may vary over time. Since even permissive concealed-carry states have minimum age requirements, any deterrent benefits from these laws should be concentrated among adults and, therefore, should be reflected in a gap between adult and juvenile victimization rates. The results suggest that shall-issue laws have resulted, if anything, in an increase in adult homicide rates. SELF-DEFENSE GUN USE Hemenway D, Azrael D. The relative frequency of offensive and defensive gun use: Results of a national survey. Violence and Victims. 2000; 15:257-272. Major Findings: Using data from a national random-digit-dial telephone survey, we examined the extent and nature of offensive gun use. Firearms are used far more often to frighten and intimidate than they are used in self-defense. All reported cases of criminal gun use, as well as many of the so-called self-defense gun uses, appear to be socially undesirable. Hemenway D, Miller M, Azrael, D. Gun use in the United States: Results from two national surveys. Injury Prevention. 2000; 6:263-267. Major Findings: Criminal court judges who read the self-reported accounts of purported self-defense gun use obtained from two national random-digit-dial surveys rated a majority as being illegal, even assuming that the respondent had a permit to own and to carry a gun, and that the respondent had described the event honestly from his own perspective. Harvard Injury Control Research Center February 22, 2005 6 McDowall D, Loftin C, Presser S. Measuring civilian defensive firearm use: A methodological experiment. Journal of Quantitative Criminology. 2000; 16:1-19. Major Findings: Estimates of the incidence of victim gun use from the National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS) are consistently lower than are those from other studies. To examine the divergence, we conducted a survey that gauged the impact of methodological differences between the NCVS and the other studies. For half of the sample, we asked questions from the NCVS, followed by questions from the other surveys. For the other half of the sample, we presented the questions in the reverse order. We examined two hypotheses: (1) survey methods account for the divergent results, and (2) the questions cover unrelated activities. The results provided some support for the first hypothesis, but respondents also reported many more defenses to the questions from the other surveys than to the NCVS questions. Consistent with the second hypothesis, this suggests that the NCVS and the other surveys measure responses to largely different provocations. Harvard Injury Control Research Center February 22, 2005 7 ADDITIONAL READING Brent DA, Perper JA, Allman CJ, et al. The presence and accessibility of firearms in the homes of adolescent suicides, a case-control study. JAMA. 1991; 266:2989-2995. Cook PJ, Ludwig J. Defensive gun uses: New evidence from a national survey. J Quant Criminol. 1998; 14(2): 111-131. Donohue J. The impact of concealed-carry laws. In Ludwig J, Cook PJ, eds. Evaluating Gun Policy. Washington D.C.: Brookings Institution press. 2003. Hemenway D, Miller M. Gun threats against and self-defense gun use by California adolescents. Archives of Pediatrics and Adolescent Medicine. 2004; 158: 395-400. Kendell RE. Catalytic converters and prevention of suicides [research letter]. The Lancet. 1998; 352(9139): 1525. Kreitman N. The coal gas story: UK suicide rates, 1960-71. Brit J Prev Soc Med. 1976; 30:86-93. Sloan JH, Rivara FP, Reay DT, Ferris JA, Kellermann AL. Firearm regulations and rates of suicide. A comparison of two metropolitan areas. N Engl J Med. 1990;322(6):369-73. Webster DW, Vernick JS, Hepburn LM. Relationship between licensing, registration, and other gun sales laws and the source of state of crime guns. Injury Prevention. 2001; 7:184-189. Webster DW, Vernick JS, Zeoli AM, Manganello JA. Association between youth-focused firearm laws and youth suicides. JAMA. 2004; 292(10):1178. Wintemute GJ, Parham CA, Beaumont JJ, Wright M, Drake C. Mortality among recent purchasers of handguns. N Engl J Med. 1999;341(21):1583-9. For More Information Contact: Mary Vriniotis, MS Communications Liaison Harvard Injury Control Research Center (617)432-3271 www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc Can you point out where any of this material shows how many gun related deaths occured as a result of guns purchased legally at a Wal-Mart store? Give me a break and read.

So according to you I have to choose or the other? But I choose God.

