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ONE IN UNITY is used in the case of Gen. 2:24, when the husband and wife were called ONE by God. How can the two in number, be One? This is possible only in the sense of UNITY. We can understand John 10:30 in this sense,

In John 8:53-55 we read the following exchanges between the pharisees and Jesus.... John 8 53 Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself? 54 Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is MY FATHER that honoureth me; OF WHOM YE SAY THAT HE IS YOUR GOD: 55 YET YE HAVE NOT KNOWN HIM; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying. How could that be possible when the fact is YHWH himself appeared unto their forefathers on several occasion in the Old Testament and introduced himself as their only God? Yet, Jesus rebuked them all and told otherwise, see!? Did Jesus lied to them? Of course not. The answer is very simple -- for me at least - - Jesus is YHWH himself, the Son of the unknown Invisible God Father, of whom NO man knew of his NAME at this time. Revelation 19 12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; AND HE HAD A NAME WRITTEN, THAT NO MAN KNEW, BUT HE HIMSELF. Ephesians 3:14-15 14 For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, 15 Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,..... God Bless

Scriptures document us that No man hath seen God at anytime. Instead, they saw YHWH/Jesus, the Son of God -- representing his Almighty God Father -- who is an invisible Spirit. John 8 56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. 57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? 58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. EXODUS 6 3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty (his invisible Father), but by my name Jehovah (YHWH) was I not known to them. God Bless Matthew 22:41-46 41While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them, 42 Saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, The son of David. 43 He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying, 44 The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool? 45 If David then call him Lord, how is he his son? 46 And no man was able to answer him a word, neither durst any man from that day forth ask him any more questions. Revelation 19 12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; AND HE HAD A NAME WRITTEN, THAT NO MAN KNEW, BUT HE HIMSELF. Ephesians 3:14-15 14 For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, 15 Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named, .... God Bless

Scriptures document us that No man hath seen God at anytime. Instead, they saw YHWH/Jesus, the Son of God -- representing his Almighty God Father -- who is an invisible Spirit. John 8 56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. 57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? 58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. EXODUS 6 3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty (his invisible Father), but by my name Jehovah (YHWH) was I not known to them. God Bless

Jesus prayed to his Almighty Father of whom no man hath seen at anytime nor knew of his name at this time. Jesus is YHWH himself, the Son of the Invisible God. The God of the Old and the New Testament is the same. His name is YHWH or Jesus. YHWH is the only God Physically Formed for us to see and witness. In him dwelleth all the fullness of God bodily (physically). The Almighty God Father is an invisible Spirit --who never change -- the Spirit of Love . His Only Image is that of his Son -- YHWH or Jesus. If you've seen him, you've seen the Father. God Bless

Dear shiloh357, How do you understand the use of "ECHAD" as a

OK, let us just cut the chase, shiloh357, and go directly to the issue... Here

I would not say that Jesus is not YHVH. It simply does not follow that the Father isn't also YHVH. That's alright with me, since, it is only based on your own religious opinion. So, how many are they (Father & Son) based on your religious assumption? Thanks

I thought I made myself clear already... Again, here's the continuing question for further discussion... Does anyone here knows who the speaker of Revelation 3:12 being quoted here AFTER the resurrection of Christ? If it is the Son, then, who is the Almighty God Father and how many are they, now? Revelation 3 12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name. Also Massorite, again as I said before, while Jesus also said specifically that he will write upon us his new name (Rev. 3:12), in the continuing context of the same text does not state that it will be a new name for his God, did it? Of course not! Now, please answer my continuing questions above specifically. Who is the Father and the Son being spoken in reference to Revelation 3:12. How many are they now? Thanks

OIC, I also believe in the truine of God as One (echad) -- except it differs with the traditional trinity doctrinal view. It is my understanding however, that Jesus is YHWH himself - the Son of the invisible God -- of whom no man (except him) hath seen at any time nor his name been reveal to anyone. I also believe that I have provided enough Scripture to support my view while my opposition here only based their traditional views on their own opinion -- with no Scriptural support. Does anyone here knows who the speaker of Revelation 3:12 being quoted here AFTER the resurrection of Christ? If it is the Son, then, who is the Almighty God Father and how many are they, now? Revelation 3 12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name. God Bless

In John 8:53-58 we read the following exchanges between the pharisees and Jesus.... John 8 53 Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself? v54 Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is MY FATHER that honoureth me; OF WHOM YE SAY THAT HE IS YOUR GOD: v55 YET YE HAVE NOT KNOWN HIM; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying. Can you see the implication of what Jesus asserted to the Jewish Scribes and Pharisees who were biblical scholars and authoritative of the Scripture -- He just told them that they have NOT known his Father of whom they claimed him to be their God! How could that be possible? In fact, YHWH had appeared unto their forefathers on several occasions in the OT and told them that He is their God. The only God physically formed for them to see and witness (in the old testament) -- since, except the Son, no man, hath seen God at anytime . If so then, who was the "Lord" who appeared physically unto Abraham and unto their forefathers in the old testament? Is Jesus lying or telling the truth -- if no man hath seen God? Let us continue reading... John 8 56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. v57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? v58 Jesus said unto them, verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. The answer is very simple to me at least -- Jesus told them the truth!!! He is YHWH himself -- the Son of God -- who appeared unto their forefathers. Else, there would just be too many biblical contradictions to overcome to claim otherwise -- since, no man hath seen God at anytime -- who is an invisible Spirit that never change. JMHO God Bless

Scripture says No man knows the name of the Almighty God Father -- even to this date -- until we overcometh in the end - and only then the name of the Father would be revealed. Therefore, YHWH could not have been the Almighty Father, as others would us to believe -- since we all know his name, correct? Look and read: Revelation 3 12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name. While Jesus also said that he will write upon us his new name (Rev. 3:12), the context of the same text regarding the name of his God does not state that it will be a new name, am I correct? And if YHWH is the Almighty God himself, then Jesus is only pulling our legs -- promising to reveal the name of his God -- when in fact, it's already widely known to us -- as documented in the Scripture (OT)! If so, what do we have to overcometh? Ephesians 3 14 For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, v15 Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,

Matthew 22:41-46 41While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them, 42 Saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, The son of David. 43 He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying, 44 The LORD said unto my Lord (David's Lord), Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool? 45 If David then call him Lord, how is he his son? 46 And no man was able to answer him a word, neither durst any man from that day forth ask him any more questions. Based on my understanding of the Scripture, Jesus Christ is YHWH himself, the Son of the Invisible Almighty God Father -- whose name is not yet known to any man, at this time. JMHO I might be wrong though -- your thoughts are appreciated ... Note: Insertions are mine for clarity of my thoughts. God Bless

Dear Thaddaeus, The physical making of Adam from the MUD becoming a natural living soul (flesh and blood) is not an image and likeness of God. The Almighty God is a Spirit WITHOUT physical shape or form. In order to be created in the image and likeness of God, one must be CREATED spiritually in Christ