Terra7

WoW ! I must say to you -Worthy chat servant - I am learning quite a bit here tonight Thank you for all these postings you have helped fill in a lot of gaps for me - I know that God was certainly wanting for me, to be here and read all this and the meanings behind them thank you for the time to write them all -well worth the read -excellent !

Yes -truly if God is the same yesterday, today and forever -then all he said will be also -Jesus said to the apostles ; you shall do more mighty things ! -The spirit is who, God- the son is who ,God -the father is who ,God . When a person`s spirit is so ready and willing and open to the holy spirit -then even to raise the dead is within the power -after all its Gods power ! When the storm was raging on the sea of Galilee and apostles awoke Jesus to save them -what did he say to them -oh you men of little faith , their spirits were not strong enough yet . Daniel was sought by the king to to explain a dream to him -Daniel`s spirit was so strong in God he but had to, asked of God to show him and God did -God knew Daniel`s love for him . Your heart felt feelings for God and the purity of your desire for Gods pleasure living your life the best you can for him in his name is the key to freeing the Holy spirit much more in your self . Yes I firmly believe in the gifts of the spirit- but in this world today there are just to many distractions that keep more people from knowing and experiencing the awesome power of the Holy spirit .

People want-evidence (hard cold data to prove) here`s what science says today ;The visible universe is only 4% (that is documented) which leaves 96% invisible so, the unseen realm holds more than the visible spectrum of light (not just particles or atoms or neutrino`s ) but even beings that are unseen . Ever watched any of the Ghost shows available today -they are beginning to catch and record images and voices of unseen entities (not saying who or what they are) my point is ;The unseen is greater and we as humans have far less knowledge of that realm then the 4% visible part of this one . Because it is not seen does not mean it does not exist (you cant see air right now around you but, you need it for life to continue) -The moral law was meant to govern the behavior of us living beings ( you or anyone does not have the right to just kill others ) as one part of a moral law -it is a code of guidance to distinguish humans from uncivilized barbaric behavior (those who live without a moral code) . All existence comes from the unseen realm and the laws the govern everything in the known universe comes from the unseen realm (can you see gravity?). Human beings are more special then they can possible imagine We live in both realms at the same time - but we all know a day will come when we leave this one -which begs the question -why were we created -the universe is saying there is meaning for itself - and you should ask the same question of your life .

The moral value of humans has changed greatly in this day and age the spirit within people no longer guide them there is to much competition for other more personal wants and desires . In the past long before , what we take for granted with the ease of today`s living-back then Gods spirit was truly sought after much more earnestly and the true knowledge of him -in today`s world (like going to the super market) there are many varieties of , how you want to believe in God or not at all -morals and integrity are a ,forgotten and discarded ingredient . Is it not hard to imagine mankind left to himself with no true moral guidance (NO) this the world written of so many thousands of years ago and to see what is to come is not difficult either of the truth that was given to people how the days would be -there here -so the Words Spoken by the prophets and by the greatest one of all -Jesus will come to pass to completion . Holiness and honor are the 2 most valued commodities that a holy God wants to see his people aspire too not selfish personal desires - that`s why marriage is of no true value because value starts with seeking the truth of your life and why you are alive -what and who created you and seeking the God who see`s all things in all places and in all people .

I do not believe the question is :is there a belief in God for anyone but, what God himself says is acceptable to him not, what we believe is acceptable for us- Jesus made clear distinctions what is acceptable to his father remember Jesus said: when you see me you see the father . Be in the world and not of it- you,your temple is supposed to be thought of and treated as a Holy object for that`s where God dwells within you and it must be revered and kept without sin, Holy unto God ! what is natural should remain so and the seed of the human race only comes from the the natural order God created -Man and Woman that is what is acceptable to God -the rest is unacceptable - God is a God of purity and Holiness that is God`s order Jesus wraps those who truly love him in his Holy righteousness to cover our sins from the father .Forgiveness of sins means -go and sin no more not continue on as if nothing has changed -the spirit man is now doing battle with the natural man - finding Jesus in your heart and accepting his gift of forgiveness means you join with him in that battle waging war against your own flesh not make compromises with it -your spirit man comes first your attention is on him and you must strengthen him with Gods Holiness . Jesus went 40 days in the desert to purge the flesh and cleanse and strengthen his spirit to walk in the spirit with the father -Jesus chose to do that -it was a choice, not a compromise . Following Jesus is not a casual choice it is an agreement, a Holy one to adhere to His Fathers desires for his acceptance, it is not a debatable life style -you either agree or you do not - you are either for me or against me That is What the Lord himself says ,not me -and I agree with him !

