Ovedya Posted August 19, 2004 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 375 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 11,400 Content Per Day: 1.44 Reputation: 125 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/30/2002 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1971 Share Posted August 19, 2004 Yeah G-man. Do you find that it doesn't take a whole lot of intelligence to count several thousand dead Kurds? Let's see....One, two, three, four, five, six......Nope. It doesn't take too mcuh grey matter between the ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest charlie Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 (edited) The 1991 Kurdish massacre, which targeted civilians and soldiers who fought for autonomy in northern Iraq after the Gulf war. (yod @ Aug 19 2004, 11:36 AM) Yeah G-man. Do you find that it doesn't take a whole lot of intelligence to count several thousand dead Kurds? Edited August 20, 2004 by charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgolvach Posted August 20, 2004 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 110 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,254 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/28/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted August 20, 2004 The U.N. charter that allowed Bush Sr. to build the coalition he did not allow us to take Saddam out. If he would have stated that as his goal he never would have recieved the support he did. If you want to do what is nessecary don't sit around for a debating club to give you permission. Again '' Usless Nations". Hussain should have been put down years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest yod Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 oh man....I remember the Kurds. That was horrible!!! Like the previous post said, Bush put a coalition together without agreement on taking Saddam down....only getting him out of Kuwait. Then, when Saddam knew we couldn't do anything about it legally, he began gassing all those people and they started running for the hills. That should have been all it took for us to bomb Saddams army into oblivion...but fat chance. Too late. Bush didn't lift a finger to help them until many thousands were gone. Maybe that is why he lost the election? Same thing happened in the south with the Sunni's (or was it the Shi'ites?) Once Saddam knew he could get away with it he went and found his enemies there and killed a few thow more folks. At least he won't be doing it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest charlie Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 The U.N. charter that allowed Bush Sr. to build the coalition he did not allow us to take Saddam out. If he would have stated that as his goal he never would have recieved the support he did. If you want to do what is nessecary don't sit around for a debating club to give you permission. Again '' Usless Nations". Hussain should have been put down years ago. Oh but he was our "friend" and our govt was his friend, for years despite "knowing" about his using chemical weapons..... among other things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest yod Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 charlie...that was the late 70s. He was our "friend" because he wanted to make war with Iran. The radical islam of Iran posed a great danger then....and in fact still does. A lot changed over the last 30 years though. It became evident that Saddam was just as much a threat to the stability of the Middle East and thus became our enemy. Have you never had a friend who turned into an enemy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted August 20, 2004 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 86 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 624 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/20/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted August 20, 2004 A lot changed over the last 30 years though. It became evident that Saddam was just as much a threat to the stability of the Middle East and thus became our enemy. Translation: We supply weapons to a country as long as it's politically convenient then at the drop of a hat we turn around and attack them, even though we ignored all the human rights violations in the country the whole time we were supplying weapons to said country. "Character is like a tree and reputation like its shadow. The shadow is what we think of it; the tree is the real thing." -Abraham Lincoln Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest yod Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 Translation: We supply weapons to a country as long as it's politically convenient then at the drop of a hat we turn around and attack them, even though we ignored all the human rights violations in the country the whole time we were supplying weapons to said country. Translation: America should be blown by the wind. We should never try to influence world events in a favorable way. We should build a big fence and stay inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted August 20, 2004 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 86 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 624 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/20/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted August 20, 2004 Translation: America should mind their own business be blown by the wind. We should never try to influence world events with our military unless it affects our security in a favorable way. We should build a country that people respect a big fence and stay inside. Fixed it for ya Yod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest charlie Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 (edited) Steff He was our "friend" because he wanted to make war with Iran. We knew our "friend" Saddam was using chemical weapons on the Iranians (in the 1980s); also known as WMDs - the very thing we used as an "excuse" to invade Iraq. Iran wouldn't have been our enemy in the first place if our govt. had not "butted" into Iran's business. Right is right and wrong is wrong no matter who's doing it. Our govt. is *supposedly* fighting a war on terrorists and countries that harbor terrorists when our own govt. has aided and abetted terrorist regeimes and installed "puppet" governments in various parts of the world; even at the expense of a struggling democracy in some of these countries. A lot of these terrorists we're *supposedly* fighting were equipped and trained by our own CIA. pot-kettle-black!! That's why our country is no longer a beacon to the world. Edited August 20, 2004 by charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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