By Faith

"Amazing "  too Faith, is the fact that you feel the need to launch into an ad hominem attack on me saying I have "zero" awareness of those that speak tongues and imply that I am both ignorant and judgmental. You know zero about me, my experience or my knowledge.   Are you by any chance a practicing Charismatic?  "Hate"  is a very nice word you felt compelled to use just because I raised concerns after researching her.

 

The scripture tells us to check out these self professed teachers with the scriptures in order to not fall prey to false teachings,  and to warn & protect the body of Christ.  You can view me the Sheepdog type.   So pour out your hate and use slander,  I couldn't care less.  I will call it as I see it.

 

She is a false teacher. If she is NOT dealing in the HOLY SPIRIT  according to the scripture so what spirit is she dealing in?  There are only two kinds.  I don't want the one she has got.

Jesus said you know them by their fruit. I went and checked out Siris, and all the joining ministers. They don't preach sin, they preach the blood of Jesus, they call Jesus Lord, they don't preach homosexuality acceptance. The work they do is solid, have helped a whole lot of folks. They work in some of the most dangerous places. 

I am not sure how you need protected sitting at home behind a computer acting as judge. You read someone else article, and judged another. Yet many are eating, many have water, many have schools. You have done what?

A satanic spirit does not the Work of God, and could care less if people eat or not. A person is known because they love the Brother and Hedi puts her life on the line for these people. 

Then you cry I am using Hate and slander? I am trying to get you to wake up so you don't have to be judged unfairly the same. 

Mormons do good things abroad and feed people.  There are all kinds of secular humanitarian organizations that risk their lives, feed thousands and good things just like the Bakers.   That Heidi Baker does good things doesn't in any way negate the fact that she is false teacher and has very errant theology.

I had two Mormon girls come to my door, heard the neighbor being disrespectful to them. I don't have to agree with someone's theology to see some effort and willingness to step out for what they believe is Jesus, and be mistreated. 

I downloaded the preview and installed it asked it to leave all my programs and settings in place.

 

The install was simple and pain free, and it did seem to have saved all my programs and setting and accounts etc.

 

Things is the start menu stopped working after a few re-boots ( a known bug) aside from that it seems great the most painless install i have ever done.

Well, I am sure it's just as easy to use as Window's 8 which I am on right now. Windows 8 did have me confused for about 15 minutes when it booted with no desktop and these colored block apps. 

I hope windows 10 beats windows 7 which was the best windows to come along since XP. 

I do not doubt there are humble places where miracles happen through prayer but having some awareness of the charismatics I did a little research on Heidi Baker. 

 

http://www.ivarfjeld.com/2012/10/29/the-deceptive-talk-of-Heidi-baker

 

http://www.worldviewweekend.com/news/article/heidi-baker-mystic-mystic-does

 

  The interview with the 700 Club only gives part of the story.  It is only a half truth, and therefore a deceptive message she told.  I think it is suspect given what Heidi has been involved with. The "power" she talks about doesn't sound like the Holy Spirit.  She and her husband are of the ilk of the Lakeland Revival , Todd Bentley--the Florida Out Pouring and the Toronto Airport Church  Out Pouring where people were so called  "slain" in the spirit" , ecstatic laughter etc....

 

Pastor John Macarthur  calls these people out --- and explains what it is about it in his talk and book called " STRANGE FIRE" .   It is dangerous stuff. If my links don't work just do your own search on the net. I am healthily skeptical and cautious when it comes to these types of claims.

Well, your awareness of people that speak in tongues is hovering about zero. Unlike a lot of us, Heidi works globally with Iris that feeds 1,000's of kids, builds schools, goes to places where they kill Christians, the list is long. 

So easy to sit back at a computer, be a judge of those doing something for the Lord. The results and numbers speak for themselves though.

I don't mind questions, I hate ignorance and judges who have not done a 1/10th of what Heidi is doing, putting her life constantly on the line, for people that have nothing. 

She might even seem a bit strange to me, but then I don't know what it takes to do what she has done, and what she has had to believe God for every single day. I imagine, that could make someone a bit different than what we are use to.

amazing.

