Matthitjah Posted February 9, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 1,285 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 17,917 Content Per Day: 2.26 Reputation: 355 Days Won: 19 Joined: 10/01/2002 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 9, 2007 Grace to you, by the handful of deniers Do you realize how those remarks can be read Forrest? It plays right into the same mindset that wants to force Climatologists out of their jobs for not agreeing. It also sounds alot like the language I saw today in another article from the Boston Globe in which "DENIERS" are equated with the Nazi's who caused the Holocaust. It also sounds alot like the speeches that Hugo Chavez makes down in Venzuela. Peace, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forrestkc Posted February 9, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 114 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,015 Content Per Day: 0.59 Reputation: 8 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/15/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted February 9, 2007 Grace to you, by the handful of deniers Do you realize how those remarks can be read Forrest? It plays right into the same mindset that wants to force Climatologists out of their jobs for not agreeing. It also sounds alot like the language I saw today in another article from the Boston Globe in which "DENIERS" are equated with the Nazi's who caused the Holocaust. It also sounds alot like the speeches that Hugo Chavez makes down in Venzuela. Peace, Dave You have a good point, and I will try not to use that term in the future. Howeve, it is the term that is typically applied to the few scientists out there who disagree with Anthropogenic Global Warming theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adarian Posted February 10, 2007 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 526 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/23/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/03/1961 Share Posted February 10, 2007 Solar activity changes in cycles. Has anyone ever measured the energy output of the sun day by day and year by year, to determine if it rises and falls in cycles? Has it ever occured to anyone to think that the sun might warm us up and then cool us down? I just have to wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forrestkc Posted February 10, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 114 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,015 Content Per Day: 0.59 Reputation: 8 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/15/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted February 10, 2007 Solar activity changes in cycles. Has anyone ever measured the energy output of the sun day by day and year by year, to determine if it rises and falls in cycles? Has it ever occured to anyone to think that the sun might warm us up and then cool us down? I just have to wonder. Yes it has. If our current warming were primarily a result of increased Solar Activity (solar forcing), then all levels of the atmosphere would be warming. We would be seeing a warming stratosphere, a warming troposphere, and a warming surface. This is because solar forcing would act upon all atmospheric levels. Now, in contrast, if our current warming is primarily a result og increased Greenhouse Gases, then we would see warming at the surface, a warming troposphere, and a cooling stratosphere. This is because Greenhouse Gases (CO2, Methane, and Water Vapor), prevent less heat from the sun escaping back into space, thus less heat is radiated back into the stratosphere, and thus while the lower atmosphere and surface of the earth warm, that stratosphere cools. An very exhaustive study on atmospheric temperatures was completed by the U.S. Climate Change Science Program. The study is titled, Temperature Trends in the Lower Atmosphere: Steps for Understanding and Reconciling Differences. This is what they found. The earth's surface is warming, the earth's troposphere is warming, and the stratosphere is cooling. This is completely consistent with Anthropogenic Global Warming. Moreover, a cooling stratosphere makes warming due to solar forcing as a near physical impossibility. The study is here: http://www.climatescience.gov/Library/sap/...ort/default.htm If you want, you can read more about the physics involved here: http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=58 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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