Marilyn C

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  1. THE INTOXICATING WINE. ”Come I will show you the judgment of the great prostitute who sits on many waters, with whom the kings of the earth were made drunk with the wine of her fornication.”(Rev. 17: 1 & 2) What is it then that the leaders of the world receive from the apostate church and other religions, that make them `drunk, ` wanting to drink and drink of it. Religious leaders have great authority over their people, over their spiritual beliefs, which in turn wields the greatest power to control others -their hearts and minds. This is what leaders of the world desire above all - the greatest authority and power to use as they will. So what belief is it that will mobilise all religions to work together and with governments of the world. `Together, we can transform the world.` Religions have caused the suffering of all mankind, and now we can work together to change that. That is the lie, the `guilt` that is being placed on every person, especially Christians, to believe that we are to blame and that we can make a difference and change, transform the world. Every sphere of society is being engaged in this great quest for transformation, bringing `Peace and Safety` to all. People are wanting their organisation to be seen to be working toward this great goal. People are wanting their consciences cleaned, for the suffering of the world is shown daily on our screens and often people can feel helpless. Why isn`t someone doing something? So when religious leaders step up and sign these grand declarations, people believe that at last something will happen to transform our world. What is actually happening, is that step by step people are being deceived by the great lie that man can `fix` the world, whereas God is going to judge it. Guilt, is a great motivator, and it feeds on people`s ignorance of God`s plan. Thus the leaders of the world are delighted, intoxicated with the power they are getting over the masses by seemingly to work together.
  2. Hi Warrior12, Good topic as I believe it applies to us today. Here are my thoughts - I believe the mystery, of Babylon the great, the mother of prostitutes and the abominations of the earth, is the apostate Church, (Catholic and Protestant) which gathers all other religions under their umbrella - Babylon the great, being the apostate Church, (mother) and `all religions` being the other prostitutes. The picture of prostitutes in God`s word is often applied to the people of God turning away from God and to other religions. This activity is clearly seen in the world today. THE WORLD COUNCIL OF RELIGIOUS LEADERS. So to bring together all the various religions of the world there needs to be a coordinated Leadership. Thus there has been established the `World Council of Religious Leaders,` in cooperation with the United Nations, to head up the Religions of the World. This is, I believe, the apostate Church, (Catholic and Protestant) and all the other religions - Religious Babylon, Mother of prostitutes. THE PARTNERING TOGETHER. Now as to the leaders, the kings `committing fornication` with the apostate church and all religions of the earth, we can also see that today. The `Kings of the earth,` are the leaders of the different countries of the world. We see them at the United Nations, gathering under the guise of `we can work together...` So how are they `committing fornication` with the `apostate church and all religions?` This World Council of Religious and Spiritual Leaders works in an advisory capacity with the United Nations and also with other international organisations and have put together a Charter that signifies their commitment to the common goals and shared values of peace, development, human rights and tolerance. Radiating from this top Leadership Council position there are regional Leaders and then National Leaders, till finally every church is included. Policies are written with the United Nation`s moral values, and then implemented on the local level. The Charter of the World Council of Religious Leaders states – `We believe we have the will and courage to lead our followers to accept differences, to maintain self-respect, and to live in harmony with diverse communities in the world and with humankind in general.` Some examples of their policies that every church and religion is implementing - Safe Churches. This seems to provide a safe environment for children and people at the Church organisation, however it puts the rights of the child ahead of the parents upbringing of the child. It opens up the child to sexual preferences and different religions. This is from the UN`s rights of the child - Article 13 The child shall have the right to freedom of expression; this right shall include freedom to seek, receive and impart information and ideas of all kinds, regardless of frontiers, either orally, in writing or in print, in the form of art, or through any other media of the child's choice. Freedom Network. This is a joint declaration by most religions to end slavery. However within its mandate there is the subtle agreement to giving assent to different types of sexual preferences.
  3. So agree there Fidei Defensor, Often people look to certain outward things that they judge is maturity - how many meetings, etc whereas God is concerned with the heart and dealing with our attitudes in relationships. Eileenhat spoke on something similar. My personal thoughts are that I believe the Head, the Lord Jesus Christ is maturing His Body till it is ready to go with Him. He is quite able to take away all things that hinder our growth until we rely on Him alone. This is in stark contrast to most sermons in man`s organisations, which say the God has great plans for you, meaning success, money, promotion etc. Nothing, but nothing is compared to being made like unto Christ - ` If I gained the world but not the saviour...` The start of a song. regards, Marilyn.