It's only slander if it isn't true.   The people I mentioned are false prophets and they have been proven to be false prophets and they are false teachers, teaching people things that are not in Scripture.

 

I am simply not a gullible sheep that buys into the heretical Charismatic claptrap.

 

 

Also, it really bothered me that the Evangelist's prayer was usually nothing more than a repetitive citation demanding the pain to go away. There was no "If it is Your Will, Father"...there was just a "spell" so to speak. There is no power in words...he made it seem like if the kids just said those words, God would definitely heal. Ummmm....NO. He told the boys that any believer could do it. Even if I did believe that some had the gift of healing today...I would NOT believe that EVERYONE has it.

 

Just so others know, this is the video I am talking about. 

Gossip is when you spread rumors about people behind their back, particularly when you don't even know if they're true.

 

Slander is when you knowingly and publicly defame a person's character by falsely accusing them of some egregious wrong doing.  It is particularly serious because it can cause them undue hardship like the loss of their job.

 

Slander when done in newspapers or in some other public written media is called 'libel.'    Both slander and libel are prosecutable offenses.

Are you not the king of this though? A whole lot of threads you continually put down other ministers based on your limited revelation. 

Or, is their some form of reasonable excuse to judge some another persons servant who is able to make the stand? 

By Faith,

 

 I read and speak Hebrew and I know how  this word is used.  It is hitav-oo and thus tavah is in the hiphil form.  In the hiphil It means to cause pain.  It is used here and only here in the Bible and is used to mean that it causes emotional grief.   It does not mean, "limit."  It doesn't mean that God was unable to operate sovereignly.

 

Yes, they did not get to enjoy what God wanted them to have, but that doesn't mean God was limited.   God responded to their unbelief by not allowing them to enter the promised land.

 

But that is not the same thing as we were originally talking about when it Charismatics claim that God is limited by unbelief.    Charismatics like the Copelands, Joyce Meyer, Creflo Dollar, Benny Hinn and others believe   teach that God is not sovereign that he cannot operate legally in our world and thus if we don't permit him to operate, He cant.   They argue that the reason that God offered Abraham a covenant is that God needed the legal right to operate in our world on the grounds that this world belongs to Satan, via the fall of man in the Garden.

Will you Stop keeping in your mind all those WOF teachers. This prejudice Hinders talking with you.

It started with me saying God is limited by unbelief. You stated God is not limited by unbelief. 

There is a big disconnect here with post after post before being able to get a connection with you. Nobody said God if He wanted could stick his head through the clouds and say "Everyone bow" and every knee on the planet would hit the ground. No question in my mind, and that would be despite those that did not believe in him.

Then you say because of unbelief, God did not give them the things God had planned for them. Certainly God said I am giving you the promise land, then in Numbers 14 God said I am breaching my promise to you. Why? 

Those people did not trust God in anything, despite God showing himself strong. Had God just taken them to the promise land anyway, it would not have been long they would have lost it all again. 

So, if God set the system by where Unbelief in Him, makes him say that man will receive nothing of me, then for the person who did not trust God or believe what He had said has limited God by their actions toward God.

So, by your last statement (Finally) I agree. 

You get this idea that by some will of our own we make God do this or that. We limit God through our own ability. That is what appears you think some believe. 

Faith, does what God says do, not what we want to do. It's only though obedience of faith in What God wanted and said do we see miracles. Not of ourselves, or some force of faith we have. 

Faith does it God's way, though it may not look like it will work. That is faith, and to think you can march around a city and have it just fall would take that faith.

Blessing Shiloh. 

 

Okay, so this upgrade won't affect any applications you have previously downloaded?  Your saved files remain intact, all of your settings stay the same?

 

Having lost things in the past, all I can say is: Always. Have. A. Backup. Stashed. Somewhere.

 

Good idea there.

So the Microsoft Word I just downloaded from the MS website will be lost if I do the upgrade?   I'm out, then.

Your MS Word lic will transfer to Windows 10 and will work with Windows 10.

Apps that were introduced in Windows 8 will run fine in Windows 10. Directx will run everything that worked for 7 and 8.

Windows 10 will try to run the same as windows 7 and 8, so games and things should by theory work for Windows 10 that worked before. That is a theory though and software manufacturers may have to release Window's 10 patch for things that don't work.

