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nothing, except last. Oh, and Andy, you should hide it in America, where it belongs.

I agree.

Though you are mistaken in the state of the U.S.

Last belongs in Oregon, with me.

http://www.worthychristianforums.com/forum/8-prayer-requests/

There you will find plenty of people who would love to be prayed over: with that you will have plenty for prayer.

Now the one you have been anticipating @Willamina

~Ego eimi- I am~

This relation that I am about to present is well known and often used to validate the case for Christ being both 100% man and 100% God. Without further ado, lets begin!

We see here, the same thing in John 10 as we do in John 8- Jesus exalts Himself to the Heavenly level- or in other words declares His eternal Lordship of being both with God and God.The Jews quickly recognized the referenced scriptures and clearly understood the message Jesus was portraying- that He is indeed with God and is God. So in conclusion- Christ’s enemies knew exactly what He was saying. He was identifying Himself as the God of the Old Testament, “the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God” (1 Timothy 1:17

).

The I AM of the bible is something we all should have, do you have Him?

Sound more like a fortune-telling machine than a time machine.

And i wonder if it predicts pleasant or unpleasant surprise occurrences?

LOL- Nebula, the website is very gray in this area- presents the idealism, and then tears it apart a bit. . .good and interesting question though.

I also find the name of the website a bit disappointing, along with that, misleading. This is in no way, shape, nor form, a"time traveling machine" but a machine that will <snip> "not take you into the future, it will bring the future to you." <snip> using a sequence of complex algorithms it supposedly "foretells" your future. I found it interesting that the cited theoretical physicist basically called the inventor crazy- makes you wonder how valid the machine is. . . . .(not likely I am assuming)

Khristeeanos

I should point out that I believe we still have our flesh that we struggle with sin. I am not saying we are sinless creatures. Just that at core we are holy and pure. I think one of the best passages to point this out is found in Romans 7.

Then the Heart is not our "core" for ALL things flow from it (Proverbs 4:23) if it is "holy" then it should not be in sin- and we know that it is- therefore it is apart of the flesh. We know that Jesus Christ is our sanctifier, and our righteousness- so your saying that once we become saved He is our heart? I do believe that we (once saved) are under His grace and are made new in Him- but to say that our heart is holy- is umbilical. We will get new bodies when Jesus returns and we rise- but until then is our flesh still dirty and filthy in sin.

We alone are not "holy" but it is Christ who dwells in us- He being our sanctifier cleanses us from our sins. God is Holy- we paid for. Hebrews 10:10 is highly mistranslated, the verse actually says this, "By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all." but the modern day bible has switched the meaning, replacing Holy with sanctified. The error here is that people believe we are going to be like Christ- when the verse is referring to the sense we are sanctified in Christ blameless for He took our sins to the cross and paid for them, therefore there is no condemnation for those who are in Him. Though "holy" in that verse is mentioned- the meaning behind it (imo) is misread.John 17:9 "For them I sanctify Myself, that they too may be truly sanctified."

¹⁴ For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

¹⁵ For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.

¹⁶ If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.

¹⁷ Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

¹⁸ For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.

¹⁹ For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.

²⁰ Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

²¹ I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.

²² For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:

²³ But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.

²⁴ O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?

²⁵ I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

I see no where in here that it says "my inner man." What translation do you use? And you say, "I don't normally like to use my own understanding (Proverbs 3 anyone? ha ha), but I keep thinking about how God gives His Sprit to live within us and how if God gives Himself (which is holy and pure) to dwell in us how can that not make us at our core holy and pure also." Which means your caling your Heart the place where God is? I do not see that in scripture, I do believe God dwells in us, but not in our heart, for our Heart is also under the law and conceived with our body in sin. He testifies with our spirit- not our heart. Though only God knows the heart- I believe that is referring to our intentions- for we know that all things flow from it and where sin begins. I might add, we are in a sense "pure" but it is by Jesus Christ atonement- it has nothing to do with us. Our flesh is still under the law- and because of that we will die- our body functions (including our heart) will cease and we will go to be with God. Our "temple" (body) will not be pure until we are risen from the grave. (Return of Christ.)

