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Since I can't have chocolate I am enjoying a nice hot cup of white hot chocolate with whipped cream on this very cold day. 11 degrees tonight.
Very strange.
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Just now, TheBlade said:
Very well said. "grounded in the true literal Christian faith".
Thank you
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42 minutes ago, Starise said:
Yeah, I think I'm done after these two. I can buy eggs pretty reasonably, and I'm buying eggs now anyways lol.
Worked with a man once who had chickens. He would bring the eggs to work and people would buy them. I bought a dozen one time. They were just ok. Different colors and different sizes. They did not work well for baking because some were quite small. I have found that the darker the yolk the better quality and taste of the egg. I am an egg snob. I buy the expensive eggs that the chickens are free range and there are no hormones or antibiotics. I love eggs but want a quality egg.
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35 minutes ago, Vine Abider said:
Good. However, I don't see anything in that article saying we now identify as sinners, just that once we're reborn we sometimes still sin. That is except for the first sentence, "Christians are both sinners and saints," which is wrong.
Our old man was crucified with Christ and now we are glorified as per Romans 8:30, "And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified."
Suit yourself.
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2 hours ago, Vine Abider said:
Sure I saw it, but saying we are still identified as sinners is contrary to the new covenant. We still sin of course, but that's not who God created us in Christ - we are a new creation, a brand new man, old things have past away, we are born again, the righteousness of God in Him, glorified, etc. & etc. There are verses that speak to all those identifying marks as a brand new creation of God, as you are most likely aware.
We get trapped into thinking that just because we may still sin from time to time, that who we are is still just remaining an old sinner person. Not true - regenerated ones are a brand new creation - according to Him and His apostles.
Are Christians sinners, saints, or both?
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Christians are both sinners and saints. All human beings are sinners because we are born in sin. But not all humans are saints. According to the Bible, a saint is not someone who has done wonderful things, nor is it someone who has been deemed a saint by a church or organization. The word translated “saint” in the New Testament, hagios, literally means “sacred, physically pure; morally blameless or religious; ceremonially consecrated; holy.” In the context of New Testament passages, saints are those who belong to the body of Christ, saved by grace through faith (Ephesians 2:8–9). In other words, saint is another word for a Christian, a true believer in the Lord Jesus Christ.
It is a clear biblical truth that all are born in sin and all have a sin nature. Scripture says that God created humankind originally good and without a sin nature: "Then God said, ‘Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness.’ . . . God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them” (Genesis 1:26–27). However, Genesis 3 records the fall of Adam and Eve, and with that fall sin entered into the two previously sinless creatures. And when they had children, their sin nature was passed along to their offspring. Thus, every human being is a sinner.Saints, on the other hand, are not born saints; they become saints by being reborn. Because we have all “sinned and fallen short of the glory of God” (Romans 3:23), we are all in need of spiritual rebirth, without which we will continue in our sinful state throughout eternity. But God, in His great mercy and grace, has provided the (only) means for turning a sinner into a saint—the Lord Jesus Christ, who came “to give His life as a ransom for many.” When we confess our need for a Savior from sin and accept His sacrifice on the cross on our behalf, we become saints.There is no hierarchy of saints. All who belong to Christ by faith are saints, and none of us are more “saintly” than our Christian brothers and sisters. The apostle Paul, who is no more of a saint than the most obscure Christian, begins his first letter to the Corinthian church by declaring that they were “sanctified in Christ Jesus and called to be saints, together with all those who in every place call upon the name of our Lord Jesus Christ” (1 Corinthians 1:2, emphasis added). In this verse, hagios is translated “saints,” “holy,” and “sanctified” in different Bible versions, leading to the unmistakable conclusion that all who have ever called upon Christ for salvation are saints, made holy by the Lord. We are all “fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God” (Ephesians 2:19).We are not saints because we have been declared to be saints by a church, nor can we work our way to sainthood. Once we are saved by faith, however, we are called to certain actions befitting our calling as saints of God. “But just as he who called you is holy, so be holy in all you do; for it is written: ‘Be holy, because I am holy’” (1 Peter 1:15–16). Saints are not sinless, but the lives of saints do reflect the reality of the presence of Christ in our hearts, in whom we “live and move and have our being” (Acts 17:28). -
1 hour ago, Vine Abider said:
Of course yer saved . . . yer just sinning.