Windows 10 is heavy based on windows 8, minus a bunch of things people did not like. There should be no issues.... but backing up pictures, songs or things you can't just install again is a good idea.

The best choice is to start fresh with Windows 10 on a clean hard drive. Fresh is always better than just upgrading and keeping the junk registry that has been cluttered through the years.

 

Unbelief does not limit God and none of the verses say that God is limited by unbelief.   The verses in Hebrews says that the children of Israel could not enjoy the promised land because of their unbelief.  They don't say that God was in any way limited by their belief.

 

Jesus upbraided the disciples in Mark 4 for their lack of faith and fearfulness.  But their lack of faith did not hinder Jesus.

 

All things are possible to them that believe, but that is tempered by what is in line with God's sovereign will.   James was also talking about what is in line with God's will, and specifically he was talking about wisdom.

 

Anyone can string verses together and make the Bible say whatever they want it to say.  False teachers are good at that.   

 

 58And He did not do many miracles there because of their unbelief.  

 

Perhaps it is not that He is limited - perhaps it is just His policy or choice!

 

There are divine set spiritual laws God set in place, and won't break despite wanting to help us. Jesus was stopped because of their unbelief, but most important their total lack of respect for him while he was there put them in a position to not receive from him what He had to offer. 

Let's face it, if you think I am dumb, and can't do things right, the despite me knowing how to paint, may stop you from asking me to be the one to pain your house, even for free. So you would not receive what I was offering you, even for free based on what you thought of me. 

They Saw Jesus no better than they where........ "Is this not Joseph boy who we grew up with? Who is he coming in here with all this revelation?"

Satan, the other factor:

For some odd reason, by what the Lord and Satan worked out long ago, the devil has rights. Even the devils accused Jesus and rebuked him in the name of God for coming to torment them the before it was time. They felt Jesus has no legal ground to operate on earth in the Power of the Son of God. Jesus has a flesh body though, and was born of a women which gave him the right. 

unbelief, sides with the devil who tells you that your not going to make it. Unbelief sides with God not supplying all your needs, and fear things are not going to turn out well. 

We can't pick and side with one Kingdom, and expect the other Kingdom to just over run who we take sides with. The Kingdom we take sides with, is the one that will rule over us. 

So, it's not that God could not just squash the devil and do what God really wants to do. However, If God did that, He would have to violate his own Word, and eternal spiritual laws He set fourth. Those Laws work for people, or they work against, everything is being upheld by the Word of his power, and God is not changing what is already been declared. 

Some think Sovereign means God is an outlaw, and does what He wants, when He wants. Sovereign to God is that He had it all planed out perfectly the first time, spoke, and the right thing stood fast and correct though eternity.

By Faith, the word used for "limit"  in Ps. 78:41 is hitav-oo  and it means to "grieve."  it doesn't mean that God was limited. 

 

My eyes are not closed.  I just don't buy into your false teaching that seems to diminish the sovereignty of God

I already told you that you would say the scripture does not mean that. Tavah -scraping the pieces together through confusion and grief was translated limited in the YLT (Youngs litteral) the KJV the Web Bible 

NLT translates it into frustrated. You can' work with someone who constantly frustrates you.

NIV says vexed, something they did. 

The whole descriptor of the Word and the way it was translated is in line with Hebrews. They did not enter in because of unbelief, and unbelief limits what God can do for someone not in agreement with him.

 Why???? Let your Sovereign God Doctrine shut your understanding. Sovereign is not even in scriptures, You cling to something not even mentioned, and allow it to shut off understanding. 

Unbelief does not limit God and none of the verses say that God is limited by unbelief.   The verses in Hebrews says that the children of Israel could not enjoy the promised land because of their unbelief.  They don't say that God was in any way limited by their belief.

 

Jesus upbraided the disciples in Mark 4 for their lack of faith and fearfulness.  But their lack of faith did not hinder Jesus.

 

All things are possible to them that believe, but that is tempered by what is in line with God's sovereign will.   James was also talking about what is in line with God's will, and specifically he was talking about wisdom.

 

Anyone can string verses together and make the Bible say whatever they want it to say.  False teachers are good at that.   