I am and always have been a person of truth and integrity - in my honest and even hopeful opinion there is no coming back from where America is heading,and this has been desired by the elite of the world those who serve Lucifer . America did have a chance in the past to avoid this but there were not enough people of faith in the midst of Govt to prevent all that is from unfolding . People of faith are to divided on to many issues which has made the whole body of believers, ineffective to stem the tide of corruption which has taken full control today. Countless warnings were given over the course of 250 yrs to hold this system in check and those warning went unheeded so as our land of freedom is dying ever faster from within I am resigned to reality that end is approaching and are ,way past the point of no return . Obama is the ultimate demonstration of tyranny and no part of congress or the justice dept or the supreme court are willing to demand his reign of terror be opposed and he flagrantly insults with such voracity in under cutting all the rights given to this country by the founding fathers - I am astounded that congress as a whole is giving this fraudulent illegal person( who I still do not consider to be president )the power to dis-mantel our republic of democracy . I make this prediction before the election is held those who have brought Obama to power and Obama himself have one more trick up their sleeve it will be a false emergency to suspend the election indefinitely which will give the anti Christ Obama the last card to play (as instructed by Lucifer) to suspend all civil rights and declare marshal law upon the citizens . Then I would hope that real people of all ethnic backgrounds who call themselves ;Americans will finally say in one voice :enough and fight once again to save freedom or watch it die forever - The people can win if they want it bad enough to do so ,I would gladly die to fight for it- it is a God given right to all men, in all nations to be free -without freedom this life has no meaning and never will !

I totally agree with all you have said and completely understand why Jesus spoke much concerning this material life not to cast your desires upon it when you do ;you become consumed by it and all the attention it requires of you to maintain it -ever consuming more of your resources daily to keep up with it (thats Satan little trick to whisper -you need more for happiness and to be complete) .The seductive ways of simple little words and who uses them better than; Satan -Like- you deserve -you have worked hard ,why not,its not going to hurt no one so ,go ahead- or even -God would want you to have it its your blessing . He can twist every single concept for peoples destruction and lead them to believe they are innocent and have done nothing wrong . When in the very end you alone are facing the true outcome and not knowing the truth of what the real price will be your eternal place in heaven or hell . From our stand point from the distant future of the John the baptist most people of his day thought, he was a nut and uncivilized living the way he did and proclaiming this one God thing and the one who was to come - But here we are 2000 yrs later would you, call him a nut today or would you be able to live like him in this day and age and forsake all this system to day to live holy unto God -could you do it -No, most people could not - because the desires of this world are a trap designed to catch you and hold you prisoner to them and ultimately prisoner of Satan . Its hard to say ,no to your self is it not -yes it is and you mind and feelings is satan`s way in, through people -guard your heart and mind with all diligence, simple phrase yet- means so very much .

My sentiments exactly -Virtue -integrity -honor and humbleness are qualities that are almost gone from people - in this realm of measured time there is a threshing of the spirit realm under way -which is showing itself in peoples unrestrained words and attitudes because they ,believe they know the root cause of a given situation . I always think in 3 dimensions because they are all connected -a fabric sown together - and the unseen is greater and in more control than the seen - God says :come, lets reason this out together . Remember ,the fallen one is pressed for time so he is about his business to corrupt on a grand scale today and the pressure on people is mounting rapidly .

The Hebrews before the birth of Christ were praying for the savior the Messiah for the most part they wanted an end to Roman control of their land and to be free (would you agree?) . When he came and was becoming known and healing the sick and gaining the following of his chosen apostles fulfilling his destiny to the point of many proclaiming him as King then his presence was becoming a threat to Rome and the Religious leaders . The people wanted Jesus to eliminate the oppressors from the land and set them free -did he - He came for a greater reason which many did not understand . Does God answer prayers of unbelievers -Yes - The story of Daniel is a perfect example ,the king wanted a dream interpreted so Daniel fulfilled the kings desire but in the end Gods point for the was to show the King who was Greater not man but The Holy one God is - David and Goliath - Abraham - people tend to forget that, all people belong to God - and he will use anything or anyone for his ultimate purpose . God does not answer all of my prayers but I still believe he cares for me even unto my death -I believe !

