Never Alone Posted October 18, 2023 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 23 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 10 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/26/2023 Status: Offline Share Posted October 18, 2023 . What was Mohammud's Dispute With The Jews Around Him ? ‘’ Mohammad claims that Islamic Torah and Gospels were already there with him at his time - Mohammad claims that Islamic Torah and Gospels were there with him confirming his very exact message. ‘’ Yet we see the Muslims of his day running around frantically, in a frenzied reverence just to go about scratching and etching upon stones, bark, wood, and animal skins, just to etch and scrawl something down that was already written in the Torah and Gospels. All they had to do was go to a village or a city just a few miles away and make a copy and translate the scriptures. Yet, Islam goes through this entire process - of "" Re - Processing "" all of this information through another spiritual entity called " Gee - briel “ an angel “ and Mohammud is making the claim that all of this information was already written down and with them in the very same exact land where they lived. in Torah and Gospels - as an already existing written book and an existing faith that was vindicating Islam MOAHMMAUD HAD THE TORAH AND GOSPELS WITH HIM - all around him in the very land where he lived and yet, his followers go around scrawling and scratching and etching on leaves, bark, wood and sticks, and rocks and skins, something that was already supposed to be in the same area where they lived. In The Torah and Gospels. How is this something revelatory or prophetic as "" revelations, "" to repeat stories and passages of a book that already supposedly already exists and is well known and spread to hundreds of thousands or people - just a few miles away from Mohammud's very doorstep ? Surah 94: “ So, (O prophet,) EVEN IF YOU ARE IN DOUBT about what We have sent down to you, ASK THOSE WHO READ THE BOOK (revealed) before you. Surely, truth has come to you from your Lord, so NEVER BE AMONG THOSE who are suspicious.” Here, the Quran is commanding people to believe in the Torah and Gospels and take these books as God's word and as truth, and to not be among those - who are suspicious….. Yet, all the Muslims had to do was simply take a short journey and walk to a nearby city or ask among the passing caravans for a copy of the scriptures, yet they don’t do that…. instead they use Mohammad to contact some unknown, unseen spiritual identity - to tell them what a book says that already exists all around them - just a few miles from their doorstep. Mohammad claims to be going about reciting the Torah and Gospels and throughout his whole life, Muslims are depicted as to clinging to every single last word Mohammud is repeatedly continually demanding ! - - LOOK - CHECK - look CONFIRM - in the Torah and Gospels - this is my very message - my message is the same exact message that is also confirmed in the Torah and Gospels. - HOW DOES THIS PROCESS MAKE SOMEONE A PROPHET - with revelation - he is not even claiming or demonstrating to be prophesying and foretelling and revealing something that is unknown and showing people something that is unknown and needs to be revealed...... Mohammud's claim and very words in the Quran continually repeat the same message saying that " my very Islamic message - my message, is the same exact message that is also confirmed in the Torah and Gospels. " Is this process truly confirming something as prophecy and revelation and truth by taking the contents from one book that is available for everyone and then translating and copying them into another language. ? In conclusion - - I ask Muslims one question what was it about the faith and belief system of the Jews where Mohammud lived that was in disobedience and against the core teachings of the Quran ? I submit that there is not a single piece of any evidence that demonstrates that the Jews where Mohammud lived were in conflict nor disagreement with the core teachings of the Quran. in fact the Jews did not reject Mohammud’s core basic message about God’s laws, the jews did not disagree with Mohammud about the oneness of God = the jews did not disagree with anything regarding the moral code of God and his laws about idols and sin and the commandments of God. so - what was Mohammud’s big problem with the jews ? what was Mohammud upset with the jews about concerning their faith ? the jews around Mohammud believed that God was one single God - the jews did not worship idols and other God’ s – in fact the jews around Mohammud - they rejected that jesus was the son of God, the jews accepted every single last commandment that Mohammud concluded about basic critical laws of God. Mohammud mentions nothing about moral or law disagreements that he had with the jews, the jews around Mohammud - are not shown to have disagreed with Mohammuds moral code - every single commandment and every single critical core and basic law and ordinance of God that Mohammud eventually decided - the jews obeyed and believed. Yet - Mohammud - demands that the jews are the worst creatures that have ever existed on the planet. Can Muslims can produce a single example of where the jews around Mohammud disobeyed the quran - or - a single example - where that the jews around Mohammud failed to accept the laws of God or failed to believe and accept in the moral code of every single last thing in the quran. Can Muslims produce a single example of where the jews around Mohammud disobeyed the quran the Jews did not disagree with Mohammed upon basic principles regarding