Heb_4:6  Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:

Here is your scripture Shiloh, why do I even have to post it? You can't connect dot 1 to dot 2, on and on about what Shiloh believes despite the scriptures I give.

They limited God because of unbelief!!!!! Now go tell me the scripture does not really say that. Go ahead.

Believe what you want, I have wasted enough of my time. I have been trying to get you to see something, and the eyes stay closed.

Mike

God is not limited by unbelief.   God worked all kinds of miracles for Israel in the wilderness in spite of their unbelief.  He healed Naaman in spite of his unbelief.   Jesus calmed the storms in spite of the disciple's unbelief.  The notion that I can limit God or thwart God's plans is utter arrogance and goes against Scripture.

 

God is the one in control and He does as HE pleases, not as I please.   He is not up in heaven waiting for me to believe good enough for Him to operate in the earth.   God owns this planet, he owns everyone in it and everything in it.   He is sovereign and in control. 

Naaman had faith, He said just pray and he would be healed. His issue was not wanting to wash in the river He was told to wash in.

The Disciples faith had nothing to do with the Storm, it was Jesus who spoke to the Storm and His faith.

God worked Miracles on the behalf of Moses who God was working with, God also listened to Moses the times God wanted to be done with Israel. 

In my former denomination (Presbyterian Church in Ireland)  there is moves afoot to sanction a pastor who can out in support of the Republic of Ireland's yes vote in the gay marriage referendum, while I agree that sanctions are a good thing in this case, I want to ask the question can there ever be unity between theologically conservative and theologically liberal strands of Christian thought? Also how d we define what is conservative and liberal (I am not talking politically)?

There is no such thing as Christian thought on supporting gay marriage. Light does not mix with darkness and the Kingdoms are not divided. Let them who name the Lord Jesus depart from iniquity. 

Good thing we don't base theology on someone else's alleged claims.

Certainly nobody has any claims who do their own things, and not out using their faith as the women in the video. I am not used in healing miracles sitting at home and going to church every Sunday. 

If you have stepped out and laid hands on one in Jesus name and they were healed of something, then stories like this are not hard at all to believe. 

Mike.

So my friend tells me that his ex wife cheated first and then he cheated on her, now they are divorced 5 years. Does he fall under the exception Jesus gave. Even tho he cheated after?

Thank you.

I am assuming they were both married at the time when the cheating happened.

A man must write a bill of divorcement and hand it to the wife. If He lays with another women while married to someone, then He has committed adultery against his wife whom He is still married to.

So, your friend has committed adultery as the wife had no bill of divorcement.

Jesus talked about "putting away" and taking someone else. This was an act to keep control over a women, and take another women. God said if the man find anything unclean in her, He must write her a bill of divorcement before taking another wife. Without that bill, she was not considered free and property of someone else. She could even be stoned for it without the proof of the divorce.

Would he be able to remarry?

 

 

You want scriptural answers I suspect, not opinions. 

 

What did Jesus says? Follow along with me....................

 

Jesus makes a statement that many believe once your divorced, you can't Marry again. That is not what Jesus said.

 

And the Pharisees came to him, and asked him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife? tempting him. And he answered and said unto them, What did Moses command you? 

(Mar 10:2-3)

 

Jesus is asked if it is Lawful to put away your wife. Put away was a practice of not giving your wife a bill of divorcement but keeping her bound. Jesus answered them and asked, What did Moses tell you?

 

Moses said this.

 

When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house. And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife

 

You just can't put her away, you must give her a bill of divorcement then send her away with proof of the divorce. Once she is divorced, she can marry or He can marry again.

 

And they said, Moses suffered to write a bill of divorcement, and to put her away. And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept. But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. 

(Mar 10:4-9)

 

They just asked Jesus about just putting her away, and Jesus helped their memory about what Moses did say.

 

And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her. And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery. 

(Mar 10:11-12)

 

So, you just can't put away the wife, you have to give her a bill of divorcement then put her away as Moses said. If she is just put away but marries another, she is still married to the first and that is committing adultery. Once divorced, you can marry again.

 

Keep in mind though, Jesus said this was given for the hardness of someones heart. You can divorce, and Marry but it's not God's way to break a covenant. 

