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Then how do you reconcile the book of Exodus telling us that 74 people saw the God of Israel and Jesus telling us that no one had seen the Father. Please see the following answer to your question:- John 6:46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father. No (hu)man has ever seen God nor will that ever happen. God is Spirit and the ONLY way to "see" God is to see things with spiritual eyes, just as Christ told us:- John 3:3-6 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born from above, he cannot SEE the Kingdom of God. 3:4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water (human) and then is born (later) from above as his spirit-"Being" (his REAL self which is NOT human), he can NOT enter into the Kingdom of God (Who is a Spirit-"Being"). 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is human; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit (a spirit-"Being") - (a human+Being). This is why most of the world looked at Jesus and saw the man rather than seeing the Spirit-Being (Christ) inside of Jesus. They were looking at Him with human rather than spiritual eyes. It will be EXACTLY the same during His Second Coming, just as He told us 2000 years ago:- Matthew 24:37-39 24:37 But as the days of Noah [were], so shall also the coming of the Son of Man be. 24:38 For as in the days that were before The Flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, 24:39 And knew not until The Flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of Man be. Noah warned everyone the flood was coming and that if they refused to give up their worldly life and traditions, and return to God and obey Him ONLY, they would not survive. No one except Noah's immediate family believed him and EVERYONE ELSE DIED. *Edit link removed* Christ is telling us plainly in the verses above that it will be just the same during His Second Coming, where people will be so sure of themselves and their own ways that they won't recognise, believe or listen to Him. He will be rejected by most of the world, including "Christians", who call Him Lord, but don't DO God's Will. There is no way to do God's Will whilst disobeying His Commandments (John 14:15, 21-24). Matthew 7:21-24 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the Kingdom of heaven; ONLY he that doeth the Will of my Father which is in heaven. 7:22 Many will say to me in That Day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work inequity. 7:24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and DOETH THEM, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a Rock (the Truth):

Thank-you for your reply Floatingaxe, Please see the following, straight from God Himself:- Matthew 3:17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. God is NOT the author of confusion and He didn't stage a conversation with Himself for our amusement. He is our Creator and the King Ruler of the Universe and Christ is His Eldest Son, just as we've been told (Col. 1:14-15). One has to overlook dozens of verses to arrive at the erroneous conclusion that Christ claimed to be "I AM". All Christ-Jesus is telling us in John 8:58 is that He has been around, as His True Self/Spirit-Being for a long, long time, as confirmed by John 17:5. John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was born, I am. John 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify Thou me with Thine Own self with the glory which I had with Thee BEFORE THE WORLD WAS. If Christ was really telling us this one time that He is Father (which would have contradicted many, many verses where He says otherwise), He would have made it crystal clear just as Father did when He told us (in the verse you previously quoted):- Exodus 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and He said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, "I AM" hath sent me unto you. Regarding the verses you quoted from Psalm 110, it is referring to the natural order of things exactly as defined in I Corinthians 11:3:- I Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman [is] the man; and the head of Christ [is] God. Why do you suppose the pharisees/politicians couldn't answer Christ's question about Psalm 110 please? Matthew 22:41-46 22:41 While the politicians were gathered together, Jesus asked them, 22:42 Saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, [The Son] of David. 22:43 He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying, 22:44 The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool? 22:45 If David then call him Lord, how is He his son? 22:46 And no man was able to answer him a word, neither durst any [man] from that day forth ask him any more [questions].

Then how do you reconcile the book of Exodus telling us that 74 people saw the God of Israel and Jesus telling us that no one had seen the Father. John 5:30-47 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the Will of the Father which hath sent me. 5:31 If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true. 5:32 There is another that beareth witness of me; and I know that the witness which he witnesseth of me is true. 5:33 Ye sent unto John, and he bare witness unto the truth. 5:34 But I receive not testimony from man: but these things I say, that ye might be saved. 5:35 He was a burning and a shining light: and ye were willing for a season to rejoice in his Light. 5:36 But I have greater witness than [that] of John: for the works which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me. 5:37 And the Father Himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard His voice at any time, nor seen His shape. 5:38 And ye have not His Word abiding in you: for whom He hath sent, him ye believe not. 5:39 Search the Scriptures; for in them ye think ye have Eternal Life: and they are they which testify of me. 5:40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have Life. 5:41 I receive not honour from men. 5:42 But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you. 5:43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. 5:44 How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that [cometh] from God only? 5:45 Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is [one] that accuseth you, [even] Moses, in whom ye trust. 5:46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. 5:47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words? Pretty clear that Christ is speaking directly to a specific group of men, which in no way contradicts what we are told in Exodus 24 about an entirely different group separated by about 1500 years. Wouldn't you agree?

