creativemechanic
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Sometimes-The Lord told me..... is just a synonym for I think and I believe God is supporting me.
It's the same excuse some people use to try to steal someones spouse claiming that God told them the other persons wife or husband was for them. GODS WILL NEVER CONTRADICTS HIS WORD.
The bible says submit to the authority places over you so saying God told you not to wear a mask is just being rebellious both to the law and GODS word.
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2 hours ago, missmuffet said:
Damaging any property is defacing property. It is against the law.
Yeah . That's why why said I don't approve of the vandalism
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6 hours ago, other one said:
I'm sick of hearing how black lives matter. Black Lives Matter is a Stalinist domestic terrorist group comprised of bigots, racists, anarchists and terrorists with three things in common: 1) They all hate America; 2) they're funded by taxpayer money and Soros money; and 3) they're all going to hell when they die, if they do not confess their sins, repent and turn from them, and accept Jesus Christ as their Savior.
The factual truth is that lives do not matter, be they black, white, gray or chartreuse, until a black person dies during a confrontation with white police officers.
If lives mattered, there would be no alcoholism; there would be no drug addiction; there would be no violent assaults; there would be no rape; there would be no pornography and prostitution; there would be no marital infidelity or spousal abuse. Because if lives mattered, the mentality that supports, encourages and applauds the aforementioned reprobate behavior would not be celebrated.
And, if black lives mattered, there wouldn't be over 20 million blacks who have been murdered by the industrialized systematic extermination of black children. If lives mattered, women as a collective wouldn't have had over 60 million children murdered.
If lives mattered, people wouldn't be fixated on color of skin. Rather they would be fixated upon integrity, truthfulness and honesty; they wouldn't celebrate the most reprobate forms of moral turpitude.
If lives mattered, Ambassador Christopher Stevens, Tyrone Woods, Glen Doherty and Sean Smith would be alive, because Obama would have moved heaven and hell to ensure their safe return from Benghazi – just as he did to return Army deserter and Muslim sympathizer Bowe Bergdahl. If lives mattered, journalist Danny Pearl would be alive today and with his family. He wouldn't have been beheaded because he was a Jew in Muslim territory. If lives mattered, the over 3,000 innocent Americans who were murdered the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, would still be alive.
If lives mattered, there wouldn't be north of a trillion dollars in property damages across the United States owing to domestic terrorist groups like Antifa and godless immoral opportunists who personify the zeitgeist where looting and stealing is viewed as supporting one's family.
If lives mattered, retired St. Louis City former police Capt. David Dorn would still be alive. He wouldn't have been murdered by black street trash looting a pawnshop. If lives mattered, those like CNN hosts Don Lemon and "Fredo" Cuomo wouldn't call rioters freedom fighters. If lives mattered, these thugs and hired trash wouldn't have blocked the streets to prevent firefighters from getting to the house they set on fire with a small baby inside.
If lives mattered, Pennsylvania health director Richard Levine (who specialized in mental health) wouldn't have destroyed his family by selfishly waking up one morning and deciding he wanted to be Rachel Levine in order to live out some fantasy of sexual perversion as reality. The same goes for others like him.
The idea that lives matter is a damnable heterodoxy and a corrupt demonic construct perpetuated as an excuse for riot and political gain.
If lives mattered, government would abide by and support the constitutional right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Government wouldn't endorse the edicts of malicious neo-Leninist governors who contrived draconian mandates that crippled states, spread fear and instituted Hitlerian practices of spying and reporting on neighbors and family.
Specifically, if black lives mattered, over 70 percent of homes with black families wouldn't be single-parent households, headed by women with children from multiple men.
If lives mattered, vile self-serving politicians and lucifarian community organizers wouldn't attack America as being racist. They would speak the truth that in America opportunity abounds and that the road to success begins with proper behavior, personal responsibility, and marketable educational and employment skills. Said marketable employment skills for most are best found and developed vis-à-vis trade schools and apprentice programs, not by accumulating massive tuition debt and then defaulting, which leads to severe handicap based upon poor credit. This limits one's ability to own or rent a home or purchase an automobile.
