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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6754820/?GT1=5936 BANDA ACEH, Indonesia - The confirmed death toll from the weekend earthquake and tsunami in south Asia soared sharply to over 117,000 on Thursday as the Indonesian government announced that nearly 80,000 people had died in that country alone. Word of the growing death count came as U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan announced that international aid pledges to the stricken nations had grown to $500 million, a response he called "very good." But workers on the front lines of the crisis reported that efforts to get aid to survivors were foundering in the chaos that gripped many of the hardest hit areas. The World Health Organization said Thursday that up to 5 million people in the region lack access to basic supplies they need to stay alive, such as clean water, shelter, food and health care. Sumatra casualties inflate toll The increase in Indonesia’s death toll to 79,940 — an increase of 27,940 from its previous tally — was due to new bodies being discovered on the coast of Sumatra, which was closest to the epicenter of Sunday's quake, according to Health Ministry official Kardino, who like many Indonesians uses one name. Sri Lanka also added thousands to its official toll, which now stands at 27,268, and said that nearly 5,000 people are missing and nearly 1 million homeless.

What we have seen here with over 50,000 dead and rising completely bogels the mind and we need to be praying for these people but is this a Judgement from God or a reminder of God's Judgement. Curious to get your opinions?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6754820/ BANDA ACEH, Indonesia - As the death toll from the epic tsunamis that slammed 11 countries soared beyond 52,000 people on Tuesday, a top World Health Organization health expert warned that diseases could double the natural disaster’s death count before the situation can be stabilized. The number of dead continued to climb rapidly as authorities in Indonesia added 8,000 fatalities to the death toll there, bringing the total number killed to more than 27,000. India, Sri Lanka and Thailand also added to their death counts as they re-established contact with remote islands and isolated coastal areas and confirmed their worst fears. The overall figure was expected to continue to climb as emergency workers make their way into inundated and still isolated villages and towns. Medical supplies, food and water purification systems poured into the region, part of what the United Nations said would be the biggest relief effort the world has ever seen to aid the millions left homeless by the oceanic torrent that battered the countries after a magnitude 9.0 earthquake Sunday off Sumatra. Disease fears rising Bodies, many of them children, still filled beaches and choked hospital morgues, raising fears of disease. Dr. David Nabarro, speaking at a news conference in Geneva, said that the aftermath could prove every bit as deadly as the initial onslaught of the tsunamis. “There is certainly a chance that we could have as many dying from communicable diseases as from the tsunami,” he said. He said local hospitals and health services were overwhelmed treating victims of the tsunami and thus less able to cope with people who may fall ill. "The initial terror associated with the tsunamis and the earthquake itself may be dwarfed by the longer term suffering of the affected communities," Nabarro warned. Robert Bazell, NBC's chief science correspondent, said the health risk for survivors is twofold. "There is a shortage of clean water and an enormous amount of