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If they're fake then they are not memories but just thoughts.....have you seen a therapist about this? These things are best left to a professional. There is NO way you could discern blocked/unblocked memories on your own. With these experiences (since they're definitely not memories I'll call them experiences) they all feel different. Depending on when the experiences seemed to have happened they fell different. The reason I've thought they had been blocked out is because of other experiences related to main experiences that purport that I blocked them out. If I can't stop these experiences with advice from here, then I'll go to a psychology forum, and if that doesn't work I'll go to a therapist.

If these thought did not happen, then they are not memories. Can you expound more on this? God Bless, Alan These are fake memories. They definitely didn't happen, but they make themselves seem to have happened, but got blocked out, and now they make it seem like I'm un-blocking them.

I'm very sure that I haven't undergone any abuse in my life. I don't have periods of time that I don't remember.

It seems like all of these fake memories involve people who helped me give my life to Christ. It could be related to an obsession with a person that I've heard of that arises when someone helps you give your life to Christ.

I introduced myself to this forum with this message: "Hey, everybody. I used to post at the old Prophecy New Watch forums before the server crash under this username. I gave my life to Christ over a year ago and ever since then I've been digging up memories that I thought I had blocked out before I gave my life away. But recently I've realized that all or most of these events didn't happen. Please help me out here as I doubt whether all of my memories are reliable or not and for a while I even doubted whether there is a God or not. The reason I doubted the existence of God because of all of this is because I don't see how God would give me a mind that could be so unreliable." And I got this advice and put it in practice for a few days: "Every time this occurs just ask God to forgive you and cover your mind with the blood of Jesus and Know that He who is able to do the impossible has done it. The enemy has lost you and he is fighting a nasty battle in your mind where you are the weakest. Only The Father through Jesus and His blood will free you from those thoughts. To God be the glory for the love of His children - us. He has forgiven each of us so much so when you think of these things just remember to ask for forgiveness and a Jesus blood to cover you and your mind." I think this is called, "pleading the blood." It didn't work. I still dig up really believable memories that definitely probably didn't happen. I really don't think this is a demonic attack. I've heard that Satan has no access to our thoughts anymore, and therefore couldn't inject me with believable memories. I'd like for more people to give me advice about this, please. (Ideally from other one, at least.)

Joe, Worthy is not full of Messianics, there are very few of us here on this board. And I would hope you could stay around and have a place to ask questions and all. shalom, Mizz I will.

Gee whiz, a forum full of Messianics really isn't the place to discuss Calvinism! Thanks to you all for helping me think through all this. I'm a Calvinist now. It would be all right if this is the last post of this thread.

Replacement Theology was not Calvin's biggest problem, it was simply one of many. Perhaps you missed this little tidbit before, but Calvin had at least 60 people, that we know of, killed for believing differently than he did, and then having the temerity to say so. They got burned at the stake or beheaded. Killing people is definitely not one of the fruits of salvation. He had some severe problems and no one should be following his doctrine or calling him one of the "fathers" of the church. As I said before, I'll bet you guys would (and me) have Calvin (who I don't hold to be a hero, his theology has been around longer than he has) burned at the stake if you thought his theology would lead to the slaughter of millions of people. I think the reason the Israelites were commanded to kill gays was because it would/could lead to a lot of death.

It's sounds to me like you are dodging the point via diversion. How so? You responded to Yod's post. What does this have to do with what Yod mentioned? Yod thinks Calvin was poison because he was RT, but I say that RT is everywhere today and therefore not really that bad in and of itself. What it can lead to is awful, no doubt. But with the gay analogy we see that the gay would be sinning, but probably not know that he could spread an STD so far and wide that it could wipe out the whole of humanity.

Anyone of any cloth is capable of antisemitism. Replacement Theology has it's roots 100% steeped in antisemitism, so your logic is unsound. You have yet to explain why prosperity doctrine is figuring into a discussion of Calvinism. Are you sure that AS led to RT, or the other way around? I could see RT being based on a poor interpretation of scripture.

This is why most people have to come to the end of their rope or lower before they will cry out to God. But still, if we are TOTALLY (infinitely) depraved no amount of personal trauma will get us to cry out to God. By what Scripture do you consider us "TOTALLY (infinitely) depraved" in this way? The one I started the thread with. Corinthians 12:3 Therefore I want you to know that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus be cursed,” and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit. I am failing to make the connection between this verse at "total depravity". If you're so depraved that you can't make Jesus your Lord, you're pretty depraved.

All there has to be is the potential for anti-semitism in Prosperity Theology. Joe, your train of thought is lost in a fog to me. When you stated: "But the things that come out of a person’s mouth come from the heart, and these defile them." Yod replied: "Then John Calvin should be utterly disregarded. I wonder if he was even born-again since his teaching of Replacement Theology justified blatant anti-semitism.The fruit of his words were murder." Why did you bring Prosperity Theology into this? What does the Prosperity Gospel have to do with a discussion on Calvinism? I just think that RT (Replacement Theology) is rampant today in PT, far too rampant for anyone to have anti-semitism blamed on them. It's sounds to me like you are dodging the point via diversion. How so?

All there has to be is the potential for anti-semitism in Prosperity Theology. Joe, your train of thought is lost in a fog to me. When you stated: "But the things that come out of a person’s mouth come from the heart, and these defile them." Yod replied: "Then John Calvin should be utterly disregarded. I wonder if he was even born-again since his teaching of Replacement Theology justified blatant anti-semitism.The fruit of his words were murder." Why did you bring Prosperity Theology into this? What does the Prosperity Gospel have to do with a discussion on Calvinism? I just think that RT (Replacement Theology) is rampant today in PT, far too rampant for anyone to have anti-semitism blamed on them.

This is why most people have to come to the end of their rope or lower before they will cry out to God. But still, if we are TOTALLY (infinitely) depraved no amount of personal trauma will get us to cry out to God. By what Scripture do you consider us "TOTALLY (infinitely) depraved" in this way? The one I started the thread with.

Then John Calvin should be utterly disregarded. I wonder if he was even born-again since his teaching of Replacement Theology justified blatant anti-semitism.The fruit of his words were murder. Well, I think a lot of people use that theology (in that Prosperity Theology [which I don't hold to] which holds that the promise in Malachi applies to us) today. I'm not saying it's right because a lot of people do; I'm just saying that there are way to many for it to mean that they're all anti-semites. I doubt Calvin knew what he was getting into (but he was definitely wrong). Hey Joe - I am not understanding your response, especially as a response to what Yod stated. What does Propserity Theology have to do with Replacement Theology? Malachi 3:10 Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. Test me in this,” says the LORD Almighty, “and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that there will not be room enough to store it. A lot of people take this verse to be relevant to modern-day Christians (at least the Gentile ones). It's clearly a promise meant for the Jews, but they think it applies to us too. Some will even say, "We're the Jews." if you tell them that it only applied to them. I'm not sure if a lot of them say that it doesn't apply to the Jews anymore, but I wouldn't be surprised if plenty of them do. All of this is called Prosperity Theology, and it sounds to me a lot like Replacement Theology. Prosperity Theology and Replacement Theology are separate entities. While the Prosperity Theology may have utilized Replacement Theology in your example, they are still 2 entirely separate entities. All there has to be is the potential for anti-semitism in Prosperity Theology.

:blink huh? oh you are talking about my pet peeve, where they use Romans 2:29 to say they are spiritually jews. Though it is an egrious interpretational error, it's not really the same thing as saying the jews have been replaced by a religious institution run by men in Europe. But don't you see the similarities? All there has to be is the potential for anti-semitism in Prosperity Theology.

This is why most people have to come to the end of their rope or lower before they will cry out to God. But still, if we are TOTALLY (infinitely) depraved no amount of personal trauma will get us to cry out to God.

This is why most people have to come to the end of their rope or lower before they will cry out to God. Conversely, a Christian who believes "I" was predestined for faith will stick their nose in the air at having been predestined while "you" miserable sinner have not been. No, pride can infect anyone in any way with any excuse, so using the pride argument to support one theology over another isn't a valid one. Hmm, I see your point. Perhaps those people would stick their noses in the air no matter what their theological persuasion?

Then John Calvin should be utterly disregarded. I wonder if he was even born-again since his teaching of Replacement Theology justified blatant anti-semitism.The fruit of his words were murder. Well, I think a lot of people use that theology (in that Prosperity Theology [which I don't hold to] which holds that the promise in Malachi applies to us) today. I'm not saying it's right because a lot of people do; I'm just saying that there are way to many for it to mean that they're all anti-semites. I doubt Calvin knew what he was getting into (but he was definitely wrong). Hey Joe - I am not understanding your response, especially as a response to what Yod stated. What does Propserity Theology have to do with Replacement Theology? Malachi 3:10 Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. Test me in this,” says the LORD Almighty, “and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that there will not be room enough to store it. A lot of people take this verse to be relevant to modern-day Christians (at least the Gentile ones). It's clearly a promise meant for the Jews, but they think it applies to us too. Some will even say, "We're the Jews." if you tell them that it only applied to them. I'm not sure if a lot of them say that it doesn't apply to the Jews anymore, but I wouldn't be surprised if plenty of them do. All of this is called Prosperity Theology, and it sounds to me a lot like Replacement Theology.

Yes, we are able to choose. We have free will. God created time. He is completely outside of it. He knows what will happen to every single one of us from the time we are born to the time we die, and knew all this before we even existed. The fact that God knows all this and exactly what we will do does not negate the fact that we still have the free will to either choose Christ or reject Him. God is not making the choice for us, He simply knows those who will and those who will not. The pre-destination, from God's end, since he knows what our choice will be does not negate our free will. God loves everyone, but belief in Him has to be a personal choice, and not all will choose Him. But what if we're all so depraved that we will never choose God? Of course we have free will, and I hold that it's logically inconsistent to say that God's perfect foreknowledge takes away our free will. I think this idea that we can't choose God is really healthy. Some Christians will go around condemning people with their noses turned up as if they are on a higher plane of existence because they chose God.

I really do! It pretty much says right there that there's a slavery in giving your life to Christ, which probably means that that's what is meant in: Romans 12:1 Therefore, I urge you, brothers and sisters, in view of God’s mercy, to offer your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God—this is your true and proper worship. Everyone probably assumes that it is, but I don't roll that way.

But are we able to choose at all? P.S. I'm starting to think that God's criterion for deciding who to save is who would choose if they could. A lot of us give our lives to Christ around the time of a personal crisis. But, if God only saves the ones he loves we should just get saved when we're born or out of the blue one day. It makes it look like God is lying to us if he chooses to save us around the time of a personal crisis randomly. So the position that God chooses who gets saved and the position that says everyone gets to choose aren't that different if that's the criterion. (I'm very opposed to the idea that God only loves some people.)

Then John Calvin should be utterly disregarded. I wonder if he was even born-again since his teaching of Replacement Theology justified blatant anti-semitism.The fruit of his words were murder. Well, I think a lot of people use that theology (in that Prosperity Theology [which I don't hold to] which holds that the promise in Malachi applies to us) today. I'm not saying it's right because a lot of people do; I'm just saying that there are way to many for it to mean that they're all anti-semites. I doubt Calvin knew what he was getting into (but he was definitely wrong).

One who is regenerated by the Holy Spirit cannot from the heart pronounce a curse on Jesus, rather he is the only one who can from the heart confess, "Jesus is YHWH," (the Greek word used for "Lord" here). Could you fill out a little more for me how this supports "Calvinism." The implication from this verse is that someone can only do this thing that shows someone is saved: Romans 10:9 If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. with the help of the Holy Spirit. ONLY with the Holy Spirit's help. Calvinists say that no one can choose to be saved, so this idea lines up with what they say. P.S. At one point before I gave my life to Christ I stopped calling Jesus "Lord" in my prayers. But, after I gave my life to Christ I started to again, without consciously deciding to. This is what I think Romans 10:9 is talking about, with Matthew 15:18 in mind: But the things that come out of a person’s mouth come from the heart, and these defile them. not some sort of works-based salvation where you have to say those words.

I recently heard this verse put forth as support for Calvinism. It seems like this is a pretty shut case because of it. I'm seriously considering becoming a Calvinist because of it! How do people with other views deal with it? Corinthians 12:3 Therefore I want you to know that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus be cursed,” and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.