Thank-you Floatingaxe for providing Exodus 3:14, where Father Himself told us His Name. If I may share this please, The Master (Christ) likewise made it clear when He was here in the body of Jesus 2000 years ago that He was God's Son and NOT God Himself ("I AM"). John 3:16-19 3:16 For God so loved the world, that He gave His only incarnated Son, that whosoever believeth him should not perish, but have Everlasting Life. 3:17 For God sent not His Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 3:18 He that believeth him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the identity of the only incarnated Son of God. 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that Light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than Light, because their deeds were evil. Matthew 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou ME good? [there is] none good but One, [that is], God: but if thou wilt enter into Life, keep the Commandments. John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and [to] my God, and your God. With the world in the sad shape that it is in today, shouldn't we be looking for Christ to be here now, in the flesh, just as is prophesied? *Edit link removed*

John 3:13 And NO MAN HATH ASCENDED UP TO HEAVEN, but he that came down from heaven, [even] the Son of Man which is from heaven. This means EXACTLY what it says. No one has EVER ascended to heaven save Christ, the Spirit-Being. That means that ALL of the man-made doctrines/organised religions are WRONG and have been leading us astray, as should be obvious by taking a serious look at the world around us. IF organised religion was The Way, then the world should be getting better. There are more people involved in organised religion today (Christianity, Judaism, Islam, etc.) than ever before. There are more Christians now than ever before. No matter which way you look we should be transforming into a more peaceful, humble and respectful society IF organised religion was the answer. Instead this world is getting worse by the day if not by the hour, which is proof that organised religion isn't The Way. Christ IS The Way (John 14:6). And for the world to get better, we all need to start following His Example in thought, word AND deed instead of believing Satan's lies that we are all so good we have nothing to worry about (i.e. "saved"). We are ALL evil as we have been told many times (beginning on the very first page of the Bible). People prefer the word "sinner" but a sinner is simply someone who breaks God's Law/does evil in God's Eyes. So it is totally illogical for people to think of themselves as "good" sinners. Look at the mess of the world that we have made by doing things our way instead of loving by God's Royal Law of Liberty as He COMMANDED us for our own individual and collective benefit. Both the US and the UK are in an unprecedented state of moral decay. Both are exponentially growing police states. Freedom is an illusion and injustice is rampant. And instead of placing our Faith/Trust in God, we have foolishly placed it in the hands of politicians (pharisees) and lawyers (scribes) despite Christ's warnings about them 2000 years ago, which was reiterating what Father has been telling us all along. *Edit link removed* We are engaged in a "war on terror" based on a complete pack of lies, including what we were spoon-fed through the mainstream media about events such as 9/11 and 7/7. Doesn't anyone "SEE" where this is leading? How can you have a war against a thing? We can't sit down at the table and negotiate a truce with a thing so how does the supposed "war on terror" (which is really a war OF terror) ever end? The international banking cartel has a motto..."perpetual commerce through perpetual war". And THEY are using every means possible to steal the wealth of nations and of their people, before they kill off over 90% of the population. NWO Guideline #1 (from*Edit link removed* Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature. That means that over 6 BILLION of us need to go to suit their evil agenda. Briefly, these people (Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Warburgs, etc.) a.k.a. the "hidden hand" are tracked throughout the Bible from beginning to end. 2000 years ago they made up the ruling body of the organised religion of that time--the great San Hedrin--which was responsible for engineering and carrying out the crucifixion of Jesus. So how has all of this happened under our watch? The answer is very simple: WE HAVEN'T KEPT THE COVENANT (Contract) with God to obey Him ONLY, which begins with His PERFECT Law (found in the first five books of the Bible, namely Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy) that provides TRUE freedom, justice, peace, prosperity, safety and security for ALL. In The Law--God's Law--which is the ONLY legitimate law on this planet in God's Eyes, He has forbidden mankind from legislating (Deuteronomy 4:2, 12:32), because He has always known if we were to make up our own rules, the rich would oppress the poor, the strong would oppress the weak and the clever would oppress the not-so-clever, just as has happened. That includes