water left behind. That’s a recipe for disaster from diseases such as cholera and typhoid, which are spread by fecal material that gets into the water," he said. "Also, millions are homeless in a very wet situation; that’s a huge potential for the spread of respiratory diseases and other lesser-known diseases which can kill people, especially children." In addition to the enormous human toll, the disaster could be the costliest in history, said U.N. Undersecretary Jan Egeland, who is in charge of emergency relief coordination. Hundreds of thousands have lost everything, and millions are living with polluted drinking water and no health services, he said. Geographic scope of crisis unparalleled The geographic scope of the disaster was unparalleled. Relief organizations used to dealing with a centralized crisis had to distribute resources over 11 countries in two continents. Helicopters in India rushed medicine to stricken areas, while warships in Thailand steamed to island resorts. In Sri Lanka, the Health Ministry dispatched 300 physicians to the disaster zone, dropping them off by helicopter. Sri Lankan Foreign Minister Lakshman Kadirgamar said the United States was sending helicopters, and an airborne surgical hospital from Finland arrived. A German aircraft was en route with a water purification plant. “A great deal is coming in, and they are having a few problems at the moment coordinating it.” UNICEF officials said that about 175 tons of rice arrived in Banda Aceh, Indonesia, late Monday and six tons of medical supplies were expected to arrive by Thursday. But most basic supplies were scarce. Meantime, U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell said Tuesday the United States “will do more” to help the victims and said in an interview on NBC's “Today” show that “clearly, the United States will be a major contributor to this international effort. And, yes, it will run into the billions of dollars.” He also said he regretted a statement by Egeland, the U.N. official overseeing the relief effort, suggesting America was being "stingy". Initially, the U.S. government pledged $15 million and dispatched disaster specialists to help the Asian nations devastated by the catastrophe. As the relief effort gained momentum, emergency workers reaching areas isolated since the waves hit were seeing their worst nightmares realized. 10,000 killed in single town Indonesian teams found that 10,000 people had been killed in a single town, Meulaboh, in Aceh province at the northern tip of Sumatra island, said Purnomo Sidik, national disaster director at the Social Affairs Ministry. Another 9,000 were confirmed dead so far in the provincial capital, Banda Aceh, and surrounding towns, he said. In Sri Lanka, authorities said that approximately 1,000 people were killed or missing from a train that was flung off its tracks when the gigantic waves hit. And in India, rescuers on Tuesday estimated that at least 7,000 people had been killed on the remote Andaman and Nicobar islands, with one town losing two-thirds of its population to the rampaging waters. Sri Lanka's government raised its death toll past 18,700 and feared the final death toll would reach 25,000. "Dead bodies are washing ashore along the coast," said Social Welfare Minister Sumedha Jayasena, who is coordinating relief efforts. "Reports reaching us from the rescue workers indicate there are 25,000 feared dead, and we don't know what to do." In Thailand, which had previously reported 1,516 dead, including more than 700 tourists, rescue workers recovered more than 300 bodies on Thailand’s remote Phi Phi Island, a tourist getaway made famous by the Leonardo DiCaprio film "The Beach."