So if you could, I still need scripture that says our hearts are pure and holy and "good."

Lovely scripture about becoming a new creation in Christ, but what about the heart?

Thoughts?

My initial thought is that it was Christ who "recreated" us. If we consider that Christ is completely good and holy, wouldn't it then follow that whatever Christ gives is equally as good and holy? Man looks at the outward appearance but God looks at the heart. I am sort of misapplying the Scripture, but I don't think it is too big a leap.

I am guilty and did something I should not have done. . . In Jeremiah I kind of "dodged" around that question and reasoned my way around it, and is something that should never be done. I am confessing that fault and need to edit my post concerning that verse. That aspect does not really change-even as believers. Our spirit is willing but our flesh is weak- and it is to my understanding that the heart is indeed deceitful. (Mathew 26:41) It is not our hearts that grow, but our spirit (2 Corinthians 4:16) Out of the heart come the issues of life and through it does everything flow from it! Which means EVERYTHING- both "good" and "bad. (Proverbs 4:23) Within the heart comes the wickedness of man (Mark 7:21) and is in conflict with out spirit. (Galatians 5:17) The point in Jeremiah (IMO) is expressing this importance of Proverbs 3:5-6, of leaning on God FULLY. Not what we "feel is right" for our heart is deceitful! To set ourselves on the Spirit- not of the things of this world and certainly not our heart. For by it, are many lead astray, seeking with itching ears and falling prey to the wickedness that is set out upon us.

As for the heart being holy, what is your scripture for that? We are given the aspect of being a "new Creation" but we are also told that our flesh is wasting away- it is our SPIRIT, that grows in Him, not our flesh. For our flesh works contrary to God, and is at war with our spirit. The "reward" for our sin nature, is death to our earthly body- only way to escape it is upon death for then will we be present with the Lord. We change from flesh to spirit, not flesh bearing new flesh, being given God's spirit is what makes us a "new creation" for it is He who is IN us, that wills and does that which is good!

Thoughts?

It's not quite Back to the Future, but a young Iranian inventor claims to have built a time machine that can predict a person's future with startling accuracy.

http://news.national...father-paradox/

I find this quite interesting- though from what I have found (this is an example site) time travel in the past is considered impossible, but traveling to the future is still possible? I find that concept interesting: http://news.yahoo.com/texas-college-student-wounds-14-stabbing-spree-040724482.html

I believe it is good and holy, and that is still a surprise to me.

A while back I did a study of our condition after salvation. It was something I believe God prompted me to do with the simple question of 'Who am I'. But the question as I discovered was more, Who am I in Jesus. Thru this, I discovered my view of myself was based more on who I was and not who I am. So this was a rather dramatic change in my thoughts.

Let me start by saying, the first thing I discovered was that when we are saved, we are co-crucified with Messiah, and our old man died. We are not who we were before Jesus. We are new creations. I'm am going to post a series of scripture verses. Yes, there are going to be a lot, but this list is not complete.

Romans 6:4

Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

Romans 6:11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Romans 7:4

Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

Romans 8:10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

Romans 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

Romans 6:14 But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.

Ephesians 1

4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

5Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

Romans 8:14

For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

Galatians 4

4But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,

5To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.

6And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.

7Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.

1 John 3:1

Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.

2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

Holy

Romans 11:16

For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.

Colossians 1

21And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled

22In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:

Colossians 3:12

Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved

2 Timothy 1:9

Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

Hebrews 3:1

Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus;

1 Peter 2:5

Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.

1 Peter 2:9

But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

Loved

Romans 5:5

And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.

I believe it is good and holy, and that is still a surprise to me.

A while back I did a study of our condition after salvation. It was something I believe God prompted me to do with the simple question of 'Who am I'. But the question as I discovered was more, Who am I in Jesus. Thru this, I discovered my view of myself was based more on who I was and not who I am. So this was a rather dramatic change in my thoughts.