If lives mattered, Barack Obama wouldn't have embarked upon Fast and Furious, the illegal gunrunning operation that resulted in hundreds of innocent Mexicans being murdered as well as American border personnel. If lives mattered, Obama and his cohorts wouldn't have used lies and sabotage in their attempt to prevent Donald Trump from becoming president; because, as we know, their seditious criminal acts did destroy the lives of innocent people whose only crime was loyalty to candidate Trump and later President Trump.
Lives do not matter to those who blather same but are uninformed and mercilessly blind to the truth. If lives mattered, the false teachers/preachers espousing blasphemous pedagogy would not be given a platform from which to spread their revisionist lies and bastardization of historical fact.
If lives truly mattered, be they black or otherwise, true men and women of God would speak the truthful Word of God, not advocate sinful orthodoxies that promote sexual deviants to the pulpit, women to pastoral positions and the fallacious idea that God is a respecter of persons based upon skin color.
If lives really mattered – be they pink, green, black or stupid – there would be no need for me to point out everything I've just said.
Let's just hope no unsaved people are reading this. Cause that rant and the facts that it got likes just made ALL of us Christians look horrible
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17 hours ago, Michael37 said:
What did one statue say to the other statue?
Nothing
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3 minutes ago, ChemEngineer said:
Why don't you quote just a FEW of these other hypothetical doctors. Your point is disrespectful and inappropriate, not in keeping with the tenor and standards of this forum. I think the moderators say to "be kind." Telling me that citing an emergency room surgeon who is trying to quell violence is "pointless" is extremely thoughtless and irresponsible of you. Other people understand the doctor's point. Unfortunately you do not. That does not make it "pointless."
No disrespect meant. Sorry if I came off as such but the fact is, quoting one person's opinion or experience means nothing. Its just that. ONE mans experience.
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2 hours ago, ChemEngineer said:
Dr. Tyrone Wilson, MD
"During my 8 years as resident and trauma surgeon, I have treated 67 young black males with gunshot wounds.
NOT ONE OF THEM WAS SHOT BY POLICE OR A WHITE MAN.
NOT ONE... ZERO.
Will somebody please tell these idiotic white liberal people to stop apologizing for slavery!"
I don't get why people apologise for slavery. All the slavers and slave owners are dead . No-one alive did anything for it.
But your point is pointless. ONE quote from ONE doctor is just that. A quote from one doctor of his experience. There could be scores of other doctors saying the exact opposite.
I've never seen a cat actually catch a mouse in my life . Does it mean it doesnt happen?
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12 hours ago, ladypeartree said:
so all the looting and destruction is to get revenge on people who have been dead for so long most people cant even remember who they are ? Here in the UK certain groups are trying to put a major supermarket out of business ...never mind that it contributes a huge amount of food every year to food banks that mainly feed BAME groups ( fact ) only think that the guy who started the shop over 200 years ago was the grandson of a man who may or may not have bought slaves How brave these armed looters are and I am sure they give away all the stuff they steal from hard working people to others who are in greater need
Good one. I thin those looters are just crooks taking advantage and not caring anything about the issue
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38 minutes ago, The_Patriot2020 said:
Which no one else knew about where he was from...it's also ancient history. Your fixation on this is exactly what I'm talking about...it's history dude...get over it. I don't even see any further point to this discussion, as I see no point in arguing over statues. Have a good day
Same to you
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2 minutes ago, The_Patriot2020 said:
He also discovered the Americas, which is what he's honored for...
Seriously people get bent out of shape way to easy these days. It's been said...those who forget history are bound to repeat it.
A prime example of people getting offended to easy... everyone pulling down general Lee's statue. Well, had they done their research they would find not only did general Lee not own any slaves, but he was against slavery, while General Grant was a slave owner....
How can you discover a place when you found people already living there. The amerindians had already discovered and were living there centuries before he came . The same people he and his soldiers slaughtered.
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3 hours ago, The_Patriot2020 said:
Why someone would be offended by a statue of a long dead person is beyond me...who cares. If you don't like a statue walk on by...
I think its the principle of it that offends people . the fact that this person's gets honoured with one despite the horrible things he or she did. Thats probably why the people cheered when US soldiers pulled down a statue of sadaam in iraq.