watershed documents like the Magna Carta, English law and the U.S. CONstitution. The plain fact that lawyers and politicians don't seem to have any problem circumventing these man-made documents and all of the millions of man-made laws THEY have created to enslave and oppress us, should serve as proof that these documents are not the infallible pieces of parchment that everyone has been CONNED into believing. With millions of fraudulent man-made laws on the books, there is absolutely no way for anyone to read, much less understand, all of these laws, which creates a (planned) state of lawlessness. So what we are seeing today is almost a complete reversal of the universal principles that God gave us in The Law. The "I AM" (our heavenly Father) has been warning us for 6000 years that if we refuse to come to our senses and return to His Law, He will be forced to burn us up on Judgment Day. There is absolutely no way we could be allowed to go home to heaven and create this sort of chaos there...AGAIN. Please see one such warning below, found on the final page of the Old Covenant/Testament. Malachi 4 4:1 For, behold, the Day cometh, that shall burn like an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the "I AM" Lord of hosts, that it shall leave of them neither root nor branch (nothing). 4:2 But unto you that fear My name shall the Sun of Righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall. 4:3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in The Day that I shall do [this], saith the "I AM" Lord of hosts. 4:4 Remember ye and return to The Law of Moses My servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, [with] the Statutes and Judgments. 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the Prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful Day of the "I AM" (Sura 43:61): 4:6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse (see verse 1). Until we decide for ourselves that enough is enough, and that we do NOT know better than Father what is best for us, things will continue to get worse, with the NWO advancing their evil agenda, including their population reduction plan. Matthew 24:21-22 24:21 For then shall be great oppression, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, THERE SHOULD NO FLESH BE SAVED: but for the Elect's sake those days shall be shortened. The ONLY Way out of this is for everyone to put away their petty differences and misplaced beliefs and place our COMPLETE Faith in God and His Law. Best of all according to the Scriptures, Christ should be here NOW in a new body with a NEW NAME (Rev. 2:17, 3:12, 19:12) to help reinstate Father's Law. On Judgment Day it will be too late to go back and change our past. The time to "SEE" things spiritually and help put this world right is NOW. We MUST crucify all selfishness just as Christ told us (Luke 9:23) and showed us through His Physical Crucifixion. *Edit link removed* The powerbase of the NWO is their ability to enact all of this fraudulent legislation, like the recent NDAA in the U.S. Get rid of all of the man-made laws that are being used to enslave us--and return to God's Law--and their entire house of cards will collapse. “Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God.” -Thomas Jefferson THEY = The Hierarchy Enslaving YOU

Thanks for your opinions shiloh357. Please see the replies to them below (still trying to learn how to properly use the quoting function, so please bear with the format). Nicolaitan means "a follower of Nicolas", a.k.a "St. Nick". ANYONE following the pagan Yuletide ritual is therefore a nicolaitan. The word comes from two Greek words, nikos and laos. Nikos means "conqueror" or "destroyer," and laos means "people." That should hopefully help us see who is behind the Yuletide/Saturnalia, which has been cleverly repackaged and renamed "Christ-mas(s)". Revelation 9:11 And they had a king over them, [which is] the angel of the Bottomless Pit, whose name in Hebrew [is] Abaddon (Destroyer), but in Greek [his] name is Apollyon (Destroyer - Satan). So who was the original Nicolas? Some believe it was Nimrod, who God called "a mighty hunter before the LORD" (Genesis 10:9), because he was a conqueror who openly defied God. It is also interesting to note that Nimrod is frequently depicted with a fir-tree and reindeer in his arms and was known throughout Asia Minor as "Santa". December 25th is reportedly Nimrod's birthday, NOT the birthday of Jesus. So there is nothing innocent nor Christ-like about celebrating X-mas or decorating "O Tannenbaum", as the heathens do, just as we were told this LONG BEFORE THE BIRTH OF JESUS! Jeremiah 10:1-4 10:1 Hear ye the Word which the "I AM" speaketh unto you, O House of Israel: 10:2 Thus saith the "I AM", Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. 10:3 For the customs of the people [are] vain: for [one] cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. 