Last Daze
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21 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:
You said the times of the gentiles has ended.
Will you still say the times of the gentiles had already ended when the gentiles take Jerusalem ,tread it under foot,raping the Israeli women and lead many into captivity on the day of the Lord?
Zech 14
2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
Sure looks to me like the times the gentiles tread Jerusalem under foot has not quite ended yet.
Just because Jerusalem is not being tread underfoot by Gentiles today doesn't mean that it won't be attacked in the future.
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21 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:
Well,is the holy city Jerusalem or is that Chicago?
Revelation 11
2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
So you see Babylon as the holy city. Weird. There are serious inconsistencies in your eschatology.
You are also confusing Jerusalem with the holy city.
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2 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:
1967 was a sign also.
That is the year the little horn defeated three others and took possession of the seven hilled city of Jerusalem.
Very significant.
24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.
so many signs,and so few eyes that see them.
Jerusalem is not Babylon. Israel is not one of Satan's heads.
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3 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:
Oh PS
The times that the gentiles occupy Jerusalem has not began yet.That takes place when the king of the north gives the Israeli government it's armed forces. They occupy Jerusalem for 42 months.At the end of the 42 months the beast that ascends out of the abyss kills them and the Jews fall by the edge of the sword and are carried away captive .
Revelation 11
2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
Not fulfilled yet.
The outer court of the temple is not Jerusalem.
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4 hours ago, Diaste said:
The 1948 restoration of Israel is not a prophetic sign of the nearness of the Return of the King.
Perhaps not directly. However, the 1967 liberation of east Jerusalem is significant, along with the 1948 war which resulted in western Jerusalem becoming part of the state of Israel. The significance of Jewish sovereignty over is Jerusalem is a prophetic marker.
Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled. Luke 21:24b
The times of the Gentiles has been fulfilled. What's left is for the fulness of the Gentiles to come in. That will be brought about by the events of the end.
This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations [Gentiles], and then the end will come. Matt 24:14
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On 10/23/2023 at 4:22 PM, angels4u said:
https://theofaith.org/2020/01/09/jesus-is-coming-but-where-part-2/
Interesting,what do you think?
I believe Jesus will go to Jerusalem but I could be wrong...
(Editing,I meant to say Bozrah first ..)
Michael Heiser has a good video explaining why the battle known as Armageddon takes place at Jerusalem.
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18 hours ago, Charlie744 said:
Who is the 4th kingdom?
The feet of iron and clay. The globalist U.N. At least for now.
18 hours ago, Charlie744 said:Doesn’t the 10 horns and the little horn come out of the 4th kingdom?
Yes. The beast and his ten horns are primarily evil spirit beings who influence the natural realm. They began the 4th kingdom over a century ago and have been busy setting the stage for the little horn.
18 hours ago, Charlie744 said:Doesn’t the little horn have eyes like a man and a mouth that speaks… isn’t he a man?
Yes, in contrast to the other horns who don't have eyes and a mouth, non-humans.
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22 hours ago, FreeGrace said:
I believe that verse is speaking to the fact of positional truth. Those who have believed HAVE "died with Christ". Positionally, the believer is justified. Experientially, the believer continues to struggle with their flesh, or sin nature.
I think it speaks more to the sanctification process. It addresses what the believer has done, ie crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. Its like the overcoming promises in the letters to the seven churches, a certain level of obedience. Salvation is a free gift. Some rewards are earned. It's God's call.
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4 hours ago, FreeGrace said:
Here is the problem, clear and simple. You read the phrase as "undefined" because that helps you ignore the obvious contradiction in your view. The phrase DEFINES who will be resurrected "when He comes", which is "those who belong to Him".
Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. Galatians 5:24
Have ALL believers crucified the flesh with its passions and desires? I think that's the question.
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14 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:
Not according to the word of God..The word of God says the king of Babylon is a man and that man dies.
Isaiah 14
16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;
A little context is in order here. A couple of verses earlier in Isaiah 14, we find this:
How you have fallen from heaven, you star of the morning, son of the dawn! You have been cut down to the earth,
You who defeated the nations! But you said in your heart, ‘I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God, and I will sit on the mount of assembly in the recesses of the north. I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.’ Nevertheless you will be brought down to Sheol, to the recesses of the pit. Those who see you will stare at you,
they will closely examine you, saying, ‘Is this the man who made the earth tremble, who shook kingdoms'. Isaiah 14:12-16Clearly a reference to Satan.
The blood of Abel is found in Babylon, along with the blood of all who have been slain on the Earth. Rev 18:24
Babylon is primarily spiritual and transcends generations. Once you start viewing Babylon as the influence of Satan's kingdom on the human race, it becomes much less of a mystery.