Hmm....good question. I'm assuming you have the answer and can prove it through reliable statistical reports? I'm going to go out on a limb here and propose that many, if not most, gun related killings are committed by people who procured their weapons from illegal sources, not from Wal-Mart. t. Most are done in the heat of the moment or by accident. Here's a study from Harvard, but wait is higher education liberal? Harvard Injury Control Research Center Fact Sheet: More Guns, More Deaths Over the past decade there has been substantial progress in empirically examining the extent to which the availability of firearms may be related to increased mortality. This document outlines key research in homicide, suicide, unintentional gun deaths, gun carrying, and self-defensive gun use. For a quick introduction to the public health approach to studying firearm injury and death, see: Hemenway, David. The public health approach to motor vehicles, tobacco and alcohol, with applications to firearms policy. Journal of Public Health Policy. 2001; 22:381- 402. For a comprehensive summary of the literature on the relationship between guns and injuries and a thorough understanding of how the public health field can minimize the adverse effects of guns, see: Hemenway, David. Private Guns, Public Health. Ann Arbor, MI: University of Michigan Press, 2004. SUICIDE Miller M, Hemenway D; Azrael D. Firearms and suicide in the Northeast. Journal of Trauma. 2004;57:626-632. Major Finding: This study analyzed mortality data and hospital discharge data on selfinflicted injury and Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance System data on household firearm ownership from seven states in the Northeast. It found that firearm prevalence was positively related to the suicide rate, even after controlling for rates of attempted suicide. Miller M, Hemenway D. The relationship between firearms and suicide: A review of the literature. Aggression and Violent Behavior. 1999; 4:59-75. Major Finding: This review of the scientific literature on the relationship between gun ownership levels and suicide rates finds that the vast majority of current evidence indicates that gun availability is a risk factor for suicide in the US. Dahlberg LL, Ikeda RM, Kresnow MJ. Guns in the home and risk of a violent death in the home: findings from a national study. American Journal of Epidemiology. 2004; 160(10):929-36. Harvard Injury Control Research Center February 22, 2005 2 Major Findings: Analysis of a US mortality follow-back survey finds that among a sample of people who died at home, those who had a gun in the home were at significantly higher risk than those who did not of dying from homicide or from suicide, regardless of storage practice, type of gun, or number of firearms in the home. Brent DA and Bridge J. Firearms availability and suicide: a review of the literature. American Behavioral Scientist. 2003; 46: 1192-1210. Major Findings: Case-control studies show an association between firearms in the home and completed suicide, with higher risks associated with loaded guns and handguns in the home. Quasi-experimental studies also show a relationship between greater restrictiveness of gun control laws and lower suicide rates by firearms and overall, although some studies fail to show an effect or show method substitution. A prospective study shows that handgun purchasers have an elevated risk for suicide for up to 6 years after the purchase. Wiebe D. Homicide and suicide risks associated with firearms in the home: a national case-control study. Ann Emerg Med. 2003; 41(6):771-82. Major Findings: Using nationally-representative population survey data and mortality follow-back data on homicide and suicide victims, this study found that adults in homes with guns were at a significantly higher risk of suicide and homicide than adults in homes without guns, especially for suicide by firearm. Miller M, Azrael D, Hemenway D. Household firearm ownership levels and suicide across US regions and states, 1988-1997. Epidemiology. 2002;13: 517-24. Major Findings: The authors analyzed the relationship between firearm availability and suicide across 50 states over a ten year period. After controlling for poverty and urbanization, for every age group, across the United States, people in states with many guns have elevated rates of suicide, particularly firearm suicide. Grossman D, Mueller B, Riedy C, et al. Guns storage practices and risk of youth suicide and unintentional firearm injuries . JAMA, 2005;293 (6):707-714. Major Findings: This case control study measured the association between household gun storage practices (locking guns, locking ammunition, storing guns unloaded) and the risk of unintentional and self-inflicted firearm injuries. Each was associated with a protective effect, suggesting a feasible strategy to reduce firearm injury in homes with guns and youths. . Harvard Injury Control Research Center February 22, 2005 3 HOMICIDE Hepburn L, Hemenway D. Firearm availability and homicide: A review of the literature. Aggression and Violent Behavior: A Review Journal. 