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...4dec23Secretary of State Colin L. Powell told President Bush (news - web sites) and British Prime Minister Tony Blair (news - web sites) last month that there were too few troops in Iraq (news - web sites), according to people familiar with official records of the meeting. Powell made his assertion during one in a series of intense discussions on Iraq between Bush and Blair this fall. Those sessions, which have largely been kept secret, indicate that there was a tough debate behind closed doors as the Bush administration reexamined its handling of Iraq in the wake of Bush's reelection victory. Less than three weeks after the White House meeting, the Pentagon (news - web sites) announced that it would boost the U.S. military presence in Iraq by 12,000 troops, to 150,000. The discussions between the two leaders have gone on in recent months in a series of videoconferences that have been considered so sensitive that the transcripts of the meetings are destroyed after other senior officials read them. The disclosure of the sessions indicates that, privately, there has been more concern at the top levels of the Bush administration about the conduct of the U.S. mission there than officials have shown publicly. It also shows Powell taking an unusual role for a secretary of state, advising the president on a military issue. Powell made his remarks on Nov. 12, just 10 days after the end of a presidential campaign in which Bush's handling of the war in Iraq and his decision to limit troop levels there had been a major issue. Powell announced his intention to resign his post three days later but submitted his letter of resignation on the day of the Blair meeting. Accounts differ about the details of Powell's remarks. One U.S. official said that Powell flatly stated: "We don't have enough troops. We don't control the terrain." But a senior State Department official familiar with the exchange said that Powell was less pointed, raising the issue in the context of continuing conversations that focused on the turmoil in the Sunni Triangle, the Iraqi elections scheduled for next month, and the shape and size of the U.S.-led military presence in the country. This official said Powell spoke about the size not only of the U.S. presence but also of the British and Iraqi forces. "They were talking about the security situation," said the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of ongoing diplomacy. "They asked Powell his opinion." The secretary of state, who is a former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, responded by invoking his background as an infantry officer. He said the key task in warfare is to dominate the ground and control the situation. Overall, Powell concluded, according to this official, the number of troops -- U.S., coalition and Iraqi -- was insufficient to ensure such control. The conversation, which took place on the fifth day of a major U.S. offensive to retake Fallujah, then turned to the issue of Iraqi security forces and the troubles that have been encountered in developing local forces that have confidence and leadership. "They looked especially at the training and how they could expand the Iraqi forces -- and that the situation would be difficult until they could do that," the State Department official said. "The emphasis was on getting Iraqi forces." Both officials who discussed the meeting noted that the president a few weeks later decided to increase the number of U.S. troops in Iraq in an effort to improve security before the Iraqi elections, scheduled for the end of January. It is not clear how much Powell's comments influenced that decision. Nor is it clear whether the boost in troop strength by 12,000 has fully addressed Powell's concerns. In a White House news conference and in other public appearances that day, top officials gave no hint that they had discussed whether troop levels in Iraq were adequate. In their public comments on Nov. 12, neither Bush nor Blair alluded to the troop levels in Iraq. At a joint news conference, Bush warned that, as the Iraqi elections draw near, "the desperation of the killers will grow, and the violence could escalate." Blair said: "We have to complete our mission in Iraq, make sure that Iraq is a stable and democratic country." Most of the news conference focused not on Iraq but on efforts to resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. The session is also revealing of Powell's peculiar role in the administration, as a longtime Washington insider who has achieved outsider status on the issue of Iraq. His qualms about going to war there have long been known, but his concerns about the conduct of the occupation are only beginning to emerge. Powell's comments are just the latest revelation in a long-running debate over troop levels in Iraq, which have been controversial since before the beginning of the war in March 2003. During the run-up to the war, Gen. Eric K. Shinseki, then the Army chief of staff, told a congressional committee that he was concerned that the planned occupation force was too small. Powell himself had also privately expressed concern about troop levels. In September 2002, according to Army Gen. Tommy R. Franks, one of the chief architects of the plan, Powell called Franks to say, "I've got problems with force size and support of that force, given such long lines of communication." Franks relates the call in his memoir, "American Soldier." But the concerns Powell raised at the White House meeting had to do not with the war plan but with the composition of the current occupation force. They echoed the worries raised in the fall by L. Paul Bremer, administrator of the U.S.-led occupation government until the handover of political power on June 28. "The single most important change -- the one thing that would have improved the situation -- would have been having more troops in Iraq at the beginning and throughout" the occupation, Bremer said in September, according to the Banner-Graphic in Greencastle, Ind. A spokesman for the British Embassy declined to comment.