The word does not say we are identified as sinners after we are regenerated, rather we are saints who sometimes sin.
You saw the verse I posted. Yes, we are sinners.
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33 minutes ago, other one said:
If you are sinning, are you really saved??
We are all sinners oo. You and me and everyone.
1 John 1:8
If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins past, present and future. We will not be perfect until we get to heaven.
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9 minutes ago, Daniel Marsh said:
I have a problem I need help with
On Nov 15th, I purchased a Amazon Gift Card from Kroger for $300 cash to use for Christmas shopping.
As you know I had Shoulder surgery on the 23rd. The card and receipt got lost. The local Kroger is staffed at %50. They will not even print the receipt. The phone customer service for both companies is a nightmare. Both use foreign countries that speaks very poor English. In fact, both use boiler rooms full of people and one can not even hear the person speaking to you. I am trapped in their maze of poor Customer Service. Today I sent both CEO's an email. Amazon replied and said it is Kroger's responsiblity by contract to issue a new gift card. Kroger refuses to take responsibility.If you lost it I am afraid you are out of $300.00.
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On 12/20/2022 at 3:59 PM, com7fy8 said:
Well, perhaps Mije means, what can keep us from praying the way we ought for our children?
So, Mije might not mean what could hinder a certain prayer we are saying, but what can hinder how in general we pray.
Arguing can hinder a person. So can complaining. We need to stay in shape, spiritually, by not getting into nasty and negative stuff, but be patient and kind and gentle and sensitive in our relating. And this can help us to pray well, I would say.
Worrying can be a problem so we are not praying the way we should. Start with trust for God, and being encouraged. And perhaps pray for God to make us more real and stronger in His way of loving. And our good example can help our children; so if we pray for how we need to become good examples for our children . . . this prayer for ourselves might be prayer that also will result in good for our children!
And spend time with your children, so your voice means something to them. You say something, something good happens. You talk with them and they find themselves being loved and given attention but also helpful guiding. Then, with age, possibly your voice will mean something to them . . . if they have not been left with peers to play with and games and toys to babysit them. I suspect children have been brought up left out of things Mom and Dad are doing, including for chores. And then when they are told in later years to do some chore, it can seem like they are being isolated, put on a sort of time out. They were told "no", when they tried to help Mommy and Daddy while they were younger, and the "no" could later be what they are hearing inside themselves when being told to do something . . . something they had so desired to do, once, when they so wanted to be with Mommy and Daddy, but were told "no".
Maybe pray together, talk about what we need to pray about, then you can know what to pray . . . with your children and spouse.
You would not want to pray for what is God's will for your child. You should pray that God's will be done for His Glory.
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2 hours ago, kwikphilly said:
The same folks that complain are going to continue to no matter what,can we put on the brakes & see how it all goes with the latest changes?
Can't please everyone but that not what we aim for anyway,so complainers complain and supporters support & nothing really changes that much,does it?
It takes every single member to make a Ministry OR as some insist on calling this Worthy Ministry" a message board" lol
Be the very best Representative of Jesus YOU(& I) can be and we can make WCF that wonderful place for us all to be!
George is always trying different things,it's not carved in stone- give it a chance🙏
We need to pray for Worthy.
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3 hours ago, Ocean said:
Interesting
I left a forum about three weeks ago that desperately needs moderators. The name calling, judging and arguing are over the top and it seems they have few moderators and even when you report something, you never know what will happen even if the post is way out of line.
I left because the atmosphere has become really toxic with members snarling at each other and some following members around and harassing them and no one needs that. It's hardly Christian anymore IMO!
It wasn't that way when I joined some years back and I know they had more moderators and people just viewing complaints to see if the post needed further action. It's too bad when that happens. I'm not necessarily saying I'm a model poster but I think the best members have left and others are following suit.
I don't think that forum can be sustained much longer the way it is.
You can't even start a post about praising God or ways you are thankful to Him without someone criticizing it or what someone posts...not exaggerating.
