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  1. I'd have to question the salvation of someone who's knowingly out to see what all they can get away with. I don't encourage worshiping the image any more than I do murder or stealing. The "sealed fate" notion goes against what Jesus taught about forgiveness. What about the people who won't try to repent because they've bought into the "sealed fate" lie? Why should they try? Either idolatry is forgivable or it isn't. Jesus either told the truth or He didn't. Simple as that. There is no "special exception." If you can't address that point, all other arguments are irrelevant. As I see it, only those who hadn't previously rejected the truth will be able to repent. This will include those who hadn't heard and those believers that were deceived by the signs and wonders. And, yes, believers can be deceived. Just look around. Revelation 14 speaks of those who actively persist in worshiping the image and receiving of the mark. Once someone repents, it no longer applies to them.
  2. The Measuring of the Temple

    I'd be inclined to agree if it wasn't for 11:2.
  3. Last Trump vs The Seventh

    I agree. Where do you see Zechariah 9:14 fitting in? Is it the last?
  4. Last Trump vs The Seventh

    When was the first trump?
  5. Thanks for the list. What I'm trying to say is that a life of obedience is the key. We are not bound to our eschatology. If a person acts on the teachings of Jesus, they are wise, and their house will stand, regardless as to whether their eschatology is askew or not. It's their lifestyle of worship that matters, not their level of prophetic studies.
  6. Unless you can prove how idolatry is an unforgivable sin, this is a false statement. Jesus stated that there is only one unforgivable sin and idolatry isn't it. It is true that receiving the mark and worshiping the image is a sin, the sin of idolatry. The plagues are God's corrective discipline and wrath. They are meant to call the deceived to repentance. They are wrath for those who refuse to repent. Before you quote Rev 14:9,11 to me, check out the verb tenses of "receive" and "worship." They describe someone who is presently, actively receiving of the benefits of the mark, and presently, actively worshiping the image. It does not indicate past activity, or it would have used past tense verbs. There is no indication of a "sealed fate." Those who persist in the mark and the image are the object of the plagues. No question. Those who persist to the end will end up as verse 11 describes. No question. However, idolatry is not blasphemy of the Holy Spirit and will be forgiven if repented of. I go into more detail here if you're interested.
  7. Be careful not to conflate "being prepared" (a spiritual quality) with "seeing things my way" (an intellectual quality). How do you think a pretribber would live differently if they changed to a view that wasn't pretrib? Would they not have the same faith in Christ? Would they not still fear God just the same?
  8. I've reflected on that question quite a bit. It seems that there is a universal assumption (among non-pretribbers) that those who believe in a pretrib rapture will not be prepared for the time of great distress, should they be incorrect in their eschatology. The conclusion I've come to is that preparedness is not a function of one's eschatology, but rather, their lifestyle. Spiritual discernment and endurance come from a lifestyle of obedience to the word of God. “Therefore everyone who hears these words of Mine and acts on them, may be compared to a wise man who built his house on the rock. And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and slammed against that house; and yet it did not fall, for it had been founded on the rock." Matthew 7:24-25 While an accurate eschatology might help to avoid landmines, it's not an imperative. Our focus should be primarily on the edification of believers, encouraging one another to love and good works. There is merit in studying the things to come but it takes a back seat to worshiping God in spirit and truth, being doers of the word and not hearers only, regardless of one's "tribbal" association. Should they face the time of great tribulation, I expect that plenty of pretribbers will be prepared because of their lifestyle worship of God.
  9. 9/23/17 Review

    This is certainly important. It's also important that we don't lean exclusively on our own understanding so that if things don't happen as we expect, we can adjust.
  10. The Measuring of the Temple

    Hey Sister, Thanks for the segue into v2. I agree completely. That's why John transitions seamlessly between the new covenant temple (body of Christ) and the holy city. The Gentiles or "nations" was a term synonymous with the godless since God chose Abraham, etc. The 42 month war against the saints is not a time for the measuring of the godless.
  11. The Measuring of the Temple

    Rev 11:1 is a reference to the spiritual temple because people are being measured. The jury's still out on 2 Thess 2. When John was instructed to measure the temple of God in Revelation 11, did he report back the measurements? Yes, he did, but not in distance. The new covenant temple of God isn't measured in distance. Why? Because it's new covenant truth . I'm not aware of any prophecies that talk about another temple structure until the kingdom of God is established at Christ's return. If God hasn't revealed it through His prophets, why should we expect it?
  12. The Measuring of the Temple

    It's neither. It's what the word of God states to be true. The new covenant temple of God is the body of Christ (corporately) and each believer (individually). I have no idea what you're getting at here. We are each the temple of God individually because His Spirit dwells within us. We are also the temple of God collectively because that's where God dwells. Collectively, we are the body of Christ, the temple of God. We each individually worship God in how we incorporate His truth into our lives. The altar is a place of sacrifice and worship. Some verses to reflect on: Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.” The Jews then said, “It took forty-six years to build this temple, and will You raise it up in three days?” But He was speaking of the temple of His body. John 2:19-20 The God who made the world and all things in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands. Acts 17:24 Do you not know that you are a temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? If any man destroys the temple of God, God will destroy him, for the temple of God is holy, and that is what you are. 1 Corinthians 3:16-17 Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and that you are not your own? 1 Corinthians 6:19 I don't know how else to say it, Marv. The old covenant temple has given way to the new covenant temple. The veil was torn in two and there's no going back.
  13. The Measuring of the Temple

    Definitely related.
  14. Last Trump vs The Seventh

    Semantics aside, I agree. Not going to split hairs.
  15. Last Trump vs The Seventh

    Yes, and I agree with that pattern. Seven, and seven within the seventh. When do you see Zechariah 9:14 taking place?