Let me start by saying, the first thing I discovered was that when we are saved, we are co-crucified with Messiah, and our old man died. We are not who we were before Jesus. We are new creations. I'm am going to post a series of scripture verses. Yes, there are going to be a lot, but this list is not complete.

Romans 6:4

Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

Romans 6:11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Romans 7:4

Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

Romans 8:10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

Romans 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

Romans 6:14 But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.

Ephesians 1

4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

5Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

Romans 8:14

For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

Galatians 4

4But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,

5To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.

6And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.

7Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.

1 John 3:1

Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.

2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

Holy

Romans 11:16

For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.

Colossians 1

21And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled

22In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:

Colossians 3:12

Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved

2 Timothy 1:9

Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

Hebrews 3:1

Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus;

1 Peter 2:5

Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.

1 Peter 2:9

But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

Loved

Romans 5:5

And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.

Lovely scripture about becoming a new creation in Christ, but what about the heart?

Thoughts?

Here is A link for you all of the incident at hand,: http://news.yahoo.com/texas-college-student-wounds-14-stabbing-spree-040724482.html not sure the source being used by back2thebible....but anyways, there it is.

Khristeeanos

I appreciate your reply. I am of the conviction that an Old Testament Scripture may not be reflective of the Christian heart that has the Spirit of God in it. A few verses I would also like to introduce are:

You do realize that the book of Ezekiel is in the Old Testament, correct? Though besides the point- just though I would throw that out there.

Ezekiel 11:19

¹⁹ I will give them an undivided heart and put a new spirit in them; I will remove from them their heart of stone and give them a heart of flesh.

Personally, I do not see the connection. God spoke this to Ezekiel concerning the Land of Israel. Along with that, discussed the manner of reestablishing Israel. (Ezekiel 11:16-17) Therefor is a prophecised (fulfilled) promise of reuniting Israel- so I am lost in how this connects directly to the human heart in and of itself. . . Thoughts?

Luke 8:14-16

¹⁴ The seed that fell among thorns stands for those who hear, but as they go on their way they are choked by life’s worries, riches and pleasures, and they do not mature. ¹⁵ But the seed on good soil stands for those with a noble and good heart, who hear the word, retain it, and by persevering produce a crop.

Luke 8:11 gives an important insight into understanding the parables in Luke 8. "Now the parable is this; the seed is the word of God." So again, concerning the heart in and of itself in this scripture I find hard to see. . . .so some clarity would be nice

My Thoughts

I think in this, it would be better if I would clarify my position so that you know where I am coming from. . .

I believe the heart is wicked (Mathew 15:19) it is the sense of repentance and having a redeemer that makes the difference (Psalm 66:18) We are to put off our old selves (Ephesians 4:22) but we all still sin (1 John 1:8 & Ecclesiastes 7:20) and therefore are without pure hearts (Proverbs 20:9) Hallelujah to the Lord's mercy! (Acts 17:11) For He is faithful in His forgiveness! (1 John 1:9)

Proverbs 4:23

"Above all else, guard your hearts, for everything you do flows from it."

~Though severely off topic, I just wanted to tell you I love your picture! Is very beautiful- most of all you are fishing, lol~

God bless you!

Love to you in Him!

Even when called by God will we go out against great storms! But, by the name of the Mighty Lord Jesus, and by Him are the seas calmed! We have been called to be the light on the hill, we have been told that DESPITE, our trials and tribulations to fear not, for the Lord has overcome! (Hallelujah!)

Isaiah 24:4

"4For you have been a stronghold to the poor, a stronghold to the needy in his distress, a shelter from the

storm and a shade from the heat; for the breath of the ruthless is like a storm against a wall."