A Jew would be justifiable angered by a statue portraying Hitler as a mighty leader. Well to a person of Amerindian descent, Columbus is their Hitler with a slave master rolled in too. The regime he set up killed hundreds of thousands of people that's why there are a few of them left on those islands.
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2 hours ago, BeauJangles said:
Well you see, here's the story on Chris. They warned him if he tried to sail around the world, all the ships would fall hopelessly off the edge. And he never made to America, because he wasn't looking for our country in the first place. Then he sailed a little too close and fell off the end of the earth. Poor Christopher.
But seriously, creativemechanic, I find no offense in Christopher Columbus at all. Even though he made a dunderhead of a mistake!
It's not the mistake that get people riled up- it's the murders genocide child prostitution slavery that he did that offends people and the fact that hes gets statues etc despite it . There's literally accounts of him having Americans chipped up for dogmeat and giving his men women to rape
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So the black lives matter protesters have been destroying statues of men who played roles in racist past e.g. one in London .
While I don't approve of it. Its blatant vandalism and it gives the movement a bad name what do you think of the statues staying up in the first place in this time when they represent people whos actions would seriously offend other people.
E.g.
Christopher Columbus has statues up in America that got destroyed even though he never actually landed there. What he did do was accidentally land in the Caribbean, enslave the locals slaughter them, even sold women and children into sex slavery. ( Seriously look it up.) He was so bad that he was imprisoned for it back in Spain .
His statue being up would serve no purpose other than offend people of amerindian descent.
2. King Leopold of Belgium had his statutes defaced probably due to the fact that he authorised a colonisation of the Congo that led tomillions of Africans being enslaved and murdered.
Imagine how a statue would offend Africans living there.
When you think about it.
Having statues of these guys up pretty much equates u having one up of Hitler to the different groups they damaged
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4 hours ago, Roar said:
I'm 70 years old now and was in High School in Arkansas during de-segrigation at my High School. I was raised in a racist society (including my own mother) and have seen it first had in this country ALL my life including in the CHRISTIAN CHURH. I said it when I was a young boy and I still believe it, that until everyone of every race and color can TRULY see the other as a God created brother and sister instead of the differences there can be and will be no peace or Love of God shown as Jesus himself TAUGHT!!!!!!!!!!
I had a black nanny and grew up around her children. I saw and felt NO difference between us. I never understood white and black churchs, white and black schools, and the HATE on both sides. What part of God created all mankind do people not understand!!! Does anyone believe Jesus died more for one race than another? God so loved all mankind He sent His only begotten Son to DIE for the person you HATE as well as for you! For God's Sake Please wake UP and UNDERSTAND!!!
John 3:14-17 New King James Version (NKJV)
14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 that whoever believes in Him should [a]not perish but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.
Wow. You've seen alot. It amazes me how some Christians are racist but good to see that you were able to break out with God's power.
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16 hours ago, LonerAndy said:
Well, if your argument before was you have to be black, so I cited black people, and now that's not enough... maybe you should reconsider your standards for information.
Not that. Not that at all. We're talking about police treatment of blacks .you have quoted people about being successful in life. 2 seperate areas . You just looked for information that satisfies what you already think
Truth is.Your mind is already made up so no sense trying to change it.
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12 hours ago, LonerAndy said:
Edited by Omegaman 3.0 - Videos are only allowed in the video area. If you want to watch it, it is at https://www.worthychristianforums.com/topic/254093-larry-elder-black-men-crushed-by-excuses-not-racism/
Start at 17:30.
I'll give you the summery.
He talks about many black people he grew up with, that destroyed themselves. And many blame others for their problems.
He mentions a kid named Perry, who was extremely talented, but constantly had an entitlement mentality. A 'you owe me' mentality. He ruined his life.
Eventually Perry says he was oppressed by the white man, and held down by systemic racism and on and on. Larry Elder, a successful lawyer and radio talk show host, sits down with Perry, and explains they had the same teachers, went to the same school, had the same opportunities.
People who say "if only you could live as a black man" are simply making more excuses. Larry Elders entire talk, is that the number one thing harming the black community in the US, is excuse making. Blame shifting. Refusing to take responsibility for one's own choices in life.
Because if only I could live as a black person, would depend on the black person, wouldn't it? Larry Elders, Clarence Thomas, Candace Owens, Colin Powel, Walter E Williams, and Thomas Sowell.
