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Last Daze

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  1. Mystery Babylon status rev.17

    I agree with Revelation 11:8 being a reference to Jerusalem. I also agree that the "money people" influence world affairs. I don't agree that the money people's "base of operation" is in Jerusalem though. When the ten horns rise to power they loathe and completely destroy mystery Babylon the city. This happens before the rise of the man of sin. If Jerusalem is obliterated by the ten horns, where is he going to declare himself to be God? A pile of rubble? Where are the two witnesses bodies going to lay if Jerusalem is gone? Not to mention that Jerusalem is not a port city. There are just too many problems trying to equate Jerusalem with being mystery Babylon. That's all I really have to say on the subject.
  2. The lack of preaching the word in a church is kind of a falsehood by omission tactic, and is more subtle than outright lies. There is the appearance of godliness, but no substance.
  3. Mystery Babylon status rev.17

    John did not leave it at just "the great city" which proves my point. He put it in context for clarification. I'm not sure what it is about context that is throwing you but I think you should start there.
  4. Mystery Babylon status rev.17

    Precisely. And each in their context can be considered "the great city", just like Nineveh in it's day was called "the great city" by Jonah. I understand that Nineveh is no longer considered a great city, but it was. My point is that the term "the great city" must be understood in the context of how it's used. No one is debating singular or plural. I'm not sure where you came up with that. If I make a reference to the capital city of the sunshine state, and later made a reference to the capital city of the lone star state, am I referring to the same capital city? I used the same words "the capital city" to describe both. Of course I'm not. But that's what you're trying to do by focusing in on three words, "the great city", without regard for the context in which they're used and trying to make them out to be the same when they're not. Jerusalem is not mystery Babylon.
  5. Mystery Babylon status rev.17

    Why accuse me of accusing you? I stated what you clearly did. Did you honestly want me to pick between the two options you gave me? The devil is also the deceiver. Please don't try to deceive me, or anyone else, by using false dichotomies like that. It's called false for a reason. Jesus doesn't want His followers to engage in deception. Just because I called you on your fallacy doesn't mean I'm rude. No, it doesn't have to be one of those three options. There is a "the great city" that reigns over the kings of the earth, and there is a "the great city" figuratively called Sodom and Egypt. Trying to conflate the two just because they both contain the words "the great city" ignores the context in which they are called "great". John never said they were the same city, he just used the term "the great city" to describe both. Jerusalem is not Babylon the great. It simply doesn't fit.
  6. Mystery Babylon status rev.17

    I think you're posing a false dichotomy. I'm not interested in dishonesty.
  7. This is why Jesus cautioned against deception several times. He even led off with "See to it that no one misleads you." in Matthew 24.
  8. Mystery Babylon status rev.17

    Nineveh is also referred to several times as the great city. It depends on the context. I don't think that the bodies of the two witnesses are going to lie in the square of a city that was destroyed by fire and likely uninhabited. Also, Jerusalem is not a port city as is described in Revelation 18. And the ten horns which you saw, and the beast, these will hate the harlot and will make her desolate and naked, and will eat her flesh and will burn her up with fire. Revelation 17:16 Based on Daniel 7, the little horn destroys three of the ten horns and then he persecutes the saints for 3.5 years so the destruction of the world's capital precedes the destruction of the three by the little horn.
  9. Inquiring into the "Rapture"

    Does this resurrection also include the righteous who died during the millennium?
  10. And except those days should be shortened.

    Interesting thought.
  11. And except those days should be shortened.

    I think what's being cut short is the duration of the great tribulation. The man of sin is given authority over the saint for 42 months. That time duration does not change, neither is that entire time duration considered to be the great tribulation. The great tribulation starts at the beginning of the 42 months when the AoD occurs and continues for an unknown length of time. If it were to continue for the full 42 months, no flesh would be saved. The great tribulation comes to an end when the sixth seal is opened. I've heard speculation that the great tribulation lasts anywhere from 40 days to a few months. We simply don't know what its duration is in days but when the 6th seal is opened, the great tribulation is reduced to tribulation for the remainder of the 42 months. The man of sin's ability to persecute believers is encumbered by the seven plagues of the seventh seal, and maybe the image will lose its ability to identify those who won't worship it.
  12. What is Blasphemy against Holy Spirit?

    It's not so much the words that are spoken as it is the underlying cause. The good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth what is good; and the evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth what is evil; for his mouth speaks from that which fills his heart. Luke 6:45
  13. What will the mark of the beast look like?

    The unforgivable sin is specifically blasphemy against the Holy Spirit not just blasphemy. The people who take it are deceived by the signs and wonders the man of sin performs; they think he is God. They aren't taking the mark in willful defiance against God. They are deceived into thinking it shows their support for God. Anyway, I know most people's minds are already made up concerning the subject, but for those who what to examine it more thoroughly, its something to consider.
  14. What will the mark of the beast look like?

    Then hang on to this one: Truly I say to you, all sins shall be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they utter; but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness. Mark 3:28-29a Either all idolatry is forgivable, or Jesus lied. My faith is in what Jesus taught.
  15. What will the mark of the beast look like?

    Jesus infers that such is the case in this passage. Behold, I am coming like a thief. Blessed is the one who stays awake and keeps his clothes, so that he will not walk about naked and men will not see his shame. Revelation 16:15 The context of this verse is between the 6th and 7th plague as the armies are gathering together for Armageddon. Who is Jesus addressing here if it is not those who repented of the mark and image? Anyone who managed to make it to that point alive without ever having received his mark or worshiped the image are kept from this time of testing per Rev 3:10.