My grandfather is in the hospital he is 80 and had a temp. of 102 and has pnemunioa and also had an infection in his lungs. Ive been wanting to witness to him for awhile and today I did. I went through the scriptures and showed him the way to eternal life, he then with big tears asked Christ to forgive him and to come into his heart. This was the best gift i could have had!

well world net daily is a pretty reliable source.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml.../ixnewstop.html I will bring peace to Middle East, Bush promises By Inigo Gilmore in Jerusalem and Alec Russell in Washington (Filed: 20/12/2004) President George W Bush yesterday predicted that he would bring peace between Israel and the Palestinians during his second term in office, making a strikingly bold assessment of his foreign-policy goals for the next four years. "I want you to know that I am going to invest a lot of time and a lot of creative thinking so that there will finally be peace between Israel and the Palestinians," Mr Bush told the Israeli newspaper Yedioth Aharonoth. "I am convinced that, during this term, I will manage to bring peace." Mr Bush entered the White House determined not to follow the path of his predecessor, Bill Clinton, who devoted much of his presidency to an ultimately fruitless search for an end to the conflict. But as he prepares for the start of his second term next month, Mr Bush sees the elusive quest as a principal ambition of his presidency. Washington regards the Palestinian elections on Jan 9 as a crucial first step to consolidate the leadership of Mahmoud Abbas, a moderate with whom Washington believes it can work, following the death last month of Yasser Arafat. At the same time, the Israeli prime minister, Ariel Sharon, is forcing through his plan to withdraw soldiers and settlers from the Gaza Strip next summer. "Next year is very important, as it will bring peace," said Mr Bush. "Sharon understood this. It is very important that the Palestinians also understand that peace is not something that is arrived at through words, but through deeds." The White House had previously shunned the Palestinian leadership because it regarded Mr Arafat as a terrorist. But Mr Bush endorsed his successor, saying: "I have a basis for believing the new Palestinian leadership … is also working in the right direction." However, according to Yedioth, he shrugged off peace overtures by President Bashar Assad of Syria, saying he would have to wait for the Palestinian track to be completed. It quoted him as saying: "Syria is a very weak country, and therefore it cannot be trusted. For now, Assad should wait; first peace between Israel and Palestine, and then we will see what should be done with Syria." In an interview with Time magazine, which yesterday named him its "Person of the Year", Mr Bush was more cautious about his chances in the Middle East, saying "we've got a shot" for peace. Nevertheless, his comments appear to reflect optimism that the Israeli-Palestinian conflict may be turning a corner. If next month's elections in Iraq pass off reasonably well, the Bush administration believes it could begin to democratise the Middle East. "One of the great ironies of life will be that a Palestinian state and Iraq became the catalyst for change in a part of the world that needs change. At least that's our foreign policy, it needs to change," Mr Bush said. His remarks were published ahead of tomorrow's visit to Israel and the West Bank by Tony Blair, who has urged Mr Bush take a more "hands on" role in pushing the two sides towards ending violence and renewing the peace process. The Prime Minister is planning to hold a conference in London in February to strengthen the new Palestinian leadership, encourage reforms and prepare the Palestinians to take over the Gaza Strip after Israel's withdrawal. Israel said it supported the initiative, but would not participate. Mr Sharon's centre-Right coalition has collapsed, largely because of a revolt over the withdrawal plan, but the prime minister appeared close yesterday to finalising a deal for a unity government with the opposition Labour party. Shimon Peres, the Labour leader and Israel's best known dove, will be appointed as a second deputy prime minister and Labour will receive eight ministerial posts in all. Mr Sharon yesterday made a gesture of goodwill to the new Palestinian leadership by authorising the release within days of 170 prisoners - 120 Fatah activists and 50 Palestinians arrested in Israel without legal entry permits. The Palestinians, called it a publicity stunt, saying many of those being released had nearly completed their sentences. Time said it had given Mr Bush its award for the second time for "reshaping the rules of politics to fit his 10-gallon-hat leadership style", a reference to his forthright approach and image as a Texan cowboy. Mr Bush told the magazine that he "didn't expect short-term historians to write nice things about him" but made clear he had no intention of moderating his style. "I think sometimes I take kind of a delight in who the

read the book of john it's the 4th book in the new testament and then Romans

made ya look ha ha he he see i do have a sense of humor

i was not aware of any conspiracy theory rule so if it falls under that category then it should be pulled. I guess the remark i made was because i thought they would pull it and i try to have a sense of humor.

Super Jew have you done any searching on skull and bones? curious of your thoughts if you have?

want to explain the baiting thing. Instead of making a comment why not explain your self? I say it in love brother I dont care to bash!

like i said im surprised the post has lasted this long without being pulled.

not a conspiracy theory these are facts he is in support of those that would tear down the cross. Just a question you would tear down a cross? Not me buddy. by the cross by the cross where I first saw the light and the burden of my heart rolled away it was there by faith i received my sight and now i am happy all the day. Simply to the cross Ill cling!

im surprised my post didnt get the plug yet? It seems in here if you normaly say anything negative about the President you get bashed or pulled. But he is turning his back on those that helped get him elected. He appointed some one in his cabinet who is for abortion and I believe he will pay lip service to the christians in this nation!