2004; 9:417-440. Major Finding: A broad array of evidence from the academic literature indicates that gun availability is a risk factor for homicide, both in the United States and across high income countries. Case-control studies, ecological time-series and cross-sectional studies indicate that, controlling for urbanicity, in homes, cities, states and regions in the US, where there are more guns, both men and women are at higher risk for homicide, particularly firearm homicide. Wiebe D. Homicide and suicide risks associated with firearms in the home: a national case-control study. Ann Emerg Med. 2003; 41(6):771-82. Major Findings: Using nationally-representative population survey data and mortality follow-back data on homicide and suicide victims, this study found that adults in homes with guns were at a significantly higher risk of suicide and homicide than adults in homes without guns. The risk of homicide was particularly high among women compared with men. Cook PJ, Moore M. Guns, gun control and homicide: a review of research and public policy. In: MD Smith & MA Zahn, eds. Homicide: A Sourcebook of Social Research. Thousand Oaks, CA: Sage, 1999. Major Findings: This chapter reviews trends in gun ownership and examines use of guns for self defense and for criminal purposes, concluding that: 1) gun use for selfdefense is relatively rare, and 2) while there is little evidence that robbery and assault rates are influenced by gun prevalence, there is compelling evidence of a strong association between guns and lethal robbery and assault (i.e. homicide). The relationship between instrumentality and availability of guns and homicide is explored, and public policy recommendations for reducing gun violence are made. Miller M, Azrael D, Hemenway D. Household firearm ownership levels and homicide rates across US regions and states, 1988-1997. American Journal of Public Health. 2002; 92: 1988-93. Major Finding: An analysis of the relationship between firearm availability and homicide across 50 states over a ten year period, and found that after controlling for poverty and urbanization, for every age group, people in states with many guns have elevated rates of homicide, particularly firearm homicide. Kellermann AL, Rivara FP, Rushforth NB, et al. Gun ownership as a risk factor for homicide in the home. New England Journal of Medicine. 1993; 329:1084-91. Harvard Injury Control Research Center February 22, 2005 4 Major Finding: This case-control study found that after controlling for various characteristics (e.g. neighborhood, race, age, living alone, drug use), keeping a gun in the home was strongly associated with an increased risk of homicide victimization. Virtually all of this risk involved homicide by a family member or intimate acquaintance. UNINTENTIONAL DEATHS Wiebe DJ. Firearms in U.S. homes as a risk factor for unintentional gunshot fatality. Accident Analysis and Prevention. 2003; 35: 711-16. Major Findings: In this case-control study comparing subjects living in homes with guns to those without (and adjusting for covariates), the relative risk for dying from an unintentional gunshot injury was 3.7 times higher for adults living in homes with guns. Having handguns in the home was associated with the largest effect estimates. Miller M, Azrael D, Hemenway D. Firearm availability and unintentional firearm deaths, suicide, and homicide among 5-14 year olds. Journal of Trauma. 2002; 52: 267-75. Major Findings: The authors analyzed the relationship between firearm availability and homicide, suicide, and unintentional gun death for 5-14 year olds across the 50 states over a ten year period. Children in states with many guns have elevated rates of suicide, homicide, and unintentional gun deaths compared to children in states with fewer guns. The state rates of non-firearm suicide and non-firearm homicide among children are not related to firearm availability. Miller M, Azrael D, Hemenway D. Firearm availability and unintentional firearm deaths. Accident Analysis and Prevention. 2001; 33:477-84. Major Findings: An analysis of data from 50 states over 19 years investigating the relationship between gun prevalence and accidental gun deaths across different age groups finds that for every age group, where there are more guns there are more accidental deaths. The mortality rate was 7 times higher in the four states with the most guns compared to the four states with the fewest guns. GUN CARRYING Donahue J. Guns, crime, and the impact of state right-to-carry laws. Fordham Law Review. 2004; 73(2): 623-652. Major Finding: This chapter reviews the literature on right-to-carry laws and their relationship to murder, rape, assault, and property crimes such as robbery, burglary, Harvard Injury Control Research Center February 22, 2005 5 and larceny. The author concludes that there is no evidence of reduction in violent or property crime when right-to-carry laws are passed, and that if any association exists between gun carrying and crime, it is that right-to-carry laws are linked to increases in property crime. Hepburn L, Miller M, Azrael D, Hemenway D. The effect of non-discretionary concealed weapon carrying laws on homicide. Journal of Trauma. 