MARANATHA

I know this isn't the thread for this, but since the majority of my post are here I am posting this to my brothers who have communicated our prospectives with each other. I ask the moderator to leave this post here if possible, if not I will understand. We are moving back to Louisiana from Washington State. 3,000 miles. It will be a long drive. I will not have internet service after today. It will be several weeks to a month before I can get back with you all. Will post to you as I can. GOD bless you all and pray for our safe trip home. Your brother in CHRIST, MARANATHA.

Time will tell of Russia's real agendas, and letting the US dominate the oil in the region may, not be in the Russian interest. Peace, but not yet.

I believe it will be interesting to see how Russia reacts in Chechnya. With the rebels latest action. Putin may now have a free hand in a full all out attack on the rebels. Where he has showed restraint before, in order to appease world opinion. He acted very quickly in the response of the rebels, and it seems to have paid off to his advantage. It is my belief, the unification of the European continent is a partial fulfillment in the dividing of the world into 10 regions or kingdoms, which 10 kings will take over and rule in one hours time with the future anti-christ. Europe being one of those regions, and which contains many smaller individual countries. It is important on the globalist time scale to unify the region which contains the most in individual countries. The other nine regions consist of larger countries or a single country as a whole. Peace, but not yet.

Discerning all things. Peace, but not yet. :thumb:

http://www.worthynews.com/zone.cg....gi?http Peace, but not yet.

Whatsitmean As time nears the coming events of the tribulation period, people that are riding the fence are being forced to one side or the other, GOD is removing the fence riders. HE is forcing people to commit to HIM, or reject HIM. The judgments during the tribulation period are designed as GOD'S last effort to force people into a decision of only two choices, accept CHRIST or reject HIM. Unfortunately you are acquainting the Pollyanna-ist whom have jumped to the wrong side of the fence. They do not want to here of their materialistic world being destroyed, and ruled with a rod of iron by the KING OF KINGS, and LORD OF LORDS. They want to here that everything will continue as it has, and that they can continue their lives in this world, which has become their god. They do not want to here of the end of the world system as we know it, or the wars and famine that will occur just prior to it

Step by step, all is needed is good war for the a/c to stand up with his peace plan in hand, with a solution to a war his followers started, to put him in power. I am waiting for CHRIST'S peace plan. Untill then, peace, but not yet.

Thunder can you image being able to talk to all the old testament saints, and asking them about the events we have read about in scripture. That will be amazing. Peace, but not yet.

That is pretty cut and dry. I do not believe that is an either or question. Where I believe the problems with understanding certain aspects of prophecy begin are when certain prophetic events that specifically pertain to the Jews and Israel as a nation, are forced as being for Christians in general. An example of this is the 144,000 that are sealed. There are some who believe this refers to their particular religion, or to non-Jews, when Revelation is very clear that GOD has chosen 12,000 from each of the tribes of Israel for this task. There are prophecies that will be fulfilled that are meant as judgments for the unsaved, as well as the saved, we must discern which prophesies are meant for which particular group is being spoken of. There are events described that pertain to specific groups that can only pertain to a specific group of people, such as those who see the abomination of desolation. This is specifically for the Jews who will be in that region at that time. If you are in New York, it will not have much meaning to you when you are told to flee to the Judean Hills. We can see this from Revelation and Daniel as well as other books that speak of the coming of CHRIST. The assumption that Christians have totally re-placed the Jews and Israel in GOD

"..........NOT...........!!! You read WAY to many Hal Lindsey books..or people who read em...then rewrote their own using HIS ideas of who's who...! Plus...Stay away from the fiction garbage "tribulation force" type books too ....!" Which books are you referring to, I looked through the book collection I have, and none were written by Lindsey. You are making this assumption based on what knowledge? With the detail of my post, (which I based on my study of scripture, on organization and countries that may be bringing about the events that fulfill the prophecies of the events just prior to the return of CHRIST) you must know exactly which book I plagiarized, so please inform me which book or books you are referring to by name. For your information, I see possible scenarios by reading Daniel, Ezekiel, Zechariah, Isaiah, and Revelation. Correlating the events in these books with each other. I will then ask myself questions. Like who are the primary governmental powers on the earth at the return of CHRIST. They are from reading Daniel and Revelation, the kings of the east and the world government of the anti-christ. With this information, I then ask well what happened to the US. I read in Daniel of three kingdoms being subdued. I look at the war front of the future and I see the US heavily involved in a Middle East war with certain Arab nations. I see the threat of an attack by certain Arab nation on Israel. I see Russian interest in the region increasing . I then read Ezekiel 38 and 39. I re-read Revelation and find no mention of these three governmental powers in the time frame of the 7 years before the return of CHRIST. I re-read Daniel where anti-christ subdues three kingdoms. Lets see, war in the Middle East on the front pages of the news papers and heavily covered by the network and cable news agencies, I re-read Ezekiel 38 and 39, the only world powers mentioned in Revelation are the kings of the east and the world government of the anti-christ. I read in Zechariah of the plague, on those that are attacking Israel, which causes the flesh, eyes and tongues to consume away in their bodies. Well anyway, just thought I would explain why I believe what I believe, and what original sources of information I used for my beliefs, so no one would make any more assumptions on what my sources are based on ignorance. So its time to put up, or... well you figure it out. Peace, but not yet.

A discerning mind!! Peace, but not yet.

Lorie how are you? http://www.fas.org/nuke/intro/nuke/index.html This is the best site on any weapons that are, or may be used in warfare. I do not know your interest level here, but I am sure if you search the site you will find any answers to any questions you might have. The technologies required to build the components of nuclear weapons is over 60 years old, and most countries, and even certain individuals possess the capabilities to develop and construct these components. The more difficult aspect of the device is the processing of the fuel to make the detonation a nuclear one. The technologies required for this process require vast resources of technologies that are not readily available to countries and people. The processes require huge funding for research and development. The Arab nations are now seeking to finance and develop the technologies required for processing of these fuels. The site I posted above can explain these issues in detail. I highly recommend the read to everyone. Peace, but not yet.

In Ezekiel 38 and 39 it is believed Russia is listed among the Arab and Islamic African nations that attack Israel. I believe the Arabs as a whole may attack Israel as they have in the past, but with our forces in the region, they have a restraint. In our attack on Iraq I see a flaw in our strategy. Our force are vulnerable to a conventional attack by the Russians and the Chinese. They both have the ability to inflict heavy damage to our conventional forces in the region with a massive air and missile strike. They can accomplish this simply because we are in their backyard. With our offensive capabilities now diminished to defensive postures, the Arabs and the Russians would then attempt to overrun Israel, and China we be free to retake Taiwan. We could not conventionally defend either place. This scenario is very plausible, if so we maybe walking into a very thought out trap, which we may have to either pull completely out of the region in disgrace or escalate the war to the next level. I believe the US military arrogance will soon catch up with them. We have only been so successful in our latest campaigns because our forces haven

Sharon may be doing the age-old saying that I have heard many times in the past. "Keep your friends close, and keep your enemies, even closer", but who knows for sure. I believe Netanyahu (if I spelt that right) we be elected next if Sharon is not successful in stopping the suicide bombers. He will be much more severe in his retaliation for such terror attacks. It will be interesting to see what develops if and when the Bush decides to attack Iraq, and Saddam launches some type of attack on Israel. Peace, but not yet.

I have to be very careful here, for all is monitored. Lets just leave it at I didn