Yes -it has become that she has turned her face from God many yrs ago - consider the beginning of this country and the hopes for those who came here -to worship God in honesty and dignity a land in which to do that, and govern themselves according the biblical principles . Today you can see very easily the contrast -so how does God deal with evil and those commit it so willfully- he changes the course of history and brings destruction even unto the whole world . Humans will not apply themselves to correction so it must be done for them as a parent must correct their child -the problem always is as generations multiply they move further away from Gods will and forget to soon and no longer regard the past with reverence . This is where America stands today remember this is the future we are living in it -its not dream anymore from the past its reality in time now - and God has given all the human race time to learn he has been silent and let the human race have their way (are they making it better ?) or just a faster way to die for everyone and casting off Gods holy sacrifice -Jesus !

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Hi Terra -

I know it is difficult to find love expressed in the midst of debate. The internet is horrible at communication in that there is no body language associated with what one says. Sometimes a person has a different expression and tone of voice in their writing than the receiver perceives them to have. And of course, without seeing the person it is a lot easier to see words as impersonal thoughts rather than a human being. I am still working out how to consider "this is a person" I am responding to and not "an idea I have problems with".

So why can we not agree? We all come from different backgrounds with different root groundings. It is a crazy mess how 4 people can look at the same Scripture and come up with 4 different ways to understand that Scripture.

As an aside on that note, I am wondering about something you said:

Peter woke up and saw his coat was stolen in the night and said to Jesus ;my coat was stolen by a thief and you all know what Jesus said ;go find that thief and give him anything else he wishes for he is of poor spirit and lives in darkness.

I have not seen this written in Scripture anywhere. I know Peter asked about how many times should he forgive, but I do not recall any mention of him having had his coat stolen.

I also recall where Jesus said, "if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well." (Matt. 5:40)

Note, I'm not saying you were not applying the Scripture properly, nor am I not claiming the Lord didn't speak to you.

Actually, I commend you highly for having the grace to let go this way rather than to take revenge.

And you are correct in that the Body of Christ does not do enough to encourage love like this. And I, too, wish it were done more.

Blessings and grace to you!

Matthew 5:40 - sorry I have watched the movie: The Greatest Story ever Told -a little to much its a scene in that movie please forgive -Terra

Many of us here have scars that we have encountered in our life, both while unsaved and after being saved.

It is unfortunate that we Christians do not reflect our Lord as He would have us do. I pray you not become so discouraged.

Simply walk your life out as if walking with our Lord, because you are doing just that.

No, I will give it another try here Thank you for wanting me to stay Because I do forgive and its nice the other way too!

Yes Thank you for words and your understanding and my sorrow for your situation which was not right against you - If there is anything I have always known No one escapes justice because God holds it in his hands , I am 52 yrs old and a veteran Joined the Navy in 1978 - so I have been around the block a few times- These times are very trying especially in light of the state affairs of our country and political and fiscal back stabbing going on from those who have no remorse or conscience what they are doing to truly virtuous and hard working people . Thank You who ever you are -Peace Terra

Yes I do understand and I know others do also.

I hope you stick around because I think you will find lots of great people to talk to and yeah, sometimes there are sticky discussions, but it would be like that anywhere...

Anyway, lots of Jesus' love to you and I am glad if anything I wrote helped you at all

Yes you have - and I do mean Thank You -Terra

For me ,I have always desired to listen only to the scriptures pertaining to Jesus and his words alone (it cuts through the confusion of understanding Gods message) .

You know I have been put through a scriptural test in the last 2 yrs and everyone should know this one: Peter woke up and saw his coat was stolen in the night and said to Jesus ;my coat was stolen by a thief and you all know what Jesus said ;go find that thief and give him anything else he wishes for he is of poor spirit and lives in darkness.

I've read through the scriptures a few times and can't seem to remember reading this. Would you please refresh my memory and provide the location of that verse.

Thanks.

I could be wrong But I believe its found in John.... Not a hundred percent though(sorry) Hope this very little input helps lol

Matthew 5:40 -My mistake I have watched the movie The Greatest Story Ever Told around 100 times and well I forgot the real scripture verse -Forgive -Terra

For me ,I have always desired to listen only to the scriptures pertaining to Jesus and his words alone (it cuts through the confusion of understanding Gods message) .

