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    A place for rapture questions

    in Eschatology

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    20 hours ago, WailingWall said:

    After we are changed in the twinkling of an eye are there any scriptures that directly say we are headin for heaven?

    NO you are right, nowhere in the Bible does it say we are going to a place called heaven. The Lord is coming here and we shall be with Him forever. 

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    HERE IS WISDOM ... LET HE WHO HATH UNDERSTANDING COUNT THE NUMBER ... ... 666

    in Prophecy

    Posted

    17 hours ago, Gibbus said:

     

    (traditional positions)

    1. Science Position for 666 = Calculation System

    2. Religious Position for 666 = Tied to Jeruslaem

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    1. Science Position for 666 = Daniel's 70 Weeks are Longer than 77 Years

    2. Religious Position for 666 = Daniel's 70 Weeks are no Greater than 77 Years

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    1. Apostle Paul/Gentile 42 Years to Temple Destruction (Isaiah 11:10-11 (second coming), 2Kings2:23-25)

    2. Jesus Birth to Temple Destruction did not exceed 77 Years (Ezra 8:35)

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    1. (Jewish Holocaust implied in all their theologies)

    2. (Blind and Dumb death for non-religious in all their theologies)

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    (I will make a statement, but everything will be resolved on 12/21/2018)

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    1. (Mayan Calendar Base 260/Issac Netwon 2060 ... Iching Base 64/Ninth Planet) (Isaiah 38:8)

    2. Independance of Isreal + 66 Years to (flight 370) 1290 Days to end 70 Years/Weeks + 1335 Days to End of Earth (153 Days May 21, 2011 to Oct 21, 2011) (ezra 8:35)

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    (Statement is Legal Evidence)

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    1. "1290 and 1335" from Jesus Birth (Star Bethlehem)

    2. "42 Years from Crucifixion to "Jesus Touch Earth" Temple Destruction, within 77 Years

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    1. One Week of Daniel = "1290 and 1335" (half of this, middle of the week implied)

    2. Middle of the Week (s) of Daniel = 42 Years (half of 77)

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    1. Flight 370 ... then 7 Years to end ... "1290 before and 1335 after" the 70th Year

    2. Nguyen Van Lem 1968 then 42 years to 9/11/2001 ("Jesus Touch Earth")

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    LAPIS EXILLIS: Lost Secrets of the Illuminati - HD FEATURE

    youtube.com/watch?v=Z_75v1XA46g&t=2011s

    Terrence Mckenna believed me, and a few others, I don't remember if Budd Hopkins was among those few, but I did mail him a letter about the aliens, using the mother of the father's surname, the rest is what history records ......................."Ray Mabus ............ is inscribed at the Master Building in New York", it was the end of the 42 Years for the Gentiles God had in view, and, the sign that appear over that building answer and removed all doubts, about my claim of "Jesus Touching the Earth" at that time ........................ nonetheless when they did silence Terrence Mckenna, he changed his "Timewave Zero" date from 9/11/2001 to 12/21/2012, he lost hope in humanity.  And, Budd Hopkins followed in his footsetps, he also lost all hope in humanity, that is why I expressly contacted him about the aliens to provide more detail about the "Gentile Dispute" that claimed, Terrence Mckenna's, whole life, before Budd Hopkins was consumed and likewise, lost his whole life.

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    (I told you my goal, was to bring truth, not to answer for the coming of the lord, not to provide a date for his return, but, to give these people what they want, while they are in their death throws, "pain for pain".  And the magnitude of pain in what was necessary for hurting me is as you have seen it, and there can be much more.  If I didn't already perceive that, that at the moment, the people in the highest positions of the united states, in the highest positions of the public trust, recently lost their desire to keep hurting me, after seeing only a small fraction of the pure suffering and death, that can happen very quickly, if you don't learn quickly to stop hurting me.

    Now.  12/21/2018.  Maybe nothing at all, but it is the only correct position the gospel acknowledges if any, for any length of time beyond 77 years for daniel's week to year argument, and that argument is not straight forward.  Now.  One conclusion is that nothing happens, and billions will die with me, as a fool, blind, not knowing jesus in their final hours before they die.  Or.  the President of the USA will give the order to blow out my brains at Sutton and Macdade Blvd. in Folsom PA near my address, for the Prophecy of "Annemark of Nostradamus" or "Allen C. Martin", these are unfulfilled prophecies about the "Gentile Age, that is Disputed".................... we did talk about a "North Korea War", about how, I have proved, with legal evidences, how North Korea had launched a satellite into space that contained a nuclear weapon, one, the USA has no position on, and one that if dropped vertically, in a blind zone, will evade all weapons and defensive systems, until detonation takes place, and that is the only answer to provide the american citizens, before the "North Korea War", that will begin as soon as 12/21/2018 ...................... if you have nothing else, maybe, the blessing of the war, will be your peace, as this will happen soon)

    I think you are in need of serious help 

    The context of 1 Thess 5:1

    in Prophecy

    Posted

    1 hour ago, iamlamad said:

    This is not a thread on OSAS. All I will say is, millions of educated believers don't believe it. And for good scriptural reasons. For example, what did Jesus say about unforgiveness? He said if we don't forgive, then He can't forgive.  Some people imagine the sin of holding unforgiveness will be allowed into heaven. 

    They don't know about Pastor Daniel Ekechukwu who had a terrible fight with his wife, drove off angry plotting how he could get even, then had an auto accident and died. An angel took him to see hell and told him if his book was closed that day, here (hell) was where he would be. 

    Daniel immediately protested, but the angel told him that because he would not forgive his wife, God would not forgive him. The angels said he would be reaping what he was sowing - that one could not sow unforgiveness and the reap forgiveness from God. 

    Thank God, his book was not closed, for his wife got friends to steal his dead body from his family, took it to a Reinhardt Boonke meeting, and he came back to his body. His wife's faith saved him from an eternity away from God.  

    By the way, now he preaches very strongly against unforgiveness! We as believers must NOT hold grudges or not be willing to forgive. The cost will be an eternity away from God!

    Ultimately there is a God side to our salvation, and there is a man's side. 

    Wow she did the very thing the Bible says is impossible to do (the rich man and Lazrus ). Do you really be that lamad?  

    Only the Dead in Christ Return With Him

    in Eschatology

    Posted

    2 hours ago, Daniel 11:36 said:

    "Christ returns with the spirits of those who sleep in Chirst - no one alive comes back as pre-tribbers claim. This debunks that false theory"

     

    You are flat wrong my friend

    How about some scripture proving the lady is wrong, not your opinion. 

    Defense of the Pre Trib Rapture

    in Eschatology

    Posted

    8 minutes ago, JoeCanada said:

    Hi Sojourner414....

    You say that the 144,000 become evangelists to the world, preaching Christ......

    Where do you get this from? Are they sealed before the Tribulation begins?

    Rev 6 is the opening of the first 6 seals. The first mention in Rev about the 144,000 is in Rev 7.

    In Rev 7:1, John says....AFTER these things ( this follows  Rev 6 and the opening of the 6 seals) I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree....

    Rev 7:2  And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,

    Rev 7:3  Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

    So it is here that these 144,000 are sealed ..........................after the 6th seal and before the 7th seal.

    After the 7th seal is opened, then the angels who have the 7 trumpets begin to sound. It is here that the earth, sea and trees are harmed.

    Rev 8:7  The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.

    Rev 8:8  And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;

    Rev 8:10  And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters;

    So if the 144,000 are not sealed until after the 6th seal and before the 7th seal, how can they be evangelists that are sealed BEFORE the beginning of the Tribulation and minister to the whole world?

    Because the pre-tribbers say so ?

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