10:4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not. N.B. It is a historical fact that the book of Jeremiah was written approximately 600 YEARS BEFORE THE BIRTH OF JESUS and the Nicolaitans practice of decorating Yuletide/Saturnalia/X-mass trees was well-documented. from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satan: Satan (Hebrew: הַשָּׂטָן ha-Satan), "the opposer" Jeremiah 10:3-4 10:3 For the CUSTOMS of the people [are] vain: for [one] cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, WITH AN AXE. 10:4 THEY DECK IT with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not. from http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/deck_3: deck verb ( DECORATE ) Definition: to decorate or add something to something to make an effect People don't carve or fashion idols with axes nor do they "deck"/decorate them. Where does it talk about plating (molten metal - see Exodus 32:4)? It specifically says they were "decked" as in "Deck the halls..." And most importantly, WHERE DOES IT TELL US IN SCRIPTURE TO GO CUT DOWN (DESTROY) A TREE, BRING IT INTO OUR HOMES FOR A FEW WEEKS AND DECORATE IT TO HONOUR THE SUPPOSED BIRTHDAY OF JESUS? Answer: Nowhere. Which is PROOF that it is a pagan tradition. Then how is Jeremiah describing this centuries old tradition circa 600 B.C. please? Jesus was the human body that Christ (the Spirit-Being) incarnated 2000 years ago. Jesus died on the cross. Christ is an Immortal Being of Light. Christ is actually a title, which means "Anointed One", the same as Messiah in Hebrew. Christ's Name in heaven is Prince Michael, and He is God's Eldest (First-born) Son, just as God has told us:- Colossians 1:14-15 1:14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, [even] the forgiveness of sins: 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: The "I AM" (God) is The King Ruler of the Universe and Prince Michael is His First-born Son and Heir to the Throne, which is why He is referred to as PRINCE Michael. This is confirmed in Scripture, as Christ/Prince Michael is the ONLY One Who can "break the seals" on the Book that He had Daniel seal:- Daniel 10:21, 12:4 10:21 But I will show thee that which is noted in the Scripture of Truth: and [there is] NONE that holdeth with me in these things, EXCEPT Michael your prince (Eno. 67:1; Rev. 5:3; 5; 9 & 12:7). 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and "seal" the Book (Rev. 5:1-5), [even] to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and [evil] knowledge (1 Tim. 5:20) shall be increased. Revelation 5:1-5 5:1 And I saw in the right hand of Him that sat on the throne a Book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals (seven in God's "Code" means ALL or COMPLETELY). 5:2 And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the Book, and to loose the seals thereof? 5:3 And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the Book, neither to look thereon. 5:4 And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the Book, neither to look thereon. 5:5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Source of David, hath prevailed to open the Book, and to loose the seven seals thereof. It is also Prince Michael/Christ that has warned us that these end times will be a time of trouble worse than has ever been or ever will be:- Daniel 12:1 And at that time shall Michael [the Archangel] (Eno. 20:5; 36:1; 40:8; 58:1; 59:9; 57:1-2; 70:4; Rev. 12:7; Sura 2:98) stand up, the Great Prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation [even] to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the Book [of Life] (Rev. 13:8; 17:8; 20:15; 21:27; Sura 83:20). Matthew 25:21-22 24:21 For then shall be great oppression, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the Elect's sake those days shall be shortened. from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anagram:- An anagram is a type of word play, the result of rearranging the letters of a word or phrase to produce a new word or phrase, using all the original letters exactly once; e.g., orchestra = carthorse, A decimal point = I'm a dot in place, ...or in this case Santa = Satan The fact that Santa is also a Spanish word that is used in the names of towns does not negate the fact that it is an obvious anagram for Satan. There is absolutely NO question that Lucifer/Satan is the biggest con-artist ever and that he invented it:- Revelation 12:7-9 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon (Lucifer); and the dragon fought and his angels, 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out to the earth, and his angels (you - Luke 9:55) were cast out with him (Matthew 25:41). John 8:35 (8:44 KJV) Ye are of [YOUR] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the Truth, because there is no Truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father (inventor) of it. Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the Morning (Star)! [How] art thou cut down to the earth, which didst weaken the nations! Revelation 12:3-4 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great RED dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. 12:4 And his tale (of lies - John 8:35 above/KJV 8:44) drew the third part of the "Stars" (ch. 9:1) of heaven (into his army), and did (cause them to be) cast to the Earth (for their treason against God): and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born (Christ - second coming). All Scriptural quotes are from The King of kings' Bible link edited by Mizzdy, promoting ones own site is not allowed you may link it up on your profile page if you wish