The list of successful black men who do not buy the BLM ideology that the world is racists, are overwhelmingly filled with people who simply... take responsibility for their own lives.
No one can argue the facts of the situation, which I posted before. Attacking the police will only result in more deaths.
And saying "if only someone could live as a black man", well there are plenty of black men that lived as black men, and agree with everything I posted.
Of course......
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On 6/6/2020 at 8:45 PM, LonerAndy said:
And the issue I have with that, is while this specific instance is a white cop, and a black criminal, many many officers are black, and you then have to claim that all Mexican officers are racists, and all black officers are racists, and all Asian officers are racists, because all of them have had to kill black criminals during encounters.
And that leads me to the conclusion, maybe every single officer white, brown, yellow, and orange.... maybe every single officer isn't racist. Maybe.... just maybe... people who fight with police die.
Romans 13:
- Every person should place themselves under the authority of the government. There isn’t any authority unless it comes from God, and the authorities that are there have been put in place by God. So anyone who opposes the authority is standing against what God has established. People who take this kind of stand will get punished. The authorities don’t frighten people who are doing the right thing. Rather, they frighten people who are doing wrong. Would you rather not be afraid of authority? Do what’s right, and you will receive its approval. It is God’s servant given for your benefit. But if you do what’s wrong, be afraid because it doesn’t have weapons to enforce the law for nothing.
What do you suppose "weapons to enforce the law" means? It means killing people. G-d himself has ordained authority, and law, and those that enforce that authority and law.
G-d himself, has setup a system where government enforces the law, even to death.
Now does that mean, when an officer accidentally kills a suspect, we don't review that? Sure.
But generally speaking, good people are not killed by police. Police are not just roaming around, killing people. Floyd was a career criminal, who has abused and victimized the public his entire life.
How many Black people, of good law abiding character, with zero criminal history, are randomly stopped by police and killed? Extremely rare.
I can only think of two examples, in ten years. Tamir, who had a gun, that looked exactly like a real gun, with the orange tip, had been blacked out, so it looked identical to a real gun in every way. People called police, Tamir pointed his real-looking gun at them, and they shot him. Tragic, but not racists.
And then there was Castile. The day before, an armed robber, had knocked off a quick-mart. Castile matched the description perfectly. Additionally, Castile had a gun with him in the car. The gun was for personal defense. The officer had mistaken Castile for the armed robber, and Castile had a gun. Absolutely tragic, but not racists.
Generally speaking, police are looking to make the world a better place, and are facing deadly criminals. They have no intention of harming innocent people.
That's two people, in the last 10 years, where officers killed actually innocent black people. It's not often.
Does that mean we shouldn't look at those events, and see if there is anything we can improve? Sure.
But here's the reality. Police officers are less likely to kill a black man, than a white man. That's the facts. Their perception, is just that. Perception. How would we fix a perception? We can't.
The last time there was mass protests, police simply stopped paroling black areas. Murder and crime skyrocketed.
https://www.npr.org/2016/03/11/469974819/chicago-murder-rate-spikes-less-aggressive-policing-blamed
Happened in both Chicago, and in Baltimore.
More black deaths by the hundreds. But none by police, because the police simply didn't go to those areas. They didn't stop the criminals.
That is the only way to have no deaths by police, is by not having police. And this problem is becoming a crisis.
https://wjla.com/news/nation-world/police-staffing-shortages-a-nationwide-trend
Massive police shortages across the entire country, and this was before the recent problems.
I'm not going to patrol, if I know that if I am confront by criminals, and one dies, that I'm going to be going to prison.
I'm not going to be an officer, if I know that if you order me to clear the street, and an old man blocks my path, and I push him out of the way, and he falls down... that now I'm going to be suspended and investigated for it.
What do you think is going to happen when the police force simply stops showing up for work across the this
Reading this makes me think some people need to somehow magically live as a black person for a year and see if their mindset stays the same.
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This pretty much sums it up
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I am so glad that thr christians in this thread are universally agreeing at how awful and uncalled for the action by the police was.
In a previous incident I was disgusted at some of the responses and blame shifting that was being done and not focusing on the triggering issue of police brutality in blacks.