  4. `...knowing that you were not redeemed with corruptible things, like silver and gold, from your aimless conduct...` (1 Peter 1: 18) `...that the genuineness of your faith, being much more precious than gold that perishes...` (1 Peter 1: 7)
  5. Reference: Fairbairn`s Imperial Standard Bible Encyclopedia. `There can be no doubt that the sacred use of the trumpet had its reason in the loud and stirring noise it emits. This is described as a cry, Le. 25: 9 - the rendering `sound` in the English Bible is too feeble - which was to make itself heard throughout the whole land. The references to it in Scripture not unfrequently indicate the same idea, Zep. 1: 16. Isa. 58: 1, Hos. 8: 1, etc. And for this reason the sound of the trumpet was familiarly employed as an image of the voice or word of God. The voice of God and the voice of the trumpet on Mount Sinai were heard together - first, the trumpet-sound as the symbol, then the living reality, Ex. 19: 16 - 19. St. John also speaks of having heard the voice of the Lord as that of a trumpet, Rev. 1: 10. 4: 1, and the thrilling sound of the trumpet is once again represented as the immediate harbinger of the Son of Man when He comes in power and glory, to utter the almighty word, which shall quicken the dead to life....` 1 Cor. 15: 52, 1 Thess. 4: 16. It is clear, therefore, that the blowing of the trumpet was, in certain connections, used as a symbol of the mighty voice of God, which, when uttered, none may venture to disregard.` So Shiloh, Would you also call the comments of the author of the Fairbairn`s Bible Encyclopedia, Patrick Fairbairn, as an` inferior method`` for handling the Bible? For he states -the blowing of the trumpet was, in certain connections, used as a symbol of the mighty voice of God Marilyn.
  6. Hi wingnut, Trumpets are earthly things, corruptible, - subject to decay, destruction. Marilyn.
  7. Hi wingnut, I think you have misunderstood, I said that `the voice is as a trumpet speaking to me,` (John) as the scripture says. regards, Marilyn.
  8. Hi Davida, I have not said anything that is not in scripture or of the meaning of the Greek word or the meaning from a dictionary. Nothing of my imagination there bro. As to us hearing a trumpet from heaven, there are no trumpets in heaven as they are earthly things. Now you said - `This was a heavenly voice speaking /summoning him as a trump saying "come hither. " That is my take. Btw, I believe at the Rapture we will hear a Trump as it says.` You are saying one is a voice and the other is a trump (et). Which is it? regards, Marilyn.
  9. Hi wingnut, Yes we agree that it is a voice, (God`s) that is like a trumpet. The trumpet is the symbol. There is no trumpet in heaven, just as there is no lamb in heaven, (Rev. 5: 6) but we know that they are symbols. regards, Marilyn.
  10. Hi Davida, `After this I looked, and behold, a door was opened in heaven; and the first voice I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking to me; which said, "Come up hither..` (Rev. 4: 1) Trumpet - Gk. word, `salpigx,` meaning quavering, reverberation, vibration. We know that trumpets don`t talk, however God is revealing to us that His voice reverberates, like an echo. It goes forth and returns. Very powerful. Marilyn.
  11. It is quite obvious that 3 things have to happen, `For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first.` (1 Thess. 4: 16) 1. The shout, command for gathering of the Body of Christ, 2. The clearing of angelic beings, the voice of the archangel, 3. The trumpet/voice of authority of God to raise the dead. Marilyn.
  12. Hi Davida, On earth God uses trumpets to tell the people - to gather, to pray, etc however in relation to heavenly things the actual is the voice of God as scripture tells us. No imaginings there bro. Marilyn.
  13. Not at all trying to force anything, it is all laid out in scripture, bro, `For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first.` (1 Thess. 4: 16) -the shout of the Lord, Gk. word `keleuma,` a cry of incitement, from `keleuo` to urge on, hail, to order, give a command. - the trumpet of God, Gk. word `salpigx,` quavering, reverberation, a trump, a trumpet. The first voice is a `shout` of command to the Body of Christ on earth, and the second is the authority to raise the dead. Marilyn.
  14. The Trump of God is the `vibration, the quavering` of God`s voice. Gk. word `salpigx` through the idea of quavering or reverberation.
  15. Interesting bro, and your scriptures to prove that?