from http://jahtruth.net/xmas X-MASS - YULETIDE A PAGAN FESTIVAL (which is actually condemned by Christ) CHRIST'S OPINION of SANTA CLAUS and YULETIDE, as expressed by HIS ANGEL, to HIS APOSTLE JOHN, in THE APOCALYPSE, Chapter 2. Xmas has absolutely nothing to do with God. It was originally called Yuletide, which is a pagan festival from the Babylonian Mystery religion of SUN worship. The Babylonians were merchants (they were the originators of the "Market-system" which is condemned by God) and they used Yuletide to sell their merchandise because, like today, it made them lots of money. Then in the first century A.D. Simon (the Sorcerer) Pater (NOT Peter) stole the name christian, mixed it with the Babylonian Mystery religion and formed a new religion called christianity, that teaches the opposite of what Christ taught, and has SUNdays as its sabbath days, due to its SUN-god worshipping origins (Galatians 1:6-9; 2:4). Simon Pater NOT Simon Peter (Cephas) started the fake religion called "christianity" (Acts 8:9-25). Christ's TRUE followers or disciples called themselves "Followers of The Way" or "Those True to The Covenant" (Nazrim ha-Brit), NOT christians. SUNday is the FIRST day of the week, NOT the Sabbath which is the SEVENTH day; on which God rested. This "so-called" christianity perverted the teachings of Christ and incorporated their pagan rituals, in their temples, which have as their focal point a "Tower of Babel" (from which the word Babylon is derived) in which were babbling-bells. This is directly opposed to the true teaching of Christ who says that YOU must NOT go to church (Matthew 6:5-6 where synagogue means all churches). They also hijacked the virgin-birth and moved it from April to December 25th to coincide with their own Yuletide festival, which Christ says he HATES, in the Holy Bible, in Apocalypse/Revelation 2:6, 15, where the Nicolaitanes, whose doctrine Christ hates, are the followers of Santa (Ni)-Claus, who celebrate Yuletide (and Easter [ishtar] a god of fertility - eggs are the symbol of fertility not crucifixion). Verse 6: But this thou hast (in thy favour), that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitanes which I (Christ) ALSO HATE. Verse 15: So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes (the followers of St.Nicholas - Santa Claus), which thing I (Christ) HATE. The Nicolaitans celebrate Yule-tide (Christmas now) and Santa Claus (st. Nicholas) and decorate trees with silver, which thing Christ HATES, because it is Satanic and NOT from God or Christ, as he makes perfectly clear in the verses above. SANTA CLAUS WEARS SCARLET which Christ has told us is SATAN'S COLOUR (see Revelations chapter 12 verses 3+9 - the great RED dragon - SATAN). SANTA CLAUS is an anagram for SATAN. SATAN LUCAS/LUCIFER - THE DEVIL. There is nothing Godly about Christmas and Christ HATES it; so how can christians celebrate it? Who taught them to do so? Certainly NOT Christ or his apostles. A true Christian would be one who follows Christ's Way, does what He did, loves what He loved and hates what he hates - he would not imagine or theorize on what Christ would like or not like. The "Virgin-birth" was in Spring at the time of birth and The Passover, when "lambs" were being born. It was NOT in December, the seasonal time of death. The virgin-birth was actually in April, with new-born lambs in the fields, just like the Second Coming. The fact that the three kings came to pay homage, and brought gifts of great wealth, was used by Satan to give, to those who perverted the teaching, the idea to continue and even increase the sales of their merchandise (a great marketing-exercise for them). So the virgin-birth was hijacked and corrupted into a time to make lots of money, using the ultimate in "high-pressure sales techniques", which was to falsely use God's Son's name, in order to embarass people, who couldn't afford to buy gifts, to go into debt or steal in order to buy their merchandise. By doing this the rich merchants ruin the lives of the poor, driving them further into debt and poverty or crime, whilst making themselves richer and richer. It is WRONG and EVIL from every angle. The original gifts were from rich kings to the "supposedly" poor - from the rich to the Son of God. There is absolutely NO Biblical precedent or teaching that supports giving gifts to human children. The merchants have turned it all backwards and made it the opposite, where the poor give money to the rich. They have done this because it and they are Satanically inspired. Satan is a Hebrew word that means "the Opposer" - someone who does and says the OPPOSITE of what God says, telling and teaching others to do the opposite too, by words, persuasion and example. Giving presents to human children, instead of them giving their "selves" as presents to God, feeds their egoes (the "self") and makes them more arrogant and selfish because people are paying homage to them, bringing them gifts. This arrogance