 

His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry. But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given. For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it. 

(Mat 19:10-12)

 

So, staying married as what God joined together, men should not separate, not all can bare that or receive that. Some marriages are so bad, both people can't figure out where to start to get things fixed and don't want to fix them. Jesus gave an example of a Eunuch or someone that won't marry or castrated person. 

 

Short answer, He can get married again. Whatever sin happened, and be forgiven anyway.

 

 

 

 

 

So my friend tells me that his ex wife cheated first and then he cheated on her, now they are divorced 5 years. Does he fall under the exception Jesus gave. Even tho he cheated after?

Thank you.

I am assuming they were both married at the time when the cheating happened.

A man must write a bill of divorcement and hand it to the wife. If He lays with another women while married to someone, then He has committed adultery against his wife whom He is still married to.

So, your friend has committed adultery as the wife had no bill of divorcement. 

Jesus talked about "putting away" and taking someone else. This was an act to keep control over a women, and take another women. God said if the man find anything unclean in her, He must write her a bill of divorcement before taking another wife. Without that bill, she was not considered free and property of someone else. She could even be stoned for it without the proof of the divorce.

I think he has the right to divorce under the exception... not sure about the remarriage part though?

Let me help you.

The fruit of these kinds of charlatan ministries has been that the teachers and leaders and get rich and the poor gullible people who allowed themselves to be exploited get nothing, except the realization that they have been lied to.

 

 

The flaw in your  argument is that I am not saying that all Charismatics and Pentecostals are hypocrites or liars or immoral.   But in the grand scheme, the charismatic teachers have been the primary purveyors of false doctrines, and the lousy prosperity garbage and false doctrine that the movement is famous for.

 

Again, let me know when you provide actual documentation of resurrections...

I have seen cancer healed, aids healed, the girl I laid hands on had her stomach put back together as someone had sown it together (I did see those medical reports) My friend raised his friend back to life, verified by many there who had been dead all night long, pronounced dead by the paramedics and put in a bag. 

Now why don't we see limbs grow back? I have never laid hands on anyone to get their limbs back, so I have no experience in that. 

One thing I do know is that people used to do these things for the Lord sacrifice their time and life to spend it in the Word and with the Lord. It's really a all day thing, every day. They shut out TV, the World, and focus on the Lord and the Word. 

Even the Apostles said we should not be waiting tables, but give ourselves time in prayer and with the Lord.

So, I fully believe if we will sell out completely to the Lord, remove all the unbelief of I have never seen it before, then all things become possible. 

If God can heal cancer, make a man out of dust, then fixing a missing limb is not hard for him at all. It's hard for us to stop walking after what we see, and start believing in a God that is not limited by anything but unbelief. Even Israel did not enter in because of unbelief, ought to be an example to us, but to many it's not. 

Until people go from God can, to God will. The people won't experience much God can do. Even David had enough sense to say 1,000 at my side shall fall, 10,000 at my right hand, But..it shall not come neigh me. David had no question if He was coming back from battle, and it did not matter how out numbered they where. Today we question, will God? Is it God's will to help? Will it be in some mysterious way we won't understand until we get to Heaven?

I really don't see the point you're e making...  

 

I am simply skeptical about a lot  of the supernatural claims that are made particularly when they are soooo  utterly fantastic and yet NEVER actually documented.  Many of the teachers and evangelists that make these claims have such a bad track record of dishonesty that I think they need to be questioned and challenged.

How would you handle it then if you were leader/Pastor of a church where people were claiming to be healed? One minister promised to publish all the medical reports, but he never got around to doing that. Medical reports are private, and can be forged to look like real doctor reports. I am not sure how you would go about it without someone claiming fraud no matter what route you have taken.

Looking at youtube, there seem to be some verified miracles. One cured of Autism by just listening to Gloria Copeland tapes for 2 years, pretty amazing how standing on the Word effects things. Would these not be enough? 

So, how would you handle it if it were your church?

I think the queen of heaven talked about in Jeremiah is Ishtar not the Blessed Mary.

First of all we do not worship Mary, only revere her.

Second, please take observation of time that Jeremiah was written in.

Thirdly, We don't call Mary - Queen of Heaven.