2004; 56(3): 676-681. Major Findings: The authors analyzed the effect on homicide of changes in state-level gun carrying laws using pooled cross-sectional time-series data for 50 states from 1979-1998. There was no statistically significant association between changes in concealed carry laws and state homicide rates. The finding was consistent across a variety of models. Ludwig J. Concealed-gun-carrying laws and violent crime: Evidence from state panel data. International Review of Law and Economics. 1998; 18(3):239-254. Major Findings: This paper exploits the minimum age requirements for concealed-carry permits to more effectively control for unobserved variables that may vary over time. Since even permissive concealed-carry states have minimum age requirements, any deterrent benefits from these laws should be concentrated among adults and, therefore, should be reflected in a gap between adult and juvenile victimization rates. The results suggest that shall-issue laws have resulted, if anything, in an increase in adult homicide rates. SELF-DEFENSE GUN USE Hemenway D, Azrael D. The relative frequency of offensive and defensive gun use: Results of a national survey. Violence and Victims. 2000; 15:257-272. Major Findings: Using data from a national random-digit-dial telephone survey, we examined the extent and nature of offensive gun use. Firearms are used far more often to frighten and intimidate than they are used in self-defense. All reported cases of criminal gun use, as well as many of the so-called self-defense gun uses, appear to be socially undesirable. Hemenway D, Miller M, Azrael, D. Gun use in the United States: Results from two national surveys. Injury Prevention. 2000; 6:263-267. Major Findings: Criminal court judges who read the self-reported accounts of purported self-defense gun use obtained from two national random-digit-dial surveys rated a majority as being illegal, even assuming that the respondent had a permit to own and to carry a gun, and that the respondent had described the event honestly from his own perspective. Harvard Injury Control Research Center February 22, 2005 6 McDowall D, Loftin C, Presser S. Measuring civilian defensive firearm use: A methodological experiment. Journal of Quantitative Criminology. 2000; 16:1-19. Major Findings: Estimates of the incidence of victim gun use from the National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS) are consistently lower than are those from other studies. To examine the divergence, we conducted a survey that gauged the impact of methodological differences between the NCVS and the other studies. For half of the sample, we asked questions from the NCVS, followed by questions from the other surveys. For the other half of the sample, we presented the questions in the reverse order. We examined two hypotheses: (1) survey methods account for the divergent results, and (2) the questions cover unrelated activities. The results provided some support for the first hypothesis, but respondents also reported many more defenses to the questions from the other surveys than to the NCVS questions. Consistent with the second hypothesis, this suggests that the NCVS and the other surveys measure responses to largely different provocations. Harvard Injury Control Research Center February 22, 2005 7 ADDITIONAL READING Brent DA, Perper JA, Allman CJ, et al. The presence and accessibility of firearms in the homes of adolescent suicides, a case-control study. JAMA. 1991; 266:2989-2995. Cook PJ, Ludwig J. Defensive gun uses: New evidence from a national survey. J Quant Criminol. 1998; 14(2): 111-131. Donohue J. The impact of concealed-carry laws. In Ludwig J, Cook PJ, eds. Evaluating Gun Policy. Washington D.C.: Brookings Institution press. 2003. Hemenway D, Miller M. Gun threats against and self-defense gun use by California adolescents. Archives of Pediatrics and Adolescent Medicine. 2004; 158: 395-400. Kendell RE. Catalytic converters and prevention of suicides [research letter]. The Lancet. 1998; 352(9139): 1525. Kreitman N. The coal gas story: UK suicide rates, 1960-71. Brit J Prev Soc Med. 1976; 30:86-93. Sloan JH, Rivara FP, Reay DT, Ferris JA, Kellermann AL. Firearm regulations and rates of suicide. A comparison of two metropolitan areas. N Engl J Med. 1990;322(6):369-73. Webster DW, Vernick JS, Hepburn LM. Relationship between licensing, registration, and other gun sales laws and the source of state of crime guns. Injury Prevention. 2001; 7:184-189. Webster DW, Vernick JS, Zeoli AM, Manganello JA. Association between youth-focused firearm laws and youth suicides. JAMA. 2004; 292(10):1178. Wintemute GJ, Parham CA, Beaumont JJ, Wright M, Drake C. Mortality among recent purchasers of handguns. N Engl J Med. 1999;341(21):1583-9. For More Information Contact: Mary Vriniotis, MS Communications Liaison Harvard Injury Control Research Center (617)432-3271 www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc