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firestormx

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  1. You have written a long and clearly well thought out defence of pretrib rapture. But I think it is important to ask a couple questions, which I will now do. When you open the word to study to show thy self approved, do you do it to confirm your opinions, disprove someone else's or just to seek his truth? What are the chances that EVERYTHING you believe is 100% correct, PERFECT, that you have nothing wrong and have made no mistakes? Have you sought christ on this, who is truth? Do you hold these views because someone told you these things, you were taught them, or because you got them striaght out of the mouth of GOD? You have listed many verse's from the word which i will not repeat, but i will make refrence of them. You are correct on many points about the end times, but I shall list a few things you have in error. I ask you prayfully take them to Christ in pray and fasting to seek his truth on the matter. For I have not gotten what I'm about to disclose from man, but right from the mouth of christ. By making that statement, I realize I have set myself up as either a liar, someone who is misguided or lastly I'm telling the truth. It could be nothing else. For Christ has taught me that my opinion is irrelevent. No man or woman of GOD in the bible ever spoke there opinion, only that which was recieved directly from GOD, so that is what I do through the holy spirit of GOD. There is no point in going through the points we agree on, but I'll start with truth. We are not appointed to wrath, but to recieve salvation through Yeshua the messiah.My question is, can you USING SCRIPTURE prove the entire 70th week of dainel is the wrath of GOD? Because I can show you it is not all the wrath of GOD. That's the important question, when does the wrath of GOD start. Joel 2:30-31 30 “And I will show wonders in the heavens and in the earth— blood and fire and pillars of smoke. 31 The sun shall be turned into darkness and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the Lord come. Mattew 24: 29-30 29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken, 30 and then shall appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of Man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and with great glory. Rev. 6:12-17 12 And I beheld when He had opened the sixth seal, and lo, there was a great earthquake, and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 13 and the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs when she is shaken by a mighty wind. 14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together, and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 16 and they said to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us, and hide us from the face of Him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb! 17 For the great Day of His wrath is come, and who shall be able to stand?” I have put these verses here to point out a very clear and simple truth that most pre trip holders never see. The verses in joel clearly state this event is BEFORE the day of gods wrath. the verses in mattew if you go there and keep reading clearing state that this is when he gathers his elect to meet him in the air. The verses in revelation clearly establish this event as the 6th seal. But stop and notice a couple things about the revelation verses. It isn't till after this event that people even realize that GODS wrath is falling. The point of the wrath of GOD at the end is not just to punish, but to try to get people to repent. Also if you keep reading in rev. chapter 7 suddenly after the sixth seal you have all these people suddenly there out of nowhere. My point is very clear and simple, Christ will not come until After the sixth seal. I look forward to reading your response, but no matter if you hold to your opinion or seek Christ's truth I pray you are blessed with a closer walk with him in the blessing and favor of the LORD YESUHA
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