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I've been going over Ezekiel again because I needed to re-familiarize with all the details in case I miss anything .. that done, I would like to share the points I have noted AFTER THIS OPENING POST is first addressed .. which things are these : NONE of us want to be accused of BIAS which comes from pre conceptions leading to DESIRED outcomes (which EDITS instead of INCLUDES) to change meanings to OUR whims instead of God's parameters/meanings. Likewise, none of us would ever like to admit to faulty thought processes, which doesn't imply every thought process we have is necessarily faulty, but is more relative to TOPICS, where biases, be they unbeknown or not, can and DO lead to faulty thinking processes which BLINDS one to reason .. and in doing so, usually unawares, so such faulty thinking processes can and do spread into other relative topics, leading one error to another within INTERRELATED topics. Now biases we all understand, and by "Faulty thinking processes", like this example : in the beginning was nothing, and nothing exploded .. is what I mean by "faulty thinking processes" .. since NOTHING means the absence of anything, then nothing can explode unless it were actually something .. since nothing is present to explode .. then nothing (in that line of thought) exploding is a faulty thinking process at play .. unless one CHANGES the meaning of NOTHING to mean 'something else' which of course is DISHONEST or CHEATING .. or .. the person doing so just doesn't realise he or she is doing this) And since most of us already know that Gog & Magog is only mentioned in two books within the scriptures, Ezekiel chapters 38 & 39 and Revelation chapter 20 .. it is important for all of us to FIRST acknowledge the parameters GOD has set according to TIMING concerning this particular prophecies FULFILLMENT .. and, any RELATION THEREAFTER regarding unfulfilled CONDITIONS (meaning time wise) if any, must be acknowledged too .. And these set and clearly apparent parameters below CAN NOT be denied as FACTS : Fact 1) Ezekiel makes NO mention of WHEN Gog & Magog OCCURS except to say the "Latter years" (open to conjecture) .. no other timeframe is set/given. Fact 2) Ezekiel DOES however REVEAL the CONDITIONS within the land of ISRAEL during THOSE TIMES of the attack itself .. conditions CAN point to TIMES .. not 'THE actual time' on it's own merits, but confirmable TIMES where Israel MAY have shared those same CONDITIONS throughout any set times in her history .. but when using this method one rule is always expected to be upheld BEFORE saying it is COMPLETED, and that is that ALL CONDITIONS must be present and none are to be discarded for convenience sake for COMPLETION to occur .. ALL conditions must be met to be considered the RIGHT TIME of COMPLETION or to permit DUALISMS. Fact 3) Revelation DOES mention WHEN the Gog & Magog attack occurs .. timeframe IS given .. and if fact 2's CONDITIONS of the TIMES can not be CERTAIN to ONE PARTICULAR TIME, then fact 3 becomes the authority of the TIMING .. furthermore, if ALL CONDITIONS correlate WITH the SAME TIMES of fact 3, then we have a certified match and have avoided blind assumptions and instead used informed DISCERNMENTS relative to those CONDITIONS v's SET TIME fulfillments. Now, we are ALL bound by the parameters/facts above .. that being so, when first working out a matter, logic always STARTS with a STARTING POINT .. which Revelation 20 PROVIDES .. which is Gog & Magog happens after the 1000 years .. only AFTER that STARTIMG POINT do we look at the CONDITIONS within any other relevant chapters within the bible containing NON SPECIFIED STARTING POINTS/time allotments, such as, CONDITIONS or the like, for to guide us if a STARTING POINT is ABSENT .. exactly as we find in Ezekiel chapters 38 & 39 .. UNSPECIFIED TIME using CONDITIONS as the MARKERS instead .. even considering those things which may bring into account dualisms, or the like. AND .. IF dualisms ARE present, then it WON'T just be the CONDITIONS ALONE (fact 2) which will DICTATE whether it be duality or not, no .. but dualisms ACCORDING to the SET TIME declared (fact 3) .. WHY do I say this? Because dualities are ONLY relevant when the SET TIME has expired for the dualities to be eligible to even register as UNMET CONDITIONS .. meaning, we can NOT say "Let's go kick around at the oval" when the oval isn't even built yet !!! It's just like saying, "So and so kicked 5 goals at the future oval yet to be made, and the crowd went wild" it is faulty thinking processes at play. Therefore, dualisms by their nature are always FORWARD RUNNING .. other words, dualities only come into play AFTER a DECLARED and SET TIME has EXPIRED .. meaning, any set TIME DECREE must be met before anyone can possibly say a duality is present or a CONDITION is LACKING because : ONLY through HIND SIGHT do we notice ANOMILIES which can not be EVIDENT until any given or SET TIME has expired . Which means, NOTHING could be CERTAIN if we took that train of thought except to be stranded at an abandoned train station still waiting for the train .. So looking closer, EVEN the conditions (fact 2) are bound by fact 3 .. which CONDITIONS (if indeed dualism is applicable) are ONLY let loose to begin their manifestations (start to "come into being") after any SET TIME is expired .. meaning dualities can only be FORWARD RUNNING and NOT backward running. WHY? Because ONLY God declares the END at the BEGINNING .. ONLY God knows what is to come. We humans must understand generationally .. which is, by the LAWS OF TIME, meaning >> FROM any present MOMENT/EVENT leading FORWARD. Which means that the below is WHEN (set time) the declared events concerning Gog & Magog MUST occur before ANY dualities can kick in .. Revelation 20:7-8 7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, 8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. Meaning AFTER the SET TIME declared expires, any conditions yet to be fulfilled that MAY be outstanding can only "kick in" AFTER the time for them to "Kick in" ARRIVES .. SEE? Because dualisms are FORWARD RUNNING and not the other way around. Which means, Gog & Magog ONLY occurs AFTER the millennium just as Christ revealed in the book of Revelation whereby any outstanding CONDITIONS not met within the prophesied time scale become APPARENT .. meaning .. IF this were a duality, then we MUST only look FORWARD, doing so ONLY IF there are ANY unmet CONDITIONS yet to be fulfilled AFTER the announced and set TIME has expired .. and not looking backward in time instead .. Prophetic dualism only goes ONE WAY >>>>>> forward. And with no disrespect intended, just an honest acknowledgment .. to say that Gog & Magog ALSO occurs BEFORE God's DECLARED TIME of "after the 1000 years" or to say any dualism is present BEFORE the SET TIME God declared, is to say that "nothing exploded into something" .. which reveals a FAULTY thinking process at work OR a BIAS is at play.