idols, adultery, murder, theft, the trinity, Sabbath, the oneness of God, the moral obligations of a faith. in Fact - The Jews held to even a much stricter law and teaching about not divorcing your wife for no just cause or reason the jews accepted every single last core and basic commandment that Mohammud concluded about basic core laws of God in the Quran. - Mohammud mentions nothing about moral or law disagreements that he had with the jews. The jews around Mohammud - are not shown to have disagreed with Mohammuds moral code - every single commandment and every single critical core and basic law and ordinance of God that Mohammud eventually decided - the jews obeyed and believed. Yet, Mohammud - demands that the jews are the worst creatures that have ever existed on the planet. Can Muslims can produce a single example of where the jews around Mohammud disobeyed the quran - or - a single example - where that the jews around Mohammud failed to accept the laws of God within the Quran or failed to believe and accept in the core principles of moral code of every single last thing in the quran. Can Muslims produce a single example of where the jews around Mohammud disobeyed the quran ? the Jews did not disagree with Mohammed upon basic principles regarding idols, adultery, murder, theft, the trinity, Sabbath, the oneness of God, the moral obligations of a faith was Mohamud's dispute with the Jews - because the Jews did not buy and sell slaves and participate in the slave trade ? was Mohamud's dispute with the Jews - because the Jews did not capture women and enslave them and and have sexual intercourse with these slaves without a condition of mutual love and and full agreement of marriage ? was Mohamud's dispute with the Jews because - the Jews did not practice temporary short term " MUTTAH " marriages just for a few hours or days of sexual gratification ? was Mohamud's dispute with the Jews - because the Jews did not teach that divorce for any reason was justified in the eyes of God ? was Mohamud's dispute with the Jews - because the Jews did not beat their wives when their wives disobeyed their husbands sexual demands and ? Quran 4:34) for those women on whose part ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, (and last) beat them. Then, if they obey you, seek not a way against them. the Jews did not disagree with Mohammed upon basic principles regarding idols, adultery, murder, theft, the trinity, Sabbath, the oneness of God, the moral obligations of ones faith - but yet Mohammud demands that the Jews are considered the most horrible and worst of all creatures upon the earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never Alone Posted October 19, 2023 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 23 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 10 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/26/2023 Status: Offline Author Share Posted October 19, 2023 . i think my main point was that how the entire condemnation of the Jews from an - Old Testament perspective - is centered around differences and matters that are very trivial ✒ inconsequential ✒ microscopic ✒ nonessential ✒ and so small in consequence. all of the basic principles regarding animal sacrifices, circumcision, idols, adultery, murder, theft, the trinity, sabbath, the oneness of God, even the simple basic moral obligations of justice and morals, all these basic important principles in Islam that the Quran teaches ☞ the Jews themselves also believed perfectly. yes, the Quran goes off the rails and perverts and alters these things in a very perverted and distorted way but the Jews did not disagree and dispute with Mohammud about the things that the Quran considered essential for so - called righteous Muslims. The main disputes were centered around the person of Mohammud himself and regarding his importance and personal significance and role in propagating a message and faith system that he claims already was written and well known in the New and Old Testament. Mohammud claims that all of his teachings were confirmed in the Bible that existed in the very time in which he lived - the 7 th century. The Old Testament still today holds the same teachings about - animal sacrifices, circumcision, idols, adultery, murder, theft, the trinity, sabbath, the oneness of God. for example, the knowledge and future coming of the Lord Jesus Christ is not mentioned or made known in the OId Testament, it is described in 1Pe 1: 10 - 12 - saying :10 Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: :11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of The ANOINTING / CHRIST which was IN them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of the anointing / Christ, and the glory that should follow. :12 Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Spirit Holy sent down from heaven....................... this is explaining that the prophets did not receive the revelation of the Lord Jesus Christ - Jesus Christ the son of God was never revealed to them ✒ ☞ revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us - - - - they ministered the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Spirit Holy sent down from heaven meaning in the Old Testament manuscripts ︸ Christ / The Anointing was IN these Old Testament prophets as they suffered as prophets who were filled with Christ in them- the spirit of God anointing them and ..... their very suffering that they endured for the sake of the Anointing / Christ in them signified and declared and testified the future suffering of Christ / The Anointing - the Son Of God - to come in the future. 