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We Disagree, and the OP opposes your view in a literal temple destruction in 70AD being seen as fulfillment, as John's account clearly defines the temple as being "Symbolic" This is the major reason the OP was posted, to give readers the opportunity to view both sides of the coin without censorship, regarding preterism's claims of Matthew 24:2 In Love, Jesus Is The Lord

The original OP isnt dead However the claim the church isnt seen in Isaiah 26:20-21 is dead I posted "We Disagree" in a jesture the horse was dead, I wasn't going to respond to the specific claim further

It's your opinion that the 70AD temple destruction fulfilled Matthew 24:2,and my opinion posted shows otherwise We Disagree Jesus Is The Lord

It's your opinion that I make Jesus utter "Untruth" and that opinion is false My claim was Jesus used the words "Destroy This Temple" as the pharisees responded referencing a "Literal" temple 46 years in building, as John stated a "Symbolic" interpretation of this temple in the Lords body Quote Truth7t7: John's account shows Jesus Christ stating "Destroy This Temple" The Pharisees referenced a "Literal" Temple in Jerusalem 46 years in building John clealry states Jesus wasn't speaking of a "Literal" temple in Jerusalem, but a "Symbolic" temple in his body, its that simple and very easy to understand

You wander away from the topic of my claims in the opinion, I have no desire to head down this road regarding your claims of the church isnt found in the old testament, I have responded to this claim "Several Times" The Church is revealed in Isaiah 26:19-21 as previously explained several times "Come My People" The Church on earth during the future resurrection to take place

I Disagree, The Church is revealed in Isaiah 26:19-21 as previously explained several times "Come My People" The Church on earth during the future resurrection to take place

Isaiah prophesied about a future land called Judah, and a city describing a building as salvation, where only the righteous saved keeping the truth may enter This represents "The New Jerusalem" seen in Revelation 21:24-26 below in a parallel teaching, the eternal city to be seen "After" the Lords return and resurrection seen in Isaiah 26:19:21 as previously presented "In That Day" represents "The Day Of The Lord" Isaiah 26:1-2KJV 1 In that day shall this song be sung in the land of Judah; We have a strong city; salvation will God appoint for walls and bulwarks. 2 Open ye the gates, that the righteous nation which keepeth the truth may enter in. Revelation 21:24-26KJV 24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. 25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there. 26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.

The reader will notice that your objection and claim was directly answered, Isaiah prophesied "about" and "to" the "Future" Church on earth Isaiah 26:20-21 shows directly how the church on earth will be kept "from the hour of temptation", it's "Self Explanitory" and Revelation 3:10 doesn't represent a pre-trib rapture of the church to heaven as you suggest "Come My People" In Love, Jesus Is The Lord Quote AdHoc: Isaiah did not prophesy about the Church. It was not yet revealed to him (Eph.3:9, Col.1:26). Revelation 3:10 contradicts your theory. It says the Lord will "keep them from the HOUR". That is, they won't be there AT THE TIME of tribulation. Response Truth7t7: Isaiah was prophesying to those that would be present on earth at the time of the "Future" resurrection, this takes place close to the Lords indignation and hour of temptation, at the Lords return "Future" "Come My People" = Church On Earth Isaiah 26:19-21KJV 19 Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead. 20 Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast. 21 For, behold, the Lord cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain. Revelation 3:10KJV 10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

Yes the battle of Armageddon and Gog/Magog are exactly the same battle in parallel teachings It's not going to be just Russia, but the whole world will be drawn to Israel by Devils at the close of the tribulation Jesus Christ will return in fire and final judgement, dissolving this earth by fire All men's works will be judged by this last day fire, the righteous will pass through this to the eternal kingdom in the new heaven and earth, the wicked is caught in it for eternity (Lake Of Fire) 1 Corinthians 3:13KJV 13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. 2 peter 3:10KJV 10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

You live in America I live in the people's republic of California Good to see New Jersey removed all mask mandates for schools, a start

Gods words clearly teach in Revelation chapter 11, that shortly after the two witnesses are raised the 7th Trump takes place, yes this is the time of Final judgement (The End) as seen in verse 18 below Revelation 11:15-18KJV 15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. 16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, 17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. 18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