We also have to learn and take to heart that God does not always heal, does not always "calm the storms" immediately. What He DOES promise is to be our Jehovah Ma'oz- a named revealed to David in Psalms 91:9 depicting this very thing declared in Isaiah 24:4. Be our stronghold, someone to lean on- to be there for us, a shelter from the storm- meaning be our peace, our righteousness! God offers this lavished love forevermore, but it must be YOU, who accepts it, it must be YOU, who sets the sails.

God bless you in the name of our Mighty God!

Jeremiah 17:9

"The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately sick; who can understand it"

The only last you get is as follows pat: "Lazy And Silly Troublemaker"

Now the one true last, belongs with me

no one deserves last. You are not last. You do not even qualify for last. You need to read all 3,529 pages of last before you can even pretend to claim it.

oh, so your pulling ncn's reasoning..way to be original

Also, last likes younger people like myself, someone to hang out with and do stuff, rather than take naps periodically

Drips do not earn last

Yes..........but no one "earns" last

It is a matter of deserving last, and that is me! I deserve last!

We already have 172 threads on the rapture already, so we really don't need another. If this thread is to discuss what some may see needs done before He returns, that is fine, but let's not get into another debate on the when this will happen ...

172 active threads??

So a question was brought up by Candice, and it is as stated in the Topic title. . . the Euthyphro dilemma: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euthyphro_dilemma

The leading question to keep in mind is: ""Is what is morally good commanded by God because it is morally good, or is it morally good because it is commanded by God?"

Personally, I am stomped in this..........I do not see the "dilemma," in the sense that we know God is good, He is just etc. and He commands and defines what is "good." So really I see no problem, I am interested in others ideas of this, and hopefully can help me see where the problem lies, thank you and God bless!

Guys thanks, this has been a really good post for me.

Because of the answers.

Jacob, ncn, sevenseas and the rest of you, it is answers like yours that tell one that they are not alone in thinking as they do.

And ncn, I did kind of answer my question myself before I wrote this post didn't I? (God is amazing).

Finally everyone, read George's devotions. I can't wait for him to post his new ones, he is a very wise man.....

Indeed Fez, you are never alone Not only is God ALWAYS by our sides, but our trials are not new!

1 Corinthians 10:13 "No temptation has overtaken you that is not common to man. God is faithful, and he will not let you be tempted beyond your ability, but with the temptation he will also provide the way of escape, that you may be able to endure it."

Quite a declaration, don't you think? Not only that, but we are given a strong promise! The moment that we are about to "break" God is right there to lift us up! Hallelujah!

John 16:33 "I have said these things to you, that in me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation. But take heart; I have overcome the world.”

I find this verse quite strengthening. . .along with that the one of the world rejecting Christ. . .puts a lot of light in the aspect of "what can we expect," the world rejected Him, and what more should we expect? Though we have one MIGHTY, constant and that is our Lord and savior. He is sufficient in all things! Amen? Amen~! We will have great trials, but that one saved soul is ALL worth the trouble

Philippians 4:6-7 "Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God. And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus."

In this aspect, I think we tend to over-think things, we think where do we begin with this mess, what do I do, what do I say! All these questions become overwhelming, yet we forget so many things! To be still, know that God is sufficient in all things, and KNOW, that this is not our battle, but God's. . .all we need to do is take that initiative, and know that He will be there on His behalf. All to His glory! Another thing, is that Christ Himself, says He will do whatever we ask in His name. that bring glory to the Father and that is quite the proclamation! I believe in the book, and I believe in the promises that God gives us! I know you do, so it is a matter of patience, prayer, love and an initiative to take Jesus! John 15:16 "You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you so that you might go and bear fruit--fruit that will last--and so that whatever you ask in my name the Father will give you."

And I agree! George is a very spirit filled and lead man, I love reading the devotions he posts, always insightful and full of Glorifying God

God bless you Fez!!

Hey Fez! God is absolutely amazing, not only did He provide the vision, but along with that the interpretation!

I have some thoughts reading through your posts, and with that of course (most importantly) scriptures. So, now it is a matter of choosing where to begin.

I despair when I look around me and see all the challenges. And I wonder...

"What can one person do?"

