Dionysus

I got a snow goose earlier this year and a few ducks. So my freezer has some meals sitting in there waiting to be made. Hadn't had the chance to hit up some pheasants yet. I haven’t tried hunting turkey. It looks like a good time to set up a decoy or two then call em in. I hear you have to hit them with head shots. Is that true? Haven't bothered with deer out here. They have a lottery and I don’t feel right taking one of the few tickets. I imagine some kid could use my ticket while hunting with his dad or something. Besides that is way too much meat for just the wife and I.

I would +1 this if I could.

I can see how what I wrote would lead one to believe I meant killing people. That is my bad for not being clear. When it comes to self defense at home my philosophy is that if someone enters my house and I am not in the room were the gun is located it is basically worthless. Maybe I can get to it maybe not. I have a few years worth of MMA training so I am quite confident in using self defense in non lethal means. Not that I am claiming I can disarm an armed intruder Steve Seagal style. If my hands are not enough and they aren’t scared away by the Mossberg I have some #2 steel shot for them or a tv they can leave with that I am sure they will enjoy. I get what you are saying. I am a guitar lover and I enjoy playing them and collecting them. Lol I suppose I could start a fire with one but that would be heart breaking! I guess Jimi did it once... The main purpose of a guitar is to play it. I can collect them and use them as decorations (hobby) or maybe be like the Honkey Tonk Man (old WWF wrestler) and smash people over the head with them. Although when you use the word practical I don’t think collecting and decorating fits that bill. Maybe I am wrong because if it make you happy it serves a purpose... I dunno. Have you enjoyed duck season? Are you going after any pheasants? Deer season just opened are you headed out for any of those?

"Jesus’ sacrifice paid the price ( was propitiatory ) for our sins but the curse isn’t lifted until the Creation is restored in the new Earth. Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. Rev 22:3-4 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him: (4) And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads." Thank you for your response! It makes more since now that I have the puzzle piece in revelations. So the "reward" of sacrificing Jesus hasn’t kicked in yet?

"Well, you named a few already. I spend a lot of time in the woods and there are predators in my area such as cougars and bears-and a rifle can be a burden if your hiking, especially if you have kids with you, a handgun is far less bulky and easier to control. There are even a small group of hardcore hunters that use them to hunt. They're great for shooting varmints on a ranch or farm if you don't feel like lugging a rifle with you. A .45 will eliminate a coyote just as fast as a 30-30. And of course there's self defense." 4 out of 6 are for killing things. That is a creative way to start a fire I wouldn’t have thought of it. Why is there often resistance when someone states that guns are meant to kill things? I am assuming that you don’t have an issue with killing things so why the scramble to claim guns are a multi tool? I am well aware that my Mossberg is good for shooting ducks and geese, maybe home defense, and I can use the slug barrel for deer but that’s about it. Although I suppose I have just learned to start a fire with it. And it also makes for a 12 pound club/paper weight. "Believe it or not shooting handguns is a lot different then rifles, just because you can hit a target with a rifle doesn't mean you can with a handgun." I am one of those people. I qualified on the M9 but it was ugly. That first round took some getting used to.

What are those uses? Defense against predator animals while hunting... and... opening windows and target shooting? I am not against guns or handguns but I can't think of any practical uses for handguns other than killing things.

"LoL I know prior military that i wont hunt with because they are not safe gun owners." Lol I know a few of those too! "btw just because you have a gun doesn't mean you have to kill someone with it. just stop them in what they are doing and make getting to a doctor more important than mugging you..... if the person is attempting to take your life is a totally different thing." I understand what you are saying but the ultimate purpose in using a gun for self defense is to put bullets into a person. I understand the concept of deterrence but to quote Skynyrd "hand guns are made for killin they aint no good for nothing else" maiming someone isn’t a much kinder act. If someone wants to take your life however you and I agree 100%. "the problem with non lethal weapons is that they are either very close range, or very expensive and can be problematic with batteries." Would you agree that the problem with lethal weapons is that they can be problematic with incompetence? "when you get into your mid 60's and past you don't wield ball bats nearly as effective as when your in your 20's. if you shot me with pepper spray I'd find a way to kick your backside blind." Lol I gotcha. That said if you were trying to harm me and I had to pepper spray you, why would I stick around and allow you to recover? Why engage that situation further? Is there a need to upscale the use of force in self defense if escape is a possibility?

Why is it only fatal weapons brought to this debate? With all of the available technology why are non lethal weapons not mentioned more? Even if used in an inappropriate/illegal/accidental manor a non lethal weapon prevents a casualty. The law suit that would follow would still hit the TSA or airport but no one would be dead. That said I don’t think TSA workers should be armed if armed security is available. If flying is so dangerous that we need to arm civilians who check bags than the whole system itself is seriously flawed. In defense of the TSA however I do know a few TSA workers who are prior military and perfectly capable to handle a fire arm.

Hello, I had some questions about the crucifixion of Jesus. I have asked this question before and have received multiple answers and none of them seemed to make since to me. I understand the concept that Jesus died on the cross to forgive us of sin. As I have been told the sacrifice of Jesus lifted original sin from mankind. Original sin as I take is from the fall of Adam. The curse of painful child birth and having to work the field for food ect. But none of that has changed. We are still sinners and full of sin and the curse is still upon humanity. Also I have been told that no one could get into heaven before Jesus died. Some say Noah, Moses, Abraham and company did not go to heaven because they were pre Jesus and therefore unable to accept Jesus as their salvation. A few claim that the above mentioned did go to heaven. If that is the case and people were able to go to heaven before Christ, why the need for a sacrifice? I have other questions about the sacrifice made by Jesus but this is the root of it. Just hoping for some clarity and who better to ask? Thank you! Sorry if this thread has been done before but I didn’t see it listed.