Marilyn C

Thanks Ad Hoc, I got it from my teachers of long ago and put it in a diagram.

Hi VA, God`s word designates 3 callings, - the Body of Christ, Israel and the Nations. And there are 3 time slots for those groups also. In Hebrew and Greek the word ` Day, ` refers to a period of time and a specific day. Thus context is important to know which. 1. The Day of Christ. (Phil. 1: 6 - 10) 1 Cor. 1: 7 & 8) This period of time is not only the first in chronological order of fulfilment, but is the greatest in importance in the Divine predestinations. Each reference relates entirely and exclusively to the Church, the Body of Christ, in the specific time-slot identified with the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ. It signifies completion of the highest of God`s purposes, the supreme expression of Divine revelation. All other expressions of His ordinations are dependent on its completion. 2. The Day of the LORD. (1 Thess. 5: 2 - 9, 2 Peter 3: 10) This has to do with Israel and the nations and is invariably connected with the wrath of God poured out in judgment on an unbelieving world. It refers to that period of time from the termination of `The Day of Christ,` through the tribulation and millennium and terminating with the creation of the new heavens and earth which precludes `The Day of God. ` 3. The Day of God. (2 Peter 3: 11 & 12) The Day when God will purge and purify the heavens and the earth by fire. Peter is the only one who uses the phrase, `The Day of God.` (It concludes `The Day of the LORD.` )

What a great scripture there Ad Hoc. The `upward call` means the `on top calling. ` Thus, we know there are other calling too - to the earth, to the New Jerusalem and to the third heaven.

Yes, dear old contender, Ad Hoc, We so love to get our teeth into whatever and develop the argument. Now obviously we would be aware of the person we are talking to whether the topic is suitable for them. As I said earlier, I am doing this with the atheist viole. She will have to admit that what was given to her from God`s word is true as it comes to pass.

Hi Marathoner, On some other thread (can`t find it) you mentioned how you are now a counselor, which God said would happen and you were amazed. I think God is so good to take you through all that learning with difficult people and now being able to counsel them. I pray that God will continue to give you His wisdom and understanding and compassion for these people. Bless you bro, Marilyn.

Hi VA, I agree with your thought about sharing some events to come to prepare people. I especially like the part where you said `to keep it real simple.` That is because people generally can only remember 2 or 3 points at a time and to try and remember a long list is nigh on impossible for many people. And it seems you might shortened your list. So....here is my suggestion. 1. A great army of Russia and Iran (& others) will come down to destroy Israel. 2. They will get annihilated by a great earthquake that sets off a volcano that wipes them out. I am doing this with viole, an atheist on the special forum. I have just asked her would she like to know what the Bible says will happen next in the Middle East. She responded with `oh the Ethiopians are going to the Golan Heights.` Now I told her that over a year ago and then I haven`t talked to her since. But she remembered that strange fact. I haven`t told her yet how God will deal with the great army but as it is not long now and it will be a real wake up call for her, especially as she is so sarcastic about it all. Now, if anyone then asks you what happens after 1 & 2 (above) you can say - 1. There will be Peace in the Middle East but then great calamities will affect the food and water, so much so that it will need to be rationed. 2. Finally, you will become controlled having had a chip in your hand, (or forehead). This will have your ID, Banking, Medical etc details. You will not be able to buy or sell, or travel, etc without it. If you are asked `what will we do?` Then you can say, `Don`t take the chip, but cry out to God.

Hi Ad Hoc, God`s word tells us that the church, the Body of Christ is a `spiritual body.` `For by one Spirit we were all baptised into one body ...` (1 Cor. 12: 13) The different denominations or non-denominations are a result of man encamping around a truth that the Holy Spirit had revealed to them. God is NOT concerned about the outward scaffolding of man`s denominations but of the inward, man`s heart. And that is what is growing more like the Lord by His Holy Spirit. Not all believers will come to understand all the truths the Holy Spirit has revealed over the years. However, if they are standing for a truth of Christ, then they are part of the Body that will be caught away to glory.

Satan has sway of ALL the world systems and nations. And the Times of the Gentiles finishes when Jerusalem is surrounded by the world armies and Jesus deals with them. That is the final end of Gentiles ruling the world.

I`m glad we agree. I have always said that the UN propagates the false religion - mother earth, save the planet, etc.

So, is this what you are saying? That the Luciferian Jew will be the leader of the EU which will be the most terrifying Federation there has ever been? If so, then can I ask you a few questions. 1. How will the EU overcome the British Commonwealth, America, the Russian Federation, Islam, China etc? 2. The 27 nations of the EU aren`t all of one mind and don`t even like to go to war so...? How are they to come together and be worse than Islam? 3. Many of the EU nations are having riots in their cities, and the Netherlands is getting rid of some of their most productive farming land and rewilding it. Food is getting dearer, and energy is hard to get since the Ukraine war, so how will they control the rest of the world? 4. A Luciferian Jew as leader of the world is NOT a Gentile which is needed for the `times of the Gentiles ruling the world.` And who said that Israel will accept a Messiah before the Lord comes?

Hi Koneckey, Nice to see you starting such a good thread. Now, I see from God`s word that His plan and purpose is for us to be like Christ. `We know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose. For whom He foreknew, He predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren.` (Rom. 8: 28 & 29) Then whatever area of life we find ourselves in then we are to serve - our family, our friends, others in the Body of Christ, our neighbors, our community etc. In every area God by His Holy Spirit will be making us like Christ.

So, 1to3, May I ask you a question. When do you see the EU become more terrifying than the Islam has shown us?

Good VA, I`ve used God`s prophetic word for many years to explain the world situation and people are able to see it happening. I have been having talks with the lady who does house cleaning for me. After the killings here in OZ the other day she was talking about that and the Muslims. And then that led to the Middle East. I told her that in the OT it tells of the Northern army and Iran and others that come down to Israel, but there is a great earthquake which sets off a volcano that wipes the armies out. She said - "Good old mother nature." Now, that is as far as I went for now. She knows we are believers by the Bibles and scriptures around, but still building that relationship and a step at a time. She is getting the idea that God`s word is up to date and she will ask more questions. As I see her often I`m not hurrying but seeking God for the timing.

Oh, sorry 1to3 I misunderstood. Yes, I believe Dan. 12: 4 is happening now.

I appreciate that Ad Hoc. Thanks.