I found santa there but no Jesus

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http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/12/172004d.asp AgapePress) - Three thousand students at a public high school in Cincinnati, Ohio, have learned that one of their classmates is definitely not ashamed of the gospel of Jesus Christ. The 18-year old was suspended after he passed out letters containing an evangelical message to fellow students at his school. Eric Bast recently served a five-day suspension from Oak Hills High School for passing out 3,000 personalized letters to schoolmates. The letters explained how an individual can have a personal relationship with Christ and avoid spending eternity in hell. Obtaining a list of students for every home room in his school, Bast enlisted 30 volunteers to help him put his letters in manila envelopes, and then delivered them to each home room. "I had this idea about six months ago," he says, "to write a letter to every person at my high school, explaining who Jesus Christ is and what our sins have done to separate us from God." The Christian student sought to help his schoolmates understand their need for redemption from their sins. Through the letters, he says he tried to explain "how Jesus can save us from those sins and forgive us, and pretty much just give everyone the opportunity to commit their lives to Christ." According to Principal David Vannasdall, Bast was punished because he disrupted the learning environment and because he failed to get administrative approval for the letter distribution. But the 18-year-old says his "disruption" has resulted in a positive impact at his school among non-Christian students, and on fellow Christians as well. The senior says his letter made a real impression on several of his unbelieving schoolmates, whose reaction was to realize "Man, this guy put this much time into it: it's got to be at least real to him -- really, really real. So maybe I should look into this a little more." Since passing out the letter, Bast says several of these students, and many others who have been nominal or less than serious about their faith, have been talking to him and telling him that his words really made them consider their spiritual convictions. "People that were going to church for a long time, but never really paid attention -- it made them think," the young campus evangelist says. At the same time, he adds, "People all over the school that are Christian said, 'Wow, I realize that I'm totally not living for God, because I don't tell any of my friends, let alone every person.'" Now that his five-day suspension is behind him, Bast intends to follow up his evangelical letter campaign with witnessing. He says the letter distribution effort has already led to numerous opportunities to share his faith with students who are seeking to know more about Jesus.

Lets see these people can tell others to go kill christians but a group of people in Philadelphia Cant Street preach and hand out tracks and when they do they are arrested.

http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/9/142004e.asp (AgapePress) - A Christian faith and family research center is calling for action against the operators of a website that advocates an orchestrated campaign of arson and violence against churches and religious people. The Howard Center for Family, Religion, and Society is outraged over the "ChurchArson.com" website, which describes Christianity and Judaism as "forms of mind control" and calls for enemies of religious faith to burn down houses of worship. The site's author also advocates the killing of true believers, saying he looks forward to the day when "the executions of die-hard Christians and Jews will commence." Larry Jacobs, the Howard Center's vice president, says the religion-bashing Internet site is a sad commentary on the state of America and the way that people of faith are depicted by the anti-religious cultural elite. "There's been a number of movies that have depicted Christians as fools, hypocrites or villains," he says, not to mention "the news media telling us that evangelicals are fanatics." With so much religion-bashing going on in the mainstream press and popular culture, Jacobs says, "It's not any wonder that there are some unstable people who would listen to all this media and go to the extreme of committing violence against Christians." To the family research analyst, it is a clear indication that the "hardcore of militant atheists is getting desperate" because the anti-religion left is losing the public policy debate. And although some might argue that such inflammatory rhetoric as can be found at ChurchArson.com is protected under the First Amendment, Jacobs says this is not a free-speech issue. He disagrees strongly with those who compare what the anti-religion website does to nonviolent political or social protest, as he says a number of liberal groups have tried to do. But in the case of the irreligious vandalism- and violence-promoting website, the Howard Center spokesman points out that there is a fundamental difference. "If you conduct a peaceful protest," he says, "even if there's a number of people involved, that shouldn't be a criminal activity. But when you advocate killing people, it crosses the line." Jacobs believes the ChurchArson.com website is based in Virginia and says the state's attorney general has been asked to investigate. Meanwhile, the pro-family leader asserts that religious America will not be intimidated and will continue to call for a return to "those values and virtues" that made the U.S. a great nation.

