Blien Posted March 4, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 346 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 3,050 Content Per Day: 0.50 Reputation: 46 Days Won: 3 Joined: 10/02/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/26/1982 Share Posted March 4, 2008 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23451295/?GT1=43001 Police: Boyfriend wanted to kill girl's parents Teen suspect allegedly said that was 'the only way they could be together' EMORY, Texas - A high school couple forced to break up spent a month plotting to kill the girl’s parents before her mother and two younger brothers were fatally shot and stabbed in a weekend ambush, according to records released Monday. Charlie James Wilkinson, who had been dating Penny and Terry Caffey’s 16-year-old daughter, told police his girlfriend wanted her parents dead because they forbade their relationship, according to Rains County Sheriff Department investigators. “Wilkinson stated that he and (the girl) were in love and the only way they could be together is to kill the parents,” the arrest affidavit stated. The daughter, Wilkinson and two others are charged with three counts of capital murder each in the massacre before dawn Saturday at the Caffeys’ secluded home. The girl has not been identified because of her age. The statements depict a bloody spree that began just around 4 a.m., when Wilkinson and a friend broke into the house and are accused of firing shots at the parents while they slept. Wilkinson and Charles Allen Waid are then accused of going upstairs and fatally shooting 13-year-old Mathew Caffey before stabbing 8-year-old Tyler Caffey with a sword. Wilkinson and Waid then set fire to furniture and laundry before leaving with the Caffeys’ daughter and Bobbi Gale Johnson, who were waiting in a car parked down the road, according to the affidavit. The lone survivor was Terry Caffey, the father. He was shot five times and dragged his bloodied body 300 yards to a neighbor’s home. Tommy Gaston, the neighbor, said Monday that Terry Caffey was improving and should recover. The Caffeys’ daughter is being held on $1.5 million bond. Facing the same charges and bond are Wilkinson, 19, Waid, 20, and Johnson, 18. Waid, Johnson and Wilkinson are being held in the Rains County jail. The Caffeys’ daughter is being held in neighboring Hunt County’s juvenile detention center. It remained unclear early Monday whether they had attorneys. The Caffeys’ home was just outside Emory in Alba, about 60 miles northeast of Dallas. The killings stunned this town of 1,500 in rural East Texas, where the Caffeys were known as deeply religious and kindhearted. Students back in class On Monday, students at rural Rains High School returned to classes, still stunned by the weekend attack. Three of the four people arrested, excluding Waid, were students there. "These were students who had not been in trouble a great deal," school district superintendent David Seago said just after classes started. "Maybe some tardies and absences, but that's it." Seago said the Caffeys' daughter enrolled just six weeks ago. Classmates and Emory residents have said she was homeschooled before that. The killings gripped everyone and everything in Emory, from the Sunday morning church services to lunch conversations at small cafes along the two-lane road running through this town of just 1,500. Classmates described the Caffeys' daughter and Wilkinson as inseparable and with few other friends on campus. Many were especially stunned by the arrest of Johnson, widely described as a good student active in theater at the high school. Jennifer McClanahan, a senior at Rains, said that Wilkinson had been scolded during her English class last week for being on the computer. Wilkinson, she said, in turn told the teacher that his girlfriend's father had hacked into his MySpace page. McClanahan and others said Wilkinson was not really a troublemaker, other than constantly being told to remove the cowboy hat he always wore to school. "That's Charlie," said McClanahan, 17. "He would start an argument over something like a hat." Carl Johnson, a friend of the family, said the Caffeys moved about two years ago to just outside Emory. He called them good Christians and said he often told the daughter he wanted her soft singing voice to perform at his funeral. "(The parents) didn't like the boy and were trying to break them up," Johnson said. "They told me at church they didn't have any use for him." The attack occurred on about 20 acres of pine-canopied, remote land in Alba along a narrow gravel road with just two other homes. The area is so secluded that even the closest neighbors reported only faintly hearing what sounded like thunder early Saturday, and few saw the blaze. The Rev. Todd McGahee of Miracle Faith Baptist Church, where the Caffeys worshipped and were the house musicians, wept and struggled to stay composed during his Sunday sermon. "When I first heard, I was like, I don't even think I would have crawled out of the house," McGahee told his congregation. "But God has a purpose for Terry's life. God has a reason. God gave him the strength to get out." On the Caffeys' wooded plot, the family's black Labrador waited in vain by the ashes of the incinerated house and a burned van for his owners to return. "There's been a change in this church and a change in this community," McGahee told about 80 worshippers. "And we can't just wish it away. ... It will be the same loss, the same hurt tomorrow. There's been that change in our lives." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie d Posted March 4, 2008 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 25 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,081 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/29/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/08/1967 Share Posted March 4, 2008 this makes me so sad...Oh Lord come and save us from the enemy who seeks to kill, steal and destroy. what a tragic story it makes me weep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treasure Posted March 4, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 272 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 2,338 Content Per Day: 0.65 Reputation: 11 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/19/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted March 4, 2008 How tragic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treasure Posted March 4, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 272 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 2,338 Content Per Day: 0.65 Reputation: 11 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/19/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted March 4, 2008 The problem is not with guns, the problem is with people. People are messed up. A gun is just an inadamant object with no ability to act on it's own. The fault with these incidents always lies with the person commiting the acts, not a gun. A gun is useless without a person to wield it. Guns don't kill people, people kill people. Blaming the gun for the crime further isolates the person violating the law from having to take responsibility for his or her actions and results in more violence, because a weapon