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  1. “Look, I see the heavens opened and the Son of Man standing in the place of honor at God’s right hand!” Then they put their hands over their ears and began shouting. They rushed at him and dragged him out of the city and began to stone him. (Acts 7:56-58 NLT)

    You and I, on the broadest basis of the Christian life, are here... to represent a check; and because we are here for that, we shall be called "trouble makers." In a very real sense we shall be trouble makers. The trouble will focus itself upon us, and we shall have to suffer for it. The very fact that you are jealous for the Lord will bring you into conflict with that trend that there is in this world, in man.... When there is the purest testimony, the fullest expression of what is of God, the heavenly over against the earthly, the spiritual over against the carnal or the natural, the enemy gives a turn to things, a twist to things, and lays the responsibility at the door of a spiritual and a heavenly ministry. He says: "You are the cause of all the trouble – you are the troubler!" But no. The trouble lies deeper than that, and in another realm. The truth is, there is something here that, in its very nature, must create trouble, must be a source of trouble, so long as God's known will, His revealed mind, is being violated; while the full expression of God's purpose is being withstood. To bring in something that stands for that, there is going to be trouble. It is a costly thing to have seen God's full purpose and thought concerning His people. It is always a costly thing. The Lord Jesus set a very vivid example and object lesson of this truth right in the foreground, in the incident of the man born blind (John 9). There is no doubt that the Lord intended that man to represent Israel and Israel's condition at the time. He gave that man sight – and what happened to the man? "They cast him out," that is all; they cast him out, they excommunicated him (v. 34). That is an object lesson, an instance of this very thing.

    If eyes have been opened; if, in any sense – not officially – you have become a 'seer' – one who sees: it is going to cost you a lot, it will involve you in a lot of trouble. This matter of 'seeing' does that. It was Elijah the Seer, over against the blindness of Israel. It is a costly thing to be a spiritual man or a spiritual woman in this universe. It is a costly thing, yes, very costly, to hold to a heavenly and spiritual position. It is a costly thing to hold for Christ's full place; it involves you in trouble. It is a costly thing to have light – if it is true light, God-given light. It is a costly thing to have Life. But remember, it is here, in this, that the power is resident.


    By T. Austin-Sparks from: Jealousy for God 
  2. This morning in all the 'born again' churches in America folks gathered together and took turns sharing their gifts and functions, everything decently and in order..new testament style, Praise be to God, Jesus back in charge.....aaaa.....well.....not so much!

    Why is that?

  3. I looked up the hebrew for destroy and destruction and came up with annihilation.

    'its a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God' speaks of the horror of judgement, but to torture someone forever seems strange. An individuals sins of a short life time doesn't compare  well with all of mankind's sins Jesus suffered a few hours for. 

    The pilot that was burnd alive in a cage took a few moments to bring death. We were all horrified.

    But God is going to extend that burning for all eternity, no letting up and He is not horrified?

    So if we are horrified about torture, does that make us unholy? Should we be just fine knowing grandma is screaming in flames of fire?

    Jude 1:7 Sodom and Gomorrah......suffered the punishment of ETERNAL FIRE. 

    Those cities suffered the results of fire and brimstone.....destroyed eternally. The fires are not still burning but the cities are still gone.....forever. Im sure their smoke is still rising as a testimony.

    In Christ only is eternal life. Those that have not Christ, have not eternal life.

  4. Giving thanks continually after all the praying is in. Even if your world is turnd upside down. In everything give thanks for this is God's will concerning you. And thank Him for His promises to deliver. All His promises are yes and certain. 

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  5. When i first got saved i called up these 'church of christ' guys that had a tv show. I debated them. I asked this guy the question 'are you sure you are saved? How do you know?' He answered ' i've done it all, thats how i know'.

    I said ' thats the problem. You've done it all '. End of conversation. 

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  6. Im teaching what Jesus taught. No envy in that but rather freedom. Freedom from religion. Set the captives free. For freedom He set us free. Gal. 5:1 

    Besides. There is no way i could be envious of maggots. I pulled the lid on our garbage can a few times and found hundreds of maggots wiggling away. Made me sick to my stomach. Now about the titled high seat sitters.....need i expound. 

    Jesus words need to be taken seriously. He is Whom we have to do. Hebrews 4:13 

    Please re-consider. God bless. 

     

  7. In Matt. 23:6 it tells us that certain ones love the chief seat in the synagogue. Who is it talking about?

    In verse 9 it say to call no man faheror pater which means ' an honorific title'. What would be an example of a title of honor?