The moment I read the beginning of your Post, a song that I always remind myself about popped into my head. The song is "My Own Little World" by Mathew West. Your probably wondering what it has to do with your question in mind, and well, it has a lot. I am going to post the song, so my post will be quite long, but it is a great song, and I encourage you to give it a listen.

In my own little world it hardly ever rains

I've never gone hungry, always felt safe

I got some money in my pocket, shoes on my feet

In my own little world, population: me

I try to stay awake during Sunday morning church

I throw a twenty in the plate but I never give 'til it hurts

And I turn off the news when I don't like what I see

Yeah, it's easy to do when it's population: me

What if there's a bigger picture?

What if I'm missing out?

What if there's a greater purpose?

I could be living right now

Outside my own little world

Stopped at a red light looked out my window

I saw a cardboard sign said, "help this homeless widow"

And just above that sign was the face of a human

I thought to myself, God, what have I been doing?

So I rolled down the window and I looked her in the eye

Oh, how many times have I just passed her by?

I gave her some money than I drove on through

And my own little world reached population: two

What if there's a bigger picture?

What if I'm missing out?

What if there's a greater purpose?

I could be living right now

Outside my own little world

My own little world

Father, break my heart for what breaks Yours

Give me open hands and open doors

Put Your light in my eyes and let me see

That my own little world is not about me

What if there's a bigger picture?

What if I'm missing out?

What if there's a greater purpose?

That I could be living right now

I don't want to miss what matters

I wanna be reaching out

Show me the greater purpose

So I can start living right now

Outside my own little world

My own little world

My own little world

So maybe that is not what God is wanting you to do, not to be sad in a sense of being overwhelmed, but be saddened for what is truly out there, and in them. Not saying we Christians are any better, because we still sin, fail etc. But with that being said, it is God that makes us new and adds color to gray and light to the darkness.

I am going to post a picture God gave me at church during worship last week. I don't often do this, because I am the least super spiritual person you could imagine.

The vision God gave you in particular I believe is extremely powerful, along with that, the understanding God gave you or the interpretation to go with it is equally powerful!

I kept in mind that song, and I thought real hard and I was saying, "God what does this mean?" Because from the outside looking in, such things can be quite difficult, and well, in reality impossible to understand without the God given understanding. I read over the vision God gave you a few more times and it hit me.

In one aspect or another, or all the way through and through, we are extremely blessed. We have this picture perfect place called "home" and outside of that, we keep in this place, not going outside of this hedge, or over the fence. Outside of that, is utter darkness: dull, colorless and even a lifeless atmosphere. We think to ourselves that maybe we should stay in this "little world" in the case of something going bad, or maybe in the case of disaster striking etc. But is that what God has called us to do? Are we shaken in fear? Afraid that the moment we go outside of this "area," we will be engulfed in the same Worldly destruction?

God has called us! What a message to receive! But what a hard one to follow.......

Philippians 3:8 "What is more, I consider everything a loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whose sake I have lost all things. I consider them garbage, that I may gain Christ."

Psalms 73:25 "Whom have I in heaven but you? And earth has nothing I desire besides you"

So we are reminded. . . what does this world have to offer? The answer to that is nothing. But what do we believers have to offer? Jesus Christ and all things that follow: love, patience, kindness, and most importantly the Good News! So we are met with a decision; be the Light that God has called us to be (Mathew 5:14-16 "¹⁴ “You are the light of the world. A town built on a hill cannot be hidden. ¹⁵ Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. ¹⁶ In the same way, let your light shine before others, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven."), or remain in our "Own little worlds" and store away the talents He has given us. I believe that, that was the message (also the interpretation that God had given you) to be received. To go out into the world and be the Light! It is CHRIST, who is in us, that makes ALL things possible. We are called by the Almighty God, to glorify His Kingdom and preach the Gospel. Not only to make believers, but to make Disciples! We are to make a continuation of glory, an unending chain to tell of this Good News!