Wal-Mart's Salvation Army save http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article....RTICLE_ID=41982 If Target wishes to be the Grinch this Christmas, then how would we classify Wal-Mart? Breaking news late Thursday: Wal-Mart announced that it will nationally match dollar for dollar the proceeds of all Salvation Army red kettles beginning Thursday through Christmas Eve. Wal-Mart has allocated the Salvation Army the greatest number of kettle locations nationally for the last number of years. Target was formerly No. 2 on that list. This year, Target prefers to be a big zero when it comes to public relations. They evidenced this by their change in policy to no longer allow the Salvation Army to collect at their locations. We have led the charge to raise awareness of this in the New York area by pounding Target daily for the past month. Target has turned stiffly away from any calls to allow the bell-ringers of good will to return to the red bull's-eye's doorsteps. But the cry for help has not gone unnoticed. On Wednesday, the tiny little GLY bookshop in Glen Cove, Long Island, N.Y., decided to have its own drive to help the Salvation Army. The shop which is more famously known for being able to find any rare book that is asked for, entertained bell-ringers with snacks while community residents came with donations to the kettles set up at both entrances. At the end of the day, the tiny little shop added its own $1,000 donation. And while mom-and-pop shops have sprouted up all across the nation to try to help, the need stilled loomed larger than ever. Last year, the Salvation Army collected roughly $9 million nationally from Target store kettles. Still, spirits at Salvation Army offices – particularly in the hard hit Northeastern part of the United States – were high on Thursday. Maj. Charles Kelly, the Newark area services coordinator, broke the news on the "Kevin McCullough Show" (first in the nation): "Kevin I am excited to be able to tell you about this first – Wal-Mart has truly stepped up to the plate," his voice nearly quivering with excitement as he relayed the message to my audience. "They will match all funds donated to Salvation Army Red Kettles for the next nine days – up to 1 million dollars." National Commander of the Salvation Army W. Todd Bassett put it this way: At a time when it was needed most, Wal-Mart has extended its hand to support the 104-year-old tradition that benefits many thousands of people in communities throughout the United States. Every dollar put into our Red Kettles is used locally, and Wal-Mart's generosity by matching those dollars will extend our local services to many more needy individuals requiring our assistance far beyond the holiday season. The Salvation Army has kettles at better than 3,600 local Wal-Mart associated retailers. "The Red Kettles are an enduring symbol of the holiday season and represent people helping people," said Betsy Reithmeyer, vice president of corporate affairs for Wal-Mart Stores Inc. "We hope our customers join us in donating what they can to benefit an organization that does so much in our communities to serve families in need. The Salvation Army red kettles and the bell ringers are truly a holiday tradition worth keeping." So while Target has done all it can to become the Grinch that hates Christmas this year, Wal-Mart has made a bold move to do otherwise. In the days left between now and Christmas Eve, it becomes imperative that Americans at large do their part to assist the Salvation Army in its plight. In order for your red-kettle donation to count toward Wal-Mart's million-dollar match, it needs to be given to a red kettle outside a Wal-Mart, Sam's Club, SuperCenters, or Neighborhood Markets. But take a challenge from me and try to give – every single time you spot a red kettle. Target has chosen unwisely to allow itself to be morphed into the Grinch this holiday season. Wal-Mart is taking a bold – and, I believe, advantageous – move by filling in one or two gaps that Target may have left behind. The real impact of both companies may not play out for some time yet. Over time, you get a feel for people you trust, like and appreciate – and those you don't. The score has changed considerably, in my thinking, on the part of both companies. I just pray that Wal-Mart's "save" comes with enough time on the clock for people like you and I to make it count.

doing great thank you my wife and I celebrated our 4th year yesterday! Defending the old Book Amen!

Hey salt and light good to see you brother how are you?

#5 in the year 1851, Dr. Hort founded a society for the investigation and classification of ghosts and psychical phenomena in general. Westcott wrote in his Ghostly Circular: " The interest and importance of a serious and earnest inquiry into the nature of the phenomena which are vaguely called "supernatural" will scarcely be questioned. Many persons believe that all such apparently mysterious occurrences are due either to purely natural causes, or to delusions of the mind or senses, or to wilful deception. But there are many others who believe it possible that the beings of the unseen world may manifest themsevles to us in extraordinary ways, and also are unable otherwise to explain many facts the evidence for which cannot be impeached." #6 from Hort to Westcott that:"I can never look back on my Cambridge life with sufficient thankfulness. Above all, those hours which were spent over Plato and Aristotle have wrought that in me shich I pray may never be done away." Well that's enough alarms for me and thats the tip of the ice burg on those two so Bro. Purple thats one question down ill get back to some more Lord willing tonight