    And in verse 12 it says why these things are not allowed. Pride/arrogance/ego.

    'And whoever exalts himself will be humbled'. 

    Upper seat with a religious title of honor. What's Jesus tslking about here?

    It gets worse. The hebrew word for self exaltation is ramam, or full of magots. 

    Am i missing something here? 

  8. On 8/17/2018 at 6:31 PM, RRep said:

    Abraham gave a free will offering of 10% and that Guy was wealthy beyond measure. He should have given all the spoils to the Priest. That act of giving all may have started Catholicism right then. 

    Someone said that preachers cant depend on God for a miracle yet the widow woman who had nothing is suppose to. How does that work? 

  9. 5 minutes ago, walla299 said:

    That's going to happen any time you're challenging someone's beliefs, whether you or they are correct or not. A thick skin is needed assuming that the beliefs being shared are correct. There's non-salvific things I don't bother arguing about because they've been disputing from the beginning and we'll only get the real answers in glory.

    You are right as rain. I don't deal with the little things, only a big one. First century ecclesia that turned their world upside down in contrast to todays 'church' that has been turned upside down by the world. 

  10. 42 minutes ago, Davida said:

    Christians are to submit to the GOD ordained authorities that HE put over them as the Bible teaches. Those who don't submit to God's given authority, do not like the authority of Pastors.  It's too overbearing for some to have to listen to a man who has been appointed by God & who has studied to be approved to teach in season and out. 

    Overseers/elders are not to lord it over His heritage. Folks are to submit to their teachings, be persuaded by them. We are to submit one to another as as far as the Holy Spirit dwells in each of us. 

    Elders are not our lords and masters. God is our Lord and Master. 

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  11. 17 minutes ago, RockyMidnight said:

    Hello Michael37! Do you all speak Greek as well? Maybe you could give us more detail about how your Church actually operates. Those one liners simply leaves too much to conjecture, as the reactions here prove!

    Care to share more please?

    Cheers!!! :)

    I'll answer it. See: 1Cor. 12 and 14, Ephesians 4, and Romans 12. Elders teach the newbies unto maturity then cut them loose to use their own gifts and functions. Rather than just warming a pew for the rest of their lives. Thats all we're saying. Its a body with many parts with many gifts all used to edify the whole. 

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  12. 22 minutes ago, Gary Lee said:

    1 Peter 5:2 Be shepherds of God's flock that is under your care, watching over them--not because you must, but because you are willing, as God wants you to be; not pursuing dishonest gain, but eager to serve;
    Acts 20:28 Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers.
    Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood.

    Jeremiah 3:15 "Then I will give you shepherds after My own heart, who will feed you on knowledge and understanding.
     

    How do you like them apples, from God!

    Whats goong on hear is a misunderstanding. Teaching is part of this deal. But so is an every member participation meeting. No one is saying there is no place for teaching.

  13. 25 minutes ago, Davida said:

    Wow , that is so wrong from what I read in the Bible. The NT is full of preaching as I read it. 

    2Tim 2:4: 
    "1 I charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of His appearing and His kingdom: 2
    Preach the word; be prepared in season and out of season; reproverebuke, and encourage with every form of patient instruction

    3 For the time will come when men will not tolerate sound doctrine, but with itching ears they will gather around themselves teachers to suit their own desires.…"

    Give us one example of a monologue sermon. 

  14. 44 minutes ago, Estrella said:

    This is unheard of...atleast not in non-western churches.. no sermons/preaching? How do one learn the Word of God then? Even if u study them on your own, how do you make sure your understanding is correct? Some passages are hard to understand.

    Monologue and dialogue. Apples and oranges. Paul taught in the context of a dialogue. Folks could ask questions, debate. Like the modern sunday school. Thats closer to the mark.

    Monologue sermons were derived from the Grecians who spewed their philosophical rhetoric. Athens was noted for this.

     

  15. 26 minutes ago, walla299 said:

    Hmm . . . interesting question that also seems to have a certain unfortunate attitude behind it. Others have already answered.

    I'll add that if someone is going to bring up a problem, whether its with the church in the western world or something else, they really should bring some suggestions as to how to fix it too. Its just more church bashing otherwise.

    I use the word of God to correct. I get accused of bashing when i do. 

    Also the 'how do you like them apples' line seems like a smart alek.....but its possible this person has had enough of everyone bashing anyone that actually uses  scripture to describe what the NT assembly looked like. Im just saying. God bless. Lets keep it civil. Smile.

     

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