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Last Daze

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  1. The fact that Rev 16:15 is sandwiched between two verses that speak of the armies gathering at Armageddon leads me to believe that His exhortation is relevant to that specific point in time.
  2. I agree that we need to keep a proper perspective of things. Concerning us looking for His appearing, why does that need to be the next thing in sequence? Can't a person long for His appearance, to be with Him, yet realize that some things must take place first?
  3. How about the death of the first born where the blood of the lamb was absent? Regardless, the example is valid. God knows who is His and is able to protect His people from His wrath, wherever they are.
  4. God is able to protect His people from His wrath without removing them from the earth. The plagues of Egypt serve as an example. But on that day I will set apart the land of Goshen, where My people are living, so that no swarms of flies will be there, in order that you may know that I, the Lord, am in the midst of the land. Exodus 8:22 But the Lord will make a distinction between the livestock of Israel and the livestock of Egypt, so that nothing will die of all that belongs to the sons of Israel. Exodus 9:4
  5. Agreed. As verse 6 above points out, sleeping and being alert are opposed to each other. In a similar vein: “Be on guard, so that your hearts will not be weighted down with dissipation and drunkenness and the worries of life, and that day will not come on you suddenly like a trap; for it will come upon all those who dwell on the face of all the earth. But keep on the alert at all times, praying that you may have strength to escape all these things that are about to take place, and to stand before the Son of Man.” Luke 21:34-36 "Sleeping" is the equivalent of neglecting the will of God and allowing ourselves to become entangled in the things of this world. Those who do so won't have the spiritual strength to make the godly decisions required to escape the temptations of those days and stand before the Son of Man. So, yes, may we be among those who are sober and alert, those who worship God in spirit and truth by knowing and doing His will.
  6. I agree that the day of the Lord will affect different people differently based on whether they are in darkness or light. (I wonder if that has anything to do with lamps being lit or not?) The message of the flood analogy is that the wicked were carrying on as if life were normal, not realizing their impending doom. They didn't figure it out until it was too late. The main point of this thread is that the day of the Lord comes like a thief in the night which, according to Jesus in Rev 16:13-16, is something that is still yet to happen as the armies are gathering together at Armageddon.
  7. Thanks for the spelling lesson, Marilyn.
  8. The ones who say peace and safety are the wicked upon whom sudden destruction comes when Jesus returns like a thief. They are those who survived the plagues and are expressing confidence in the armies gathered at Armageddon. If I understand Daniel 12 correctly, there are 40 days between the resurrection of the two witnesses and the day of the Lord. During that time, the armies are gathering. This is between the sixth and seventh plague.
  9. It might be a good time to acknowledge that our finite intellect is incapable of fully understanding an infinite God.
  10. I can't really see "sudden destruction" as being the same as gradual destruction. "Coming like a thief" is what ties it together and places it as occurring after the armies gather, according to Rev 16:13-16
  11. Hello Marilyn, The peace and safety described in 1 Thessalonians is associated with the day of the Lord coming like a thief in the night. We know from the passage in Rev 16 that Jesus says He's coming like a thief as the armies gather for Armageddon. When you put those two together, the people saying peace and safety are doing so based on their perceived effectiveness of the armies that have been assembled together. I do believe that the U.N. has played a significant role in getting us to where we are today. That world government is the fulfillment of the feet of iron and clay in the great statue of Daniel 2. I realize that peace and security are relative terms and whether the U.N. has succeeded in that objective or not is subject to interpretation. The purpose for the U.N. is fading and will give way to the 10 horns whose authority is usurped by the man of sin. The destruction of the city which reigns over the kings of the world by the 10 horns will mark this change in world government.
  12. People don't typically go around declaring "peace and safety" as a normal part of their daily lives, at least not that I've observed. If such a declaration is made, it's because there's a reason for saying it. For you yourselves know full well that the day of the Lord will come just like a thief in the night. While they are saying, “Peace and safety!” then destruction will come upon them suddenly like labor pains upon a woman with child, and they will not escape. 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 Who are "they" and why do they say "peace and safety?" Clearly, "they" are the ones who are destroyed on the day of the Lord, but why are they declaring peace and safety? And I saw coming out of the mouth of the dragon and out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet, three unclean spirits like frogs; for they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the whole world, to gather them together for the war of the great day of God, the Almighty. “Behold, I am coming like a thief. Blessed is the one who stays awake and keeps his clothes, so that he will not walk about naked and men will not see his shame.” And they gathered them together to the place which in Hebrew is called Har-Magedon. Revelation 16:13-16 Jesus states that He is coming like a thief as the armies are gathering at Armageddon. It is this gathering of armies that provides the impetus for the wicked to declare "peace and safety." That raises the question of "peace and safety from what threat?" The armies gather together after the two witnesses are killed and the oppressive conditions of the plagues subside. People rejoice greatly at their death but the resurrection of the two witnesses and their being caught up into heaven is clearly seen as a threat. The plan of the wicked is to gather armies together as a countermeasure to deal with any ensuing retaliation. After a period of time has lapsed, the wicked express their confidence in the armies gathered together as a deterrent by saying "peace and safety." Then comes the day of the Lord, and our gathering to Him.
  13. I've put together a little pdf booklet that's a summation of decades of thoughts and musings on the return of Christ. If you're interested, you can download it from this link: The Last Trumpet on the Last Day.
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