is blamed instead of the the person committing the crime. I guess I'm not the only one who saw past the shock value of the post, to the undertones of it's desired purpose. It is shocking! Why does there have to be some kind of agenda as motive for the thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blien Posted March 4, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 346 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 3,050 Content Per Day: 0.50 Reputation: 46 Days Won: 3 Joined: 10/02/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/26/1982 Author Share Posted March 4, 2008 You know I find that argument to be completely inadequate and irresponsible. I'm sorry if you think that you need to be armed or that the gun is a tool and the person is the problem. But since in your opinion a gun is simply a tool (mind you one which purpose is for destruction) I'll give you this analogy. Suppose I were to use you logic, (based on what you just wrote), I could simply place a bunch of land mines on my yard under the grass (because its a tool). Put up a NO TRESPASSERS sign and then scoff at any one who thinks that my actions had anything to do with any deaths that might result afterwards. A child who trips into my lawn while learning to ride a bike, a dog who tries to pee under my tree.. some young adults playing street football and step into my yard. If the gun wasn't available to these youth, they wouldn't have been so high on their thoughts of power to control people and do something like this. The title of this topic is in response to this previous topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarletprayers Posted March 4, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 135 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7,537 Content Per Day: 1.08 Reputation: 157 Days Won: 2 Joined: 04/06/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/29/1956 Share Posted March 4, 2008 The youngest child was stabbed to death..........................its about evil, if you want someone dead badly enough, you'll find a way. It doesn't have to be a gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie d Posted March 4, 2008 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 25 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,081 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/29/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/08/1967 Share Posted March 4, 2008 The problem is not with guns, the problem is with people. People are messed up. A gun is just an inadamant object with no ability to act on it's own. The fault with these incidents always lies with the person commiting the acts, not a gun. A gun is useless without a person to wield it. Guns don't kill people, people kill people. Blaming the gun for the crime further isolates the person violating the law from having to take responsibility for his or her actions and results in more violence, because a weapon is blamed instead of the the person committing the crime. I guess I'm not the only one who saw past the shock value of the post, to the undertones of it's desired purpose. It is shocking! Why does there have to be some kind of agenda as motive for the thread? AND even if there is an agenda, what does it matter? those people are dead at the hands of children who were given the right to bear arms according to the constitution!! the enemy at work in a really big way...and there are more players involved here than those who killed and those who were killed... I am incredibly shocked and saddened by it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LadyC Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 blien, it IS the fault of those who perpetrated the crimes. guns do not kill, people do. but if you want to talk about what is irresponsible, let's talk about it. let's talk about how our culture is promoting viciousness and murder as though it is entertainment. let's talk about how our culture has parents terrified of taking control of their children, and let's talk about how children are being raised with no respect for weapons, for authority, or for human life. let's talk about this sense of entitlement that people have today. THAT is the root of the problem. guns have NEVER been the root of any problem. if they had been, then this kind of behaviour by kids would have been happening at the same rate throughout history. by the way, i see the shock in some of the responses here.... i've been keeping up with this story for two days, is this the first time some of you are hearing about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LadyC Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 AND even if there is an agenda, what does it matter? those people are dead at the hands of children who were given the right to bear arms according to the constitution!! the enemy at work in a really big way...and there are more players involved here than those who killed and those who were killed... I am incredibly shocked and saddened by it. WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!! the children were not given any rights by anyone or anything to "bear arms". those children didn't have the legal right to have the weapons (and there was a weapon besides a gun remember?). furthermore, the right to bear arms does not give one the right to slaughter innocent people because one is throwing a temper tantrum. please, don't be twisting the constitution to fit your own argument, it lacks conviction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie d Posted March 4, 2008 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 25 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,081 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/29/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/08/1967 Share Posted March 4, 2008 AND even if there is an agenda, what does it matter? those people are dead at the hands of children who were given the right to bear arms according to the constitution!! the enemy at work in a really big way...and there are more players involved here than those who killed and those who were killed... I am incredibly shocked and saddened by it. WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!! the children were not given any rights by anyone or anything to "bear arms". those children didn't have the legal right to have the weapons (and there was a weapon besides a gun remember?). furthermore, the right to bear arms does not give one the right to slaughter innocent people because one is throwing a temper tantrum. please, don't be twisting the constitution to fit your own argument, it lacks conviction. HEY! why are you yelling at me? I read the article those "children" at least two of them are considered legal adults in the United States... and since this is a free country that gives me the right to free speach and a country so set on opinion, I have the right to them...thank you the truth of the matter is that the enemy is the underlying problem here and we can lay blame anywhere we want to...death is the result of sin. No matter if it is by disease or by weapon or old age...death is gonna get us... again. Come Lord come!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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