〘 this was not revealed to them as knowledge and understanding they understood - 〙 this was kept secret, hidden from them, unknown,. meaning = they are a testimony that the Anointing / Christ was in them - but they did not testify of the Son Of God, whom was born in the last days - but testified in their suffering the same suffering that the Spirit of God would also come to suffer as the Anointing, Jesus Christ to come in the future. I just don't see the reasoning and purpose of the Quran / Islam / Mohammud pronouncing condemnation in claiming the Old Testament has been corrupted because the Old Testament still today ︸ holds the same teachings about - animal sacrifices, circumcision, idols, adultery, murder, theft, the trinity, sabbath, the oneness of God.. 〘 this all seems proven to be simply a personal grievance, offence and resentment for the racial personality and existence of the Hebrew people who have preserved their scriptures perfectly - and Mohammud is envious and filled with jealousy, resentment and personal conflict with the ☞ Jewish race and ☞ the very existence of Jews calling themselves Jews, - existing as a people with scriptures and faith ↩ independently ☞ existence of Jews living in their homeland, of Jews having preserved scriptures ☞ existence of Jews not being dependent upon his revelations and prophecies and spiritual claims all of this resentment, hatred and jealousy and anger is transmitted and projected into contradiction and complete inconsistency to decry, condemn, denounce, censure, discredit and vilify the Old Testament manuscripts as corruption - when the evidence shows that the Old Testament still today holds these same exact teachings about ☞ animal sacrifices, circumcision, idols, adultery, murder, theft, the trinity, sabbath, the oneness of God. Islam wants to be important and uplifted as the missing piece of the puzzle that replaces everything - when the Old Testament has not changed its core teaching - Islam is built completely on false claims and contradiction simply because personal feelings of resentment, hatred and jealousy, anger and racism are all that matters in the very core of Islam. ↩ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never Alone Posted October 21, 2023 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 23 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 10 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/26/2023 Status: Offline Author Share Posted October 21, 2023 I believe Christ would have wanted each person whom he loves to know about why I believe Christ would demand that each person whom he loves - to know ☞ today know ✦ understand ✦ comprehend the reasoning and purpose of the Quran / Islam / Mohammud what is Mohammud pronouncing condemnation in claiming the Old Testament has been corrupted because the Old Testament still today ︸ today ︸ _ ✒ the Old Testament holds, values, promotes ♡ upholds and demands and ✣ ENVELOPES ✣ PREVERVES PRESERVATION of it's ANCIENT " self - same " continual teachings about - animal sacrifices, circumcision, idols, adultery, murder, theft, the trinity, sabbath, the oneness of God.. ☞ today just as yesterday 〘 this all seems proven to be simply a personal grievance, offence and resentment for the racial personality and distain - 〙 violent - rejection 〘 - for the existence of the Hebrew people who have preserved their scriptures perfectly why do Muslims claim that the Old Testament is corrupt and that the Jews are the very, very worst and lowest and most horrible of all creatures upon the earth - nothing is lower that a jew who follows his failed and corrupted Bible. What law from the Quran have the Jews broken ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never Alone Posted October 21, 2023 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 23 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 10 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/26/2023 Status: Offline Author Share Posted October 21, 2023 (edited) freaking join with me I am a partial Italian / Canaanite / - ☞ european, canaanite persian arabian / european join with me and defend Isreal because the Jews are deserving of self - defense and a homeland as a partial Italian, myself - - - ok ? - I'm just asking you to help me in uniting Italians as myself to support the Jews and their literal homeland and defending the people who want freedom and PEACE in the Middle East - without being hunted and hurt as - "" SUB - HUMAN "" - animals euro - pian / ara - bianian - - - - - - euro-pianian - Arabian / Europian I demend we come together and support Isreal - - - -today - - - ♡ NOW Edited October 21, 2023 by Never Alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never Alone Posted October 21, 2023 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 23 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 10 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/26/2023 Status: Offline Author Share Posted October 21, 2023 freaking join with me I am a partial Italian / Canaanite / - ☞ european, canaanite persian arabian / european join with me and defend Isreal because the Jews are deserving of self - defense and a homeland as a partial Italian, myself - - - ok ? - I'm just asking you to help me in uniting Italians as myself to support the Jews and their literal homeland and defending the people who want freedom and PEACE in the Middle East - without being hunted and hurt as - "" SUB - HUMAN "" - animals euro - pian / ara - bianian - - - - - - euro-pianian - Arabian / Europian I demend we come together and support Isreal - - - -today - - - ♡ NOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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