Fourth and last- please do some research before "ASSUMING" things.

Thank you.

HAIL, HOLY QUEEN, Mother of Mercy, our life, our sweetness and our hope! To thee do we cry, poor banished children of Eve; to thee do we send up our sighs, mourning and weeping in this vale of tears. Turn then, most gracious advocate, thine eyes of mercy toward us, and after this our exile, show unto us the blessed fruit of thy womb, Jesus. O clement, O loving, O sweet Virgin Mary! Pray for us, O Holy Mother of God. That we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ.

No said that the Lord doesn't heal.    The problem is with the fantastic, unverifiable reports of things like resurrections that is at issue.

To judge, or at least get a more clear picture, you would have had to Pastor a church where people get healed. We are all human with the possibility of having wrong thinking. It's easy to sit back and judge things if you never been in that position. 

When I was asked to Pastor the Sunday morning service of a church, had full control, just teaching, some folks had faith to be healed and were healed. One guy who said he was healed after Hearing me speak claimed to have the doctors report and said the doctors were just stumped on how a whole bunch of cancer can just vanish. He still tells folks about it today and was the father of my praise and worship leader. I don't doubt what they told me. 

So Shiloh, it's very easy to start thinking. 

If I start posting these testimonies online, then that might bring more people in. More people coming in, means more people get helped. 

At least that is what you tell yourself. 

 

No, it's not, but that's beside the point.     The question is whether or not it is God's will to heal, or not.

I understand the question,

Is it God's will that everyone be saved?

 

Was a time I was very Anti-Catholic.  I read nothing but Chic tracks to know the evils of the Catholic church, how they are the Antichrist and how Rome tried to destroy the Word of God. It blinded me  because there was hatred there, a devil deceiving me, and I was to stupid to see it at the time. Thank God we don't have to stay rock stupid, but the Lord helps us see things. 

I have my sons doctors report, and the parents of the girl I laid hands on during me preaching at a church, brought me their daughters doctors report and showed me. 

I don't need a doctors report though to know that the Lord heals, I had to know that before the doctors report was produced. 

John 10:10

10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

KJV

some miss out on life because of their unbelief and some miss out of life abundantly because of their unbelief. Jesus was the healer of all healers but could NOT heal some for their unbelief.

Mark 6:5-6

5 And he could there do no mighty work, save that he laid his hands upon a few sick folk, and healed them.

6 And he marvelled because of their unbelief. And he went round about the villages, teaching.

KJV

Matt 13:58

58 And he did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief.

KJV

Jesus came to destroy the works of the devil. 

There is nothing in the New Covenant that guarantees healing, prosperity or whatever.   Jesus redeemed us from the curse of the law.  He did not bear the curse.   The curse of the law is spiritual death and separation from God.   Jesus redeemed us from that, but did not die spiritually himself.    Jesus did not die to make people rich or healthy.  He didn't die so they could have big cars and big houses or fancy suits.  

 

Jesus did not gives his life to satisfy your petty carnal lusts.   He died to save us from sin and death and to give us eternal life.

I believe Christians should claim more healing than they do tho, and more people would be healed if they did this. Seriously, is it so hard a thing to do? It is quoting a bunch of words and expecting. Not difficult. Eventually God may even provide an answer that something in until the natural will cure you, or go to THIS doctor, or something. Why can't we have faith in that area too?

Jesus certainly has not changed, bore the curse of the Law, never turned one person down for healing. Never said now, now, God is just mysterious in all his ways, perhaps God is letting you be sick to get some twisted form of Glory, unable to get it else where. It could be God is building charter in you. You just never know what God may do.

We certainly need to call those things that be not as though they are, say we are the healed and side with the word. Certainly natural studies show people survive things being positive that the doctors said could not be cured, how much more staying in line with something God said.

Thing with God is we are the seed of Abraham through Christ Jesus, and have covenant of promise that not matter sickness, poverty, family issues, whatever. God is our helper, and our defense, He shields us under his wings, and we are more than conquers through Him that loves us. 

Last thing that should come out of our mouth is that God may not want to help, after all, some folks don't get healed, so we should believe that......... never should enter our mind, or come out of our lips.