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  1. Image of the beast

    I agree with this and would like to add that the mark is a part of the image of the beast and is used to expedite its implementation. It's the image that people must worship or forfeit their lives. The mark is just a means of hastening that decision. People will be forced to make a life or death decision quickly under very deceiving circumstances. The mark and the image are always mentioned together. Or . . . they have been deceived and are confused about it. The judgments of the plagues should dispel any illusions of the false prophet being God. The question for the deceived is, repent or double down on their idolatry?
  2. Last Trump vs The Seventh

    Have you considered that the seven trumpets and the seven bowls make up the seven plagues? That the trumpets and bowls begin and end the plagues respectively? Rev 6-11 is chronological. Rev 12-19 provides additional details for what takes place during Rev 6-11.
  3. I'm beginning to think he's a troll bot.
  4. After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could count, from every nation and all tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, and palm branches were in their hands; and they cry out with a loud voice, saying, “Salvation to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb.” And all the angels were standing around the throne and around the elders and the four living creatures; and they fell on their faces before the throne and worshiped God, saying, “Amen, blessing and glory and wisdom and thanksgiving and honor and power and might, be to our God forever and ever. Amen.” Then one of the elders answered, saying to me, “These who are clothed in the white robes, who are they, and where have they come from?” I said to him, “My lord, you know.” And he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. For this reason, they are before the throne of God; and they serve Him day and night in His temple; and He who sits on the throne will spread His tabernacle over them. They will hunger no longer, nor thirst anymore; nor will the sun beat down on them, nor any heat; for the Lamb in the center of the throne will be their shepherd, and will guide them to springs of the water of life; and God will wipe every tear from their eyes.” Revelation 7:9-17 If you're going to make a statement and then post a scripture reference, the scripture reference should be relevant to the statement. I don't see any relevance. Care to offer an explanation?
  5. I'm not going to argue semantics.
  6. I don't discount the importance of watching. Jesus said, "Behold, I've told you in advance." There is merit in understanding the signs and watching for them or He wouldn't have given them to us. However, if our lives are built on the sand, what value is it for us to be able to recognize the coming storm? I have to disagree here. The five wise virgins brought oil along with their lamps. They were prepared.
  7. I'm not a pretribber but I'd like to say that there's an inherent risk in trusting in eschatology for guidance, regardless of which [fill in the blank] trib a person subscribes to. Some are very adamant about how their view is the correct one, as you state, and the risk comes in when they allow their perception of correctness to be a substitute for preparedness. This is why I prioritize being ready. Being ready isn't about eschatological correctness. It has everything to do with worshiping God in spirit and truth. If a person isn't engaged in that kind of a lifestyle, the accuracy of their eschatology is irrelevant because they're going to fail. Spiritual discernment is what will be required in order for us to persevere in the faith, and that comes from being doers of the word, not from prognostication, regardless of how correct we think we are.
  8. Good observation. One thing to point out though in verse 16 is that the people left in those nations aren't necessarily a part of their army that went against Jerusalem, they are just part of the same nation. Verse 12 and following indicates what happens to the armies. You also get the sense from Zechariah 14 that the day of the Lord is not some protracted "day" that spans years before He returns.
  9. Very likely, yes. But since Christ rules the "nations" I think it goes beyond just Israelis. And it will come about that whoever calls on the name of the Lord will be delivered; for on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there will be those who escape, as the Lord has said, even among the survivors whom the Lord calls. Joel 2:32 Who are the meek that are blessed, who humble themselves and call on the name of the Lord and inherit the earth? And how are they called by the Lord and humbled? My thoughts are that in addition to the Israelis you mention, people from around the world who are humbled by the plagues and call on the name of the Lord and attain to the 1335th day will be in that number. I don't expect that there will be many because man will be scarcer than fine gold. Even so, reducing 7 billion by 99.9% still leaves 7 million (if I did the math right). And who will the multitude of immortal saints govern? Just thinking out loud.
  10. I've wondered that as well, especially now that we are more than 70 years beyond the date of the establishing of the state if Israel. A lot of dispensational pretribbers thought 40 years from that day was going to be significant (88 reasons for the rapture in 1988, etc.) and when that didn't happen, "this generation" changed from 40 to 70 years. And now that didn't happened. Ultimately, it will come down to our lifestyle worship of God in spirit and truth. That's how we acquire the discernment necessary to distinguish between good and evil. That's what will cause a change of mind. "Events" are subject to our interpretation of prophecy. Will there be a seven-year deal, or a rebuilt temple? Debatable, and it doesn't really matter. The choices we make are what matters, and what is it that guides our decisions? That which has been is that which will be, And that which has been done is that which will be done. So there is nothing new under the sun. Ecclesiastes 1:9 If a prophet or a dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder comes true, concerning which he spoke to you, saying, ‘Let us go after other gods (whom you have not known) and let us serve them,’ you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams; for the Lord your God is testing you to find out if you love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul. Deuteronomy 13:1-3
  11. My best guess is this: Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth. Matthew 5:5 At least it's a clue.
  12. The Plagues of Babylon