Wikipedia: John Nelson Darby (18 November 1800 – 29 April 1882) was an Anglo-Irish Bible teacher, one of the influential figures among the original Plymouth Brethren and the founder of the Exclusive Brethren. He is considered to be the father of modern Dispensationalism and Futurism. Pre-tribulation rapture theology was popularized extensively in the 1830s by John Nelson Darby and the Plymouth Brethren,[1] and further popularized in the United States in the early 20th century by the wide circulation of the Scofield Reference Bible

I Disagree The battle of armageddon seen in Revelation 16 and the battle of Gog/Magog seen in Revelation 20 are the same exact battle and event,that will see the (End) Revelation 20:1-6 isnt a literal Millennial Kingdom on this earth, and the book of Revelation is taught in "Parallel" teachings in same events, not chronologically as many believe and teach When the 7th vial is poured out at the time of Armageddon (It Is Done) The End, There won't be a Millennial Kingdom on this earth following the words (It Is Done) Revelation 16:16-17KJzv 16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon. 17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

Hey Rick, noticed your in Florida, you do any of that great ocean or fresh water fishing in the Sun State? I'm looking at things in Florida for a possible move, I like the way DeSantis is running the ship, and enjoy fishing and hunting

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John's account shows Jesus Christ stating "Destroy This Temple" The Pharisees referenced a "Literal" Temple in Jerusalem 46 years in building John clealry states Jesus wasn't speaking of a "Literal" temple in Jerusalem, but a "Symbolic" temple in his body, its that simple and very easy to understand Yes John's account interprets and answers Matthew 24:2, Mark 13:2 ,We Disagree In Love, Jesus Is The Lord

If you assume I have pink hair, and my hair is brown, your assumption is wrong Pretty simple! Jesus Is The Lord

A lengthy response in critique, but no rebuttal to the claim the 70AD destruction of the temple wasn't fulfillment of Matthew 24:2? How do you explain John's account of the temple visit as being a "Symbolic" destruction and not literal, clearly explained by John?

Quote Truth7t7 Corrected For Clarification: "His Interest In" When Jesus Christ died, the veil in the temple was torn, God vacated "His Interest In" the temple, its was "Gone" not one stone upon another We disagree Your assumption that I claimed God himself dwelled in the Jerusalem temple is not my intent or suggestion, When the veil in the temple was rent, Gods interest in the temple in Jerusalem was (Gone) as Jesus Christ became the high priest in mediation

Your "assumption" is wrong, my stance is based upon Gods words of truth, and that alone 70AD played no role in fulfillment of Matthew 24:2, the temple destruction was symbolic as clearly explained, and this doesn't have dual fulfillment The generation seen in Matthew 24 is a future generation that will be eyewitnesses of the future signs to be seen, and the coming of the Lord, this didn't take place in 70AD as many claim In Love, Jesus Is The Lord "This Generation" represents a future generation that will be eyewitnesses of the signs and the Lords return 1. What is near even at the doors? 2. What is the day and hour no man knows? "The Lords Return", a future event unfulfilled Matthew 24:32-36KJV 32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: 33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. 34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. 35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. 36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

It's your opinion, and it's my opinion your wrong John clearly stated it was the "Temple Of The Lords Body" Yes Jesus stated to the Pharisees "Destroy This Temple" and that destruction was "Symbolic" as scripture teaches below If Jesus was speaking of a literal destruction and rebuilding of the temple, he would be lying to the Pharisees John 2:19-22KJV 19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. 20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days? 21 But he spake of the temple of his body. 22 When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.

There isn't a future Russian war seen in either Ezekiel 39 or Revelation 20

Satan Is Loosed At The End Of The Tribulation When The 6th Vial Is Poured Out As Seen In (Revelation) 16:12, The Deception Is Devils In False Miracles Going Forth To The Kings Of The Earth, To Gather Them To The Final Battle Revelation 20:7-9KJV 7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, 8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. 9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. (Revelation) 16:12-14 & (Revelation) 20:7-8 Same Deception In Gathering The Nations To The Very Same Final Battle In "Parallel" Teachings Of The Same Event (Revelation) 16:12-17KJV 12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared. 13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty. 15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. 16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon. 17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

No Revelation 3:10 isn't a Darby pre-trib rapture of the Church to heaven as dispensationalism claims and teaches

Yes the Lord Divinely feeds and protects the "Remnant Church" in the wilderness during the tribulation