One of the ways Christians should be known, as Jesus tells it, is by their love.
If people cannot moderate themselves, then bring on the mods!
That is what happens when you do not have enough supervision on a Christian message board.
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12 minutes ago, Jayne said:
@George,
Your board. Your rules. You said you have now about 50 moderators. Most who cannot edit. Now you add 27 or so others who also have no editing permission.
All I want as a member here is at least 5-8 who can edit at will the following:
- profanity
- blasphemy
- sock puppets [of which we now have two in my hard-hearted opinion]
As I said, your board. Your rules.
Have a blessed day.
There is nothing worse than to come to a Christian message board and see a lot of false doctrine and mocking of God and worldly topics. How are the new Christians to learn the true Word of God if all of this is going on? It makes a Christian message board a travesty. But God knows all the hearts that are governing and behind this board. That is what is most important.
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1 hour ago, OneLight said:
Yes, the storm that is beginning and will last until Christmas, is supposed to become very dangerous with the sub zero temps and winds as high as 50mph ... what a wind chill factor that will create. It will cover the US from the Mexican border to the Canadian border and move North by Northeast over the great lakes. If all you do get rain, be on the watch for the ice when the temps drop below freezing. Be warm and safe! If it is all snow, watch yourselves as you shovel. Frostbite is dangerous.
We are expecting night time temps to get down to 12 and 13 degrees tomorrow night and Thursday night. I thought NOAA was posting an error but maybe not. I do not remember it ever getting that cold here.
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I don't know what they are up to but God does. That is good enough for me.
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I person will not know until they get there. I have seen all kind of speculation but that is all it is.
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1 hour ago, George said:
Honestly, I generally have people of different denominational backgrounds who often disagree with me as oversight. For example, Omegaman had his views which had some Calvinistic tendencies and I myself am not of the persuasion. But that never stopped us working together in ministry. At one point, I had almost every denominational background in the Moderation team. AoG, Church of God, Baptist, Messianic, a follower of Watchman Nee (house group based on Watchman Nee), someone who attended a Non-Denominational Church who came out of Mormonism, a former Catholic who attended a Wesleyan Church ... I always believed that we could somehow get all the "denominations" focused on Jesus ... we could make it work! I do not believe in Ecumenicalism which is the unification for the sake of doctrine, but rather unity in the fundamentals of the faith that makes it all work! The Moravian Revival was like this ... lots of different backgrounds with people who didn't agree on many things, but they came to an understanding ... "In ESSENTIALS -- UNITY -- In Non-Essentials -- LIBERTY -- in ALL THINGS LOVE!"
Be blessed,
George
I don't agree because I think a person who is moderating and supervising a Christian message board should be very well grounded in the true literal Christian faith. Someone who will not compromise or water down the literal true Word of God. That is my Christian perspective. That is the only way they can shepherd those who come to a Christian messageboard. It is your choice as the owner of Worthy how to run it.
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1 hour ago, Starise said:
The company that made the film is Christian owned.
If I was going to be critical of anything, I would only say that there is a scene where one of the characters takes communion and later on we read what she wrote in her diary about her experience. I don't think her conversion to Christ was as apparent as it could have been. I'm being picky I know.
You are not being picky. Is there such a thing with true Christianity?
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On 12/18/2022 at 12:57 PM, debrakay said:
A New Christmas (by DebraKay)
Tis the week before Christmas
There’s no sign of a mouse
There are twinkling lights and a tree
Inside and outside of the houseHoliday decorations are fewer this season
Many are packed as it’s been a tough year
My sweetheart is missing
Though his presence is nearThe wood stove is crackling
As the rain starts to fall
Tis the sign of the season
Of winter and all.I think of past Christmases
Of shopping and wrapping
All of those things
That kept me from napping.I think of the hustle,
The bustle, the fret,
When I should have been thinking
Of the love when we metOf the times and the reasons
Of life held so dear,
With always new seasons
Heartfelt memories with tears.With Christ at the helm
Of life here on earth
Tis the reason for Christmas
The season of birthTo family and friends
Holding loved ones so close
Be sure to express
Your heart and love mostFor a new year is coming
Of which we have no insight
Just knowing the love of our Lord
Will once again bring Christmas delightHappy Christmas to all
For a blessed, holy night!Nice. This will be a difficult Christmas for you. God is with you.