    "Calling His own"? What exactly does that mean? Look at the reason for the call: I heard another voice from heaven, saying, “Come out of her, my people, so that you will not participate in her sins and receive of her plagues. Revelation 18:4 It's a clear call for sanctification, to separate from the sins of Babylon.
  13. The Plagues of Babylon

    The destruction of Babylon the city, and the ensuing time of war, is what causes the little horn of Daniel 7 to become the larger horn in Daniel 7. The false prophet rips three of the ten horns out by the roots through displays of supernatural powers and everyone resigns to his authority as stated in Revelation 13. That's how the wars end. Right on the heels of that comes the Abomination of Desolation followed by the mark and the image which begins the time of great tribulation (Matt 24) also known as the time of great distress (Daniel 12). That covers Seals 2-5 and is a time when spiritual Babylon (the influence of Satan's kingdom) gains prominence. The zenith of the existence of spiritual Babylon will be just before the sixth seal is opened. Everyone will either be deceived by the Satan-possessed false prophet or martyred for refusing to worship the image. To the degree that she glorified herself and lived sensuously, to the same degree give her torment and mourning; for she says in her heart, ‘I sit as a queen and I am not a widow, and will never see mourning.’ For this reason in one day her plagues will come, pestilence and mourning and famine, and she will be burned up with fire; for the Lord God who judges her is strong. Revelation 18:7-8 The sixth seal is when God intervenes and rains on their parade. The seventh seal contains the plagues that will be poured out on those who belong to spiritual Babylon. That's why the angel says the following after Babylon the city is destroyed: I heard another voice from heaven, saying, “Come out of her, my people, so that you will not participate in her sins and receive of her plagues. Revelation 18:4 The implication is that those who continue to stay in spiritual Babylon will receive her plagues. The seven plagues of the seventh seal are God's judgment of the sin of idolatry for those who worship the image of the beast. They are for the purpose of conviction and repentance for those who have been deceived. Those who persist in utilizing the mark of the beast and worshiping the image will continue to receive of the plagues of Babylon. After the plagues have caused everyone to either repent or harden their heart, Jesus returns to destroy spiritual Babylon and those who would not come out of her.
  14. AMERICA: NEW ROME & BABYLON THE GREAT ("Come out of her, My people...")

    That pretty much confirms what I had suspected.
  15. AMERICA: NEW ROME & BABYLON THE GREAT ("Come out of her, My people...")

    Our views are so far apart that I don't see any benefit in hashing things out for the millionth time. Things will come to pass as they have been declared, not based on any consensus. All we have control over is how we respond to the things that come our way. Our response will be the result of our lifestyle worship of God, not our eschatology. The wise virgins built their lives on the teachings of Jesus. They knew to bring extra oil because they knew Him.
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