then causes them to oppress adults (Isaiah 3:12). Instead of which they should be paying homage to God, and being thankful for Him having sent His Son to show them The Way, using their money in God's cause (for good). Children like adults have to lose their egoes and become unselfish (by daily crucifixion - "self"-sacrifice); humble; polite and helpful, or they will continue the ruining of the world and cause themselves to be executed on the Last Day. So, by giving gifts and celebrating a pagan festival, parents are, IN REALITY, doing harm to their own children and themselves, whilst making themselves poorer, and the rich richer and bringing about the ultimate execution of their children's souls (Beings) and their own, on the now imminent Last Day. Children should get only what they need, when they need it and NOT get expensive useless rubbish that breaks and/or is quickly discarded. They need you to spend the time, that you spent working to buy presents, with them, teaching them love and how to behave properly, instead of feeding their egoes. Less time at work, for you, and more time with your children so that you are not strangers to each other. Christ came to bring True Justice for everyone, to put an end to poverty and make life loving and better EVERY day not one miserable day a year. The decking of fir trees with silver and gold and placing presents (offerings) under them is also a pagan ritual condemned by God in the Bible in Jeremiah 10:2-4. Nimrod/Osiris/Horus is often pictured with wings, holding reindeer and a fir tree. Also, if you take the word CONIFER, which is the name given to the family of trees to which the Christmas (Fir) tree belongs, and split the word in two, you get: CON-IFER CON - Satan is known as the biggest con-artist ever. He invented it. IFER - The last half of Lucifer's name. HE'S LAUGHING AT ALL OF US RIGHT NOW! -------------------------------------- SANTA SATAN by Mr. Normal (Xmas Eve, 2000) Is it plausible that Santa is really Satan?" Think about it, folks! It's not just that "Santa" is an obvious anagram of Satan; that Santa wears a demonic red suit symbolic of the fires of Hell; and that his huge hat must conceal horns. The clincher is that Santa represents xmas, that time of year when christian greed and phony sincerity reach their unctuous peak. It's the season when braindead followers of the ultimate cult are whipped into frenzies that leave them figuratively drained -- broke and exhausted. Understandably, it's also the time of the year when depression and suicides max out as the futility of achieving happiness sinks in at least subliminally. A December, 2000 Gallup poll shows that 85% of us think that xmas is too commercial, but Santa/Satan wouldn't have it any other way! Our most respected institutions are in on the plot too. Even the law of the land (U.S.A.) forbids a baby Jesus in the town square, but who's there instead? You guessed it! Santa! - Satan. Lucifer/Satan once was one of God's angels. Satan's attempted heavenly coup failed (Isa. 14:12-15), but he was given his very own place to rule and called it Hell/Earth (Rev. 12:9) Satan also got free reign to tempt as many people as he wanted (even Christ himself!) and lots of fabulous stuff to tempt them with (like eternal youth and Mercedes Benzes). However, Satan still was not satisfied. He worked hard to make xmas the most important retail event of the year. A recent survey showed that 60% of holiday spending occurs at xmas, and another 20% at Satan's recognized holiday of Halloween. Think about it, folks! Satan has locked up 80% of our holiday dollars! Who else could be the "red dragon" of Revelation 12:3, ?. More important is that asking Santa for something really is an unwitting pact with the Devil, and parents are dooming their children's souls to Hell-Fire! (Coming to your neighbourhood; soon - JAH.) "Santa Satan's" devilish temptations have achieved what John Lennon could only try to claim for the Beatles -- greater popularity than Jesus! Indeed, "Santa Satan" truly is the reason for the season! -------------------------------------- Christ, the Spirit-Being that was placed in-side the body (IN-carnated not begotten as it has been misinterpreted) called Jesus, was not born 2000 years ago or even 2,000 millennia ago. He is, as he said, older than this planet and zillions of years old, being the first created by God (His oldest Son - Prince Michael - Dan. 10:21). It was only the human animal organic computer (body), that was used by the Son of God, that was born 2000 years ago. You are not supposed to worship or make graven images of a human organic computer, similar to the one that you are locked inside of, or even the spirit (Christ) that was within the body called Jesus, you are supposed to worship his Perfect Father the Supreme-Being, as Christ himself told you to do. God is not a human, He is a "Being of Light" (soul). Therefore His Son (Christ) is not a human either but was the soul (Being) that was inside the human body from the virgin-birth. God is Spirit (energy/Light) and you must worship Him in spirit (with your spirit - soul) in TRUTH and love Him, as He loves you. JAH.