Yes, we see manifestations of Babylon in the natural realm. Satan entered the son of perdition in the first century and failed to stop the Messiah. He will enter the son of perdition again and fail again. There's a reason the false prophet speaks like a dragon.
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11 minutes ago, bornagain2011 said:
From the article,
A UFO researcher is claiming that Pentagon commanders are trying to put the brakes on extraterrestrial studies due to their Christian beliefs.
Ron James, director of media relations for the UFO research group MUFON, has shared that US government officials are concerned aliens might actually be demons in disguise. James said that the government-sanctioned Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program faced opposition from “a very large contingent of people” within the Pentagon who believe the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena reported by US military sources were potentially piloted by creatures from Hell.
James went on to share that Luis Elizondo, the head of AATIP, struggled to get proper funding because of this group of individuals. Elizondo allegedly said it “was not just a little voice in The Pentagon…but a huge group of people thought the phenomenon that was being witnessed was demons.”
Despite religious leaders, including Pope Francis, acknowledging that there is likely life on other planets, this group of officials are wary. In fact, Jones mentioned his conversation with Christian U.S. Congressman Tim Burchett.
“I sat down and interviewed him,” Jones said. “His feeling was that if you look in the Bible and you look at Ezekiel building the wheel there’s a lot of people that think that that was a spaceship.”
Jones clarified on Julian Dorsey’s podcast he does not think aliens are demons, but simply beings from a different universe
Could this be part of the future deception? Do you think they should reveal their concerns to the public? How do you think the public would react?
I tend to agree with the notion that there's not a lot of wasted effort when it comes to pushing an agenda. And when that agenda is being pushed by the spiritual forces of wickedness, its even more true.
The next global deception is going to be when the man of sin performs amazing signs and wonders. The whole extraterrestrial narrative will play right into that scenario. And regardless of the claims, the power on display will be supernatural. Satan gives his power, throne, and great authority to another evil angel (the beast) while he enters the man of sin. Satan then works in conjunction with the beast to deceive the world through signs and wonders.
I doubt there's life on other planets. In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth, not earths. The earth is unique, at least how I read it. So, yeah, I think those exposing the UFO phenom as demonic are correct and it should be exposed as such.
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25 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:
Mathew 10:22
You will be hated by everyone because of me, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved.
It will be a global phenomena.
“Then they will hand you over to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations because of My name." Matt 24:9
Satan will attack the woman first, then her offspring who are all around the world (Rev 12).
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10 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:
Yes,the ten horns are bound to geography.
It is a kingdom apon earth.
Granted, there will be manifestations in the natural realm. What I was getting at is that even though the beast and his ten horns brought us the Roman Empire, their emergence from the abyss in the last days is not confined to the former Roman territories.
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11 minutes ago, Scott Free said:
There is only one organization that fits the detailed description of the last empire created by this malevolent force, the Shanghai Cooperation Organization. With 9 member nations plus Belarus or Turkey. They have the three nations to subjugate the world in a post-U.S.A. power vacuum, that is Russia, China and India alone have the might
Worth keeping an eye on.
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What I would say would go something like this:
There is going to arise in the Middle East a man who will perform signs and wonders to deceive the world into believing that he is God. He will claim to be God but he is lying because when God returns to Earth in the person of Jesus Christ, He will be seen by everyone, everywhere. This false prophet will demand obedience to his authority and those who refuse will be killed. He will have the means to take everything you own so set your affections on things above and cling to the blessed hope of eternal life in Christ, a hope beyond this world.
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2 hours ago, Scott Free said:
Any comprehensive interpretation made before the 2000's is guaranteed to be in error.
That's why its important to stay flexible. The interpretations of LaHaye, Jefferies, Lindsey, et al are largely irrelevant yet some still cling to those notions. They were big on a 10 nation federation in Europe without realizing that the beast and his 10 horns are primarily evil spirit beings who influence the natural realm. They aren't bound to geography.
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1 hour ago, Shilohsfoal said:
But who is Jesus talking too in the Olivet discourse?
The disciples who were both Jews and charter members (sans Judas) of the new covenant church which exists to this day. That's why the discourse speaks both to Israel and the church.
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10 hours ago, Diaste said:
Ain't that the truth.
For many will come in My name, claiming, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many
I think that's talking about preachers who come in Christ's name, who confess Jesus as the Christ. I don't think someone would both claim to be Christ and then come in His name. That's not to say that there won't be false Christs. The above passage refers to the deception caused by preachers who claim to be Christians, kind of what we see a lot of today.
For the time will come when they will not tolerate sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance with their own desires. 2 Tim 4:3
10 hours ago, Diaste said:There is no pretrib rapture so get ready to endure in the power and provision of the Holy Spirit.