You know I have been put through a scriptural test in the last 2 yrs and everyone should know this one: Peter woke up and saw his coat was stolen in the night and said to Jesus ;my coat was stolen by a thief and you all know what Jesus said ;go find that thief and give him anything else he wishes for he is of poor spirit and lives in darkness.

I've read through the scriptures a few times and can't seem to remember reading this. Would you please refresh my memory and provide the location of that verse.

Thanks.

Sorry its Matthew 5:40 - just watched the movie to much: The Greatest Story Ever Told - I love that movie -theres a scene in the movie where Peter has his coat stolen and Jesus tells what I wrote - My mistake -an honest one -please forgive -Terra

Terra7...Thank you!!! So beautifully put...If I could reach you through this machine...I'd give you a big hug...I've always been known as the "hugger"...That's not to toot my own horn...It's to give God All The Glory For Saving a Wretch Like Me...Deep down I'm a peacemaker and that's that...and it's been hard too...I've not come to talk anybody into believing the way I do...I personally didn't know why I came to this site...and still don't...but I will because I believe it will be revealed...I was lead here and once or twice I did try to share what has happened and what I believed and got jumped on...but I got up...shook myself off...and loved them anyway...and tried to understand why it happened...again Seeking The Lord for answers... (one answer is: Well don't take it so personal...well I'm still a person...) see that same person has responded to this post and responded in a way that I wondered if they were capable of...God showed me their heart...and it was good...so I am Thanking You for being bold!!! I have obtained an answer because of it and I love you to literally pieces!!! Hahaha...I know the Bible says we don't jest around (well here we go again-I might get jumped on for not being totally accurate...I just read the scripture and can't remember where it is...right now) See I don't worry about little things anymore...Anyway back to hugging you to pieces...Love to you In Him...Jesus Our Lord...I'm going through some things where I don't have much contact with other Christians except for here...

Well Honey Bless your ever loving Spirit( I am sorry for I did not mean to vent the way I did but I just had enough) Knowledge and correction should be used with, kindness and consideration because we all are stumbling through life Amen- I was just asking a simple question -a dream question only because my heart still goes to those who choose badly and find themselves in Hell (you know what I mean?) . I felt like I was being reproached on a simple question and that was enough for me I came here to find real people not be corrected . I am amazed by your reply Thank you most graciously you are to kind and yes, I am as real as it gets no baloney in me - I see your a Florida resident ,I was for 17 yrs Sarasota but I missed the seasons and made it Back home to Pittsburgh Pa kinda sorry I did to many very bad things have happened to me . Well would love to chat more with you and Thank You again -truly a new friend yours -Terra

Great Post... I suggest you also start a topic in the Testimony forum because I see your a true person of God and have gone through many leeps and bounds to where you are today. I dont know about anyone else but reading testimonys and seeing what God has done for people puts a grin on my face.

Blessings..

You said that about me Jacob , I am so very touched by your words you cant imagine how it does make me feel Good inside ,A heart felt THANK YOU -Yes Jacob, I have a testimony and one I would love to share that is so very true because you see I did die in 1981 and I did see our Father - I have had 7 different in your face times with God that left me speechless ! THANK YOU MY BROTHER - AND LOVE UNTO YOU -Terra

Hi Terra -

I know it is difficult to find love expressed in the midst of debate. The internet is horrible at communication in that there is no body language associated with what one says. Sometimes a person has a different expression and tone of voice in their writing than the receiver perceives them to have. And of course, without seeing the person it is a lot easier to see words as impersonal thoughts rather than a human being. I am still working out how to consider "this is a person" I am responding to and not "an idea I have problems with".

So why can we not agree? We all come from different backgrounds with different root groundings. It is a crazy mess how 4 people can look at the same Scripture and come up with 4 different ways to understand that Scripture.

As an aside on that note, I am wondering about something you said:

Peter woke up and saw his coat was stolen in the night and said to Jesus ;my coat was stolen by a thief and you all know what Jesus said ;go find that thief and give him anything else he wishes for he is of poor spirit and lives in darkness.