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1 hour ago, Ray12614 said:
Thanks for this thread. It shed a little different light for me on this subject. I at least now see a little of why some of my brothers and sisters standing behind the black lives movement. They are not saying all lives don't matter, they are saying that there is still a problem with how the black community is being treated, and how some (not all I might add) of the bad policemen are treating them.
One comment to add is that this is part of the fulfillment of Matthew 24:7 - Nation against Nation - Strongs reference G1484 which is Greek for Ethnos which not only has to do with a people, or country, but also Race. As we get closer to the return of Jesus, His words about what we should expect to see will become more and more intense (labor pains). Unlike history, today we have viral videos which record events and make them viewable on the internet to millions. That only inflames hatred where there was none to begin with.
My main concern here is for the People of God, and how they respond to this crisis; IF we believe that God hears our prayers, and IF we believe that He answers our prayers, then our first response must be to Pray! Then (and only after praying), we need to stand up for the down-trodden and those who have been hurt, irregardless of the situation. Open ended prayer will give us our God's perspective on what we should and should not do.
Thank you for posting this thread, it has helped me get a little different perspective on Black Lives Matter.
Grace and Peace . . . Ray . . .
Glad to hear that
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I think the problem is thar different experiences give perspectives that's why there's a problem with this.
Some blacks are seeing it from a standpoint that due to all these murders with very poor response by the law they need to let it be known that our lives matter too hence the slogan.
Other races who may not get those experiences cant understand and don't see the need for the emphasis on black lives .
8 hours ago, LonerAndy said:No.
We have researched this numerous times. Police are statistically less likely to kill a black man, than a white man, specifically because they are afraid of being called racists.
So the bottom line is, blacks are less likely to die by police than almost any other group, including Mexican, Asian, or Native, and white.
Saying Black Lives Matter, is basically trying to elevate one group to a special status, and that is awful and selfish.
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1 hour ago, OneLight said:
In 2017, which is the most current data I can get at the moment, here are the stats:
Arrests -------------- deaths from police
White: 5,626,140 ------ 457
Black: 2,221,697 ------ 223
Here is an interesting article: https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-09-29/race-and-homicide-in-america-by-the-numbers
You are sticking to the fact that more whites get killed by police than blacks but didn't I point out before that there are far less blacks in America than whites? So arrests are gonna be less.
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41 minutes ago, Rick_Parker said:
What I am opposing is the notion that America is an inherently racist society. The the police in this county are on the whole racist. That is what is being aid here. If someone wants to prevent themselves from being killed by the police, then cooperate with them. More than likely, you would be released. No matter what color you are. I am comparing because you and the others who are protesting are saying that blacks are being targeted by the police because they are racist. That is patently not true. And the facts bear that out. But I guess that the facts really don't matter now, do they?
Well. One bad apple spoils the reputation of the bunch. But you can't use the cooperate and be safe excuse seeing the multiple videos of non resisiting, non violent or already detained black men who still got shot or choked to death when they were no threat. It shows something is wrong.
And why don't you hear of these incidents in other multi racial 1st world countries UK, Canada, European nations. Blacks live there too don't they?
People's lives are more important than reputations
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6 minutes ago, ReneeIW said:
I agree with this. Btw, anyone can get a poster and write black lives matter on it and start marching and the media will report that “black lives matter”’are on the scene and then the divisions start. I have seen this happen with my own eyes.
I would suggest there are racists who don’t like blacks, Latinos and the list goes on, but they would never hurt anyone. This is about bad policing and the police not being accountable to anyone. You can be as racist as you want to be, but if you know you’re going to lose your pension, your job and your freedom, you will not act on those racist feelings by physically harming someone.Racism needs to be taken out of the discussion and the sole focus should be on police accountability, or we aren’t going to get anywhere.
I can't argue with that. You're like a breath of fresh air in this thread.
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18 minutes ago, ChickenCoop said:
It is interesting to see by pictures in the news of the 4 officers involved in this situation two are white, one is black and one is Asian. Makes one wonder if this should really be considered a hate crime based on race.
Maybe. Maybe not. Noone knows what was going through his mind. The image of a white officer with a knee on a black man's neck for 8 minutes with a history of black abuse by white officers doesn'thelp the reputation
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