Agree. People need to be ready to endure great tribulation. Its not for no reason that we are instructed over and over again by Jesus to be ready and on the alert. This world is not our home.
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15 minutes ago, Revelation Man said:
You will see soon that you are wrong on all things Eschatology. It amuses me to see so many people clearly not called unto Prophecy trying to teach it.
Yea, yea yea, everything is pride with you because you get destroyed in any debate about Prophecy and you have only one recourse to call names and tag people. We will all answer for our actions my brother, me calling out your wrong assumptions is an order from the Lord, read Ezekiel 3:18. You put forth things you do not understand as if you do, then when you are proved wrong you act like you want to take you ball and go home. That private message sounded just like that, I don't want to reply to you no more [cause I never win the debate].
When that message came in I started to put you on Ignore. If you can't debate without getting all offended something is wrong sir. You will never defeat me in a debate because you start out with WRONG FACTS, you can't even get the Rapture right and I am supposed to listen to you on Eschatology !!
Why even enter a thread just to stir up strife? I do nit get it, if it bothers you that much to be proven wrong, stay away. I debate on Atheist sites an win conversions over time, they call me every name in the book, goofy, a fool, a Far Right loon. But I turn it on them, I says yes, I am a fool for the gospel, just like Paul stated. Then I show them I can handle their obnoxious rhetoric, and I start showing them how the Universe was created over 13.7 billion years with YOWM meaning a TIME PERIOD, and how God stated that Darkness would be on the Face of the Deep, and tat there was 400 million years of total darkness after the Big Bang which was a burst of energy via God ordering firth creation, and how the first YOWM (Time period) lasted 9.2 billion years, and how our human DNA proves an intelligent being created a CODE in us, and how our bodies are full of trillions of cells and each cell is like a machine, then I break their locked by Satan brains, so they can now hear the Good News. So, while I am reaching the lost many days, many are arguing Eschatology which they are not even called unto. I bet you think this Universe is 6000-10,000 years old also right?
Don't get frustrated when reproved. If so, just don't reply, or we can ignore each other, it your call, you are the one who can't handle a back and forth not me. Your nae calling will have no effect on me, I was on the streets at 9, doing dope, hustling, at 23 God changed me inside and told me in a vision the Anti-Christ was alive in the world. You do the math. Its all petty to me when another Christian has to use name tags on brothers you really do not even know. Sad.
Have a great day!!
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10 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:
all not we will sleep
WHAT IS REVEALED? NOT EVERYONE IS GOING TO DIESleep is what happens after death, usually in the ground but not necessarily so.
And many of those who sleep in the dust of the ground will awake, these to everlasting life, but the others to disgrace and everlasting contempt. Daniel 12:2
Everyone is appointed to die.
For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive. 1 Cor 15:22
Those believers who are alive when Christ returns die, but they don't sleep. Death and sleep are two different, albeit related things.
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7 hours ago, Diaste said:
I guess if preachers and teachers had been found to be filled with integrity and truth in divine virtue then I may find the above admonition compelling.
As it is, I just find it to be demeaning and manipulative.
I listened to mankind and was led astray in many things.
It's the great lesson I learned over the past decades. Mankind cannot be trusted.
4Certainly not! Let God be true and every man a liar. As it is written:
“So that You may be proved right when You speak
and victorious when You judge.”
“There is no one righteous,
not even one.
11There is no one who understands,
no one who seeks God.
12All have turned away,
they have together become worthless;
there is no one who does good,
not even one.”c
13“Their throats are open graves;
their tongues practice deceit.”d
“The venom of vipers is on their lips.”e
14“Their mouths are full
of cursing and bitterness.”f
15“Their feet are swift to shed blood;
16ruin and misery lie in their wake,
17and the way of peace they have not known.”g
18“There is no fear of God
before their eyes.”h
So true. I've found that when someone has to toot their own horn often and loudly, beware! Someone led by the Spirit doesn't need to denigrate or act condescendingly. That's prideful flesh talkin'. Someone led by the Spirit knows that it is He who leads into truth so they simply present the truth and let the Holy Spirit do His job.
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17 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:
Don't take the mark no matter what they say.Confess Yeshua before men,be faithful unto death .
Good advice for everyone.
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9 hours ago, Revelation Man said:
Study harder, don't get frustrated, wow me with some deep truths I have yet to hear, I know them when I hear them.
If only that were true. I'm out.
WWIII. Is This It?
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What I see going on today is more of the Harlot being systemically dismantled. When the 10 horns deal her the death blow, then some serious fireworks start, including the rise of the man of sin and all his whizbangery.