I have not seen this written in Scripture anywhere. I know Peter asked about how many times should he forgive, but I do not recall any mention of him having had his coat stolen.

I also recall where Jesus said, "if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well." (Matt. 5:40)

Note, I'm not saying you were not applying the Scripture properly, nor am I not claiming the Lord didn't speak to you.

Actually, I commend you highly for having the grace to let go this way rather than to take revenge.

And you are correct in that the Body of Christ does not do enough to encourage love like this. And I, too, wish it were done more.

Blessings and grace to you!

Yes you are correct it was Matthew-5:40 I have watched the movie :The Greatest Story Ever Told -too many times because in that movie was a scene the first 4 apostles(John,Andrew,Peter and Judas ) and Jesus the first night on the road the next morning peter woke and his coat was gone-Sorry I just love that movie - No I did not learn the Bible from that movie - I learned by reading . Thank You so very much for kind words and real empathy to me Yes I never did like this way of communicating its just to cold and empty and gives wolves more ability to hurt others - My dream is to cook a great feast in Heaven for all those there especially our redeemer and King Jesus and thy Heavenly Father and be in awe of them -Amen Yes a Holy Amen!

I am so tired of looking for real people of God that this will be the last attempt at dealing with the internet to find them (theres to much animosity of Bible correction from to many people who have never seen the real meaning of Gods message of Forgiveness ) . That is why I said : I Dont know Why I bother ?

Well, you know, things need to start with the individual.

How many people would lose their mind if that happened to them -yes it hurts very badly but I will stand on the truth of The Lords words and have forgiveness for that person even though it has basically erased my life

I am sorry this event happened to you.

How many of you if put to any of Gods tests would truly make it or would you hate him or curse him -does not God own it all including your very life ? I have faith in him and know what is coming ,His word ,His son ,His righteous -HIS GLORY!!! Peace Terra

Many people have been tested Terra...I certainly have. And it may comfort you to know that I have lost everything also. Not recently, but a number of years ago.

It was all stolen from me by someone I trusted...another Christian supposedly and a close relative...and they lied about me, betrayed me, and caused me to loose

my home, my father, my brother and my sister-in-law with their lies and deceit.

Well, it was very difficult, and I spent some years banging my head against a wall and wondering where God had gone and how He could have let

these horrible things happen to me...especially being accused of things I did not do and being made to look like a liar and a thief.

We have to ask ourselves some very hard questions and pour out our hearts to God...as the Psalms say.....God does not do these cruel things to

us but these things happen because of sin and the sinful attitudes of people..and very sadly, sometimes Christians..or at least those who say they

are Christians.

Well things were restored to me and God answers pray...He knows I did not do the things I have been accused of and He knows that I hurt so much

that I could not pray for years. Yes, those things can happen....but, it is no longer that way and one can only stand back and watch how God

deals with those who have done the awful things they did to me and my father.

I am only writing this to let you know that you are not alone and that sometimes some pretty awful things can happen to people even when

they are trusting God. I have not hated or cursed God but I have been pretty upset with Him wondering how He could have allowed these

people to do what they did.

Eventually, God will deal with them...and in fact, that is happening now. We can only search our own hearts and be open and honest

before God because He knows everything already. He can and He wants to help us through the most difficult of situations.

I understand it can hurt....and when you are in the middle of it, it makes no sense. But one day you might look back on all of this

and be surprised at much you have learned and grown in the Lord.

Yes Thank you for words and your understanding and my sorrow for your situation which was not right against you - If there is anything I have always known No one escapes justice because God holds it in his hands , I am 52 yrs old and a veteran Joined the Navy in 1978 - so I have been around the block a few times- These times are very trying especially in light of the state affairs of our country and political and fiscal back stabbing going on from those who have no remorse or conscience what they are doing to truly virtuous and hard working people . Thank You who ever you are -Peace Terra

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I happen to know with out a doubt from very close people involved

What do you mean by "people involved?

What people? What are they involved in?

I am only trying to say that to be ready is much better than not - Jesus refers to the days of Noah that sudden destruction came while all were making fun of Noah building the ark ,then they believed but it was too late they had chosen to not believe before hand . is a warning not better than to be blind -history is teaching and people do not want to believe what came before us - and 3 days of darkness shall befall them - many places in the Holy word God is speaking about what is coming if you believe in Him then believe what he can do - I will not say more .