lambofgod

Sometimes I am not sure myself how to take it when I am challenged and find it tiresome. But I guess it depends on the context and situation.

Well Enoch, thanks for shedding that light on it I have a better perspective on it now.

Would like to note. My wording for things don't always come out right. My thoughts on things often come out jumbled before even i can make sense of what I'm trying to say

I don't think we should stop telling the truth. But there is a point where we have to say, ok i will pray for you and hopefully you will see. What are we really saying when we try so hard to throw our proof at them? These are honest questions i would really like to know.

Ok i agree i may have used the wrong terms in the way i expressed my questioning. And yes i meant when jesus was created in the flesh. He was merely create as anything else on earth at the time. And thats what i mean, they denied him when he was right in front of them. He was there in the flesh and still they chose to not see him as he was. My point is, in many cases the argument is pointless due to people wanting ti find answers that line up with their own selfufiling ideals and logic. Not of what is doctrine. Maybe in generalising am am incorrect in my assumption of the argument been pointless. I do know many that also have been saved by the "proof" of the lords existence given in a theological proofing. But many just suck you into a further game of chess that they like to play. And i do also see and hear of many christians falling away as a cause of been sucked into that game of chess. Maybe not ALL the arguments used are not completely pointless, and yes i do agree in defending gods word. But when do we draw the line at it been futile in attempt? Why don't we just say it, and just pray for them as it says in the bible? Shouldn't we humble ourselves to these kinds of arguments? Give them the tools and then leave them ti make their own choices? Is the game of chess that they play, really worth playing back? Our logic in the end to many of them, will always be fallacy to many of them.

The ridiculous thing i found out about this argument, and I've thought about this long and hard. But from the day jesus was created and even walking the earth and creating miracles, he was still been denied of existence and even slaughtered on the cross! They had their "physical proof" right there in front of them. And yet they all turned a blind eye to it and destroyed it themselves. Does that not tell you the ignorance of "science" and the non believers and the pointlessness of trying to find "proof" for them. They didn't even believe it when it was right in front of them! So what changes that now? I believe the last days will be the ultimate test for christians and none christians alike. That, even then it describes how many wont believe what they are seeing. Thats my view of the never ending argument. (I was born and raised a Christian and baptised at 16) the point is, due to their own self fulfilment and selfishness and even fear, they will deny his word. Thats why we as. Christians must stand strong and not let it get to us. I find that the more christians argue the points to a atheist or the like, the further they themselves fall from god. Found the right room for this post now

Ohh thanks haha

Woops wrong chat forum...how do i delete posts?