The biggest part that I see, and probably only because I struggle with this, is the fear aspect. The verse that gives me the most comfort in this aspect is Isaiah 41:10 "Fear not, for I am with you; be not dismayed, for I am your God; I will strengthen you, I will help you, I will uphold you with my righteous right hand" the reason behind this, is that I know I am not going to be alone. I know, that in that moment, it will be to the glory to God and with that, He will not let me be ashamed because we can do all things through Him, and by Him, will we be lifted up, strengthened and upheld. By this, we can hold onto it! For we know that God is not a liar, and He keeps ALL of His promises. The Key which seems quite simple.....is praying. Praying for God's strength, His will to be done, and to be a better Servant- all to the glory of Him, of course In this, I also struggle, because in the same sense I think to myself, what if things go wrong, what if I mess up, don't know what to say.....and all these questions just keep building up, and up and up etc. But then I get this notion, this knowing, that God will and is by myside ALWAYS, and if I do my best, try my hardest, God will not be ashamed of me, for that is what He wants from us, to take up our cross, and follow Him.

So where to start? I would first pray for Gods guidance, and then. . . start washing feet. Pray for just as that song says, to give you compassion on them, and a spirit that is willing to withstand their judgement to plant seeds. Seeds that should also be prayed over, that the message of Him, be well received, be convincing and convicting. What can a guy do? Nothing! What can God do? ALL things!

God bless you Fez, you will be in my prayers, and with that I pray that what I feel God lead me to say is in one aspect or another, helpful, and glorifies Him!

The Truth is there is no Trinity; this has been a doctrine that has infiltrated the church since 325 AD in the Council of Nicea. Some of the church fathers of old like Tertullian brought this heresy into the church till they had to have a council of the bishops to discuss the creed. Which was later indoctrinated into the Apostles Creed. God is Spirit and not flesh however he dwelt in the fullness of Christ bodily making Jesus Emanuelle God with us. Jesus is his one and only begotten Son not adopted like we are. Jesus is the only person in the Godhead and the Holy Spirit is God He is Spirit and He is holy, the only eternal being. With no beginning and no end. Its obvious that Jesus had a beginning and that was his bodily appearance almost 2000 years ago. However he existed in the bosom of God or Spirit of God from all eternity but was spoken into being at his advent. Jesus Christ (Yeshua) was the spoken word manifested unto us as a perfect sacrifice for the sins of the world. Hallelujah. Any further explanation can be made if needed...

Interesting. . . Though I do not see how this exert of history proves your conclusion, the only derived implication found is your opinion. So I would be interested in your scriptural reasoning behind this.

As for Jesus Christ: if you believe the bible, then you must believe that Jesus in fact was there with God in the creation of the earth, not only does John 1 inform us of Him being there, but goes as far as saying the word WAS God. Not meaning "was" as an past-tense, but that Jesus is in fact God in the flesh.

Considering the bolded statement, where is the scripture for that? As I pointed out in John 1, it explains that the Word [Jesus] was there with God, not in His "bosom" as you explain. As OneLight pointed out, that is not scriptural, therefore is rejected.

So I absolutely need a further reasoning and SCRIPTURAL, based response, that would be much appreciated, thank you and God bless you!

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I can just see them in prison. Laughed at.

LOL, Jade.

Brings a new meaning to "shame" ehh...not only out in the world, but now in prison. Fun, Fun.

Hopefully they will learn their lesson

I think this is wonderful. We are commanded to be the light of the world.

Luke 5:32 I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance."

How do you find this wonderful?

It is what Christ would have done. Christ ate with the low lifes to show him that salvation was available even to them.

What is the Gospel? The Good News, that ANYONE can be saved.

Oh! In that aspect I 100% agree the part I had a problem with is "he [the pope] called for the church and the West in general to "intensify" relations with the Muslim world." Instead of "forming relations" they need to be spreading the good news, granted you want to keep them close and accepted, but you do not want to be at the point of "acceptance" rather than deliverance.