The Pre-Wrath Rapture - Article

[BlessedByTheBest]

this has started off well. i expected this to become a hot-bed of debate.

perhaps i should be grateful then..

[BlessedByTheBest]

found this to be an interesting read.

http://bible-truth.org/Pre-Wrath.html

[Guest]

this has started off well. i expected this to become a hot-bed of debate.

perhaps i should be grateful then..

Maybe not, I don't debate the pre-wrath position because it is barely different that the post trib position. In fact depending on the flavors of the prewrath and post trib positions, there is no difference, A number of years ago, I bought a book on pre-wrath only to discover that that pre-wrath book, was a barely modified pre-trib positon. Since I have not found a uniform agreement on what the pre-wrath postion is, I see no reason to even have a position on it. I bicker about pre-trib and mid trib (or I might, though I haven't) simply because I find them so foreign to scripture, and potentially dangerous. My suspicion is, if you get debate in here on this topic blessed, it will come from someone in the pre-trib rapture camp.

[BlessedByTheBest]

God bless

 

i thought i would post these to see if our resident experts would care to affirm or deny any of these points:

 

http://www.alankurschner.com/2012/07/31/articles-of-prewrath/

 

 

 

Articles of Prewrath

1. There is a future seven-year period, and at the midpoint the Antichrist will be revealed and commit the abomination of desolation, initiating his great tribulation against the Church and Israel.
2. There is a biblical distinction between the Antichrist’s great tribulation against the Church and Israel and the day of the Lord’s wrath against the ungodly. The latter event happens after the former event.
3. The gathering of the elect mentioned in Matthew 24:31 refers to the rapture (cf. Mark 13:27; Luke 21:28; Rev 7:9–17; 1 Thess 4:13–18; 2 Thess 2:1).
4. At an unknown day and hour during the second half of the seven-year period, the Antichrist’s great tribulation will be cut short by the Revelation of Christ to resurrect and rapture God’s people, and this will be followed immediately by the day of the Lord’s wrath executed upon the ungodly.
5. On the same day the rapture happens, the onset of the day of the Lord’s wrath takes place, just as it was in the days of Noah and Lot (Luke 17:22–37; cf. 2 Thess 1:5–10).
6. The second coming (parousia) is not a simple (instantaneous) event. The second coming is a complex-whole event containing various purposes of God, beginning with the Revelation of Christ in the sky displaying his Shekinah glory and power to the whole world, and resurrecting and rapturing God’s people, followed by the day of the Lord’s judgments upon the ungodly and Antichrist’s kingdom, restoring Israel to salvation, and culminating in Christ’s earthly reign.
7. Although Armageddon is an element within the complex-whole second coming, Armageddon does not initiate the second coming; instead, the second coming begins between the sixth and seventh seal.
8. The resurrection and rapture happens between the opening of the sixth seal and the seventh seal.
9. The first six seals are not part of the day of the Lord’s wrath. The first six seals are conditional events that must happen before Christ’s return.
10. The sixth seal signals the impending day of the Lord’s wrath as recorded in Joel 2:30–31; Matthew 24:29; Luke 21:25–26; Mark 13:23–25; and Revelation 6:12–17.
11. The seventh seal pronounces the day of the Lord’s wrath.
12. The trumpets, bowls, and Armageddon contain and execute the day of the Lord’s wrath.
13. The trumpets, bowls, and Armageddon will not occur before the seventh seal is opened.
14. Paul’s “last trumpet” (1 Cor 15:52) is not identified as the seventh trumpet judgment in the book of Revelation.
15. Christ’s return to resurrect and rapture God’s people is not imminent (“any moment”), since discernible prophesied events must happen first (e.g., the Antichrist’s revelation and his ensuing great tribulation; the apostasy; coming of Elijah; and a cluster of discernible celestial events). Christ can return in any generation of the Church.