Peace be upon you too. Thank-you for your reply Roy. You have quoted the letters of Paul, who was a STUDENT and is often misunderstood. Why would anyone turn to a student instead of following The Teachings that have come DIRECTLY from The Master/Teacher (Christ)? What did Christ actually say about The Law? "THINK NOT THAT I AM COME TO DESTROY THE LAW" (Matthew 5:17). The (Re)New(ed) Covenant has exactly the same terms as the Old Covenant (please see Deuteronomy 28) and EVERYONE on this prison planet is party to the Contract/Covenant with God (Deuteronomy 29:9-15). So anyone who isn't living by The Law hasn't accepted the free gift (the New Covenant/Second Chance) Christ paid for with the blood of Jesus on the cross, just as Paul told us. The Blessings are for following The Law, and the Curses are the penalty clause for not following The Law/keeping the Covenant. We ALL fell under the Curse of The Law (the penalty clause) and earned the death penalty for our actions. Christ came in part to take our place and give us all a second chance with the New Covenant. BUT THE TERMS OF THE CONTRACT/COVENANT REMAIN THE SAME EXACTLY AS CHRIST SAID (Matthew 5:18). There is no such thing as a Christian, Messianic Jew, Muslim, Buddhist, Gentile, etc. except in your mind! According to Father ("I AM") and His Eldest Son (Christ) Who are at One in ALL things (John 10:30) there are only those that DO God's Will and those that don't. There is absolutely no way to do God's Will whilst disobeying His Perfect Law of Liberty, which He gave us to provide TRUE freedom, justice, peace, prosperity, safety and security. Don't be fooled by Satan's organised religions into believing that we can continue to disobey God and not suffer the consequences for doing so. Jesus died to pay for our PAST SINS... Romans 3:25 Whom God hath fore-ordained [to be] an atonement through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins THAT ARE PAST, through the forbearance of God; ...NOT to give us the freedom to sin with impunity. Anyone who feels differently believes that Christ came to make the world MORE evil than it already is by encouraging us to sin/break The Law. Remember, sin is defined as breaking The Law (I John 3:4) and anyone who has truly been reborn as their spirit (their TRUE spiritual self) does NOT knowingly break The Law of God: I John 3:4-10 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also The Law: for sin is the transgression of The Law. 3:5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our (past) sins; and in him is no sin. 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. 3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he (Christ) is righteous. 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the Beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for His seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. 3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever DOETH NOT righteousness is NOT of God, neither he that loveth not his brother. Please take a look at the verses you have quoted from the letters of Paul in that context, so you can see what Paul was striving to tell us all. For example:- Romans 7:7 What shall we say then? Is The Law sin? GOD FORBID. Nay, I had not known sin, but by The Law: for I had not known lust, except The Law had said, Thou shalt not covet. Romans 7:11 For sin (breaking The Law - see I John 3:4), taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me*. *Ezekiel 18:4 18:4 Behold, all souls are Mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is Mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall DIE. Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin [is] DEATH; but the gift of God [is] eternal Life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Paul then goes on to tell us that he too is living by The Law:- Romans 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve The Law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin. 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 8:2 For The Law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from The Law of sin and death.** **IF, and ONLY if you are following Christ's Example and DOING God's Will, which BEGINS with obeying His Perfect Law of Liberty. The only way we can worship God is with our spirit/soul. The flesh/human/ego/"self" is controlled by Satan and MUST be brought under the control of the spirit/soul to DO God's Will. 8:3 For what The Law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: 8:4 That the righteousness of The Law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.*** ***Following Christ's Example in thought, word AND deed instead of talking about breaking God's Law and teaching others to do so (making one the lowest of the low in God's Eyes...please read what Christ said in Matthew 5:19). 8:5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. 8:6 For to be carnally minded is DEATH (please see Ezekiel 18:4 and Romans 6:23 above); but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 8:7 BECAUSE THE CARNAL MIND IS ENMITY AGAINST GOD: for it is not subject to The Law of God, neither indeed can be.**** 8:8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. ****Confirmation from Paul that Satan is in control of the flesh and we MUST overcome the temptation of the flesh by learning to control it with the perfect control that Christ had over Jesus at the crucifixion. So anyone who isn't living by The Law (doesn't feel they are subject to The Law of God) is serving the flesh and is at enmity against God. The Law contains all of God's Commandments, Statutes and Judgments, along with the perfect agricultural policy (with no GM foods or chemicals), the perfect economic policy (that eliminates usury and poverty - Deuteronomy 15:4), and the perfect healthy diet. Why would anyone wish to be free of The Law? Why would anyone think Christ came to give us the freedom to sin/break God's Law with impunity? Again, did Christ EVER tell us that He came to destroy or replace The Law that Father gave us? John 7:16-19 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but His that sent me. 7:17 If any man will do His will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or [whether] I speak of myself. 7:18 He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh His glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him. 7:19 Did not Moses give you The Law, and [yet] none of you keepeth The Law? Why go ye about to kill me? The ONLY solution out of this mess that we have created through our disobedience to God and His Perfect Law of Liberty is to REMEMBER and return to The Law (Malachi 4) or we will face The Fire. *Edit, Link Removed* The Law is the solution to ALL of the ills of this world and IF we were following The Law, it would end ALL war, injustice, poverty, sickness, suffering and death. THAT is God's Message of Love to the world and The Way that we all have to be to go home...to heaven (John 14:6). If we are not with God and Christ, then we are against Them (Matthew 12:30). Peace be upon you, voiceof1

Why would anyone assume they were saved when Christ has told us that NO ONE has gone to heaven except for Him (John 3:13)? Isn't that the height of arrogance considering Jesus COMMANDED us not to judge, even ourselves (Matthew 7:1)? We should be learning humility (Proverbs 22:4). None of us get to mark our own scorecards. That's Christ's job (John 5:22).