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25 minutes ago, Starise said:
I highly recommend the movie- I Heard The Bells in theatres now.
It was shot right here in my area by a local company. If you wait until the end of the credits you get a behind the scenes look at production.
I read the review for this movie. It looks like it may be a good one for those who view movies.
Meanwhile the core story—one little known today—carries this film. Longfellow’s journey from joy to grief to rekindled hope is a powerful one—and embodied by the poem that inspired the movie itself.
Then pealed the bells more loud and deep:
“God is not dead, nor doth He sleep;
The Wrong shall fail,
The Right prevail,
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What is the difference between “you shall not murder” and “you shall not kill”?
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The King James Version (KJV) of the Bible renders the sixth commandment in Exodus 20:13 and Deuteronomy 5:17 as “Thou shalt not kill.” This wording gives the impression that it is always wrong to take a human life, with no exceptions. It is a wrong impression, for the Bible elsewhere allows for the execution of certain criminals (Genesis 9:6) and killing in the context of warfare (1 Chronicles 19:18). So the command “Thou shalt not kill” cannot be taken in an absolute sense.
In fact, the KJV’s wording of “Thou shalt not kill” is needlessly broad and inexact to the point of impairing clarity. Nearly all modern translations, including the New King James Bible, correctly render the original Hebrew wording as “You shall not murder” (NIV) or “Do not murder” (CSB). The Amplified Bible words it this way: “You shall not commit murder (unjustified, deliberate homicide).”
The Old Testament uses over half a dozen different Hebrew words for the taking of a human life. In Exodus 20:13, the Hebrew word used is rasah, which means “murder.” It is the same word that the KJV correctly renders elsewhere as “murder” or “murderer,” including all eleven times that rasah appears in Numbers 35:17–31. Oddly, when they came to the sixth commandment, the KJV translators chose to translate the word as “kill” instead of “murder.” “Thou shalt not kill” is an incorrect and inconsistent translation.
That mistranslation has created needless confusion and personal, moral conflict for centuries. Christians have debated with each other—and struggled in their own minds—over whether to serve in the military during war time, to use deadly force as a police officer, or even to protect their own families from homicidal attacks. It’s unfortunately true that protecting a nation, protecting society, and protecting loved ones sometimes require killing, but that is different from murder. The command “Do not murder” does not apply to justified killing in the course of one’s duty.
The mistranslation of Exodus 20:13 has also caused believers and skeptics alike to question the reliability of the Bible and the character and justness of God. After all, after commanding the Israelites not to “kill” anyone, God orders them to kill criminals for capital crimes (Exodus 21:12–29), Israelites who worshipped the gods of Moab (Numbers 25:1–8), all Midianite males and non-virgin females (Numbers 31:1–18), and the pagan societies of Canaan (Deuteronomy 2:30–36; Joshua 6; 1 Samuel 15:1–3). Capital punishment for the crime of murder was, in fact, the first commandment God gave to Noah after the flood (Genesis 9:6).
Plainly, the Bible distinguishes between a justified killing and murder, that is, unlawful (not legally justified) homicide in which the perpetrator intentionally kills another person. The penal codes of nations around the world have historically held a similar distinction. So what God forbids in the Ten Commandments is murder, specifically, not killing, in general. -
The Bible doesn't say that there were only three wise men. There could have been more.
The wise men did not visit Jesus at the manger. They came months or even a year after Jesus was born.
The star of Bethlehem was referred to as "his star" since it was a sign to the Magi that Jesus the King was born.
The Star of Bethlehem was not an ordinary star. Perhaps it was an angel or it could have been a manifestation of Shekinah Glory. It means "dwelling of God". Prior to this the most notable appearance of the Shekinah was the pillar of cloud that led the Israelites by day and by night.
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Yawning
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It is ok if you yawn when you pray. God understands. I have fallen asleep in the middle of my prayers but what a way to end your day
With Christ.