jeffnevins Posted January 15, 2009 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 207 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 806 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 141 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/09/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/21/1973 Share Posted January 15, 2009 I watched a video on YT (no linking) that attacked Jesus & Christianity with specific verses. I looked them up, but hope that you'll help me w/a few details. Why even watch such videos? I want to be sure I know why I believe. No hiding, even from the worst people have to say- Isaiah 2:4 -no more war (This must be the 2nd coming) It might confuse people in that it doesn't say whether this happens for the first or 2nd coming, but that's the way it is... Isaiah 43:5-9 -gathering all the nations 2nd coming, right? Zech 13:2, 14:9 -banish names of all idols, rule over the earth Dan 7:13, Ezekiel 37:26- Everlasting peace, etc. I think what happened is the guy took prophecy of Christ's return, either was confused since it didn't happen, or (more likely), twisted it knowing it refers to events that place for Christ's return. Well, thanks for reading. Glad I looked them up & did the research to figure it out. In Christ- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bernall Posted January 18, 2009 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 55 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/09/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/26/1969 Share Posted January 18, 2009 I watched a video on YT (no linking) that attacked Jesus & Christianity with specific verses. I looked them up, but hope that you'll help me w/a few details. Why even watch such videos? I want to be sure I know why I believe. No hiding, even from the worst people have to say- Isaiah 2:4 -no more war (This must be the 2nd coming) It might confuse people in that it doesn't say whether this happens for the first or 2nd coming, but that's the way it is... Isaiah 43:5-9 -gathering all the nations 2nd coming, right? Zech 13:2, 14:9 -banish names of all idols, rule over the earth Dan 7:13, Ezekiel 37:26- Everlasting peace, etc. I think what happened is the guy took prophecy of Christ's return, either was confused since it didn't happen, or (more likely), twisted it knowing it refers to events that place for Christ's return. Well, thanks for reading. Glad I looked them up & did the research to figure it out. In Christ- shalom, i'm going to assume, and probably correctly, that the person presenting this video was a Jew, like myself (though i am a believer of Messiah, Yeshua). he's not confused so much as he is 1. blind to what scripture says, as it is written that blindness has come upon Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles comes in, or 2. is being deliberately misleading concerning the application of these scriptures pertaining to Messiah. you are correct in your understanding of these pertaining to the second coming. non-believing Jews say it isn't so because, for many, within the confines of a single verse it jumps from referencing His first coming to His second coming (or what believers think are the 1st and 2nd comings, in their eyes), and this supposedly goes against the context of the prophecy. In Messiah, John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricH Posted January 19, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 366 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 10,933 Content Per Day: 1.57 Reputation: 212 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/21/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted January 19, 2009 Moved from Doctrinal Questions to Eschatology Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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