Why not believe God instead? Where does God tell us that there will be a "rapture" please? The truth is ALL of us will stand before God in Judgment SOON. There will be absolutely NO exceptions. So what we should really be thinking about is doing everything we can to serve God and the greater good instead of our "selves", which begins by living (by living...believing) His Perfect Law of Liberty (found in the first five books of the Bible). He told us very plainly that just before Judgment Day He would send us Elijah the prophet to remind us to return to The Law given to us for our own good (Malachi 4) or that things would continue to get worse and He would have to burn up those that refused to return to God and His Law. Christ (the Spirit-Being) while He was here in the body of Jesus 2000 years ago made it clear that NO ONE has ascended to heaven except for Him (John 3:13). Believe Christ and God instead of those who whisper the smooth sayings in your ears that there will be a rapture and that we can all continue doing what is right in our own eyes instead of what is right in God's Eyes. Please see the following scriptural explanation of the 4 Horsemen of the Apocalypse and find out who the Two Witnesses are @ http://jahtruth.net/horse for a better understanding of what is happening in these end times and why.

The above verses are the terms of our Contract/Covenant with God, also known as "The Blessings and the Curses of The Law". The blessings are for following The Law, and the curses are the penalty clause for not following The Law/keeping the Covenant. There is no doubt these are the end times and that TRUE Israel, the British and American people, are NOT living by The Law (found in the first five books of the Bible) and as a result are suffering under the penalty clause of The Law. For those of you that think you are free, think again. We have all been made slaves to debt for not following The Law, just as Father forewarned us in The Law. The sad part is most are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the beast system that they will actually fight to protect the very system that is enslaving us all. If you think that you aren't party to the Contract/Covenant with God, please read the verses below:- Deuteronomy 29:9-15 29:9 Keep therefore the words of this Covenant, and DO them, that ye may prosper in all that ye do. 29:10 Ye stand this day all of you before the "I AM" your God; your captains of your tribes, your elders, and your officers, [with] all the men of Israel, 29:11 Your little ones, your wives, and thy stranger that [is] in thy camp, from the hewer of thy wood unto the drawer of thy water: 29:12 That thou shouldest enter into Covenant with the "I AM" thy God, and into His Oath, which the "I AM" thy God maketh with thee this day: 29:13 That He may establish thee to day for a people unto Himself, and [that] He may be unto thee a God, as He hath said unto thee, and as He hath sworn unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob/Israel. 29:14 Neither with you only do I make this Covenant and this Oath; 29:15 But with [him] that standeth here with us this day before the "I AM" our God, and also with [him] that [is] not here with us this day [thy children, in PERPETUITY]: We are ALL party to the Covenant/Contract with God and we have been provided with many warnings over the past 6000 years so none of us have any excuses. For those that mistakenly think Christ came to destroy The Law, that isn't true at all. Christ told us very clearly that The Law IS STILL IN EFFECT TODAY, and will be FOREVER:- Matthew 5:17-20 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy The Law, or the Prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no way pass from The Law, till all be fulfilled. 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least COMMANDments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the Kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in the Kingdom of heaven. 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall EXCEED [the righteousness] of the lawyers and politicians, ye shall in no case enter into the Kingdom of heaven. The ONLY solution out of this mess that we have created through our disobedience to God and His Perfect Law of Liberty is to REMEMBER and return to The Law (Malachi 4). Whether people realise it or not, we are between a Rock (God's Law) and a hard place (the NWO and their population reduction agenda...please see the #1 edict on the Georgia Guidestones @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones). And if the NWO doesn't get you, the Rock will. Signs of the Times:- http://jahtruth.net/signs Peace be upon you, voiceof1

Homosexuality is against The Law (Leviticus 18:22). Christ made it perfectly clear that The Law (found in the first five books of the Bible, namely Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy) IS STILL IN EFFECT TODAY, and will be FOREVER (Matthew 5:17-18). So this really shouldn't be a difficult issue. We ought to obey God and His Perfect Law ONLY (Acts 5:29) just as we have been Commanded to do for our own individual and collective benefit.